I wonder if any sleuth who knows the area around Long Hanborough might solve a puzzle I have, or otherwise anyone might suggest a different course of research. I am trying to work out exactly which house my great grandfather Archie DUNKLEY occupied in Hanborough in the period between 1910 and 1918, when he died. I thought this might be fairly simple, given that there was a census, but no. My grandmother Dorothy grew up in the house and once told me a little about it, though at the time I did not think to ask further about its exact location. Here's the clues: 1. Several postcards to the family simply show the address as 'Hanborough, Woodstock'. 2. Archie was Clerk of Works at Blenheim, working at Combe Mill, and was thus well paid. Dorothy remembered moving into the house, which she said consisted of two cottages 'knocked into one by the Duke for us', which suggests that the house was then in Estate ownership and also that the renovations were recent. 3. She described the garden as having a lawn for children to play on, with a tennis court and bowling green, and gardeners supplied by the Duke to tend them. So, even if not still there now, at that time there was plenty of space around the house. 4. The 1911 census only gives the address as 'Hanborough' but it does indicate that the house had seven rooms. 5. The Victoria County History doesn't reveal much about individual houses, though it does say that in 1910 the Estate was selling building plots. It hasn't helped with identification 6. Google Earth has granted a bird's eye view of the village, but there is nothing obvious revealed as a likely candidate other than, perhaps, the Manor House where there are imprints in the lawn and perhaps some old buildings to the west. I'm not convinced ... Nothing particular yells at me from the old maps on old-maps.co.uk Which leaves my question: what would once have had an address as simple as 'Hanborough, Woodstock' (while the 1911 census has many houses addressed as this, there are also a number identified by name and/or street, which might imply that the simplicity of having no name or street indicates the main street through Hanborough)? Has anyone any idea which house this might be, or where to look next for information? How might I work out which houses were being modified (and which owned) by the Estate in 1910? Chris Howes

Hello Brian and Paul. Thank you very much indeed for your help, it is very much appreciated,makes it so much more interesting to have some background.Thanks again. Colin

Hello Colin.... If you're interested in seeing what the Oak Inn looks like now, it's visible on Google Maps. As Paul says, it's on the south side of the green (the Cock Inn is on the west side of the green). It's now a private house called Oak House and still retains the wall bracket that once held it's pub sign. There are also a couple of pictures of the inn as it was (although viewed from a distance) to be found through the Oxfordshire County Council heritage search, www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heritagesearch , as mentioned by Wendy Archer last month. Incidentally, a useful resource for searching for the location of buildings is www.old-maps.co.uk. I've used it extensively in the past for tracking down non-conformist chapels for my website and found it extremely useful. Hope that fills in a few more details for you.... Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Betteridge Sent: 18 July 2011 21:52 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] oak inn coombe. Dear Colin, > Could anyone tell me whether there was an Oak Inn in Coombe at the > time of the 1871 census. In my earlier message, I suggested that the Oak Inn was not where Rachel Edgington was actually living in 1871. But if you do want to know about the Oak Inn, and the other public houses in Combe, one can find information in the Victoria County History, available online here: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=1893 The Royal Oak (which I imagine is the "Oak" of the 1871 census) was on the south side of the green and traded from 1847 to 1966. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All I'm looking for a baptism for Sarah BELCHER around 1789 Great Milton? Father possibly James? Robert COPPOCK married Sarah BELCHER 5th Jul 1813 at Great Milton, both otp. ____________________________________________________________________ Also looking for the burial of Anne COPPOCK(E) after 1687 (but her name may be spelt in many different ways Cobbock/Cobbit/Cobbet/Cobbuck/Coppit/Coppet/Coppack etc.) She was alive September 1686 Great Haseley with 5 children, named in the Inventory of her husband John Coppock(e) (Left no Will), who was curate and school teacher at Great Haseley and sometime Stoke Talmage. At Great Haseley on 3rd Jun 1687 she buried a daughter Anne, and she was entered in the register as Mrs Coppock. Her living children, baptised their families at Great Milton beginning in the parish registers 1711 but I can find no record of her burial there, or at Great Haseley. any help appreciated Best wishes Dave David F. Coppock Blaby Leicestershire England Guild of One-Name Studies 2750 Oxford Family History Society 922

Hi all, I am trying to find the marriage of Joseph GYLES to Patience, about 1698, their first child John was born 14 Sep 1698 and baptised 18 Sep 1698 (Ambrosden Oxford) the rest of their children who followed were born in (Aylesbury Bucks). I have found a Patience SMALLBROOK baptised 16 Dec 1671 (Ambrosden), who could fit? Or has someone added her to their tree? Both Joseph (Farmer) and Patience died in (Aylesbury Bucks), Patience left a Will, she only mentions her children and spouse's. Regards Andrea

Dear Colin, > Could anyone tell me whether there was an Oak Inn in Coombe at the > time of the 1871 census. In my earlier message, I suggested that the Oak Inn was not where Rachel Edgington was actually living in 1871. But if you do want to know about the Oak Inn, and the other public houses in Combe, one can find information in the Victoria County History, available online here: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=1893 The Royal Oak (which I imagine is the "Oak" of the 1871 census) was on the south side of the green and traded from 1847 to 1966. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Dear Colin, > Could anyone tell me whether there was an Oak Inn in Coombe at the > time of the 1871 census,I cannot find it on Google,is there anywhere > else that would have the information,my 2nd G Grandmother Rachel > Edgington was there according to Find my Past 1871 census. "Oak Inn" certainly appears as an address in Combe in the 1871 census. Not many explicit addresses are given in Combe, and it happens that this is the address that occurs most nearly before Rachel Edgington's house. But if FMP have given her address as "Oak Inn", they are mistaken. There are 7 other houses, 1 uninhabited, in the enumerator's book between the inn and Rachel's house. I suspect that reflected the facts on the ground. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Hello All Could anyone tell me whether there was an Oak Inn in Coombe at the time of the 1871 census,I cannot find it on Google,is there anywhere else that would have the information,my 2nd G Grandmother Rachel Edgington was there according to Find my Past 1871 census. Colin Edgington

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, September 9, 1837; Issue 4402. DIED. Lately, while on a tour in Switzerland, Mr. Henry HERBERT , B.A. of Balliol college, in this University. He fell into a reservoir on Mount Tendre, one of the points of the Jura Mountain, and his body was not discovered until life was extinct.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, September 9, 1837; Issue 4402. THAME, Sept. 7th. A melancholy and fatal accident happened at Postcomb in the afternoon of Sunday week last, to the wife of Mr. John BETTS , shoe-maker. She was blowing the fire, when she thought she smelt tinder, but could not find any fire about her. On the smell increasing she got up and shook her clothes, which were instantly fanned into a flame. The poor woman ran to the stair-foot door and alarmed her husband, who was upstairs cleaning himself, and, although he was instantly down in his shirt sleeves, she was so much burnt that she lingered until Wednesday, when death put a period to her sufferings, leaving 5 children and a disconsolate husband, whose right hand is much burnt in endeavouring to extinguish the fire. A singular accident happened at Long Crendon a few weeks ago. The people were beginning to assemble under that venerable elm tree, which stands in the centre of the village, for the purpose of hearing one of those preachers, called "ranters", when one of its ponderous branches gave way, which brushed down on a man, and broke the leg of a lad, aged 15, who was conveyed to the Thame Union Workhouse, where he is doing well. Had this singular circumstance happened 10 minutes later, the consequence must have been awful in the extreme.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, September 9, 1837; Issue 4402. ABINGDON, Sept. 6. On Monday afternoon, about five o'clock, the inhabitants of Sutton Courtney were alarmed by fire issuing from a cottage, in the possession of a labouring man, named QUARTERMAN . The fire continued to rage until it had completely demolished that and an adjoining cottage, inhabited by W. HICKMAN . On the intelligence reaching this town, post horses were attached to two powerful fire engines, and started for Sutton with the utmost speed. A curious circumstance occurred to impede the progress of one of the engines; the men wishing to go the nearest way to the scene of devastation had to pass between posts, erected for the purpose of preventing vehicles going that way and thus escaping the toll gate of the turnpike road. Having succeeded thus far, they again mounted the engine, which ( having no shafts or pole attached by which it might be guided ) became unmanageable, and was plunged, together with the whole of its attendants, into the gentle waters of Old Father Thames, where they lay sprawling for some considerable time ! We are happy, however, to state that, with the exception of a dislocated shoulder, all the party escaped injury, otherwise than a sound ducking. We understand the property belonged to Mr. R. LESTER , of Culham, and was insured.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, May 31, 1851; Issue 5118. Mr. Abel HILL , of Thame, the owner of the bull which caused the melancholy death of Sophia GOSS , wife of Henry GOSS , butcher, living at Waddesdon, has acted in a very kind and liberal manner to the relatives of the deceased. In addition to paying for the funeral and other expenses, he has presented the husband with a liberal donation towards meeting emergencies resulting from the sad occurrence.

I think I can claim an Edwin Claydon, born 1873 in Great Milton, son of James and Sarah? I'll have to check it out. Thanks for taking the time to mention it. LeAnn Walton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Nelson" <atgn@elder53.plus.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:29 AM Subject: [OXF] Another stray > Found a E M C entry on 1891 census born Great Milton in 1874 in hospital > in > Hornsey > It is likely the full name is Edwin Claydon > Hope this assists > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, > Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? > To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

in 15 years of researching two huge family trees never across 'errand girl' until today - this makes 3! Jon if you fall across any weirdly transcribed Wigleys from Berkshire, Barnes or Hackney would love to hear about them as lot of missing ones. So far have got Wagley, Hagley, Highly, Higley and Migley Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Alan Nelson Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:51 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Sophia ROLFE 1861 Census of Great Milton RG9; Piece: 885; Folio: 39; Page: 13 is the reference and original entry is under Rosse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon's FH" <jons.fh@btinternet.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: [OXF] Sophia ROLFE 1861 Census of Great Milton > Hi folks, > > Just in case anyone has been looking for this 22 year old lady in the 1861 > Census, her surname has been transcribed on Ancestry as ROSS rather than > ROLFE. > She is said to have been born at Great Milton about 1839, and her > occupation is an Errand Girl. > > I hope this is of help to someone on the list? > > Kind regards, Jon > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, > Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? > To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Found a E M C entry on 1891 census born Great Milton in 1874 in hospital in Hornsey It is likely the full name is Edwin Claydon Hope this assists

RG9; Piece: 885; Folio: 39; Page: 13 is the reference and original entry is under Rosse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon's FH" <jons.fh@btinternet.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: [OXF] Sophia ROLFE 1861 Census of Great Milton > Hi folks, > > Just in case anyone has been looking for this 22 year old lady in the 1861 > Census, her surname has been transcribed on Ancestry as ROSS rather than > ROLFE. > She is said to have been born at Great Milton about 1839, and her > occupation is an Errand Girl. > > I hope this is of help to someone on the list? > > Kind regards, Jon > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Have you considered joining, supporting, or becoming involved with, > Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk ? > To join, click on Membership at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi folks, Just in case anyone has been looking for this 22 year old lady in the 1861 Census, her surname has been transcribed on Ancestry as ROSS rather than ROLFE. She is said to have been born at Great Milton about 1839, and her occupation is an Errand Girl. I hope this is of help to someone on the list? Kind regards, Jon

Thought this item might help someone: >From Warwick and Warwickshire Advertiser (newspaper) >From Issue dated 28may1814 1) DEATH - Lately, Mrs FLOWERS, wife of Mr John FLOWERS, grocer of Banbury Regards Hester Moore (nee Jennings) Qld, Australia

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, February 18, 1860; Issue 5573. WANTAGE. Fatal Accident. - An accident of a most melancholy nature happened to a lad, named William Henry FOX , at East Illsey, on the 13th inst. It appears that the lad was only Eleven years of age, and that he was in the service of Mr. LOWE , of the Swan Inn, at Illsey; he was not much accustomed to riding, but on the above-mentioned day he was placed on a race-horse to take it to exercise, and in returning home, the horse from some cause became unmanageable, and ran away, coming in violent contact with the corner of a beer house, and throwing the poor boy with considerable force, and severely injuring the horse. Messrs. LIGHTFOOT and ROBINSON , surgeons, were quickly in attendance, endeavouring to assuage the sufferings of the poor fellow, and remained with him until eleven o'clock at night, but without avail, as he gradually sank, and died about half-past four the next morning. An inquest was held on the body on Wednesday, before W. D. WASBROUGH , Esq., coroner, and a verdict returned of " Accidentally killed by a fall from a horse." Too much cannot be said condemning the practice of placing small boys on horses of this description, as, if they have the will they have not the power to restrain them, and we hope this may be a warning to others, as we see the practice is of daily occurrence.

Chris - Back in May, you asked: > Can someone tell me if it is possible, and if so how, to view the > original parish register documents ? I am hoping that the Northmoor PR has > a mistake in it in and that the original might be illegible for the entry > I'm concerned with and the transcriber made a "best guess" at it. > Therefore, I'm hoping to somehow view the original so that I might solve > one of my dead ends. I'm hoping a WEALE can become a WEAKE !!!!! The Oxfordshire History Centre is now open, and I've had a look at the Northmoor baptism register details that you gave me off list. Details & a couple of photos off list - but sorry, no, your WEALEs were correctly transcribed by Oxfordshire FHS, & I'll have to dispel your hope that they were really WEAKEs. Wendy