Thank you, Jill, for your response. I had not previously seen the reference to the Cowley Industrial School. The whole passage is extremely interesting - as indeed were your findings regarding the removal of your husband's grandfather to Bristol Industrial School. Clearly there are other avenues I can pursue regarding Thomas Yeates' time at Beckley. I have now acquired (from OFHS) a copy of "Village Education in Nineteenth-Century Oxfordshire" and this is providing some excellent background information. Regards Michael
>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, January 5, 1822; Issue 3584. OXFORDSHIRE ( To Wit. ) Whereas I, ELIZABETH HADLAND , of the parish of Marston, in the county of Oxford, widow, did most maliciously and wickedly spread evil and scandalous reports tending to injure the character and good fame of Elizabeth SIMS , of the parish of Marston aforesaid, married woman, and to lessen the affection of her husband towards her, without any truth or foundation whatever; and, upon promise of the said Elizabeth SIMS not to prosecute the said Elizabeth HADLAND , in the Spiritual Court, or by action of Common Law, she asks pardon for her offence, and faithfully promises never to offend in like manner in future. The mark X of ELIZABETH HADLAND. Witness, Joseph BLEAY , Constable of Marston.
>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, January 5, 1822; Issue 3584. Whereas we, John SPYERS and John WHARTON , of Great Haseley, in the county of Oxford, labourers, having grossly insulted the family of Mr. PARTRIDGE , of Lobb Farm, in the said parish, and raised a scandalous report of the daughter and maid-servant of the said Mr. PARTRIDGE , for which he has justly commenced a prosecution against us, but upon condition of our publicly acknowledging our faults, he has agreed to stop proceedings against us ;- Now we do hereby acknowledge that the said report is false and unfounded, and return him our thanks for the lenity shewn us. The X Mark of JOHN WHARTON. JOHN SPYERS. Witness, this 31st day of December, 1821, JOHN TERRY.
On 31/08/2011 15:41, The Quineys wrote: > Thursday 8th - Sunday 11th September is the annual Heritage Open Days 'weekend' when historic sites, buildings, etc are open to the public. > Some are open throughout the year but for this wekend only, there is no admission charge. > > For Oxfordshire details ... > > http://www.heritageopendays.org.uk/directory/county/Oxfordshire > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock > www.ofhs.org.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Christine I'm in the Oxfordshire Records Centre next Thursday the 15th Sep and will look it up for you. Best Wishes Angela In a message dated 04/09/2011 18:12:38 GMT Daylight Time, readchr13_99@yahoo.com writes: Hallo, I have a copy of the Will of my 8 x great grandmother Katherine READ of Caversham dated 16 December 1713 and Proved 21 May 1715. I obtained this copy from the Oxfordshire Record Office a few years ago, and it's only now as I am going through information to add to TNG software for my genealogy blog, that I realise that the Witness signatures were covered by a corner of the page being turned over onto them, as the copy was made! I can read one Witness signature as Tho. Brigham and can see another surname of Brigham but can't see the first name or if there are any other names shown. As I am disabled and living in Cornwall, I really can't get to Oxfordshire so wonder if anyone happens to be visiting the Record Office, if they could maybe ask to see this Will and transcribe just the Witness signatures for me please? I hope this isn't too big an ask and thank you in advance for any help with this. Kind regards, Christine Read Cornwall So That's Where I Get It From http://rootsresearcher.wordpress.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Doug, I have just looked up the List archives and see that you are interested in Henry Hinton born 1740, an Ironmonger of Oxford or were in 1999. Is Henry still on your tree? He is someone I much admire and I have details of him, if you are still interested. If you are, how do you relate please? My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug and Jane Sent: 07 September 2011 09:36 To: howard.fuller@ntlworld.com; oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] HINTON - CUDDESDON, OXF Hi Howard William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before-possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). I have William HINTON previously married to Jane COMBS 13 Feb 1862. Witnesses to the marriage were Henry Freeman and Mary Ann Combs. No reference to Elizabeth JAMES. Do you think there was a fourth marriage?? Cheers Doug Hinton -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Fuller Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:26 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] HINTON - CUDDESDON, OXF Hi Doug, On 05/09/2011 23:51, you wrote: > In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would > anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once > called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I > checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village > Street has undergone a name change. > Regards > Doug Hinton > Canberra AUST The one road through the small village of Cuddesdon is the Village Street! The description applies to many of the villages in the censuses. The same road continues downhill to the hamlet of Denton, half a mile away. You also wrote: William HINTON, born 1836 Cuddesdon OXF, married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. And you wrote this: I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married, list wife and children of that marriage. =============== Here is William HINTON and his family at Cuddesdon (in the "Village Street") in the 1881 Census (Piece 1495, Folio 36): HINTON William, HD m 44, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1836]* HINTON Mary, WI m 32, ---, WIL Patney [1848]* HINTON Emma,** DA u 22, dom.svt, OXF Cuddesden [1858]* HINTON James SO u 17, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1863]* HINTON Edward,** SO u 15, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1865]* HINTON Sarah E, DA 3, ---, OXF Denton [1877]* HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* * estimated dates of birth ** resident a few doors away with Charles JENNINGS. William HINTON (1836-1887) married Mary MAT(T)HEWS (1849-1900) in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1876 (Ref: 3a.1049). [The marriage probably took place at Cuddesdon but I don't have access to the register at the moment to check.] And here is William HINTON and a different wife and family ten years earlier in the 1871 Census of Cuddesdon (Piece 1433, Folio 38): HINTON William, HD m 34, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1836] HINTON Ann, WI m 44, ---, OXF Cuddesdon [1826] HINTON Emma, DA 12, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1858] HINTON James, SO 7, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1863] HINTON Elizabeth, DA 5, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1865] YOUNG William H, SL u 22, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1848] YOUNG Walter, SL u 17, shepherd, OXF Cuddesdon [1853] YOUNG Charles, SL 13, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1857] YOUNG Minnie, DL 9, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1861] YOUNG Lewis, SL 6, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1864] [SL/DL = son/dau in law = step son/dau] William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before. Emma (12), James (7) and Elizabeth (5) were from William's first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). And the five YOUNGs were the children of Ann's first marriage. The 1851 Census of Cuddesdon & Denton (Piece 1727, Folio 22) goes some way to confirm that: YOUNG William, HD m 32, labourer, OXF Denton [1818] YOUNG Ann, WI m 26, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1824] YOUNG William, SO 2, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1848] [I do not have access to the 1861 Census at the moment.] William YOUNG's death (probably in Cuddesdon) was registered in the Headington Registration District in the Apr-Jun Quarter of 1864 (Ref: 3a.362). I hope to be able to access more records in a couple of weeks time to confirm some of the missing entries. Regards, Howard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Howard William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before-possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). I have William HINTON previously married to Jane COMBS 13 Feb 1862. Witnesses to the marriage were Henry Freeman and Mary Ann Combs. No reference to Elizabeth JAMES. Do you think there was a fourth marriage?? Cheers Doug Hinton -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Fuller Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:26 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] HINTON - CUDDESDON, OXF Hi Doug, On 05/09/2011 23:51, you wrote: > In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would > anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once > called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I > checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village > Street has undergone a name change. > Regards > Doug Hinton > Canberra AUST The one road through the small village of Cuddesdon is the Village Street! The description applies to many of the villages in the censuses. The same road continues downhill to the hamlet of Denton, half a mile away. You also wrote: William HINTON, born 1836 Cuddesdon OXF, married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. And you wrote this: I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married, list wife and children of that marriage. =============== Here is William HINTON and his family at Cuddesdon (in the "Village Street") in the 1881 Census (Piece 1495, Folio 36): HINTON William, HD m 44, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1836]* HINTON Mary, WI m 32, ---, WIL Patney [1848]* HINTON Emma,** DA u 22, dom.svt, OXF Cuddesden [1858]* HINTON James SO u 17, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1863]* HINTON Edward,** SO u 15, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1865]* HINTON Sarah E, DA 3, ---, OXF Denton [1877]* HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* * estimated dates of birth ** resident a few doors away with Charles JENNINGS. William HINTON (1836-1887) married Mary MAT(T)HEWS (1849-1900) in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1876 (Ref: 3a.1049). [The marriage probably took place at Cuddesdon but I don't have access to the register at the moment to check.] And here is William HINTON and a different wife and family ten years earlier in the 1871 Census of Cuddesdon (Piece 1433, Folio 38): HINTON William, HD m 34, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1836] HINTON Ann, WI m 44, ---, OXF Cuddesdon [1826] HINTON Emma, DA 12, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1858] HINTON James, SO 7, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1863] HINTON Elizabeth, DA 5, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1865] YOUNG William H, SL u 22, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1848] YOUNG Walter, SL u 17, shepherd, OXF Cuddesdon [1853] YOUNG Charles, SL 13, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1857] YOUNG Minnie, DL 9, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1861] YOUNG Lewis, SL 6, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1864] [SL/DL = son/dau in law = step son/dau] William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before. Emma (12), James (7) and Elizabeth (5) were from William's first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). And the five YOUNGs were the children of Ann's first marriage. The 1851 Census of Cuddesdon & Denton (Piece 1727, Folio 22) goes some way to confirm that: YOUNG William, HD m 32, labourer, OXF Denton [1818] YOUNG Ann, WI m 26, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1824] YOUNG William, SO 2, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1848] [I do not have access to the 1861 Census at the moment.] William YOUNG's death (probably in Cuddesdon) was registered in the Headington Registration District in the Apr-Jun Quarter of 1864 (Ref: 3a.362). I hope to be able to access more records in a couple of weeks time to confirm some of the missing entries. Regards, Howard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Howard William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). I have William YOUNG marrying Anne STONE on 15 Sept 1845. Later she marries William HINTON on 1 March 1870 as Ann YOUNG (nee STONE) as per the above ref. Cheers Doug Hinton -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Fuller Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:26 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] HINTON - CUDDESDON, OXF Hi Doug, On 05/09/2011 23:51, you wrote: > In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would > anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once > called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I > checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village > Street has undergone a name change. > Regards > Doug Hinton > Canberra AUST The one road through the small village of Cuddesdon is the Village Street! The description applies to many of the villages in the censuses. The same road continues downhill to the hamlet of Denton, half a mile away. You also wrote: William HINTON, born 1836 Cuddesdon OXF, married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. And you wrote this: I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married, list wife and children of that marriage. =============== Here is William HINTON and his family at Cuddesdon (in the "Village Street") in the 1881 Census (Piece 1495, Folio 36): HINTON William, HD m 44, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1836]* HINTON Mary, WI m 32, ---, WIL Patney [1848]* HINTON Emma,** DA u 22, dom.svt, OXF Cuddesden [1858]* HINTON James SO u 17, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1863]* HINTON Edward,** SO u 15, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1865]* HINTON Sarah E, DA 3, ---, OXF Denton [1877]* HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* * estimated dates of birth ** resident a few doors away with Charles JENNINGS. William HINTON (1836-1887) married Mary MAT(T)HEWS (1849-1900) in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1876 (Ref: 3a.1049). [The marriage probably took place at Cuddesdon but I don't have access to the register at the moment to check.] And here is William HINTON and a different wife and family ten years earlier in the 1871 Census of Cuddesdon (Piece 1433, Folio 38): HINTON William, HD m 34, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1836] HINTON Ann, WI m 44, ---, OXF Cuddesdon [1826] HINTON Emma, DA 12, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1858] HINTON James, SO 7, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1863] HINTON Elizabeth, DA 5, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1865] YOUNG William H, SL u 22, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1848] YOUNG Walter, SL u 17, shepherd, OXF Cuddesdon [1853] YOUNG Charles, SL 13, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1857] YOUNG Minnie, DL 9, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1861] YOUNG Lewis, SL 6, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1864] [SL/DL = son/dau in law = step son/dau] William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before. Emma (12), James (7) and Elizabeth (5) were from William's first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). And the five YOUNGs were the children of Ann's first marriage. The 1851 Census of Cuddesdon & Denton (Piece 1727, Folio 22) goes some way to confirm that: YOUNG William, HD m 32, labourer, OXF Denton [1818] YOUNG Ann, WI m 26, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1824] YOUNG William, SO 2, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1848] [I do not have access to the 1861 Census at the moment.] William YOUNG's death (probably in Cuddesdon) was registered in the Headington Registration District in the Apr-Jun Quarter of 1864 (Ref: 3a.362). I hope to be able to access more records in a couple of weeks time to confirm some of the missing entries. Regards, Howard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Howard Thanks for the information. I'm looking for information on: HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* William and Mary Mathews' son William John HINTON born 1879.Kind Regards Doug Hinton Canberra AUST -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Fuller Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:26 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] HINTON - CUDDESDON, OXF Hi Doug, On 05/09/2011 23:51, you wrote: > In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would > anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once > called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I > checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village > Street has undergone a name change. > Regards > Doug Hinton > Canberra AUST The one road through the small village of Cuddesdon is the Village Street! The description applies to many of the villages in the censuses. The same road continues downhill to the hamlet of Denton, half a mile away. You also wrote: William HINTON, born 1836 Cuddesdon OXF, married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. And you wrote this: I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married, list wife and children of that marriage. =============== Here is William HINTON and his family at Cuddesdon (in the "Village Street") in the 1881 Census (Piece 1495, Folio 36): HINTON William, HD m 44, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1836]* HINTON Mary, WI m 32, ---, WIL Patney [1848]* HINTON Emma,** DA u 22, dom.svt, OXF Cuddesden [1858]* HINTON James SO u 17, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1863]* HINTON Edward,** SO u 15, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1865]* HINTON Sarah E, DA 3, ---, OXF Denton [1877]* HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* * estimated dates of birth ** resident a few doors away with Charles JENNINGS. William HINTON (1836-1887) married Mary MAT(T)HEWS (1849-1900) in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1876 (Ref: 3a.1049). [The marriage probably took place at Cuddesdon but I don't have access to the register at the moment to check.] And here is William HINTON and a different wife and family ten years earlier in the 1871 Census of Cuddesdon (Piece 1433, Folio 38): HINTON William, HD m 34, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1836] HINTON Ann, WI m 44, ---, OXF Cuddesdon [1826] HINTON Emma, DA 12, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1858] HINTON James, SO 7, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1863] HINTON Elizabeth, DA 5, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1865] YOUNG William H, SL u 22, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1848] YOUNG Walter, SL u 17, shepherd, OXF Cuddesdon [1853] YOUNG Charles, SL 13, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1857] YOUNG Minnie, DL 9, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1861] YOUNG Lewis, SL 6, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1864] [SL/DL = son/dau in law = step son/dau] William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before. Emma (12), James (7) and Elizabeth (5) were from William's first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). And the five YOUNGs were the children of Ann's first marriage. The 1851 Census of Cuddesdon & Denton (Piece 1727, Folio 22) goes some way to confirm that: YOUNG William, HD m 32, labourer, OXF Denton [1818] YOUNG Ann, WI m 26, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1824] YOUNG William, SO 2, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1848] [I do not have access to the 1861 Census at the moment.] William YOUNG's death (probably in Cuddesdon) was registered in the Headington Registration District in the Apr-Jun Quarter of 1864 (Ref: 3a.362). I hope to be able to access more records in a couple of weeks time to confirm some of the missing entries. Regards, Howard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Howard - I was probably having a boy look at the Census. -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Fuller Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:26 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] HINTON - CUDDESDON, OXF Hi Doug, On 05/09/2011 23:51, you wrote: > In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would > anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once > called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I > checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village > Street has undergone a name change. > Regards > Doug Hinton > Canberra AUST The one road through the small village of Cuddesdon is the Village Street! The description applies to many of the villages in the censuses. The same road continues downhill to the hamlet of Denton, half a mile away. You also wrote: William HINTON, born 1836 Cuddesdon OXF, married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. And you wrote this: I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married, list wife and children of that marriage. =============== Here is William HINTON and his family at Cuddesdon (in the "Village Street") in the 1881 Census (Piece 1495, Folio 36): HINTON William, HD m 44, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1836]* HINTON Mary, WI m 32, ---, WIL Patney [1848]* HINTON Emma,** DA u 22, dom.svt, OXF Cuddesden [1858]* HINTON James SO u 17, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1863]* HINTON Edward,** SO u 15, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1865]* HINTON Sarah E, DA 3, ---, OXF Denton [1877]* HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* * estimated dates of birth ** resident a few doors away with Charles JENNINGS. William HINTON (1836-1887) married Mary MAT(T)HEWS (1849-1900) in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1876 (Ref: 3a.1049). [The marriage probably took place at Cuddesdon but I don't have access to the register at the moment to check.] And here is William HINTON and a different wife and family ten years earlier in the 1871 Census of Cuddesdon (Piece 1433, Folio 38): HINTON William, HD m 34, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1836] HINTON Ann, WI m 44, ---, OXF Cuddesdon [1826] HINTON Emma, DA 12, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1858] HINTON James, SO 7, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1863] HINTON Elizabeth, DA 5, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1865] YOUNG William H, SL u 22, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1848] YOUNG Walter, SL u 17, shepherd, OXF Cuddesdon [1853] YOUNG Charles, SL 13, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1857] YOUNG Minnie, DL 9, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1861] YOUNG Lewis, SL 6, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1864] [SL/DL = son/dau in law = step son/dau] William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before. Emma (12), James (7) and Elizabeth (5) were from William's first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). And the five YOUNGs were the children of Ann's first marriage. The 1851 Census of Cuddesdon & Denton (Piece 1727, Folio 22) goes some way to confirm that: YOUNG William, HD m 32, labourer, OXF Denton [1818] YOUNG Ann, WI m 26, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1824] YOUNG William, SO 2, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1848] [I do not have access to the 1861 Census at the moment.] William YOUNG's death (probably in Cuddesdon) was registered in the Headington Registration District in the Apr-Jun Quarter of 1864 (Ref: 3a.362). I hope to be able to access more records in a couple of weeks time to confirm some of the missing entries. Regards, Howard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My thanks to all who have contributed to my request for help with Emily. Much appreciated Elizabeth
Hi Doug, On 05/09/2011 23:51, you wrote: > In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would > anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once > called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I > checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village > Street has undergone a name change. > Regards > Doug Hinton > Canberra AUST The one road through the small village of Cuddesdon is the Village Street! The description applies to many of the villages in the censuses. The same road continues downhill to the hamlet of Denton, half a mile away. You also wrote: William HINTON, born 1836 Cuddesdon OXF, married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. And you wrote this: I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married, list wife and children of that marriage. =============== Here is William HINTON and his family at Cuddesdon (in the "Village Street") in the 1881 Census (Piece 1495, Folio 36): HINTON William, HD m 44, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1836]* HINTON Mary, WI m 32, ---, WIL Patney [1848]* HINTON Emma,** DA u 22, dom.svt, OXF Cuddesden [1858]* HINTON James SO u 17, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1863]* HINTON Edward,** SO u 15, ag.lab, OXF Cuddesden [1865]* HINTON Sarah E, DA 3, ---, OXF Denton [1877]* HINTON William J, SO 1, ---, OXF Denton [1879]* * estimated dates of birth ** resident a few doors away with Charles JENNINGS. William HINTON (1836-1887) married Mary MAT(T)HEWS (1849-1900) in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1876 (Ref: 3a.1049). [The marriage probably took place at Cuddesdon but I don't have access to the register at the moment to check.] And here is William HINTON and a different wife and family ten years earlier in the 1871 Census of Cuddesdon (Piece 1433, Folio 38): HINTON William, HD m 34, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1836] HINTON Ann, WI m 44, ---, OXF Cuddesdon [1826] HINTON Emma, DA 12, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1858] HINTON James, SO 7, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1863] HINTON Elizabeth, DA 5, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1865] YOUNG William H, SL u 22, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1848] YOUNG Walter, SL u 17, shepherd, OXF Cuddesdon [1853] YOUNG Charles, SL 13, labourer, OXF Cuddesdon [1857] YOUNG Minnie, DL 9, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1861] YOUNG Lewis, SL 6, scholar, OXF Cuddesdon [1864] [SL/DL = son/dau in law = step son/dau] William HINTON married Ann YOUNG in the Headington Registration District (which includes Cuddesdon) in Jan-Mar 1870 (Ref: 3b.652b). William HINTON and Ann HINTON had evidently both been married before. Emma (12), James (7) and Elizabeth (5) were from William's first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth JAMES in the Headington Registration District in the Oct-Dec Quarter of 1854 (Ref: 3a.901). And the five YOUNGs were the children of Ann's first marriage. The 1851 Census of Cuddesdon & Denton (Piece 1727, Folio 22) goes some way to confirm that: YOUNG William, HD m 32, labourer, OXF Denton [1818] YOUNG Ann, WI m 26, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1824] YOUNG William, SO 2, ---, OXF Cuddesden [1848] [I do not have access to the 1861 Census at the moment.] William YOUNG's death (probably in Cuddesdon) was registered in the Headington Registration District in the Apr-Jun Quarter of 1864 (Ref: 3a.362). I hope to be able to access more records in a couple of weeks time to confirm some of the missing entries. Regards, Howard
Thanks Wendy -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wendy King Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 4:34 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] VILLAGE STREET CUDDESDON,OXF Hi Doug until the late 19th century many places did not have formal street names - Village or Village Street is usually the main road through a village. Census takers tended to use literal descriptions - on the 1891 census Cuddesdon has Brook Lane, The Lane (which may be Village Street in previous census and does still exist) and the Row as specific street descriptions with many of the entries having no street name at all. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Doug and Jane Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:51 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] VILLAGE STREET CUDDESDON,OXF Hi All In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village Street has undergone a name change. Regards Doug Hinton Canberra AUST ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Michael, You may have seen this website With information of Cowley Industrial School http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=101882 >From which I quote: There was no education provided for poor-law children until 1831, when an industrial school was opened on a site near the present Cowley works. The regulations for its government issued in 1854 by the Poor Law Board reveal something of the rigour and austerity of the reformed poor law. The children were segregated into three classes, girls and boys over seven and infants under seven, between whom all communication was forbidden. They received eighteen hours' instruction a week in reading, writing, arithmetic, and religion, as well as some training in agriculture, industry, or housework. More.......... ====== My husband's grandfather was sent to Bristol Industrial school. After research the only reason given was that he had missed school on various occasions. This 12 year old boy was sent from Derby to Bristol - miles and miles away for such 'offence'. He was there until he was aged 16 years. I cannot imagine that his family would have been able to visit him, so many miles away. Compulsory education to age 10 was established in some areas from 1870, and in all areas from 1880, but enforcement was patchy. He had obviously started school in 1880 after the Education Act August 1880 and as the 'enforcement' obviously didn't work it may have been that the Derby authorities wished to make an example of him. We used his family's place of residence in 1881 to track down his likely school and then looked up the Attendance Register for that school in the Derby Record Office. This is where we found the reason for his removal from Derby to Bristol. We had searched newspapers as Eve suggested but unfortunately this time, we didn't come across anything that helped us. If Eve has anything to add to my story, and where we may look further, I would be really pleased to hear, as I fee that we haven't quite got to the bottom of this yet. Sometimes these children were sent by magistrates to industrial schools and I wonder if we should take this route? Sorry Michael, I am going off your original query to my own! ;-)) My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bfc712@aol.com Sent: 06 September 2011 12:51 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] Beckley Industrial School Can anyone provide information regarding the Beckley Industrial School, Oxon, please. My great grandfather Thomas Yeates (born Benson 1849) appears in the 1861 Census as a boarder/ scholar at the Beckley Industrial School. I understand that generally Industrial Schools were established by the 1857 Industrial Schools Act for "the care and education of vagrant, destitute or disorderly children". I do not believe Thomas fitted into any of these categories or if he did, he clearly benefited considerably from the experience, since he later became for 40 years the headmaster at Sutton Courteney School, Berks. It would appear there are records for Beckley school from 1863 but I have so far been unable to find anything about the Industrial School. Any information would be much apprectaied. Michael Kempson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> > I understand that generally Industrial Schools were established by the > 1857 Industrial Schools Act for "the care and education of vagrant, destitute > or disorderly children". I do not believe Thomas fitted into any of these > categories It was usually the case that only children likely to benefit were selected for these schools. Mostly they were adrift through nio fault of their own, but were orphans with no family to turn to, or put on the streets because their parents drank or were feckless. Often the court rescued the child from a bad situiation, when they were either begging or stealing food to stay alive, not hardened criminals or part of an irrecoverable underclass. or if he did, he clearly benefited considerably from the > experience, since he later became for 40 years the headmaster at Sutton Courteney Well, you can be really proud, for he was obviously intelligent and prepared to work. So the school gave him a start he might never have had with his birth family. It is worth trying newspapers, since most public institutions at some stage had a report published. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society
Hi All I'm looking for a Death and Marriage for William HINTON, bap 1879, Denton, Oxf, father William HINTON (1836-1887), mother Mary MATHEWS born Patney (1849-1900). If William (1879) married list wife and children of that marriage. Kind Regards Doug Hinton Canberra AUST
Hi All William HINTON born 1836 Cuddesdon,OXF married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. Kind Regards Doug Hinton Canberra AUST
Hi All In the 1881 Census there is a reference to Village Street, Cuddesdon. Would anyone with local knowledge please advise if today's High Street was once called Village Street. If not, where in Cuddesdon is Village Street. I checked Google Earth and it does not show up which makes me think Village Street has undergone a name change. Regards Doug Hinton Canberra AUST
Thanks Nick -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cox_family Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 4:54 AM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Emily CLINCH Dear Doug, I can confirm that Elizabeth CLINCH was bap 11/11/1715, at Bampton, and that her father was named John but unfortunately I do not have the Bicester marriage records! Regards, Nick -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug and Jane Sent: 05 September 2011 02:05 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Emily CLINCH Hi Nick Could you confirm that Elizabeth CLINCH bap 11/11/1715, Bampton married Richard HINTON bap 26/4/1715 Curbidge married on 9 July 1738 at Hardwick by Bicester. Regards Doug Hinton Canberra -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cox_family Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011 2:43 AM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Emily CLINCH I have the PDF records for Bampton including Aston and she is not listed there - nor on familysearch.org. You may need to check the original records! Good luck, Nick Cox -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Adams Sent: 04 September 2011 15:14 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] Emily CLINCH In the census Emily gives her place of birth as Aston. She is registered in the 1st Q 1850 on FreeBMD I have the Aston Bampton transcriptions on fiche but Page 4 is missing (P 3 ends with Dec 1848 and 5 starts with mid 1851) I would like to be sure of her parents-possibly a father Joseph, can anyone help please ? Elizabeth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Doug A quick search of the 1881 index should have given you William and his second wife Mary - try doing the search on Ancestry.co.uk. You can trace him all the way back to 1841 - though his date of birth varies from 1834 to 1837 he is the only William HINTON of that age in the village. If you want to do this then you can either buy credits at www.findmypast.co.uk or take out a monthly membership for ancestry.co.uk (easy to do and easy to cancel) Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Doug and Jane Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 1:51 AM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] WILLIAM HINTON OF CUDDESDON Hi All William HINTON born 1836 Cuddesdon,OXF married Ann STONE on 1 March 1870, Cuddesdon. Ann died in 1873 while William died in 1887 at Denton and buried on 24 March 1887 in Cuddesdon. A quick check of the 1881 Census did not show William. If anyone has access to the 1871 Census could they do a lookup pls. Kind Regards Doug Hinton Canberra AUST ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message