Thanks Wendy - I'll follow that up. Good suggestion. I now suspect I need to move my search for such reports earlier; the photo that triggered this shows tennis racquets, though poorly as the image is in poor condition. But it has enabled me to date the racquets, at least roughly, by their design to the late 1800s or very early 1900s (of course, the racquets could have been used for many years after ...) Chris > At the time most of the reporting was small local papers - > who as Dave > mentioned often had news items about local people. > > Use the Oxhist link that Wendy gave us last month: > www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heritagesearch and use the advanced > search to narrow > down the results. There is a listing of newspaper held that > I found using > the main page, going to Oxhist and searching 'collections' - > according the > line under the notes about the newspaper collection > photographs, documents > and objects can be viewed on line for this part of the > collection (have not > tried it myself) > > Wendy

At the time most of the reporting was small local papers - who as Dave mentioned often had news items about local people. Use the Oxhist link that Wendy gave us last month: www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heritagesearch and use the advanced search to narrow down the results. There is a listing of newspaper held that I found using the main page, going to Oxhist and searching 'collections' - according the line under the notes about the newspaper collection photographs, documents and objects can be viewed on line for this part of the collection (have not tried it myself) Wendy -----Original Message----- From: David Beames Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:50 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Newspaper reporting Chris wrote: > I'm trying to get a feel for what level of reporting might exist in > newspapers from Oxford(shire) in the 1900s to 1930s period. > I'm assuming there would have been formal birth, marriage and death > notices. And major national (or international) news reported, > unless that was left to The Times etc. There would presumably have > been formal notices covering other items such as land sales. But > how about social events? Smaller events happening in the shire, > like a local cricket match or similar? Dunno about earlier -- I wasn't around -- but certainly by the fifties The Oxford Times (weekly) carried short pieces by local reporters from the villages -- just the sort of thing that you're looking for, in fact. Come to think of it, it recorded my grandfather's death in 1915, not as a "Death" or an Obit, but just as a news item from Ramsden. Though how you'd track down a specific item is another matter :-) DaveB ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you do a Genuki Oxfordshire search that will show you the link to the Libraries and Record Offices and they will be able to advise you as to what newspapers etc they hold and how you can view them. Hope this helps. The web page is www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/oxfordshirestudies or the Record Office is www.oxfordshire/gov.uk/oro Regards Sue -----Original Message----- From: Chris Howes [mailto:descent@wildplaces.co.uk] Sent: 12 July 2011 17:25 To: Oxfordshire genealogy group Subject: [OXF] Newspaper reporting I'm trying to get a feel for what level of reporting might exist in newspapers from Oxford(shire) in the 1900s to 1930s period. With regret, I'm not in Oxford to simply take a look. I'm aware of things like Jackson's Journal, but not necessarily what they reported. I'm assuming there would have been formal birth, marriage and death notices. And major national (or international) news reported, unless that was left to The Times etc. There would presumably have been formal notices covering other items such as land sales. But how about social events? Smaller events happening in the shire, like a local cricket match or similar? This comes down to finding another photo, this of my great grandmother accepting (with an unknown partner) a trophy for tennis (they are both holding racquets). It's again in poor condition, but the people are recognisable. Other photos (not tennis) show the same man (who was not her husband) so locating a possible report on a tennis tournament that mentions the name of Beatrice (or Lillian, her other name) Dunkley would potentially not only give me a date but also another name to match with other photos. To what extent is any Oxon paper likely to carry this sort of report, and is it then a case of page turning or are any of them scanned and searchable? Chris Howes

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Hi David,     I think the custom was not as it is e today for the general public the TIMES  may well have covered the rich and famous but thats all                       From: David Beames <dave.beames@ntlworld.com> To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2011, 18:50 Subject: Re: [OXF] Newspaper reporting Chris wrote: > I'm trying to get a feel for what level of reporting might exist in > newspapers from Oxford(shire) in the 1900s to 1930s period. > I'm assuming there would have been formal birth, marriage and death > notices. And major national (or international) news reported, > unless that was left to The Times etc. There would presumably have > been formal notices covering other items such as land sales. But > how about social events? Smaller events happening in the shire, > like a local cricket match or similar? Dunno about earlier -- I wasn't around -- but certainly by the fifties The Oxford Times (weekly) carried short pieces by local reporters from the villages -- just the sort of thing that you're looking for, in fact. Come to think of it, it recorded my grandfather's death in 1915, not as a "Death" or an Obit, but just as a news item from Ramsden. Though how you'd track down a specific item is another matter :-) DaveB ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ?  To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris, This could be your lucky day. A few years ago, I found in a secondhand shop a copy of "The Register of the City of Oxford High School 1881-1925". You will now be slightly disappointed to hear that it does not include details of their schooldays (other than their dates of arrival and departure), but gives a potted biography of their subsequent life and career, for you to compare with and add to the information you have already collected. The entry for George Ernest LAMBOURN (note spelling) reads as follows: January 1888 - July 1894. Skynner mathematical scholarship, Balliol College, Oxford, October 1894; 1 Mathematical Moderations, 1895; Junior Mathematical Scholarship, 1896; 1 Final Honour School of Mathematics, 1897; B.A., 1898. Assistant magistrate and collector in the I.C.S. in Bengal, 1900; assistant commissioner, Assam, 1902; joint magistrate and deputy collector, E. Bengal and Assam, 1908-1912; magistrate and collector of Customs, 1912-23. Retired June 1923. But the unexpected bonus for you is this entry for William Harold BROTHERTON: September 1892 - July 1894. Matriculated at The Queen's College, Oxford, October 1894; 2 Classical Moderations, 1896; 2 Final Honour School of Literae Humaniores, B.A., 1898; 2 Final Honour School of Theology, 1899; M.A., 1901. Curate of St. Barnabas, Dulwich, 1899; Dean and Senior Tutor of St. John's College, Highbury, 1903. Died April 1905. Both these entries broadly confirm the dates you quoted in your email, with some minor discrepancies. But I hope they also provide you with both new information and new leads to follow. Cheers, Bob Cowley ___________________________ On Jul 10 2011, Chris Howes wrote: I'm trying to locate more information about the early education of two Oxfordshire men but I'm finding difficulties locating sources of information, such as school record books. I'm sure that others have been here before me ... I know that George Ernest LAMBOURNE was born in 1876 and educated at Oxford High School. He was later at Balliol in Oxford (certainly from 1897 to 99, when he left age 24; this was probably a second degree in preparation for the civil service; I am in contact with the university over possible earlier attendance and to try to find the date of his matriculation) and have some information from that period, but I lack details of his boyhood education other than the school name. The second is William Harold BROTHERTON, born in Woodstock in 1876; he was at Queens from some time before 1896 (perhaps 94 or 95; he does not appear in the Alumni though he is in the Oxford Historical Register for 1200 - 1900) until 1898. He was most probably educated in Woodstock, but I am only guessing from his family still living there. Which also triggers a third question: during this period, late 1800s, what would have been involved in going to school or university? The families concerned were not landowners; they were certainly well off, but tradesmen rather than anyone wealthy. Did you pay to go to school? Was university only for those rich enough to pay, or was there an exam to ascertain suitability before you were permitted to matriculate? Are there any good general books covering this sort of topic with relevance to Oxfordshire? Any suggestions are welcome. Chris Howes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris wrote: > I'm trying to get a feel for what level of reporting might exist in > newspapers from Oxford(shire) in the 1900s to 1930s period. > I'm assuming there would have been formal birth, marriage and death > notices. And major national (or international) news reported, > unless that was left to The Times etc. There would presumably have > been formal notices covering other items such as land sales. But > how about social events? Smaller events happening in the shire, > like a local cricket match or similar? Dunno about earlier -- I wasn't around -- but certainly by the fifties The Oxford Times (weekly) carried short pieces by local reporters from the villages -- just the sort of thing that you're looking for, in fact. Come to think of it, it recorded my grandfather's death in 1915, not as a "Death" or an Obit, but just as a news item from Ramsden. Though how you'd track down a specific item is another matter :-) DaveB

I'm trying to get a feel for what level of reporting might exist in newspapers from Oxford(shire) in the 1900s to 1930s period. With regret, I'm not in Oxford to simply take a look. I'm aware of things like Jackson's Journal, but not necessarily what they reported. I'm assuming there would have been formal birth, marriage and death notices. And major national (or international) news reported, unless that was left to The Times etc. There would presumably have been formal notices covering other items such as land sales. But how about social events? Smaller events happening in the shire, like a local cricket match or similar? This comes down to finding another photo, this of my great grandmother accepting (with an unknown partner) a trophy for tennis (they are both holding racquets). It's again in poor condition, but the people are recognisable. Other photos (not tennis) show the same man (who was not her husband) so locating a possible report on a tennis tournament that mentions the name of Beatrice (or Lillian, her other name) Dunkley would potentially not only give me a date but also another name to match with other photos. To what extent is any Oxon paper likely to carry this sort of report, and is it then a case of page turning or are any of them scanned and searchable? Chris Howes

> Why not consider :- > > "Village Education in 19th Century Oxfordshire incorporating a > transcription of the Whitchurch School Logbook 1868-93". Good suggestion, many thanks - now ordered. Chris

In a message dated 10/07/2011 11:48:02 GMT Daylight Time, descent@wildplaces.co.uk writes: Which also triggers a third question: during this period, late 1800s, what would have been involved in going to school ? Are there any good general books covering this sort of topic with relevance to Oxfordshire? Chris Why not consider :- "Village Education in 19th Century Oxfordshire incorporating a transcription of the Whitchurch School Logbook 1868-93". That volume was edited by Pamela Horn and published in 1979 as volume 51 of the Oxfordshire Record Society. We stock it on the society's bookstall - please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/books.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/books.html) Paul Gaskell Bookstall Manager Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

Not yet, but I've a bunch of photos that were taken in or around Blenheim estate that I've been thinking of scanning and putting them online to see if anyone can add anything about where or who ... So the answer is, not yet but when time permits, coming ... Chris > Do you have a copy it somewhere to take a look at it > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Chris Do you have a copy it somewhere to take a look at it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thanks Malcolm, but no, it doesn't. The image really is in poor condition, > but it looks like fewer people in my pic and, as there is a lot of space > around them, probably everyone present. There's only three vanes (sticky out > bits at the back; not sure what they are called) , being left right and > down. The orientation suggests a shorter dirigible or blimp. > > In one sense, it's not an important photo in that I have no known family > connection to it other than it probably being taken by the same person who > took a bunch of others. More out of interest in that if this was dated, it > might help date other photos from the same source. > > Thanks for the note > > Chris

Thanks Malcolm, but no, it doesn't. The image really is in poor condition, but it looks like fewer people in my pic and, as there is a lot of space around them, probably everyone present. There's only three vanes (sticky out bits at the back; not sure what they are called) , being left right and down. The orientation suggests a shorter dirigible or blimp. In one sense, it's not an important photo in that I have no known family connection to it other than it probably being taken by the same person who took a bunch of others. More out of interest in that if this was dated, it might help date other photos from the same source. Thanks for the note Chris > > I have a photograph, one of many in a collection of family photos, > > showing > > an airship or blimp tethered on the ground with a group of > twenty or more > > people gathered around and underneath it. > > Does it look anything like this? > <URL:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLD-REAL-PHOTO-POSTCARD-AIRSHIP > -OXFORD-/350475468124> > > Not that it helps other than suggesting pre-1914. > > = Malcolm.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:02:19 +0100, Chris Howes <descent@wildplaces.co.uk> wrote: > I have a photograph, one of many in a collection of family photos, > showing > an airship or blimp tethered on the ground with a group of twenty or more > people gathered around and underneath it. Does it look anything like this? <URL:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLD-REAL-PHOTO-POSTCARD-AIRSHIP-OXFORD-/350475468124> Not that it helps other than suggesting pre-1914. = Malcolm. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

I have a photograph, one of many in a collection of family photos, showing an airship or blimp tethered on the ground with a group of twenty or more people gathered around and underneath it. The picture is incredibly faded and the detail is poor. By style it feels like the first decade of the 1900s. It might, I suppose, be liked to the First World War but the feeling is more one of celebration. The scene is an open field with the airship close to trees on the far side. I've failed to find any mention of such a launch or event in any records, but my access to papers such as Jackson's is poor. It feels (from both the image and association with others in the collection) as though this is Blenheim park. Has anyone seen any reference to such an event? Chris Howes

Many thanks to both Paul and David for your information about Oxford schools - I'm following up the suggested leads. Chris Howes

Dear Chris, > ... > Which also triggers a third question: during this period, late 1800s, what > would have been involved in going to school or university? The families > concerned were not landowners; they were certainly well off, but tradesmen > rather than anyone wealthy. Did you pay to go to school? Was university only > for those rich enough to pay, or was there an exam to ascertain suitability > before you were permitted to matriculate? Are there any good general books > covering this sort of topic with relevance to Oxfordshire? Both going to Oxford and obtaining the necessary education before university would have entailed some expense at the time. I don't know about "general" books, but I would suggest: 1) There is a fairly recent "History of the University of Oxford", published in 8 volumes (OUP) - including 2 covering the 19th century and 1 covering the 20th. This is too expensive for a casual purchase, but the question of who attended the university may be covered, if you can obtain a copy through your library. 2) The University of Oxford published at "Oxford University Handbook", which was intended for the information of those seeking admission. I have a copy of the 1915 edition, which was apparently the 21st edition. Second-hand copies are, I should think, easily obtained. There is an online version of an earlier edition here: http://www.archive.org/details/oxforduniversit05oxfogoog This contains more detail than you probably want. The preface to the 1915 edition states that "It describes ... the conditions of admission and residence enforced by the University and Colleges; the courses of stury and examinations necessary for the attainment of degrees and diplomas... It gives a very complete account of the scholarships and prizes offered by the university and colleges ..." Each college provides details of the expenses likely to be incurred. For Queen's College in 1914/1915, the recurring charges are estimated as: Tuition, £7 10s per term (3 terms a year); room rent, £2 10s to £7 per term; establishment (for the running of the college) about £5 15s per term. The college seems to have offered the option of making a payment of £28 per term to cover almost all college and university expenses, except "gate fines, messenger, fuel, lanudress, groceries, and beer." There were some other one-off payments on admission and graduation. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Hi Jill There are quite a few Cakebreads in Suffolk. I had a quick look on the "IGI" site and there were 34 records in the 1600's, but not any more recent, that I could see, But I would have said it was a Suffolk name, Suffolk also having had a lot of non-conformists. Jennifer On 10 July 2011 09:07, Jill Muir <jill.muir@shottle.plus.com> wrote: > Hello Listers, > I am transcribing a will of James Caseberde who died in my village of > Kingston Bagpuize in 1604. I have a 3 generation family tree for them now. > > I have tried discovering where the surname appears in Berkshire and > Oxfordshire. It is not shown in the Surnames of Oxfordshire book and I > don't > believe that there is a book of Berkshire surnames. There are though some > appearing in the 1841 and 1851 census for Berkshire, at Shillingford and > area. The name or variant of this, as Casbeard, also appears on the > Oxfordshire OXSIL surname list though and I have sent a message to the > researcher. > > I searched for both Cakebread [which I think Caseberd could be a variant > of] and Caseberd on ancestry.co.uk today and then decided to use the > facility to 'Search All Records' and found there a James Caseberd died 1604 > which is one I am interested in, within Probate/Glamorgan Wills, but he > isn't shown on the National Library of Wales Wills Index that I could see. > I don't wish to add to my subscription plan at present, but wondered if > anyone had come across this surname in Glamorgan, Oxfordshire, Berkshire, > or > come to that anywhere, please? > > The adjoining parish of Longworth is the oldest place in the UK for > Anabaptists, who seemed to have come from Glamorgan, so the tale goes, and > a > Cakebread researcher I have spoken to tells me that his family seemed to be > Nonconformists. > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://longworth-district-history-society.org.uk > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, > Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? > To join, click on Membership at the left. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jill - By using the OFHS Search Services (see Surname Search Services at www.ofhs.org.uk), you will be able to build up quite a collection of CASEBERD & variants. The N Berks marriage index, for instance, has about 40 entries, going back to 1569, with Blewbury as the focus. The best match date-wise, though not good geographically, for James in the OFHS (not yet complete) baptism index is: Surname Forename Parents Place Year CASBERD James John East Lockinge 1549 Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <jill.muir@shottle.plus.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:07 AM Subject: [OXF] CASEBERDE, James died 1604 > Hello Listers, > I am transcribing a will of James Caseberde who died in my village of > Kingston Bagpuize in 1604. I have a 3 generation family tree for them > now. > > I have tried discovering where the surname appears in Berkshire and > Oxfordshire. It is not shown in the Surnames of Oxfordshire book and I > don't > believe that there is a book of Berkshire surnames. There are though some > appearing in the 1841 and 1851 census for Berkshire, at Shillingford and > area. The name or variant of this, as Casbeard, also appears on the > Oxfordshire OXSIL surname list though and I have sent a message to the > researcher. > > I searched for both Cakebread [which I think Caseberd could be a variant > of] and Caseberd on ancestry.co.uk today and then decided to use the > facility to 'Search All Records' and found there a James Caseberd died > 1604 > which is one I am interested in, within Probate/Glamorgan Wills, but he > isn't shown on the National Library of Wales Wills Index that I could see. > I don't wish to add to my subscription plan at present, but wondered if > anyone had come across this surname in Glamorgan, Oxfordshire, Berkshire, > or > come to that anywhere, please? > > The adjoining parish of Longworth is the oldest place in the UK for > Anabaptists, who seemed to have come from Glamorgan, so the tale goes, and > a > Cakebread researcher I have spoken to tells me that his family seemed to > be > Nonconformists. > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://longworth-district-history-society.org.uk >

I'm trying to locate more information about the early education of two Oxfordshire men but I'm finding difficulties locating sources of information, such as school record books. I'm sure that others have been here before me ... I know that George Ernest LAMBOURNE was born in 1876 and educated at Oxford High School. He was later at Balliol in Oxford (certainly from 1897 to 99, when he left age 24; this was probably a second degree in preparation for the civil service; I am in contact with the university over possible earlier attendance and to try to find the date of his matriculation) and have some information from that period, but I lack details of his boyhood education other than the school name. The second is William Harold BROTHERTON, born in Woodstock in 1876; he was at Queens from some time before 1896 (perhaps 94 or 95; he does not appear in the Alumni though he is in the Oxford Historical Register for 1200 - 1900) until 1898. He was most probably educated in Woodstock, but I am only guessing from his family still living there. Which also triggers a third question: during this period, late 1800s, what would have been involved in going to school or university? The families concerned were not landowners; they were certainly well off, but tradesmen rather than anyone wealthy. Did you pay to go to school? Was university only for those rich enough to pay, or was there an exam to ascertain suitability before you were permitted to matriculate? Are there any good general books covering this sort of topic with relevance to Oxfordshire? Any suggestions are welcome. Chris Howes