Thank you all very much - Jennifer (& sister!), Wendy and Margo for your thoughts. I should have thought of the 'p' as an abbreviation for per or par - I have seen p[ar]ish and p[er]fect so many times in wills. I suppose these old conventions have stuck (although it is a novelty for me to see them used for writing a surname). Yes, I accept that something like "Parson" is the best interpretation - I was tempted by "Perynn" except that the second letter doesn't resemble the other slanty y's on the page. I have figured out the place name by typing some guesses into google (with a + sign, so it looks for exact matches only). It is Dorkcestr (= Dorchester); there is a very similar rendering of the name at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/CP25%281%29/CP25%281%29191Oxon/IMG_0438.htm Regards, Kevin. (happy not to have yet another group of early Pymmes to worry about!)

Kevin - > This might be a rather strange request, but I was hoping someone might be > able to help me decipher a name from this manorial document (28 Edw III). > It's just a bonus miscellaneous item I copied while at Kew because I'm > always on the lookout for the earliest mentions of Pym/Pymme in Oxon. > > http://i56.tinypic.com/2h2nllc.jpg > > I've marked next to a couple of names that look, superficially at least, > like Pym (John and ???). Although the P appears to have a mark which > possibly means it's an abbreviation? I can't figure out the placename > either - presumably it's somewhere near Drayton and Chiselhampton which > are > also mentioned. This is posted for Margo Mckinstry McKinstryMJ (at) familysearch.org: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kevin, I asked one of our resident document readers here in British Reference at the Family History Library and this is her interpretation (She has been doing this for 30 years.) She believes that the name in both places is P.sun which would mean they have done a short version of names like Parson or Pearson. The place she assumed you wanted was the one at the top of the page as she could read the others as Drayton & Chisselhampton. She thinks it is Stoke. something. However, in looking for that kind of place around Drayton & Chisselhampton, she couldn't find anything that matched. Could it be the name of a manor, estate, hill etc.? Hope that helps. Margo - SLC

Thank you Malcom. I did get there eventually but I found it odd that it wasn't obviously accessible through the page I arrived on after googling "Oxfordshire History Centre". cheers, Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Austen" <malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [OXF] catalogue at Oxfordshire History Centre > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:16:32 +0100, Stephanie Lever <salever1@rogers.com> > wrote: > >> I was looking at the website for the Oxfordshire History Centre and >> wanting to consult the catalogue or a list of resources. I was sure I >> had done this previously when it was the ORO, but now I can't find >> online access to seaching the catalogue or descriptions of the resources. >> Can anyone guide me there? Is it no longer available? > > The County Council changed their web site a day or two ago and I certainly > don't yet know my way around it. What you want is called 'Heritage Search' > and the link from the OFHS web site to > <URL:http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heritagesearch> still works. > > = Malcolm. > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > >

All The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 26 September 2011 at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for coffee, help with both genealogy and computers, and the bookstall, exchange journals and the library. The subject of the talk is "Tracing Your West Indian Ancestry", which will be presented by Guy Grannum. We will hear Guy given an overview of research possibilities in the Caribbean, with particular emphasis on how a beginner can get started. Our speaker Guy Grannum is a senior employee at The National Archives, who has extensive experience of researching his own Caribbean roots. Author of The National Archives Readers' Guide "Tracing Your West Indian Ancestors", Guy has his own website "Caribbean Roots" and can also be followed on Twitter as @Caribbeanroots. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html Any queries, please contact me. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk

Going off at a tangent, if anyone can help re the family of an Elizabeth Britnell, born ca 1820, d of John, in the Radnage area, I'd be grateful. (She is/was the 3x g grandmother of a friend I've been helping.) Thanks for any guidance, John -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eve@varneys.org.uk Sent: 23 September 2011 13:45 To: Mary Anne Britnell; oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Book of Norman names > > Hi, just to let you know, there is a Book of Norman names written in 1898, sorry, can't remember the author's name it was sometime ago that I read it. Got it at the library here. > I found BRUDENALL, the origin of BRITNELL. An interesting read. Yes, you can see this developing through Brutenall, Britenall, Betenell, to Britnell. There was a gentry family of the name in Bucks (offshoot of the Northants ones) who had to sell off their lands (gambling and fast women, I think) , but produced a lot of offspring who were absorbed into the population, as farmers, carpenters, and ag labs. They were thick on the ground in the Bledlow, Bucks area, spreading into Chinnor (oxon) along the main road. EVE > > Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > Hi, just to let you know, there is a Book of Norman names written in 1898, sorry, can't remember the author's name it was sometime ago that I read it. Got it at the library here. > I found BRUDENALL, the origin of BRITNELL. An interesting read. Yes, you can see this developing through Brutenall, Britenall, Betenell, to Britnell. There was a gentry family of the name in Bucks (offshoot of the Northants ones) who had to sell off their lands (gambling and fast women, I think) , but produced a lot of offspring who were absorbed into the population, as farmers, carpenters, and ag labs. They were thick on the ground in the Bledlow, Bucks area, spreading into Chinnor (oxon) along the main road. EVE > > Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi again Just to say thank you to all who replied .I appreciate your suggestions and your interest. The marriage or banns were recorded in the Oxfordshire Archdeacon's Marriage Bond .The year was 1680. I presumed that Rotherfield Peppard was the place of marriage but Jean Hodges has informed me that that was where John came from not where the marriage took place. I have a copy of the marriage index for Shiplake (another village where the Jemmetts dwelled) ,but no luck there either. I have answered Jean's emails off line . Once again , many thanks Buddug Hollett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Betteridge" <pbetteridge@pobox.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [OXF] todmartin/tadmorton? > Dear Buddug, > >> I have a bit of a problem regarding an Ann Todmartin who married John >> Jemmett in Rotherfield Peppard in the 1600's . > > "In the 1600s" seems quite a range. Do you mean 1600-1609? Your message > to the Berkshire list says "mid 1600s", so I suppose not. > > But more significantly, I cannot see anything in the Oxfordshire FHS > transcript of the Rotherfield Peppard register which seems to resemble > this. Is this a possible error that should be checked? > >> ... >> Before I investigate in Bucks and Berks ,I wonder if any lister >> knows if there were any Todmartins /Tadmortons in the Rotherfield >> area or in Oxfordshire in the 1600's > > Without an claim to complehensiveness, or any confidence that it suits > the time you are interested in, it's worth mentioning that an Anne > TODMARTIN daughter of Richard was baptised at Henley on 11 May 1600; > however, she appears to have been buried on 30 September 1605. > > There are another 4 children of Richard baptised up to 1613, when > Richard's wife Joan was buried. > > As well as the IGI, have you considered using the Oxfordshire FHS search > services to look for this name? > > http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ > > Best wishes > > Paul > > -- > Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire > pbetteridge@pobox.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock > www.ofhs.org.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Buddug, > I have a bit of a problem regarding an Ann Todmartin who married John > Jemmett in Rotherfield Peppard in the 1600's . "In the 1600s" seems quite a range. Do you mean 1600-1609? Your message to the Berkshire list says "mid 1600s", so I suppose not. But more significantly, I cannot see anything in the Oxfordshire FHS transcript of the Rotherfield Peppard register which seems to resemble this. Is this a possible error that should be checked? > ... > Before I investigate in Bucks and Berks ,I wonder if any lister > knows if there were any Todmartins /Tadmortons in the Rotherfield > area or in Oxfordshire in the 1600's Without an claim to complehensiveness, or any confidence that it suits the time you are interested in, it's worth mentioning that an Anne TODMARTIN daughter of Richard was baptised at Henley on 11 May 1600; however, she appears to have been buried on 30 September 1605. There are another 4 children of Richard baptised up to 1613, when Richard's wife Joan was buried. As well as the IGI, have you considered using the Oxfordshire FHS search services to look for this name? http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Buddug Hollett wrote: > I have a bit of a problem regarding an Ann Todmartin who married > John Jemmett in Rotherfield Peppard in the 1600's . I can't find a > birth record for her but in the IGI'S there were a few Tadmorten's > recorded in North Morton, Berks and 2 marriages in High Wycombe for > Thomas and Richard Todmartin around the time of her birth but no > record of an Ann . > Before I investigate in Bucks and Berks ,I wonder if any lister > knows if there were any Todmartins /Tadmortons in the Rotherfield > area or in Oxfordshire in the 1600's I can't answer that question, but it seems possible that they originated from OXF Tadmarton, SW of Banbury. The Tadmarton PRs go back to 1548. Someone may be able to have a look :-) DaveB

Thank you Wendy. The link worked. regards, Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy King" <wendyking37@hotmail.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [OXF] catalogue at Oxfordshire History Centre > www.oxfordshire.gov.uk-heritagesearch > > If this doesn't work go to www.ofhs.org.uk and use the Heritage link at > the bottom of the home page > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephanie Lever > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:16 PM > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OXF] catalogue at Oxfordshire History Centre > > Hello, > > I was looking at the website for the Oxfordshire History Centre and > wanting to consult the catalogue or a list of resources. I was sure I had > done this previously when it was the ORO, but now I can't find online > access to seaching the catalogue or descriptions of the resources. > Can anyone guide me there? Is it no longer available? > > Regards, > Stephanie Lever > Toronto, Canada > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock > www.ofhs.org.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I gave this to my sister who "did a course", this is her reply. "After 2 terms of learning and 3 months off for the summer. I think the name place begins with an S, cann't quite see the second letter, possibly the 3rd is a K or L, CEST{E}R but cannot see anything like that. the mark before Joh{annes} is a bullet point the P with a stroke across the stem is abbreviation of per or par which means by or through PIM 1 something 6 pennies (d) the 2nd name is posd per Pimm 1 something 6 pennies (d) sounds very funny but I have some the same amongst my notes but cannot find the translation!! let me jknow the answer" On 20 September 2011 12:47, pymme family <pymme.family@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > This might be a rather strange request, but I was hoping someone might be > able to help me decipher a name from this manorial document (28 Edw III). > It's just a bonus miscellaneous item I copied while at Kew because I'm > always on the lookout for the earliest mentions of Pym/Pymme in Oxon. > > http://i56.tinypic.com/2h2nllc.jpg > > I've marked next to a couple of names that look, superficially at least, > like Pym (John and ???). Although the P appears to have a mark which > possibly means it's an abbreviation? I can't figure out the placename > either - presumably it's somewhere near Drayton and Chiselhampton which are > also mentioned. > > Many thanks, > > Kevin. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock > www.ofhs.org.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This was found online... Sixteenth Century Norman Names by Cateline de la Mor (Triste Elliot, souriete@yahoo.com) © 1998 by Triste Elliot; all rights reserved. Introduction The following names are from Jonathan Dewald, The Formation of a Provincial Nobility: The Magistrates of the Parlement of Rouen, 1499-1610 (Princeton University Press, 1980). The names, therefore, are names from a fairly prominent level in society. Surnames appear to be hereditary by this point in Normandy. Most of the people listed in the book have a single given name and a single surname, but one woman and a few men have two given names, and a few men appear to have two surnames. I have followed the author of the book in my capitalization and alphabetization of the surnames; I am not certain that it follows 16th century Norman practice. That the author preserved variations in the spelling of given names is a point to give hope. Feminine Given Names Masculine Given Names Surnames Feminine Given Names Anne Anthoinette Barbe Catherine Charlotte Claude Diane Fleurie Florence Florymonde Françoise Geneviève Hélène Isabeau Isabel Jacquelle Jeanne Katherine Laurente Louise Lucque Madallaine Madeleine Marguerite Margueritte Maria Marthe Rachel Suzanne Victoire Masculine Given Names Adrian Adrien Alexandre Alfonce André Anthoine Artus Auguinare Baptiste Barthélémy Bernard Blaise Charles Claude Constant Danyel David Denis Emery Emory Estienne Etienne Étienne François Gabriel Gallien Gentian Georges Gilles Guillaume Herculles Hugues Isaac Isembart Jacques Jean Jerome Julien Laurens Laurent Louis Marc Marin Martin Nicole Noel Pierre Pomponne Quentin Raoul René Robert Romain Simon Thomas Vincent Surnames d'Albert d'Amboise d'Ambray Anzeray d'Arques Asselin d'Athenous Auber Aubert Auffrye Auvray Bailleul Baro Basnage Baudry Baujot Bauldry Bauquemare Becdelièvre de Bellehache de Bellemare de Bellièvre Benoist Bernard de Bethencourt Bigot Blancbaston de Blays Boisivon Boislevesque Boivin Bonenffant Bonshoms Bordel Bouchard de Bourgueville Bretel Brèvedent Brinon Burguet Busquent de Cahaihnes Caillot de Calmesnil Caradas de Caulmont Cavelier Centsols Challenge de Challon Charles de Chefderue de Civille de Cormeilles de Courseilles de Croismare Damours Deschamps Desmares Destain Droullin Dubosc Du Buisson Dufay Dufour Du Gouey Duhamel Durjardin Dumont Du Moucel Du Perron Duquesne Durerie Du Thuict Duval Dyel Erquemboure Eude de Faicterau Faucon De Felius Feu De Fry Garin Gillain Godart Godefroy Gomboult Gouel de Grieu Grimoult Grouchet Groulart Guéribout Guiffart Guyot Hallé Halley de Hanivel de Hattes Hédiart Heuzé Hue Isobel Jubert Labbé de La Champagne de La Hay Lallement de La Mare de Lampérière de La Noue de La Place de La Porte de La Reue de La Roche La Vache Le Barge Le Blanc Le Chandelier Le Clerc Le Conte Le Cordier Le Cornu Le Doulcet Lefebvre Le Goix Le Grant Le Gras Le Jumel Le Lieur Le Maistre Le Marchant Le Marinier Le Masson Le Paulmier Le Pelletier Le Pesant Le Prévost Le Roux Le Seigneur Le Sueur Le Tellier La Verrier Lhuillier de Lombelon de Lorraine Louet Louis Maignart de Malhortye Margas Mariage de Maromme Martel Maynet Mesnage de Mesniel de Mesnildo de Monchy de Montgomery de Monluc de Montchrestien de Montfault de Moustiers de Moy Mustel d'O Olivier Osmont Paixdecoeur Papon de Pardieu Pasquier Paschal Patris Péricard Petremol de Pinchemont Pippery Pithou Postel Puchot Quesnel Quièvremont Quincarnon Raoullin Rassent de Recusson de Rely Restault Rivière Rocque Roger Romé de Roncherolles Roussel Ruiz de Saussay Séguier de Seguzzo de Servian de Seyssel Taillepied Theroulde Thibault Thiboust Thomas Thorel Tirel Tourmente Tournebulle Toustain Tulles de Valles de Vandes Vastel de Viuepont de Villy Voisin de Vymont Ygou Edited from the article in the Trimaran Known World Heraldic Symposium, AS XXIX and published by Arval Benicoeur A typo was found and corrected 8 September 1998 Janet WHITE (researching WOODMAN, PUGH, MALTBY) > > > Hi, just to let you know, there is a Book of Norman names written in 1898, > sorry, can't remember the author's name it was sometime ago that I read > it. Got it at the library here. > I found BRUDENALL, the origin of BRITNELL. An interesting read. > >

Hi I have a bit of a problem regarding an Ann Todmartin who married John Jemmett in Rotherfield Peppard in the 1600's . I can't find a birth record for her but in the IGI'S there were a few Tadmorten's recorded in North Morton, Berks and 2 marriages in High Wycombe for Thomas and Richard Todmartin around the time of her birth but no record of an Ann . Before I investigate in Bucks and Berks ,I wonder if any lister knows if there were any Todmartins /Tadmortons in the Rotherfield area or in Oxfordshire in the 1600's Thanks Buddug Hollett

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:16:32 +0100, Stephanie Lever <salever1@rogers.com> wrote: > I was looking at the website for the Oxfordshire History Centre and > wanting to consult the catalogue or a list of resources. I was sure I > had done this previously when it was the ORO, but now I can't find > online access to seaching the catalogue or descriptions of the resources. > Can anyone guide me there? Is it no longer available? The County Council changed their web site a day or two ago and I certainly don't yet know my way around it. What you want is called 'Heritage Search' and the link from the OFHS web site to <URL:http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heritagesearch> still works. = Malcolm. -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Hi, just to let you know, there is a Book of Norman names written in 1898, sorry, can't remember the author's name it was sometime ago that I read it. Got it at the library here. I found BRUDENALL, the origin of BRITNELL. An interesting read. Mary Anne BRITNELL Calgary Alberta

Christine Read wrote: > I am hoping this will be of interest/helpful to some of you to > maybe take your research back a little further! What a wonderful will :-) I have a Joan ASHENDEN, but by 1493 she had been Joan YATE for nearly 30 years, so I guess that isn't her. Anyway, mine was some miles from Reading. Though since he had relatives in Knutsford, distance might not matter so much :-) > He mentions also Thomas GRENEWEY my suant (I wonder if this is > servant)? They didn't really distinguish between "u" and "v", so I'd think it probably is. If you could see the original, it might have one of those squiggles over the "s" which indicate missing letters. DaveB

www.oxfordshire.gov.uk-heritagesearch If this doesn't work go to www.ofhs.org.uk and use the Heritage link at the bottom of the home page Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie Lever Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:16 PM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] catalogue at Oxfordshire History Centre Hello, I was looking at the website for the Oxfordshire History Centre and wanting to consult the catalogue or a list of resources. I was sure I had done this previously when it was the ORO, but now I can't find online access to seaching the catalogue or descriptions of the resources. Can anyone guide me there? Is it no longer available? Regards, Stephanie Lever Toronto, Canada ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Christine! from Wiktionary - suant >From Middle English with the meaning "following" < Anglo-Norman suant < Old French suiant, sivant, present participle of sivre (“to follow”) < Latin *sequere < sequor. As an adjective, dialectal, rare) Smooth, or proceeding smoothly. So it may be that the good reverend wanted no objections raised.. Cheers Geoff Roberson Cairns Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Read" <readchr13_99@yahoo.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:22 AM Subject: [OXF] Hopefully of interest - Many Names! > Hallo everyone, > I am hoping this will be of interest/helpful to some of you to maybe take > your research back a little further! > > I have a book published in 1883 by Rev. Charles Kerry which is about the > St. Lawrence Church, Reading and includes its history and many names and > details from its records since the 1400s. > > One section has some early Wills transcribed and one in particular that I > saw today and dated 1493 has so many names as well as relatives of the > Testator it strikes me as being a treasure for someone!! > > As the names here are from the 1400s they will probably not show in any > parish registers however early they go back, but some of you might just be > able to link these together with other Wills, to your own ancestors so I > am adding them here in the hope it will help. (For me sadly, none of these > names are connected to my own ancestors, but I found it interesting all > the same). This is just an abstract of the names - please contact me off > list if these could be connected to your research so that I can let you > know the bequests and/or details of the book if it is possible to still > get it. > > The Will of Henry KELSALL, of Redyng, clothyer 1493 > > “ … hole and sounde the mynde, not being syke the body, and in my last > days not knowing seke …” > > He mentions and bequeaths to various churches “ Saint Lawrence”, “Sainte > Marys” and “Saynt Gylys chirch” in Reading. Also bequeaths to the church > at Knottesford, Cheshire > He has property in Reading, Southampton and the “Ile of Wyght”. > > Thomas KELSALL my brother > Roger KELSALL my brother (possibly dead before 1493) > Charlys KELSALL son of my brother Roger KELSALL > Elizabeth KELSALL daughter of my brother Roger KELSALL > Thomas KELSALL son of my brother Roger KELSALL (These three children are > probably not of age - 21 or 25 as at 1493 “age xxiiij” ) > Agnes my wife > Margarett BOSDEN my sister > Mawde BOSDEN her daughter > Margarett BOSDEN sister of the saide Mawde > Jonett SWYNTON my sister > Roger SWYNTON her son > Any son and any daughter of my brother Thomas KELSALL > … to every of my Cosynnes, sonnys and doughters lawfully bigotten, between > Thomas MADOK of Knottesford (Cheshire) and Elizabeth my sister nowe being > alive … > Henry WOODHATCH my godson > John SAUNDER my servant > Johne BROKE my servant > Bequeaths to the marriage of Elizabeth CRANTMORE > Bequeaths to the daughter of William SWYNTON > Bequeaths to Margery PASTLEWE > Bequeaths to Joan ASSHENDON > Bequeaths to Henry SADELER > Bequeaths to the wife of John LECKE, hatmaker > The following ten names are “maynteners and susteyners of thaier devocion > of the Masse of Ihu …” > Richard CLECHE, draper > John BAXTSTER, tanner > John LANGHAM, iremonger > Stephen DUNSTER, draper > Rauff MYLLINGTON, clothyer > William TRU, yoman > John WYLCOKKS, chaundler and ffisshemonger > William SCOCHON, draper > Richard SMYTH, gent > John TWYTT > He mentions also Thomas GRENEWEY my suant (I wonder if this is servant)? > He makes Rauff WHYTE of Wokynham joint executor with his brother Thomas > KELSALL > Witnesses: Rauff HETHCOTE; Richard CLECHE; Rauff MYLLINGTON; William TRUE. > > He bequeaths to the “making of the Gyldhall in Reding when the said hall > shall be new bilded” > He makes bequests to many churches in Berkshire and Oxfordshire > He makes several bequests to the “mending of the way between Reding and > Pangborne …” (and many other mending of the ways between …) > He leaves bequests for a set number of “maydens” and a set number of “pore > men”. > > The Will was Proved at Lambeth sometime between January and February > 1493-4. > 　 > Well, I really hope there are some gems there for some of you and I would > love to hear from anyone that this has hopefully helped. I think Henry > KELSALL was a generous man and obviously made a lot of money in his time. > I love it that various roads leading from Reading to other places that my > ancestors would have travelled over were partly made because of his > bequests and I love it that he contributed to the Guildhall at Reading, > (is it still there?) and must have known it was going to be built as he > provided for it before it was “new bilded”. > > I’m happy to pass on more details from this Will to anyone so interested > in it. > > Kind regards, > > Christine Read > Cornwall, UK > So That’s Where I Get It From > www.rootsresearcher.wordpress.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS Open Day - 1 October in Woodstock > www.ofhs.org.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. 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Hello, I was looking at the website for the Oxfordshire History Centre and wanting to consult the catalogue or a list of resources. I was sure I had done this previously when it was the ORO, but now I can't find online access to seaching the catalogue or descriptions of the resources. Can anyone guide me there? Is it no longer available? Regards, Stephanie Lever Toronto, Canada

Hallo everyone,  I am hoping this will be of interest/helpful to some of you to maybe take your research back a little further!   I have a book published in 1883 by Rev. Charles Kerry which is about the St. Lawrence Church, Reading and includes its history and many names and details from its records since the 1400s.   One section has some early Wills transcribed and one in particular that I saw today and dated 1493 has so many names as well as relatives of the Testator it strikes me as being a treasure for someone!!   As the names here are from the 1400s they will probably not show in any parish registers however early they go back, but some of you might just be able to link these together with other Wills, to your own ancestors so I am adding them here in the hope it will help. (For me sadly, none of these names are connected to my own ancestors, but I found it interesting all the same). This is just an abstract of the names - please contact me off list if these could be connected to your research so that I can let you know the bequests and/or details of the book if it is possible to still get it.   The Will of Henry KELSALL, of Redyng, clothyer 1493   “ … hole and sounde the mynde, not being syke the body, and in my last days not knowing seke …”   He mentions and bequeaths to various churches “ Saint Lawrence”, “Sainte Marys” and “Saynt Gylys chirch” in Reading. Also bequeaths to the church at Knottesford, Cheshire He has property in Reading, Southampton and the “Ile of Wyght”.   Thomas KELSALL my brother Roger KELSALL my brother (possibly dead before 1493) Charlys KELSALL son of my brother Roger KELSALL Elizabeth KELSALL daughter of my brother Roger KELSALL Thomas KELSALL son of my brother Roger KELSALL (These three children are probably not of age - 21 or 25 as at 1493 “age xxiiij” ) Agnes my wife Margarett BOSDEN my sister Mawde BOSDEN her daughter Margarett BOSDEN sister of the saide Mawde Jonett SWYNTON my sister Roger SWYNTON her son Any son and any daughter of my brother Thomas KELSALL … to every of my Cosynnes, sonnys and doughters lawfully bigotten, between Thomas MADOK of Knottesford (Cheshire) and Elizabeth my sister nowe being alive … Henry WOODHATCH my godson John SAUNDER my servant Johne BROKE my servant Bequeaths to the marriage of Elizabeth CRANTMORE Bequeaths to the daughter of William SWYNTON Bequeaths to Margery PASTLEWE Bequeaths to Joan ASSHENDON Bequeaths to Henry SADELER Bequeaths to the wife of John LECKE, hatmaker The following ten names are “maynteners and susteyners of thaier devocion of the Masse of Ihu …” Richard CLECHE, draper John BAXTSTER, tanner John LANGHAM, iremonger Stephen DUNSTER, draper Rauff MYLLINGTON, clothyer William TRU, yoman John WYLCOKKS, chaundler and ffisshemonger William SCOCHON, draper Richard SMYTH, gent John TWYTT He mentions also Thomas GRENEWEY my suant (I wonder if this is servant)? He makes Rauff WHYTE of Wokynham joint executor with his brother Thomas KELSALL Witnesses: Rauff HETHCOTE; Richard CLECHE; Rauff MYLLINGTON; William TRUE.   He bequeaths to the “making of the Gyldhall in Reding when the said hall shall be new bilded” He makes bequests to many churches in Berkshire and Oxfordshire He makes several bequests to the “mending of the way between Reding and Pangborne …” (and many other mending of the ways between …) He leaves bequests for a set number of “maydens” and a set number of “pore men”.   The Will was Proved at Lambeth sometime between January and February 1493-4. 　 Well, I really hope there are some gems there for some of you and I would love to hear from anyone that this has hopefully helped. I think Henry KELSALL was a generous man and obviously made a lot of money in his time. I love it that various roads leading from Reading to other places that my ancestors would have travelled over were partly made because of his bequests and I love it that he contributed to the Guildhall at Reading, (is it still there?) and must have known it was going to be built as he provided for it before it was “new bilded”.   I’m happy to pass on more details from this Will to anyone so interested in it.   Kind regards,   Christine Read Cornwall, UK So That’s Where I Get It From www.rootsresearcher.wordpress.com