I have to say thanks to the many people who offered great ideas on identifying the house in Hanborough. I was heading towards a long term wait to check the valuations at the National Archives, but I have a solid answer now ... My thanks to Wendy (and others) who suggested Google street view. I'd already been through the village, then again when the search started to narrow down using the census. Now, on a return due to Wendy's suggestion, I have the house across the road from the Swan. It's two cottages today, as it once would have been though in between it was one in Archie's time. There is plenty of ground around it to once have had a tennis court, lawns and all sorts. But the clincher ... I have a photo of Archie driving a truck. Behind his head there are two windows in a house - could have been anywhere. But, from Google Street View it is clear that the brickwork is identical and this is the house. Not only do I now know where he lived, I have an ID for where a photo was taken. Thanks to all for your help. I suspect it won't be long before I'm back with another question! Chris Howes

All The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 25 July 2011 at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for coffee, help with both genealogy and computers, and the bookstall, exchange journals and the library. The subject of the talk at 8.00pm is "Thirty-five years of the Oxfordshire Family Historian". This will be presented by Tony Hadland. This society was founded in 1976. The first edition of its journal, "Oxfordshire Family Historian", appeared in Spring 1977. There have now been more than a hundred issues and a dozen editors. In this talk by current editor Tony Hadland, we’ll look back at the development of the journal. At the same time, we’ll see how it reflects the growth of the society and the many changes it has gone through. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html) For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html) Any queries, please contact me. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : _http://www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)

Penny there are WASTIEs buried in Stanton Harcourt, in case you are not aware of this. Another two WASTIE researchers confirmed that these buried there were their family. I happen to be going there tomorrow, weather permitting. If you want me to look at the inscriptions there, I can do this for you. Jill -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PennyEves@aol.com Sent: 21 July 2011 16:58 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] House in Hanborough Hi Chris ... My mother - now in her mid 80s - often used to visit her WASTIE grandparents in Long Hanborough in the 1930s. She recalls being shown around (by the gardener) a garden in the village which had a sunken rose garden and a tennis court - but unfortunately cannot remember where it was! I note from another of your postings on this mailing list that Archie DUNKLEY's death was registered by his fourteen-year-old daughter. Presumably she was living at home - is an address not given on the death certificate? Did Archie and/or any sons serve in WW1? Perhaps an address would be shown on service records. Have you also checked for obituaries in local papers, or a will (Archie appears in the National Probate Calendar, so there must have been one)? Penny ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>Archie had one son, who was too young to serve in the war. Archie himself did not serve (at least, I have found no record of his doing so) - I presume he would not have been in the first round of enlistments due to his age (in 1914, 32) and/or more likely his work as, effectively, estate manager running the sawmill was considered a protected occupation producing timber for the war effort (anyone any ideas on how to check for that? I haven't yet looked, but was there a list of protected professions and who was one it, or was this done as an ad hoc, case by case decision?). There is no service record of his joining the forces nor mention in family letters or photos. A 32 year old would have been accepted (if fit) had they volunteered at any time. Many of that age and older volunteered in 1914/15. Conscription came along later, when his occupation may have saved him (his age means he would not be called up until fairly late in the war, possibly too late to do anything more than some training). There were local tribunals that heard appeals against conscription, perhaps he featured in one of these - reports in the local paper. >I have a copy of the probate calendar record, from the web, but given his untimely and relatively sudden death I had presumed this was granted intestate. Now you make me wonder: is the presence of a probate record an indication that there *must* be a will? I've not located one. A calendar entry does not mean there must be a will - only that probate was granted - ie someone was given control of the estate. If there was a will the Probate Registry will have a copy, if not they will have the grant of administration which should be of some interest. Costs £5 or £6. If you want to be certain where he was living follow Eve's advice - the Lloyd George domesday will have details of the house, ownership and occupiers linked to an OS map showing the location. Most detail is in the Field Books at the National Archives (catalogued in IR58), the locally held version is less detailed though it is quicker to find an individual as the data is tabulated, many properties per page whereas the field books have four pages per property.

What a host of good ideas! Thanks Penny. Your mention of the tennis court sounds quite hopefully the right place; it's at least of interest to add to the stories I have. And your memory is good: his daughter did register the death and yes, she was living at home. The certificate, now I check it again, says Long Hanborough (for both his place of death and her address) but no other details. Archie had one son, who was too young to serve in the war. Archie himself did not serve (at least, I have found no record of his doing so) - I presume he would not have been in the first round of enlistments due to his age (in 1914, 32) and/or more likely his work as, effectively, estate manager running the sawmill was considered a protected occupation producing timber for the war effort (anyone any ideas on how to check for that? I haven't yet looked, but was there a list of protected professions and who was one it, or was this done as an ad hoc, case by case decision?). There is no service record of his joining the forces nor mention in family letters or photos. I have a copy of the probate calendar record, from the web, but given his untimely and relatively sudden death I had presumed this was granted intestate. Now you make me wonder: is the presence of a probate record an indication that there *must* be a will? I've not located one. It is some years since I checked for entries in the papers; so the answer should be no, in the sense that I don't have a record of finding one, though I know that yes, I did look but a long time ago. Thanks for the many ideas. On the other hand, this is an amazingly interesting search. Yesterday I found Archie in the Canadian 1891 census (I know he was in Canada, but was surprised to find that the original pages are all online and searchable, free, courtesy of the Canadian government). And the day before I finally discovered the background to a photo of his sister-in-law, who was dressed up and there was a hint of London to the photo: she was there to receive an MBE. Thanks again - more ideas for me to follow up, and all welcome. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > PennyEves@aol.com > Sent: 21 July 2011 16:58 > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OXF] House in Hanborough > > > Hi Chris ... > > My mother - now in her mid 80s - often used to visit her WASTIE > grandparents in Long Hanborough in the 1930s. She recalls > being shown around (by the > gardener) a garden in the village which had a sunken rose > garden and a > tennis court - but unfortunately cannot remember where it was! > > I note from another of your postings on this mailing list > that Archie > DUNKLEY's death was registered by his fourteen-year-old > daughter. Presumably > she was living at home - is an address not given on the > death certificate? > > Did Archie and/or any sons serve in WW1? Perhaps an address > would be > shown on service records. > > Have you also checked for obituaries in local papers, or a > will (Archie > appears in the National Probate Calendar, so there must have > been one)? > > Penny > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 21/07/2011 10:46, MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com wrote: > >> From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, August 15, 1840; Issue 4555. > > OXFORDSHIRE ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE. - It will be in the recollection of > many of our readers that in the action, HARDY v GREENWOLLERS , which came on > for trial at our last Assizes >... The report of the nisi prius case at the assizes appears in JOJ on 25 July 1840 (under the name "Hardy v. Greenwallers".) Mr Hardy was the executor of a Mr Wastie; the defendant Greenwallers was the sister of the late Mr Wastie, and apparently owed him money. Greenwallers or Greenwollers isn't a name you come across that often, so I thought it should be too difficult to identify which Mr and Miss Wastie were involved. There is a Charles Greenwallers buried at St Peter in the East in 1792, and in 1791 in the same place an Eliza Greenwallers, infant. And turning to the baptisms, a Frances GRUNWALLER daughter of Charles and Mary Harriotte baptised in 1788, and a Maria Anne GRUNWOLLER, daughter of the same parents, baptised in 1789. A little bit of digging turns up in the 1841 census a Mary GREENWOOLERS in Tubney, Berkshire (aged "70"), living with a Frances SYMS ("45") and Emily SYMS (aged 10). This is presumably the defendant in Hardy v. Greenwollers, with her daughter Frances baptised in 1788. However, still no link to the WASTIE family. Ah, but earlier in the same article in JOJ on the nisi prius cases at the assizes is "Hunt v. Lockhart". The newspaper states "The plaintiff ... [had] formerly been in the service of John Ingram Lockhart, Esq., otherwise Wastie, deceased..." and that he "sought to recover of the defendant, a brother of the deceased". So the maiden name of Mrs Greenwollers is likely to have been Lockhart, not Wastie. And the same newspaper account includes mention of a John Hardy, agent and steward to the late Mr Lockhart (the plaintiff in Hardy v. Greenwollers), that Mr Lockhart had changed his name to Wastie about 3 years before his death, and that he (Hardy) had also acted for the deceased sister, Mrs Greenwaller. At this stage, I still hadn't found a marriage between Mary Lockhart and Charles Greenwallers - I wonder what his name was originally? But there is a marriage at Great Haseley in 1804 between John Ingram Lockhart, bart, of St Johns Holborn, and Mary Gibbard Wastie. And now much more becomes apparent - Lockhart was one of the MPs for Oxford; and there is a private act for his change of name to Wastie: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=19257#s8 Oh, and here in the IGI is that marriage: Charles Greenwollers married to Mary Harriot Lockhart at St Paul, Covent Garden, London, in June 1787. A notice in the London Gazette for the dissolution of a partnership shows Charles was a linen draper. That's probably enough of that. Some lessons: it's a useful hint to look at all the cases in the law report, not just the one of immediate interest. And my initial assumption that Mrs Greenwallers was formerly Miss Wastie appears to have been quite wrong. And a question: does anyone know if there is a link between Mary Gibbard Wastie and Francis Wastie of Great Haseley, and the Wastie family of Eynsham and district? Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

> I am trying to work out exactly which house my great grandfather Archie > DUNKLEY occupied in Hanborough in the period between 1910 and 1918, Should be easy - the Lloyd George valuation of 1910 will show precisely where everyone livced (and its plot size and value) Apart from the National Archives, there is (surely) a copy at the Oxford Archives. It should list owners and occupiers for each house EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

as to Long Hanborough or Church Hanborough, although Archie's address in 1911 states just Hanborough other houses state Long Hanborough. I looked at the enumerator's list for the village which shows the following in street order: Swan Inn although this is not shown as the address for Archie's next door neighbours, the Turners, the occupants details match. private house Archie Dunkley Witney Road, again details match his neighbours on that side so definitely at the Witney Road end of 'Millwood' Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Chris Howes Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:57 AM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] House in Hanborough > Several postcards to the family simply show the address as > 'Hanborough, > Woodstock'. > > Why have you expressly mentioned Long Hanborough ? Could it > be Church > Hanborough ? Thanks Paul - and yes, it could be. The 'Long' came from other family mentions, though I had no documentation that insisted it was Long Hanborough. Sylvie did subsequently get me a lot closer, in Long Hanborough, with the enumerator's census book though - I hadn't been able to view that. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris ... My mother - now in her mid 80s - often used to visit her WASTIE grandparents in Long Hanborough in the 1930s. She recalls being shown around (by the gardener) a garden in the village which had a sunken rose garden and a tennis court - but unfortunately cannot remember where it was! I note from another of your postings on this mailing list that Archie DUNKLEY's death was registered by his fourteen-year-old daughter. Presumably she was living at home - is an address not given on the death certificate? Did Archie and/or any sons serve in WW1? Perhaps an address would be shown on service records. Have you also checked for obituaries in local papers, or a will (Archie appears in the National Probate Calendar, so there must have been one)? Penny

> Several postcards to the family simply show the address as > 'Hanborough, > Woodstock'. > > Why have you expressly mentioned Long Hanborough ? Could it > be Church > Hanborough ? Thanks Paul - and yes, it could be. The 'Long' came from other family mentions, though I had no documentation that insisted it was Long Hanborough. Sylvie did subsequently get me a lot closer, in Long Hanborough, with the enumerator's census book though - I hadn't been able to view that. Chris

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, August 15, 1840; Issue 4555. OXFORDSHIRE ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE. - It will be in the recollection of many of our readers that in the action, HARDY v GREENWOLLERS , which came on for trial at our last Assizes, a verdict was found for the plaintiff with 2000 pounds damages; but that such verdict should be conditional only, and subject to the award of William CRIPPS , Esq., barrister at law. We now learn that the arbitrator has made his award in this case, directing such verdict to be set aside, and, instead thereof, a verdict to be entered for the defendant on each and all the issues.

In a message dated 20/07/2011 13:32:52 GMT Daylight Time, descent@wildplaces.co.uk writes: Some years ago I and others tried to find out what might exist at Blenheim. Chris Your query didn't immediate bring Blenheim into my mind - but I did think of Eynsham Hall, which is on the main road (A4095) between Long Hanborough and North Leigh :- _http://www.eynshamhall.com/_ (http://www.eynshamhall.com/) You'll find its history at :- _http://www.eynshamhall.com/pdf/history.pdf_ (http://www.eynshamhall.com/pdf/history.pdf) Enjoy ! Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

In a message dated 20/07/2011 12:02:50 GMT Daylight Time, hilaryblanford@btinternet.com writes: Does Blenheim Estate have an archivist? Hilary Yes - but I don't have contact details to hand. Presumably a call to "Educational Services" might help :- _http://www.blenheimpalace.com/education.html_ (http://www.blenheimpalace.com/education.html) Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

In a message dated 20/07/2011 06:13:04 GMT Daylight Time, descent@wildplaces.co.uk writes: I wonder if any sleuth who knows the area around Long Hanborough might solve a puzzle I have, or otherwise anyone might suggest a different course of research. Several postcards to the family simply show the address as 'Hanborough, Woodstock'. Chris Why have you expressly mentioned Long Hanborough ? Could it be Church Hanborough ? Good luck ! Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

As I understand it, not as such. Some years ago I and others tried to find out what might exist at Blenheim. At the time I knew the then estate manager, who told me that a lot of documents of a historical nature had been thrown out to clear a room for other use. It sounded like records of interest to any of us, but they were gone. There was, I was told, no catalogue of anything remaining and no archivist (then at least). I know that the mill at Combe Mill was also cleared (as in, everything taken from what would have been my great grandfather's office) and put into a skip when the site was being expanded and redeveloped as a business park. Fortunately, a little was saved (the story goes) by being grabbed out of the skip and retained, and this is with the society that now runs the mill museum. The museum has a very good (volunteer) archivist and she (and others) is turning up some fascinating stuff overall which, I understand, will eventually find its way to the web for public viewing, but it's a long term project. I'm in contact with the group. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: HILARY BLANFORD [mailto:hilaryblanford@btinternet.com] > Sent: 20 July 2011 11:58 > To: descent@wildplaces.co.uk; oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OXF] House in Hanborough > > > Does Blenheim Estate have an archivist? > HB

Does Blenheim Estate have an archivist? HB --- On Wed, 20/7/11, Bob <tree@bowler.me.uk> wrote: > From: Bob <tree@bowler.me.uk> > Subject: Re: [OXF] House in Hanborough > To: descent@wildplaces.co.uk, oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 20 July, 2011, 9:12 > Hi Chris > > If you can get to TNA then the IR58 series - Rates survey - > might help, the > rate books show (in most cases) who was living at a > property circa 1910 to > 1915, this ties up with a large scale map which shows > individual properties. > I have managed to identify a few ancestors houses this way. > Try the TNA labs > site as a starting point - > http://labs.nationalarchives.gov.uk/wordpress/index.php/2010/04/valuation-office-map-finder/ > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Howes" <descent@wildplaces.co.uk> > To: "Oxfordshire genealogy group" <OXFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:12 PM > Subject: [OXF] House in Hanborough > > > >I wonder if any sleuth who knows the area around Long > Hanborough might > >solve > > a puzzle I have, or otherwise anyone might suggest a > different course of > > research. > > > > I am trying to work out exactly which house my great > grandfather Archie > > DUNKLEY occupied in Hanborough in the period between > 1910 and 1918, when > > he > > died. I thought this might be fairly simple, given > that there was a > > census, > > but no. My grandmother Dorothy grew up in the house > and once told me a > > little about it, though at the time I did not think to > ask further about > > its > > exact location. Here's the clues: > > > > 1. Several postcards to the family simply show the > address as 'Hanborough, > > Woodstock'. > > > > 2. Archie was Clerk of Works at Blenheim, working at > Combe Mill, and was > > thus well paid. Dorothy remembered moving into the > house, which she said > > consisted of two cottages 'knocked into one by the > Duke for us', which > > suggests that the house was then in Estate ownership > and also that the > > renovations were recent. > > > > 3. She described the garden as having a lawn for > children to play on, with > > a > > tennis court and bowling green, and gardeners supplied > by the Duke to tend > > them. So, even if not still there now, at that time > there was plenty of > > space around the house. > > > > 4. The 1911 census only gives the address as > 'Hanborough' but it does > > indicate that the house had seven rooms. > > > > 5. The Victoria County History doesn't reveal much > about individual > > houses, > > though it does say that in 1910 the Estate was selling > building plots. It > > hasn't helped with identification > > > > 6. Google Earth has granted a bird's eye view of the > village, but there is > > nothing obvious revealed as a likely candidate other > than, perhaps, the > > Manor House where there are imprints in the lawn and > perhaps some old > > buildings to the west. I'm not convinced ... Nothing > particular yells at > > me > > from the old maps on old-maps.co.uk > > > > Which leaves my question: what would once have had an > address as simple as > > 'Hanborough, Woodstock' (while the 1911 census has > many houses addressed > > as > > this, there are also a number identified by name > and/or street, which > > might > > imply that the simplicity of having no name or street > indicates the main > > street through Hanborough)? > > > > Has anyone any idea which house this might be, or > where to look next for > > information? How might I work out which houses were > being modified (and > > which owned) by the Estate in 1910? > > > > Chris Howes > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > OFHS "Wills Library" : > > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3774 - > Release Date: 07/19/11 > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

CCED shows John COPPOCK as curate of Tetsworth chapel 1679-1686. http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp But there's nothing helpful in the PRs. I see that some of the first COPPOCK christenings at Great Milton are children of Thomas & Mary Coppock of Wheatley. Have you checked there? On 19/07/2011 15:05, Dave Coppock wrote: > Hello All > > I'm looking for a baptism for Sarah BELCHER around 1789 Great Milton? Father > possibly James? > > Robert COPPOCK married Sarah BELCHER 5th Jul 1813 at Great Milton, both > otp. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Also looking for the burial of Anne COPPOCK(E) after 1687 > (but her name may be spelt in many different ways > Cobbock/Cobbit/Cobbet/Cobbuck/Coppit/Coppet/Coppack etc.) > > She was alive September 1686 Great Haseley with 5 children, named in the > Inventory of her husband John Coppock(e) (Left no Will), who was curate and > school teacher at Great Haseley and sometime Stoke Talmage. > At Great Haseley on 3rd Jun 1687 she buried a daughter Anne, and she was > entered in the register as Mrs Coppock. > > Her living children, baptised their families at Great Milton beginning in > the parish registers 1711 but I can find no record of her burial there, or > at Great Haseley. > > any help appreciated > > Best wishes Dave > > > David F. Coppock > Blaby Leicestershire > England > Guild of One-Name Studies 2750 > Oxford Family History Society 922 > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Paul Thanks for prompt help and for Sarah Belcher baptism. Ann COPPOCK the wife of John COPPOCK of Great Haseley was I believe Ann PARMEE, the daughter of Richard PARMEE, of Beard Mill, Stanton Harcourt, but I have no baptism or marriage information as the registers are missing. Robert COPPOCK, who was Johns brother, married Elizabeth PARMEE, again no marriage register information, but the marriage is mentioned in subsequent legal documents. I think the Anne you mention could be another Anne COPPOCK the daughter of another Robert COPPOCK and Mary COPPOCK (nee HUST) baptised 2nd May 1725, but the only reason I have identified her as the young Anne is that I can find no other references to this Anne's later marriage , burial etc. But you may be right? It would be nice if they gave the ages of the people who died. Hopefully Anne COPPOCK did nor remarry but she was left with a young family, but nothing has been found after years of effort. However there is a big gap between children in Great Haseley and their reappearance in Great Milton with no information. (Back to the OCRO?) Thanks again for your help. Best Wishes Dave David F. Coppock Blaby Leicestershire England Guild of One-Name Studies 2750 Oxford Family History Society 922 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Irving" <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [OXF] Sarah Belcher > > Sarah BELCHER chr 8 Oct 1789 Great Milton, parents given as Richard & > Jane in OFHS transcription, with note "mother given as James (sic". > > Do you have any idea when Ann COPPOCK was born? If her grandchildren > started being baptised at Great Milton in 1711, maybe she lived until > 1737, when Ann COPPOCK was buried there - 23 Aug. Or have you already > eliminated that Ann? Alternatively, have you considered that she might > have remarried? > > I see that Mr John Coppock(e) had children at Great Haseley 1675-82. His > widow might have lived to 1737. > > On 19/07/2011 15:05, Dave Coppock wrote: >> Hello All >> >> I'm looking for a baptism for Sarah BELCHER around 1789 Great Milton? >> Father >> possibly James? >> >> Robert COPPOCK married Sarah BELCHER 5th Jul 1813 at Great Milton, >> both >> otp. >> >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> >> Also looking for the burial of Anne COPPOCK(E) after 1687 >> (but her name may be spelt in many different ways >> Cobbock/Cobbit/Cobbet/Cobbuck/Coppit/Coppet/Coppack etc.) >> >> She was alive September 1686 Great Haseley with 5 children, named in the >> Inventory of her husband John Coppock(e) (Left no Will), who was curate >> and >> school teacher at Great Haseley and sometime Stoke Talmage. >> At Great Haseley on 3rd Jun 1687 she buried a daughter Anne, and she was >> entered in the register as Mrs Coppock. >> >> Her living children, baptised their families at Great Milton beginning in >> the parish registers 1711 but I can find no record of her burial there, >> or >> at Great Haseley. >> >> any help appreciated >> >> Best wishes Dave >> >> >> David F. Coppock >> Blaby Leicestershire >> England >> Guild of One-Name Studies 2750 >> Oxford Family History Society 922 >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> OFHS "Wills Library" : >> Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Chris If you can get to TNA then the IR58 series - Rates survey - might help, the rate books show (in most cases) who was living at a property circa 1910 to 1915, this ties up with a large scale map which shows individual properties. I have managed to identify a few ancestors houses this way. Try the TNA labs site as a starting point - http://labs.nationalarchives.gov.uk/wordpress/index.php/2010/04/valuation-office-map-finder/ Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Howes" <descent@wildplaces.co.uk> To: "Oxfordshire genealogy group" <OXFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:12 PM Subject: [OXF] House in Hanborough >I wonder if any sleuth who knows the area around Long Hanborough might >solve > a puzzle I have, or otherwise anyone might suggest a different course of > research. > > I am trying to work out exactly which house my great grandfather Archie > DUNKLEY occupied in Hanborough in the period between 1910 and 1918, when > he > died. I thought this might be fairly simple, given that there was a > census, > but no. My grandmother Dorothy grew up in the house and once told me a > little about it, though at the time I did not think to ask further about > its > exact location. Here's the clues: > > 1. Several postcards to the family simply show the address as 'Hanborough, > Woodstock'. > > 2. Archie was Clerk of Works at Blenheim, working at Combe Mill, and was > thus well paid. Dorothy remembered moving into the house, which she said > consisted of two cottages 'knocked into one by the Duke for us', which > suggests that the house was then in Estate ownership and also that the > renovations were recent. > > 3. She described the garden as having a lawn for children to play on, with > a > tennis court and bowling green, and gardeners supplied by the Duke to tend > them. So, even if not still there now, at that time there was plenty of > space around the house. > > 4. The 1911 census only gives the address as 'Hanborough' but it does > indicate that the house had seven rooms. > > 5. The Victoria County History doesn't reveal much about individual > houses, > though it does say that in 1910 the Estate was selling building plots. It > hasn't helped with identification > > 6. Google Earth has granted a bird's eye view of the village, but there is > nothing obvious revealed as a likely candidate other than, perhaps, the > Manor House where there are imprints in the lawn and perhaps some old > buildings to the west. I'm not convinced ... Nothing particular yells at > me > from the old maps on old-maps.co.uk > > Which leaves my question: what would once have had an address as simple as > 'Hanborough, Woodstock' (while the 1911 census has many houses addressed > as > this, there are also a number identified by name and/or street, which > might > imply that the simplicity of having no name or street indicates the main > street through Hanborough)? > > Has anyone any idea which house this might be, or where to look next for > information? How might I work out which houses were being modified (and > which owned) by the Estate in 1910? > > Chris Howes > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3774 - Release Date: 07/19/11 >

Sarah BELCHER chr 8 Oct 1789 Great Milton, parents given as Richard & Jane in OFHS transcription, with note "mother given as James (sic". Do you have any idea when Ann COPPOCK was born? If her grandchildren started being baptised at Great Milton in 1711, maybe she lived until 1737, when Ann COPPOCK was buried there - 23 Aug. Or have you already eliminated that Ann? Alternatively, have you considered that she might have remarried? I see that Mr John Coppock(e) had children at Great Haseley 1675-82. His widow might have lived to 1737. On 19/07/2011 15:05, Dave Coppock wrote: > Hello All > > I'm looking for a baptism for Sarah BELCHER around 1789 Great Milton? Father > possibly James? > > Robert COPPOCK married Sarah BELCHER 5th Jul 1813 at Great Milton, both > otp. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Also looking for the burial of Anne COPPOCK(E) after 1687 > (but her name may be spelt in many different ways > Cobbock/Cobbit/Cobbet/Cobbuck/Coppit/Coppet/Coppack etc.) > > She was alive September 1686 Great Haseley with 5 children, named in the > Inventory of her husband John Coppock(e) (Left no Will), who was curate and > school teacher at Great Haseley and sometime Stoke Talmage. > At Great Haseley on 3rd Jun 1687 she buried a daughter Anne, and she was > entered in the register as Mrs Coppock. > > Her living children, baptised their families at Great Milton beginning in > the parish registers 1711 but I can find no record of her burial there, or > at Great Haseley. > > any help appreciated > > Best wishes Dave > > > David F. Coppock > Blaby Leicestershire > England > Guild of One-Name Studies 2750 > Oxford Family History Society 922 > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >