I believe I some time ago posted a request for the entry of William WRIGHT to be checked in the Witney registers for burials as the transcription may be inaccurate. May I ask what is the situation now re the check of the Witney burial register against the Witney transcription? Richard Goulden In a message dated 17/08/2011 11:19:38 GMT Daylight Time, wharcher@cvd.co.uk writes: Mike - Yes, I'm happy to do that - the relevant register is at the Oxfordshire History Centre. You're always welcome to contact OFHS with any queries about our transcriptions. Wendy Chairman, Oxfordshire FHS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike in Droitwich" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: [OXF] Fredericka TAPLIN burial Enstone > Hi All > > In the OFHS transcription of Enstone burial there is an entry for the > burial of a Fredericka TAPLIN age 2 Neat Enstone. > The TAPLIN's did not appear to baptise their children in Enstone and in > the GRO indexes the entry gives Frederick. > > Can anyone check the entry in the parish register please ? > > Mike in Droitwich > OFHS 5345 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My family line is BURROWS which turns up we think as Burras, Burris etc in centuries past - and I think the Burrin variation could well be considered too. Same general area too! Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Wyatt Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:17 AM To: OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:18:57 +0100 From: "Sharon Kirk" <sharon.kirk4@btinternet.com> Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Cowley To: <OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cc5b88$90666010$b1332030$@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, I have reached a total impasse with my family research into the HARRIS & BURRIN families of Cowley & Beckley Oxfordshire. I myself was a Harris (born in London) & I have been searching for over 10 years to discover where my Great Great Grandfather was born. REPLY Sharon, I can't help directly but I wonder whether Burrin is a variation on the name of BURREN, which crops up in my tree in Charlton on Otmoor in the mid 1600's. Knowing how many variations there are in the records for both the family names I am particularly interested in, Wyatt and Luing, you might find you could make progress by checking out variations of both names. In the parish registers for Charlton there are Burrin, Burren, Buran births, deaths and marriages dating from 1628 up to 1721. From there the family disappears from the records I have, but the 1841 census records may help to pin them down. Good luck Alan Wyatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6381 (20110816) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6381 (20110816) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi all   My Great Grandfather is listed at his daughters wedding in 1901, Banbury as a Licensed Victualler (The Old Wharf Inn, Mill Lane, Banbury)   Are there any records at any of the various libraries where such things are listed?   Many thanks Neil

The 7-year period comes from a section of an early bigamy act, and was intended to cover situations where one party had gone overseas and nothing further had been heard of him or her. Perhaps Mary Ann lied on the birth certificate about the date of transportation because she knew of the 7-year rule and wanted to shorten the waiting period. Here is the link for anyone else wishing to search for a convict sent to VDL. http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 HB   > From: Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011, 23:30 > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE > AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH > > Well, after 7 years of not hearing anything, you could have > the person > presumed dead so you were free to marry again.  It > happened quite a lot when > one spouse was eg in Australia and the other in England. > And I am sure too > that the odd letter that might have come in that 7 years > could be easily > "lost" or "forgotten" if it helped to bring the seven years > period to > completion earlier. > > I think today when a person is missing - eg went fishing, > car and clothes > found but no body, rough sea,..  it takes seven years for > the family to be > able to claim them dead - and so get access to eg > superannuation and > insurance - and probably the will. Not a good place to be, > waiting those > seven years!  > > Dawn (Melbourne Australia) > > -----Original Message----- > From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of lynne scaife > Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 2:46 AM > To: oxfordshire list > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE > AND GARDNER - > KEDONAUGH > > > Hi Wendy > > Nice to hear from you. > > So much happened yesterday, I hardly know where to begin, > but my brick wall > is knocked down! > > Firstly, when I checked the post, the birth certificate had > arrived for my > great grandmother, Eliza GARDNER.  No father's name > mentioned, as expected, > but it says her maiden name was FLETCHER. > > The GARDNER's I found on the 1841 were the wrong family.  > I made a basic > error and presumed too much.  I have, however, now found > the correct family > and here they are: > > H0 107/889/14, Deddington, Philcock Street: > > GARDNER, Mary, 30, Y > GARDNER, Elizabeth, 7, Y > GARDNER, Sarah, 4, Y > FLETCHER, James, 1, Y > GARDNER, Mary, 9, Y > > and right next door: > > FLETCHER, William, 71, Cooper, Y > BETTS, Elizabeth, 60, Y > FLETCHER, Elizabeth 69, Y > FLETCHER, Jane, 24, Y. > > Elizabeth aged 7 died 10 years later, and I think must have > been their first > child.  It looks as though Sarah is another sibling, but I > can't find her > birth.  James Fletcher is the son of Jane Fletcher, and I > don't know who the > Mary aged 9 is, since it's the bottom of the list, perhaps > it's a > visitor/other family member. > > Mary FLETCHER was c. in Chipping Norton 11 06 1810.  (Mary > not Mary Ann > according to the IGI.)  I have considered the Adderbury > marriage in 1830, > Robert Gardner to Mary Fletcher, but I'd like to check the > Chipping Norton > PR's to see if there is a marriage there.  So if anyone > has the Chippy PR's > and wouldn't mind having a look, I'd be very grateful.  > Howard, I've > wondered all along if Mary did actually marry a GARDNER, > but if she didn't, > why did she and thomas WILKINS wait so long to wed.  I > don't suppose she > would have been informed of his death, but wonder in a > transportation case, > whether you could remarry after a certain time lapse if no > contact was > received? > > Judy in London very kindly found the transporation details > for Richard > GARDNER, he was in fact transported for 7 years in 1839 to > NSW and died in > Sydney General Hospital the year after.  He was > transported for a most > curious case of perjury. > > Many thanks > Lynne > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:44:33 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly > SKUCE AND GARDNER - > KEDONAUGH > > > > Howard & Lynne > > > > Mary Ann KEDONAUGH intrigued by this name so put just > the last name into > > family search and came up with NO hits and their > phonetic suggestions were > > all Germanic or Scandinavian. Similar search on > ancestry again no hits - > it > > produced Keating variations and Keutenius (in London > marriages) and the > > wonderfully named 'Money Kathnasses' (her husband was > a German born violin > > maker). > > > > suspect the celebrant misheard or had his own phonetic > spelling of some > > other name. > > > > Only possibility I can come up with is Kennedy > > > > Wendy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Howard Fuller > > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:21 AM > > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly > SKUCE AND GARDNER > > > > Hello Lynne, > > > > Others have offered help with SKUCE but this may help > with GARD(I/E)NER. > > > > You say Mary Ann (surname unknown) was the mother of > your > > g-grandmother. You want to know who Mary Ann's parents > were. > > > > >From the 1841 Census you deduce that her (first) > marriage was to > > Robert GARDNER in about 1825/26, but you can't find > this marriage. > > > > When, as a widow, she married Thomas WILKINS in > Deddington on 12 May > > 1865, the register says only that her father's name is > William, that > > he is a cooper, but it gives no surname. > > > > According to her age in the 1851 and 1871 censuses, > Mary Ann was born > > in about 1802-5 in Chipping Norton. Eight Mary Ann's > were baptised at > > Chipping Norton in 1800 to 1807. Two of these had > father = William: > > - 1801 Apr 26 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Mary > KEDONAUGH > > - 1805 May 12 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Ann > BUSSWELL > > > > Unfortunately, I can't find who Mary Ann KEDONAUGH > married - if she > > did. But Mary Ann BUSSWELL married Samuel ENDALL at > Chipping Norton on > > 18 Jul 1826. > > > > Pehaps Robert GARDNER and his Mary Ann didn't actually > get married? > > > > No real progress, I'm afraid! > > > > Howard > > > > > > On 10/08/2011 19:27, lynne scaife wrote: > > > > > > Dear List > > > > > > I have been absent from the list for a while, of > late mainly due to PC > > > problems. But I'm back! > > > > > > I am researching mainly SKUCE in Deddington and > Charlbury, but many > other > > > names that married into the line. > > > > > > I have recently reserected a family skeleton - > the curious case of Mary > > > Ann and Robert GARDNER. > > > Mary is the mother of my great grandmother Eliza > SKUCE nee GARDNER. It's > > > now most certain that the man Mary Ann married is > not the father of my > > > great grand mother, or any of the subsequent > children, and that Robert, > > > was actually transported for goodness knows > what! > > > > > > Mary Ann was born about 1805 in Chipping Norton > according to 1841 and > 1851 > > > and other census' of Deddington. > > > > > > She married 1. Robert GARDNER about 1825/26. I > can not find this > marriage > > > from the IGI, as there are no marriages > coverage. > > > > > > I've found them on the 1841 which shows: > > > Chipping Norton, Churchill Road, H0107/879/3 > > > > > > Robert GARDNER, 45, Labourer, "Y" (in county) > > > Mary GARDNER, 35, Y > > > Ann GARDNER, 14, Y > > > Robert GARDNER, 12, Y > > > John GARDNER, 7, Y > > > Jane GARDNER, 5, Y > > > Thomas GARDNER, 3, Y > > > > > > And 1851 shows: > > > Deddington, Philcock Street > > > > > > Mary GARDNER, 45, 1806, House servant, Chipping > Norton > > > Elizabeth GARDNER, 8, Deddington, (note this > should be Eliza not > > > Elizabeth, my great grandmother) > > > George GARDNER, 6, Deddington > > > Emma GARDNER, 4, Deddington > > > Harriet GARDNER, 1, Deddington > > > All living in the household of Thomas Wilkins who > she later married in > > > 1865! > > > > > >> From previous kind help, and copies of PRs > and a couple of > certificates, > > >> I know that Robert GARDNER was transported > around about 1839-41, and on > > >> the PR for Eliza's birth, who was a twin with > Eleanor, (Eleanor died 11 > > >> weeks later), bapt. 24 02 1843 in Deddington, > it states that Robert is > > >> not the father of these children. It's more > than likely that Thomas > > >> WILKINS is the father of Eleanor and Eliza, > and several subsequent > > >> children all born before she married him in > 1865. > > > > > > There are several discrepancies queries re. the > above, but mainly: > > > > > > 1. The date of his transportation. Pam in NZ > kindly helped back in 2005 > > > with information that Robert GARDNER, convict no. > 28130 departed > > > Portsmouth 14 07 1841 (6 weeks after the 1841 > census carried out on 16th > > > June 1841), on the Lord Goderich bound for > Tasmania. The main problem > > > with this, is when Isabella GARDNER AKA Louisa > was bapt. 12 06 1853, > Mary > > > Ann states on the registration that father was > transported 1839. That's > a > > > 2 year discrepancy. > > > > > > I am in contact now with the Archives Office of > Tasmania to see if I can > > > get any further with his transportation. > > > > > > 2. I am desperate to know who Mary Ann's parents > were. When she married > > > Thomas WILKINS in 1865, register says her > father's name is William, but > > > infuriatingly, she does not give a surname, only > that he is a "cooper" > > > (prof.) > > > > > > If any one can offer me any advice, I'll gladly > take it and be eternally > > > grateful. > > > > > > Kindest regards > > > Lynne Scaife > > > Tenerife > > > >

Thanks I had not thought of that variation. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dawn Webb Sent: 16 August 2011 13:30 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families My family line is BURROWS which turns up we think as Burras, Burris etc in centuries past - and I think the Burrin variation could well be considered too. Same general area too! Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Wyatt Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:17 AM To: OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:18:57 +0100 From: "Sharon Kirk" <sharon.kirk4@btinternet.com> Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Cowley To: <OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cc5b88$90666010$b1332030$@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, I have reached a total impasse with my family research into the HARRIS & BURRIN families of Cowley & Beckley Oxfordshire. I myself was a Harris (born in London) & I have been searching for over 10 years to discover where my Great Great Grandfather was born. REPLY Sharon, I can't help directly but I wonder whether Burrin is a variation on the name of BURREN, which crops up in my tree in Charlton on Otmoor in the mid 1600's. Knowing how many variations there are in the records for both the family names I am particularly interested in, Wyatt and Luing, you might find you could make progress by checking out variations of both names. In the parish registers for Charlton there are Burrin, Burren, Buran births, deaths and marriages dating from 1628 up to 1721. From there the family disappears from the records I have, but the 1841 census records may help to pin them down. Good luck Alan Wyatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6381 (20110816) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6381 (20110816) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Neil, The book "The Licensees of the Inns, Taverns and Beerhouses of Banbury, Oxfordshire was published by Oxfordshire Family History Society, but sadly is now out of print - unless somebody knows where to find a copy. It lists Josiah Canvin as the licensee of the Old Wharf Inn from 1898 to 1905. However the only Josiah marriage in 1901 in the Banbury area was a Josiah BALL, probably a Register Office wedding. It always helps with queries to give as much detail as possible. The surnames of the couple would help ! Hugh

Oh no, no no no, not my Richard Dover again!!! Even more to add to his life of crime and violence. His poor family! Thanks for posting this to the list, I think I'm going to end up with an encyclopedia on Richard! Best wishes, Jon

Many thanks for the suggestion. Spelling variants can be a nightmare. I have even come across variants of the spelling of Harris. Many thanks Sharon -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Wyatt Sent: 16 August 2011 00:17 To: OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:18:57 +0100 From: "Sharon Kirk" <sharon.kirk4@btinternet.com> Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Cowley To: <OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cc5b88$90666010$b1332030$@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, I have reached a total impasse with my family research into the HARRIS & BURRIN families of Cowley & Beckley Oxfordshire. I myself was a Harris (born in London) & I have been searching for over 10 years to discover where my Great Great Grandfather was born. REPLY Sharon, I can’t help directly but I wonder whether Burrin is a variation on the name of BURREN, which crops up in my tree in Charlton on Otmoor in the mid 1600’s. Knowing how many variations there are in the records for both the family names I am particularly interested in, Wyatt and Luing, you might find you could make progress by checking out variations of both names. In the parish registers for Charlton there are Burrin, Burren, Buran births, deaths and marriages dating from 1628 up to 1721. From there the family disappears from the records I have, but the 1841 census records may help to pin them down. Good luck Alan Wyatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers I attended Leckford Rd School as an infant circa 1945 - 48, early '49 ish.. We lived at the Junction of Woodstock Rd, and Canterbury Ave. Does anyone know if there is a contact I can find re admission dates. We are trying to clear up some family 'myths' My Brother was Bapt at St Johns Ch, early 1949. The Church is next door to my former home. Robert Freeman March Cambs

Well, after 7 years of not hearing anything, you could have the person presumed dead so you were free to marry again. It happened quite a lot when one spouse was eg in Australia and the other in England. And I am sure too that the odd letter that might have come in that 7 years could be easily "lost" or "forgotten" if it helped to bring the seven years period to completion earlier. I think today when a person is missing - eg went fishing, car and clothes found but no body, rough sea,.. it takes seven years for the family to be able to claim them dead - and so get access to eg superannuation and insurance - and probably the will. Not a good place to be, waiting those seven years! Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lynne scaife Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 2:46 AM To: oxfordshire list Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH Hi Wendy Nice to hear from you. So much happened yesterday, I hardly know where to begin, but my brick wall is knocked down! Firstly, when I checked the post, the birth certificate had arrived for my great grandmother, Eliza GARDNER. No father's name mentioned, as expected, but it says her maiden name was FLETCHER. The GARDNER's I found on the 1841 were the wrong family. I made a basic error and presumed too much. I have, however, now found the correct family and here they are: H0 107/889/14, Deddington, Philcock Street: GARDNER, Mary, 30, Y GARDNER, Elizabeth, 7, Y GARDNER, Sarah, 4, Y FLETCHER, James, 1, Y GARDNER, Mary, 9, Y and right next door: FLETCHER, William, 71, Cooper, Y BETTS, Elizabeth, 60, Y FLETCHER, Elizabeth 69, Y FLETCHER, Jane, 24, Y. Elizabeth aged 7 died 10 years later, and I think must have been their first child. It looks as though Sarah is another sibling, but I can't find her birth. James Fletcher is the son of Jane Fletcher, and I don't know who the Mary aged 9 is, since it's the bottom of the list, perhaps it's a visitor/other family member. Mary FLETCHER was c. in Chipping Norton 11 06 1810. (Mary not Mary Ann according to the IGI.) I have considered the Adderbury marriage in 1830, Robert Gardner to Mary Fletcher, but I'd like to check the Chipping Norton PR's to see if there is a marriage there. So if anyone has the Chippy PR's and wouldn't mind having a look, I'd be very grateful. Howard, I've wondered all along if Mary did actually marry a GARDNER, but if she didn't, why did she and thomas WILKINS wait so long to wed. I don't suppose she would have been informed of his death, but wonder in a transportation case, whether you could remarry after a certain time lapse if no contact was received? Judy in London very kindly found the transporation details for Richard GARDNER, he was in fact transported for 7 years in 1839 to NSW and died in Sydney General Hospital the year after. He was transported for a most curious case of perjury. Many thanks Lynne ---------------------------------------- > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:44:33 +0100 > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH > > Howard & Lynne > > Mary Ann KEDONAUGH intrigued by this name so put just the last name into > family search and came up with NO hits and their phonetic suggestions were > all Germanic or Scandinavian. Similar search on ancestry again no hits - it > produced Keating variations and Keutenius (in London marriages) and the > wonderfully named 'Money Kathnasses' (her husband was a German born violin > maker). > > suspect the celebrant misheard or had his own phonetic spelling of some > other name. > > Only possibility I can come up with is Kennedy > > Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Howard Fuller > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:21 AM > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER > > Hello Lynne, > > Others have offered help with SKUCE but this may help with GARD(I/E)NER. > > You say Mary Ann (surname unknown) was the mother of your > g-grandmother. You want to know who Mary Ann's parents were. > > >From the 1841 Census you deduce that her (first) marriage was to > Robert GARDNER in about 1825/26, but you can't find this marriage. > > When, as a widow, she married Thomas WILKINS in Deddington on 12 May > 1865, the register says only that her father's name is William, that > he is a cooper, but it gives no surname. > > According to her age in the 1851 and 1871 censuses, Mary Ann was born > in about 1802-5 in Chipping Norton. Eight Mary Ann's were baptised at > Chipping Norton in 1800 to 1807. Two of these had father = William: > - 1801 Apr 26 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Mary KEDONAUGH > - 1805 May 12 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Ann BUSSWELL > > Unfortunately, I can't find who Mary Ann KEDONAUGH married - if she > did. But Mary Ann BUSSWELL married Samuel ENDALL at Chipping Norton on > 18 Jul 1826. > > Pehaps Robert GARDNER and his Mary Ann didn't actually get married? > > No real progress, I'm afraid! > > Howard > > > On 10/08/2011 19:27, lynne scaife wrote: > > > > Dear List > > > > I have been absent from the list for a while, of late mainly due to PC > > problems. But I'm back! > > > > I am researching mainly SKUCE in Deddington and Charlbury, but many other > > names that married into the line. > > > > I have recently reserected a family skeleton - the curious case of Mary > > Ann and Robert GARDNER. > > Mary is the mother of my great grandmother Eliza SKUCE nee GARDNER. It's > > now most certain that the man Mary Ann married is not the father of my > > great grand mother, or any of the subsequent children, and that Robert, > > was actually transported for goodness knows what! > > > > Mary Ann was born about 1805 in Chipping Norton according to 1841 and 1851 > > and other census' of Deddington. > > > > She married 1. Robert GARDNER about 1825/26. I can not find this marriage > > from the IGI, as there are no marriages coverage. > > > > I've found them on the 1841 which shows: > > Chipping Norton, Churchill Road, H0107/879/3 > > > > Robert GARDNER, 45, Labourer, "Y" (in county) > > Mary GARDNER, 35, Y > > Ann GARDNER, 14, Y > > Robert GARDNER, 12, Y > > John GARDNER, 7, Y > > Jane GARDNER, 5, Y > > Thomas GARDNER, 3, Y > > > > And 1851 shows: > > Deddington, Philcock Street > > > > Mary GARDNER, 45, 1806, House servant, Chipping Norton > > Elizabeth GARDNER, 8, Deddington, (note this should be Eliza not > > Elizabeth, my great grandmother) > > George GARDNER, 6, Deddington > > Emma GARDNER, 4, Deddington > > Harriet GARDNER, 1, Deddington > > All living in the household of Thomas Wilkins who she later married in > > 1865! > > > >> From previous kind help, and copies of PRs and a couple of certificates, > >> I know that Robert GARDNER was transported around about 1839-41, and on > >> the PR for Eliza's birth, who was a twin with Eleanor, (Eleanor died 11 > >> weeks later), bapt. 24 02 1843 in Deddington, it states that Robert is > >> not the father of these children. It's more than likely that Thomas > >> WILKINS is the father of Eleanor and Eliza, and several subsequent > >> children all born before she married him in 1865. > > > > There are several discrepancies queries re. the above, but mainly: > > > > 1. The date of his transportation. Pam in NZ kindly helped back in 2005 > > with information that Robert GARDNER, convict no. 28130 departed > > Portsmouth 14 07 1841 (6 weeks after the 1841 census carried out on 16th > > June 1841), on the Lord Goderich bound for Tasmania. The main problem > > with this, is when Isabella GARDNER AKA Louisa was bapt. 12 06 1853, Mary > > Ann states on the registration that father was transported 1839. That's a > > 2 year discrepancy. > > > > I am in contact now with the Archives Office of Tasmania to see if I can > > get any further with his transportation. > > > > 2. I am desperate to know who Mary Ann's parents were. When she married > > Thomas WILKINS in 1865, register says her father's name is William, but > > infuriatingly, she does not give a surname, only that he is a "cooper" > > (prof.) > > > > If any one can offer me any advice, I'll gladly take it and be eternally > > grateful. > > > > Kindest regards > > Lynne Scaife > > Tenerife > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > OFHS "Wills Library" : > > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6380 (20110815) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi  Dawn,  back in the early 1960s when I was going trough my first divorce  the sdolicvtortold me at srtatford court I would need to wait a period of 7 years unless I could prove my then wife had commited adultry she later admited this so I got my fist of  two divorces but living in ther london area  ment I had to attend the admimiratly court that wasthen in the old bailey and I wasv very surprised at the people mainly old ladies that were wandering around reading the singes on the court doors saying wehat cases were bing defended and propted to go listen to all thedetails of contested cases rather than sit through a boring non contested case  I phoned the ex afterthe case to give her the good news and we celebrated the divorce by me taking her out for a drink and on to a meal.   the second wasone of these quickie divorces in norwich crown court in the 1970s period. the third is still going strong but being 74 now I think this will be my last we bhave 6 children all of them are maried now .   thanks pete               From: Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011, 23:30 Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH Well, after 7 years of not hearing anything, you could have the person presumed dead so you were free to marry again.  It happened quite a lot when one spouse was eg in Australia and the other in England. And I am sure too that the odd letter that might have come in that 7 years could be easily "lost" or "forgotten" if it helped to bring the seven years period to completion earlier. I think today when a person is missing - eg went fishing, car and clothes found but no body, rough sea,..  it takes seven years for the family to be able to claim them dead - and so get access to eg superannuation and insurance - and probably the will. Not a good place to be, waiting those seven years!  Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lynne scaife Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 2:46 AM To: oxfordshire list Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH Hi Wendy Nice to hear from you. So much happened yesterday, I hardly know where to begin, but my brick wall is knocked down! Firstly, when I checked the post, the birth certificate had arrived for my great grandmother, Eliza GARDNER.  No father's name mentioned, as expected, but it says her maiden name was FLETCHER. The GARDNER's I found on the 1841 were the wrong family.  I made a basic error and presumed too much.  I have, however, now found the correct family and here they are: H0 107/889/14, Deddington, Philcock Street: GARDNER, Mary, 30, Y GARDNER, Elizabeth, 7, Y GARDNER, Sarah, 4, Y FLETCHER, James, 1, Y GARDNER, Mary, 9, Y and right next door: FLETCHER, William, 71, Cooper, Y BETTS, Elizabeth, 60, Y FLETCHER, Elizabeth 69, Y FLETCHER, Jane, 24, Y. Elizabeth aged 7 died 10 years later, and I think must have been their first child.  It looks as though Sarah is another sibling, but I can't find her birth.  James Fletcher is the son of Jane Fletcher, and I don't know who the Mary aged 9 is, since it's the bottom of the list, perhaps it's a visitor/other family member. Mary FLETCHER was c. in Chipping Norton 11 06 1810.  (Mary not Mary Ann according to the IGI.)  I have considered the Adderbury marriage in 1830, Robert Gardner to Mary Fletcher, but I'd like to check the Chipping Norton PR's to see if there is a marriage there.  So if anyone has the Chippy PR's and wouldn't mind having a look, I'd be very grateful.  Howard, I've wondered all along if Mary did actually marry a GARDNER, but if she didn't, why did she and thomas WILKINS wait so long to wed.  I don't suppose she would have been informed of his death, but wonder in a transportation case, whether you could remarry after a certain time lapse if no contact was received? Judy in London very kindly found the transporation details for Richard GARDNER, he was in fact transported for 7 years in 1839 to NSW and died in Sydney General Hospital the year after.  He was transported for a most curious case of perjury. Many thanks Lynne ---------------------------------------- > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:44:33 +0100 > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH > > Howard & Lynne > > Mary Ann KEDONAUGH intrigued by this name so put just the last name into > family search and came up with NO hits and their phonetic suggestions were > all Germanic or Scandinavian. Similar search on ancestry again no hits - it > produced Keating variations and Keutenius (in London marriages) and the > wonderfully named 'Money Kathnasses' (her husband was a German born violin > maker). > > suspect the celebrant misheard or had his own phonetic spelling of some > other name. > > Only possibility I can come up with is Kennedy > > Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Howard Fuller > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:21 AM > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER > > Hello Lynne, > > Others have offered help with SKUCE but this may help with GARD(I/E)NER. > > You say Mary Ann (surname unknown) was the mother of your > g-grandmother. You want to know who Mary Ann's parents were. > > >From the 1841 Census you deduce that her (first) marriage was to > Robert GARDNER in about 1825/26, but you can't find this marriage. > > When, as a widow, she married Thomas WILKINS in Deddington on 12 May > 1865, the register says only that her father's name is William, that > he is a cooper, but it gives no surname. > > According to her age in the 1851 and 1871 censuses, Mary Ann was born > in about 1802-5 in Chipping Norton. Eight Mary Ann's were baptised at > Chipping Norton in 1800 to 1807. Two of these had father = William: > - 1801 Apr 26 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Mary KEDONAUGH > - 1805 May 12 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Ann BUSSWELL > > Unfortunately, I can't find who Mary Ann KEDONAUGH married - if she > did. But Mary Ann BUSSWELL married Samuel ENDALL at Chipping Norton on > 18 Jul 1826. > > Pehaps Robert GARDNER and his Mary Ann didn't actually get married? > > No real progress, I'm afraid! > > Howard > > > On 10/08/2011 19:27, lynne scaife wrote: > > > > Dear List > > > > I have been absent from the list for a while, of late mainly due to PC > > problems. But I'm back! > > > > I am researching mainly SKUCE in Deddington and Charlbury, but many other > > names that married into the line. > > > > I have recently reserected a family skeleton - the curious case of Mary > > Ann and Robert GARDNER. > > Mary is the mother of my great grandmother Eliza SKUCE nee GARDNER. It's > > now most certain that the man Mary Ann married is not the father of my > > great grand mother, or any of the subsequent children, and that Robert, > > was actually transported for goodness knows what! > > > > Mary Ann was born about 1805 in Chipping Norton according to 1841 and 1851 > > and other census' of Deddington. > > > > She married 1. Robert GARDNER about 1825/26. I can not find this marriage > > from the IGI, as there are no marriages coverage. > > > > I've found them on the 1841 which shows: > > Chipping Norton, Churchill Road, H0107/879/3 > > > > Robert GARDNER, 45, Labourer, "Y" (in county) > > Mary GARDNER, 35, Y > > Ann GARDNER, 14, Y > > Robert GARDNER, 12, Y > > John GARDNER, 7, Y > > Jane GARDNER, 5, Y > > Thomas GARDNER, 3, Y > > > > And 1851 shows: > > Deddington, Philcock Street > > > > Mary GARDNER, 45, 1806, House servant, Chipping Norton > > Elizabeth GARDNER, 8, Deddington, (note this should be Eliza not > > Elizabeth, my great grandmother) > > George GARDNER, 6, Deddington > > Emma GARDNER, 4, Deddington > > Harriet GARDNER, 1, Deddington > > All living in the household of Thomas Wilkins who she later married in > > 1865! > > > >> From previous kind help, and copies of PRs and a couple of certificates, > >> I know that Robert GARDNER was transported around about 1839-41, and on > >> the PR for Eliza's birth, who was a twin with Eleanor, (Eleanor died 11 > >> weeks later), bapt. 24 02 1843 in Deddington, it states that Robert is > >> not the father of these children. It's more than likely that Thomas > >> WILKINS is the father of Eleanor and Eliza, and several subsequent > >> children all born before she married him in 1865. > > > > There are several discrepancies queries re. the above, but mainly: > > > > 1. The date of his transportation. Pam in NZ kindly helped back in 2005 > > with information that Robert GARDNER, convict no. 28130 departed > > Portsmouth 14 07 1841 (6 weeks after the 1841 census carried out on 16th > > June 1841), on the Lord Goderich bound for Tasmania. The main problem > > with this, is when Isabella GARDNER AKA Louisa was bapt. 12 06 1853, Mary > > Ann states on the registration that father was transported 1839. That's a > > 2 year discrepancy. > > > > I am in contact now with the Archives Office of Tasmania to see if I can > > get any further with his transportation. > > > > 2. I am desperate to know who Mary Ann's parents were. When she married > > Thomas WILKINS in 1865, register says her father's name is William, but > > infuriatingly, she does not give a surname, only that he is a "cooper" > > (prof.) > > > > If any one can offer me any advice, I'll gladly take it and be eternally > > grateful. > > > > Kindest regards > > Lynne Scaife > > Tenerife > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > OFHS "Wills Library" : > > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6380 (20110815) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:18:57 +0100 From: "Sharon Kirk" <sharon.kirk4@btinternet.com> Subject: [OXF] Harris and Burrin families Cowley To: <OXFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cc5b88$90666010$b1332030$@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, I have reached a total impasse with my family research into the HARRIS & BURRIN families of Cowley & Beckley Oxfordshire. I myself was a Harris (born in London) & I have been searching for over 10 years to discover where my Great Great Grandfather was born. REPLY Sharon, I can’t help directly but I wonder whether Burrin is a variation on the name of BURREN, which crops up in my tree in Charlton on Otmoor in the mid 1600’s. Knowing how many variations there are in the records for both the family names I am particularly interested in, Wyatt and Luing, you might find you could make progress by checking out variations of both names. In the parish registers for Charlton there are Burrin, Burren, Buran births, deaths and marriages dating from 1628 up to 1721. From there the family disappears from the records I have, but the 1841 census records may help to pin them down. Good luck Alan Wyatt

Hi Everyone, I have reached a total impasse with my family research into the HARRIS & BURRIN families of Cowley & Beckley Oxfordshire. I myself was a Harris (born in London) & I have been searching for over 10 years to discover where my Great Great Grandfather was born. I have the following information: JOHN BURRIN was born in 1788 in Garsington He was father to: WILLIAM BURRIN 1824 Cowley Oxfordshire who married HARRIET HARRIS 1823 Beckley Oxfordshire. HARRIET HARRIS father was a JOHN HARRIS & he was a Labourer They married on 30 August 1852 in the Parish Church St Helens Abingdon, Berkshire  (I have the marriage certificate) William is listed as a Mason, but in successive census gives a joint occupation of a Publican (in Cowley)  & Cricketer. They have the following children all of whom were born in COWLEY: JOHN BURRIN 1853 Professional Cricketer WILLIAM BURRIN 1855 MARY BURIN 1857 DAVID BURRIN 1859 Professional Cricketer EDMUND BURRIN 1863 Professional Cricketer JOHN BURRIN married ELIZA ANN HIGGS (Beckley) on 30th June 1879 (I have the marriage certificate)  in the Parish Church Beckley. They had one son JOHN WILLIAM BURRIN born in Cowley Marsh. JOHN BURRIN dies on 3rd October 1884 in Cowley Marsh (I have the death certificate) & his infant son, JOHN WILLIAM BURRIN  died on 5th October 1884.  I also have memorial cards for these deaths. I do know that members of the families who were not professional cricketers were ground keepers etc. I understand that many of the folk living in the Cowley Marsh area were associated with cricket in some form.  There were also members of the HARRIS family who were professional cricket players & visited (from London) to play matches in Oxford. I believe that some of the BURRIN & HARRIS families played for England. I understand from research on Cricket Websites that DAVID BURRIN was a good bowler following in the “Lillywhite fashion”!!!?. Other incidental information I have discovered mainly from the Newspapers of that time. WILLIAM BURRIN (senior & junior) appears in the Petty sessions frequently anything from serving drinks “out of hours”, allowing a horse to wander, to assault.  His name also pops up frequently in the Sport Columns re his Cricket prowess. to play matches in Oxford. I believe that some of the BURRIN & DAVID BURRIN in 1891 gives evidence of a drowning is stated as being the Custodian of Christ Church Cricket Ground. IN 1869 a SARAH BURRIN is charged with selling drinks outside licensing hours. Though I have been unable to establish to which public house this refers to. In 1886 there appears a lengthy case in which ELIZA ANN BURRIN appears. This is to do with the damage of her husband’s gravestone in Cowley Church by three young girls. There appears lots of other incidental information mainly about cricket matches that various members of the BURRIN family play in; death following a long & painful illness (WILLIAM BURRIN), a lingering illness (DAVID BURRIN), Various sales of oats, indecent assault & an accidental shooting. I have invested in the following Oxfordshire Family History CDs Parish register Transcripts for Headington Reg. District Vol 1 Parish Marriage index  1538 – 1837 Monumental Inscription Transcript for both Cowley & Beckley None of these have taken me any further forward though. I would really like any further information on the following: Anything on the HARRIS family compared to the information on the Burrin family I have nothing apart from the marriage of William & Harriet. Anything on the BURRIN family White Swan Public House, Cowley, which the BURRIN family ran. Information about the importance of Cricket in the Cowley Marsh area. If anyone one can assist I would be really grateful. Living in North East Scotland I am heavily reliant on information via on line sources and the occasional inter library loan. With many thanks Sharon Kirk (nee Harris) Banchory, Kincardineshire, Scotland

becomes Donkin, Dunkin and various other interpretations over the years and now that I have found who his mother was (from his military records - she had married) I now have yet another batch of Smiths to track oh joy! Interesting in a number of ways: his census records have one daughter with them in 1891 and 1901 who is elsewhere in 1911; a son James who doesn't appear until 1911 and is not on the earlier censuses under his father or his mother's last names and the child count on the 1911 shows 3 born 3 living so there is one more out there somewhere. His mother had three children before she married Joseph SMITH, the other two are on censuses as his children with the last name SMITH until they leave home. The 1911 child count for Mary and Joseph SMITH includes the three earlier children - 14 born, 13 living As I mentioned in an earlier message an off shoot of the tree and as I now cannot track most of her children after they leave home am content to let it rest as they didn't have the foresight to give the other children distinctive names - some names take toooo long to trace. Many thanks to everyone for their help on this Wendy -----Original Message----- From: lynne scaife Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:51 PM To: oxfordshire list Subject: Re: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN Dear Wendy My sympathies, this hobby of ours is most frustrting at times! It's a fairly unusual surname, I'll keep it in mind. Kind regards Lynne ---------------------------------------- > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:31:28 +0100 > Subject: Re: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN > > Lynne > > thank you for the suggestion but as I have been doing this for some years > now I have the CDs and I have all the grandparents, aunts, uncles and > cousins on both sides. In the case of Hannah and Joseph back into the 18th > century (with good sound researched material) There is little or no > Oxfordshire stuff on the IGI. He gives Tetsworth as his birthplace - again > the CD stops before his birth date. He is a minor, but irritating sprig on > the tree and if no one connects then I will with him what I do with all > such > sprigs once I have explored all the avenues = ignore 'em > > Wendy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lynne scaife > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:05 PM > To: oxfordshire list > Subject: Re: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN > > > Dear Wendy > > I've just had a little look at this for you, my sympathies, there doesn't > seem to be any IGI coverage for Lewknor at all. > > If you have the CD for baptisms, have you tried looking for the grand > parents, Joseph and Ann or Hannah, and then subsequent children? If George > Francis was born in 1863, the mother I would think would be at least 20 > years old, so I would look from 1843 backwards, which is within the range > of > your CD. > > Hope this helps a little. > > Regards > Lynne > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:35:28 +0100 > > Subject: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN > > > > > > Hi > > > > does anyone connect to George Francis DUNKIN born 1863 Lewknor and if so > > are > > you able to who his parents are please? I have the OFHS CD with Lewknor > > bmd > > but the baptisms finish at 1856. He is on the 1871 census with his > > grandparents Joseph DUNKIN and Ann or Hannah nee KING. I know that the > > other > > grandchild on the census is son of their daughter Jane as he is on a > > later > > census with her, but George is on his own by 1881 and not with parents > > at > > any stage. > > > > Wendy > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > OFHS "Wills Library" : > > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, There are still - well they were there last month - a couple of old stones on the side of Holy Trinity church St Ebbes, on St Ebbes Street. Kind Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of s.blackburn@tesco.net Sent: 15 August 2011 12:38 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Hello Hugh Many thanks for you reply it has been most helpful. Regards Sue ---- HKearsey@aol.com wrote: > Sue, > > Holy Trinity had a section of the Oxford, Osney Cemetery. Many of the > monuments have been recorded for Oxfordshire Family History Society and are > published on CD. > > Names are also available on the Oxfordshire Family History Society Search > Services. > > See: _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk) and Google Osney > Cemetery > > Hugh. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS "Wills Library" : Can you submit any wills, please? http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Wendy My sympathies, this hobby of ours is most frustrting at times! It's a fairly unusual surname, I'll keep it in mind. Kind regards Lynne ---------------------------------------- > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:31:28 +0100 > Subject: Re: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN > > Lynne > > thank you for the suggestion but as I have been doing this for some years > now I have the CDs and I have all the grandparents, aunts, uncles and > cousins on both sides. In the case of Hannah and Joseph back into the 18th > century (with good sound researched material) There is little or no > Oxfordshire stuff on the IGI. He gives Tetsworth as his birthplace - again > the CD stops before his birth date. He is a minor, but irritating sprig on > the tree and if no one connects then I will with him what I do with all such > sprigs once I have explored all the avenues = ignore 'em > > Wendy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lynne scaife > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:05 PM > To: oxfordshire list > Subject: Re: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN > > > Dear Wendy > > I've just had a little look at this for you, my sympathies, there doesn't > seem to be any IGI coverage for Lewknor at all. > > If you have the CD for baptisms, have you tried looking for the grand > parents, Joseph and Ann or Hannah, and then subsequent children? If George > Francis was born in 1863, the mother I would think would be at least 20 > years old, so I would look from 1843 backwards, which is within the range of > your CD. > > Hope this helps a little. > > Regards > Lynne > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:35:28 +0100 > > Subject: [OXF] George Francis DUNKIN > > > > > > Hi > > > > does anyone connect to George Francis DUNKIN born 1863 Lewknor and if so > > are > > you able to who his parents are please? I have the OFHS CD with Lewknor > > bmd > > but the baptisms finish at 1856. He is on the 1871 census with his > > grandparents Joseph DUNKIN and Ann or Hannah nee KING. I know that the > > other > > grandchild on the census is son of their daughter Jane as he is on a later > > census with her, but George is on his own by 1881 and not with parents at > > any stage. > > > > Wendy > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > OFHS "Wills Library" : > > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wendy Nice to hear from you. So much happened yesterday, I hardly know where to begin, but my brick wall is knocked down! Firstly, when I checked the post, the birth certificate had arrived for my great grandmother, Eliza GARDNER. No father's name mentioned, as expected, but it says her maiden name was FLETCHER. The GARDNER's I found on the 1841 were the wrong family. I made a basic error and presumed too much. I have, however, now found the correct family and here they are: H0 107/889/14, Deddington, Philcock Street: GARDNER, Mary, 30, Y GARDNER, Elizabeth, 7, Y GARDNER, Sarah, 4, Y FLETCHER, James, 1, Y GARDNER, Mary, 9, Y and right next door: FLETCHER, William, 71, Cooper, Y BETTS, Elizabeth, 60, Y FLETCHER, Elizabeth 69, Y FLETCHER, Jane, 24, Y. Elizabeth aged 7 died 10 years later, and I think must have been their first child. It looks as though Sarah is another sibling, but I can't find her birth. James Fletcher is the son of Jane Fletcher, and I don't know who the Mary aged 9 is, since it's the bottom of the list, perhaps it's a visitor/other family member. Mary FLETCHER was c. in Chipping Norton 11 06 1810. (Mary not Mary Ann according to the IGI.) I have considered the Adderbury marriage in 1830, Robert Gardner to Mary Fletcher, but I'd like to check the Chipping Norton PR's to see if there is a marriage there. So if anyone has the Chippy PR's and wouldn't mind having a look, I'd be very grateful. Howard, I've wondered all along if Mary did actually marry a GARDNER, but if she didn't, why did she and thomas WILKINS wait so long to wed. I don't suppose she would have been informed of his death, but wonder in a transportation case, whether you could remarry after a certain time lapse if no contact was received? Judy in London very kindly found the transporation details for Richard GARDNER, he was in fact transported for 7 years in 1839 to NSW and died in Sydney General Hospital the year after. He was transported for a most curious case of perjury. Many thanks Lynne ---------------------------------------- > From: wendyking37@hotmail.com > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:44:33 +0100 > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER - KEDONAUGH > > Howard & Lynne > > Mary Ann KEDONAUGH intrigued by this name so put just the last name into > family search and came up with NO hits and their phonetic suggestions were > all Germanic or Scandinavian. Similar search on ancestry again no hits - it > produced Keating variations and Keutenius (in London marriages) and the > wonderfully named 'Money Kathnasses' (her husband was a German born violin > maker). > > suspect the celebrant misheard or had his own phonetic spelling of some > other name. > > Only possibility I can come up with is Kennedy > > Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Howard Fuller > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:21 AM > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OXF] Reintroducing my interests mainly SKUCE AND GARDNER > > Hello Lynne, > > Others have offered help with SKUCE but this may help with GARD(I/E)NER. > > You say Mary Ann (surname unknown) was the mother of your > g-grandmother. You want to know who Mary Ann's parents were. > > >From the 1841 Census you deduce that her (first) marriage was to > Robert GARDNER in about 1825/26, but you can't find this marriage. > > When, as a widow, she married Thomas WILKINS in Deddington on 12 May > 1865, the register says only that her father's name is William, that > he is a cooper, but it gives no surname. > > According to her age in the 1851 and 1871 censuses, Mary Ann was born > in about 1802-5 in Chipping Norton. Eight Mary Ann's were baptised at > Chipping Norton in 1800 to 1807. Two of these had father = William: > - 1801 Apr 26 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Mary KEDONAUGH > - 1805 May 12 - Mary Ann, dau. William & Ann BUSSWELL > > Unfortunately, I can't find who Mary Ann KEDONAUGH married - if she > did. But Mary Ann BUSSWELL married Samuel ENDALL at Chipping Norton on > 18 Jul 1826. > > Pehaps Robert GARDNER and his Mary Ann didn't actually get married? > > No real progress, I'm afraid! > > Howard > > > On 10/08/2011 19:27, lynne scaife wrote: > > > > Dear List > > > > I have been absent from the list for a while, of late mainly due to PC > > problems. But I'm back! > > > > I am researching mainly SKUCE in Deddington and Charlbury, but many other > > names that married into the line. > > > > I have recently reserected a family skeleton - the curious case of Mary > > Ann and Robert GARDNER. > > Mary is the mother of my great grandmother Eliza SKUCE nee GARDNER. It's > > now most certain that the man Mary Ann married is not the father of my > > great grand mother, or any of the subsequent children, and that Robert, > > was actually transported for goodness knows what! > > > > Mary Ann was born about 1805 in Chipping Norton according to 1841 and 1851 > > and other census' of Deddington. > > > > She married 1. Robert GARDNER about 1825/26. I can not find this marriage > > from the IGI, as there are no marriages coverage. > > > > I've found them on the 1841 which shows: > > Chipping Norton, Churchill Road, H0107/879/3 > > > > Robert GARDNER, 45, Labourer, "Y" (in county) > > Mary GARDNER, 35, Y > > Ann GARDNER, 14, Y > > Robert GARDNER, 12, Y > > John GARDNER, 7, Y > > Jane GARDNER, 5, Y > > Thomas GARDNER, 3, Y > > > > And 1851 shows: > > Deddington, Philcock Street > > > > Mary GARDNER, 45, 1806, House servant, Chipping Norton > > Elizabeth GARDNER, 8, Deddington, (note this should be Eliza not > > Elizabeth, my great grandmother) > > George GARDNER, 6, Deddington > > Emma GARDNER, 4, Deddington > > Harriet GARDNER, 1, Deddington > > All living in the household of Thomas Wilkins who she later married in > > 1865! > > > >> From previous kind help, and copies of PRs and a couple of certificates, > >> I know that Robert GARDNER was transported around about 1839-41, and on > >> the PR for Eliza's birth, who was a twin with Eleanor, (Eleanor died 11 > >> weeks later), bapt. 24 02 1843 in Deddington, it states that Robert is > >> not the father of these children. It's more than likely that Thomas > >> WILKINS is the father of Eleanor and Eliza, and several subsequent > >> children all born before she married him in 1865. > > > > There are several discrepancies queries re. the above, but mainly: > > > > 1. The date of his transportation. Pam in NZ kindly helped back in 2005 > > with information that Robert GARDNER, convict no. 28130 departed > > Portsmouth 14 07 1841 (6 weeks after the 1841 census carried out on 16th > > June 1841), on the Lord Goderich bound for Tasmania. The main problem > > with this, is when Isabella GARDNER AKA Louisa was bapt. 12 06 1853, Mary > > Ann states on the registration that father was transported 1839. That's a > > 2 year discrepancy. > > > > I am in contact now with the Archives Office of Tasmania to see if I can > > get any further with his transportation. > > > > 2. I am desperate to know who Mary Ann's parents were. When she married > > Thomas WILKINS in 1865, register says her father's name is William, but > > infuriatingly, she does not give a surname, only that he is a "cooper" > > (prof.) > > > > If any one can offer me any advice, I'll gladly take it and be eternally > > grateful. > > > > Kindest regards > > Lynne Scaife > > Tenerife > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > OFHS "Wills Library" : > > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Hugh Many thanks for you reply it has been most helpful. Regards Sue ---- HKearsey@aol.com wrote: > Sue, > > Holy Trinity had a section of the Oxford, Osney Cemetery. Many of the > monuments have been recorded for Oxfordshire Family History Society and are > published on CD. > > Names are also available on the Oxfordshire Family History Society Search > Services. > > See: _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk) and Google Osney > Cemetery > > Hugh. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS "Wills Library" : > Can you submit any wills, please?http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re Taplins of Enstone. Rose WEARING, a sister of my paternal grandfather, married Arthur Percy TAPLIN. (I do not know the date or place). Rose was baptised at Enstone 9 April 1882 and was buried at Enstone 24 December 1961. Arthur was born at Enstone about 1885 and was buried at Enstone 25 November 1952. Rose and Arthur had two children (that I know of), Raymond Percy TAPLIN, born 1909, and Cyril Frederick TAPLIN, born 1911. Arthur's parents were Frederick Michael TAPLIN (born Enstone about 1859) and Mary Ann (surname unknown, who was born about 1862 in Baston Oxfordshire). That's all I know about my TAPLIN connection. Thus, no link to Charlotte that I know of. Mike in Nova Scotia, Canada

I now have the military records of George Francis - when I did a search a couple of months ago these were not on FMP but they have added more record recently, should have thought to look. These solve the mystery of his parentage and give me another marriage (his mother's) to follow up. Wendy