This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MYERS, ULRICH(or ULRICK) , ALDERMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5cB.2ACI/571 Message Board Post: Wren Cleveland Myers b. 21 Nov 1884 m. Fannie Ulrich May 1907 . Wren was a landscaper/gardener for many years and he and Fannie lived for many years in the area of Hillboro. They were parents of Bessie and Frances . Bessie was married to Art Alderman (date and place unknown) Wren C. Myers d. 13, Sept. 1967 and at the time of his death (via obit notice in Portland Oregonian - Sept. 14 , 1967 was grandfather to 7 grandchildren and 19 GreatGrandchildren . He was buried at Skyline Memorial Cemetery in Portland . Wife Fannie passed away circa 1973-76 . Daughter Frances preceded her father in death. Daughter Bessie Alderman passed away circa 1975-1980 ; Her husband Art was last known to have lived in Eastern Oregon near either Baker or Bend . Are there any descendants (Great Grandchildren) out there ?? Please contact me , My husband Bill was (son of William H. Myers Jr.) a nephew to Wren C. Myers . Neomi Myers <neemy735@msn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lovnes Noel Classen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5cB.2ACI/570 Message Board Post: My Mom has lost contact with her twin brother Arlen. They were born on December 25, 1931 in Canada and went to school in Fort Frances, Ontario, Canada. He has moved into the States somewhere and no one has had contact with him in many years. Last my mom saw him was in 1955 when she was on her honey moon. He was at that time still in Canada. My Mom's name is Arlene and her maiden name by her birth certificate was Lovnes but she always went by Noel which was the name of the lady who cared for them since their mother was unable to do so??? He may have gone by Noel also. His friends were the Classens. Mom's married name is Hoffman and she still resides in the town the twins went to school in. I have never met my mom's twin brother and would love the opportunity to speak with him and see pictures of him and his children if he has any. Anyone with any information please, please pass it on. Thank you

For starters, where did they die; where are they buried; did they own land; leave a will, anything to track them, or their descendents. Oregon is a very big place. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <djcsikos@en.com> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON] Portland families-TEMPLETON & CHAMBERS-need obits please > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5cB.2ACI/569 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello: > I am searching for some distant cousins & have found these in the Oregon death index at Ancestry, I would very much like to find some obits & the burial locations for these people. Are these records available on-line (if so where)? I am hoping that someone can provide some knowledge to aid in my family research. The names I have found are: > Hill Templeton (died 3 Feb 1986) & his wife Cecile Lilly Templelton (9 Aug 1983) & Verne Chambers (died 6 Dec 1934) & Lena Sisley Chambers (died 14 Oct 1982). Thank you so much for your time & consideration in this. > Dianna > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > http://www.usgenweb.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 8/1/03

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5cB.2ACI/569 Message Board Post: Hello: I am searching for some distant cousins & have found these in the Oregon death index at Ancestry, I would very much like to find some obits & the burial locations for these people. Are these records available on-line (if so where)? I am hoping that someone can provide some knowledge to aid in my family research. The names I have found are: Hill Templeton (died 3 Feb 1986) & his wife Cecile Lilly Templelton (9 Aug 1983) & Verne Chambers (died 6 Dec 1934) & Lena Sisley Chambers (died 14 Oct 1982). Thank you so much for your time & consideration in this. Dianna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SCOTT, FLOWER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5cB.2ACI/568 Message Board Post: I really hope that someone can help me on this problem. I need to find the married name of a distant cousin of mine. I have several letters that she wrote to another of our cousins, but nowhere in any of the letters or on the envelopes is given her full name. Her maiden name was Catherine Ann "Kate" SCOTT, and she was born abt. 1880 possibly in Iowa. Her parents were John SCOTT and Ellen FLOWER. She married a Fred [-?-] and had a daughter named Roma. They lived in Forest Grove at 333 S. Main St. as early as the mid-1930's. Fred was a member of the Rotary Club. At one time, Fred was asked to run for Mayor of Forest Grove, but he turned them down. I believe he may have sold real estate. He also served on the Grand Jury in Portland at least a couple of times. Kate and Fred had a daughter named Roma. Roma worked for the Superintendent of Grade Schools at the Central School, and Lincoln School, and taught at Pacific University at various times in the late 1930's and early 1940's.! I would appreciate any help on locating information on this family! Thank you!! - - Karen (kmyroots@cs.com)

There is no obit in the Hillsboro Argus for the time period around Oct 1, 1917 for Mary Nash Rathbun Van Schoick. (Hillsboro is in mid county) The 1910 soundex lists in East Cedar Creek Prec; ED 271, sheet 12 line 32: Emile Van Sake age 30, born in Belgium, and wife Mary age 28, born in Belgium. this is the only entry with a similar sounding name. The rest of the information does not seem to be a likely match. Judy Goldmann __________________________________________________________ Valerie Orner wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I am looking for an obituary for my 3x great grandmother, Mary Nash > Rathbun Van Schoick, who died in Washington Co. on October 1, 1917. I > don't know specifically where she lived, nor what her husband's first > name was. Any information would be most helpful. Thanks much. > > Valerie Orner > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/

There is no obit in the Hillsboro Argus for the time period around Oct 1, 1917 for Mary Nash Rathbun Van Schoick. (Hillsboro is in mid county) The 1910 soundex lists in East Cedar Creek Prec; ED 271, sheet 12 line 32: Emile Van Sake age 30, born in Belgium, and wife Mary age 28, born in Belgium. this is the only entry with a similar sounding name. The rest of the information does not seem to be a likely match. Judy Goldmann __________________________________________________________ Valerie Orner wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I am looking for an obituary for my 3x great grandmother, Mary Nash > Rathbun Van Schoick, who died in Washington Co. on October 1, 1917. I > don't know specifically where she lived, nor what her husband's first > name was. Any information would be most helpful. Thanks much. > > Valerie Orner > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/

Maxine look on line at the Oregon Death index, Oregon State archives site, not the Ancestry site. Be sure to check the Portland index as it is seperate for the early years.---Many people from Wa. co. died in Portland hospital. if you do find a listing let me know and I will be glad to go to the archives and get a copy of the death certificate for you. The Portland newspapers are at the State library and I can check those for an obit if I have a positive death date. At that time period there wasn't always an obit or even a death notice but will be glad to check for you. Let me know if I can help, would be next week late or early the following week before I could do it. . clara

Valerie, Check the Oregon state census for 1910 and she may be listed there with spouce if alive or alone or as head of household. Then you will prob. know where she was when died. Also ask for a look up in the Oregon death index. Maxine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Orner" <valo@saber.net> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: [WASHINGTON] Looking for an obit > Hi everyone, > > I am looking for an obituary for my 3x great grandmother, Mary Nash > Rathbun Van Schoick, who died in Washington Co. on October 1, 1917. I > don't know specifically where she lived, nor what her husband's first > name was. Any information would be most helpful. Thanks much. > > Valerie Orner > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ >

Hi everyone, I am looking for an obituary for my 3x great grandmother, Mary Nash Rathbun Van Schoick, who died in Washington Co. on October 1, 1917. I don't know specifically where she lived, nor what her husband's first name was. Any information would be most helpful. Thanks much. Valerie Orner

Hello searcher helper's; I am looking for the following: Edward Weaver b in abt 1888 in Idaho..and wife, Bertha (Hitt ) Weaver. b prob. May 1895 and may have lived in Portland/ Beaverton / Hillsboro area's in last days. before death Does someone have a copy or access to the Ore. death records????in abt 1967. Edward (Ed) may have passed on after Bertha. Imfo on a Barbara Shaw/ Chavez a dau of the Weaver's. Mar a Felix Chavez in abt 1964 Felix died in abt 1985 . Thanks for any imfo. Maxine mmwaw@sprynet.com

I'm sorry to bother the list, but could someone please tell me how to unsubscribe? I had only one ancestor from this area and I found him after lots of kind folk pointed me in the right direction. Thanks list for excellent work! Linda Trent lindatrent@zoomnet.net

Click on orwashin-l-request@rootsweb.com type in unsubscribe send. It's automatic from there. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Trent" <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > I'm sorry to bother the list, but could someone please tell me how to > unsubscribe? I had only one ancestor from this area and I found him after > lots of kind folk pointed me in the right direction. > > Thanks list for excellent work! > > Linda Trent > lindatrent@zoomnet.net > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon Pioneer Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orpionpr/ >

Strange things happen, but courtesy and prior identity and purpose go a long way. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > Hey Don, > > Do people really do that???? Wow! Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should go have a talk with the man. I've identified myself to his daughter once before when she came to let me know that the cemetery was closing. Told her who I was and what I was doing there. She said she didn't care, but that it was closing time and that I needed to go. > So, I went. > > Hey thanks again, Don. > Shelley Van Loo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Kelly > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:56 PM > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > I think it good that he knows who you are and why you are there. He will > be more cooperative that way. When I told him I need a photo of a > gravesite, he dropped everything (preparing for a funeral) to take me to > the site. Now I can drive around and since he knows me, pays no > attention to what I am up to. You see, there are people who will apply > for a replacement SS card, or birth certificate, by finding a dead > person of the right birth year and using the name of a dead person to > commit crimes. Lots of scams arise from using names of deceased people. > Good for the sextant to know who you are. > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> > To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > Actually, I haven't really talked to the sextant yet, I just started > with just getting the pictures first, should I have done it the other > way around first? > > I figured after the pictures, then I'd get the scoop on who is where. > Although, talking to the sextant might help me out with those stones > that are so hard to read that they won't even show up on camera! > > > > Cameras are great things! Found that out on our honeymoon in Hawaii, > we took pictures of the (sorry if i'm wrong on the name-it's been a > while) SS Arizona? the pearl harbor memorial, Anyhow, once on the > memorial, we took pictures outside of the surrounding waters, because > after all of these years, you could still see oil on the surface of the > water from this ship! > > Once we developed the pictures, woah! you could see things in the > picture that were under water that we couldn't see with the naked eye > from the surface. > > It was weird! > > > > Anyhow, have experience this again, with hard to read with the eye > toombstones. You can't see them, but something about the pictures can > sometimes pick up what you can't dissertain. > > > > Alright, I gotta go for now, still have so much to do for this > upcoming reunion. > > Be getting back with you another time, > > Shelley Van Loo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Don Kelly > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:40 AM > > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > I know you have a monumental task there. To bad the sextant won't just > > let you copy his records. I saw them and they are really complete, and > > accurate far as I can tell. I gave him a name and he walked me to the > > site.....knew from memory where it was. I note there are sections, a > > section for Masons and other types of sections. I tried to find a > Civil > > War section, but only found an old stone date 1835 which was clearly > > there before Forest Grove was founded. To bad I could not read the > name > > of that SOONER. What a story he could tell. > > > > Don > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> > > To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > > > > Hey Don, > > > > > > I'm still working on Forest View. Have had a lot of Family things > come > > up lately, but when I get the chance, I jump on it!! :) I had my hubby > > buy me one of those CD-RW discs, so that I can add picture anytime I > > want to ONE disc. > > > > > > I have a pretty good start on these photos, just need to get names > and > > dates down for them, you know sort of catigorize. > > > > > > I read your email about bull mt. cemetery, I chuckled because I kind > > of took the message about "Someone to take photos". That would be > > extremely helpful! I wish I could volunteer, but this one cemetery is > > enough to last me through the summer! > > > Hopefully there are more folks out there with digital cameras, who > > will take the initive. > > > Sometimes, the way people transcribe these cemeteries, well, it > almost > > seems like there isn't any kind of "Easy read Format" to put the > > transcriptions into. > > > I guess everyones style is different. I'm not knocking anyone's > style, > > I'm just kind of a Virgo...you know the trait, gotta have order :) > > > > > > Keep up the good work that you are trying to accomplish for so many! > > > Hope to be in contact with you sometime maybe by end of summer, > early > > fall with a disc full of photos for ya!!! > > > > > > Thanks for being out leader! > > > Shelley Van Loo > > > Cornelius, Oregon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Don Kelly > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:56 PM > > > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > > > OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is > > marked > > > dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an > > expensive > > > home stands where the church once stood. > > > > > > 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry > > > says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical > > > Church, Tigard, Oregon, > > > In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast > > > Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul > > Harris. > > > > > > The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club > has > > > cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and > > > individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside > setting. > > > Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute > > > testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. > > > > > > There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some > > > burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned > > > over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the > pedestals > > > left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. > > > > > > As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. > One > > > site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke > to > > > everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them > > > anyway, especially the children. > > > > > > Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help > > translating > > > those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 > years > > > ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. > > > > > > I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will > > take > > > pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names > > > that I could read. > > > > > > Conrad Voct, > > > Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled > Vogt, > > > new to me. > > > William Bremer > > > Sophie Bremer (wife?) > > > Herb Ichhale Another new name to > me. > > > Ulricke S. Plieth > > > Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz > > > August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz > > > Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. > > > Father Henry Same stone as Matilda > > > Joseph Long > > > Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser > > > Fred V. Kaee > > > Schritt > > > Herman Frederick Strucken > > > Thomas, Charles L. and Olive > > > Effie L. Thomas > > > Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson > > > Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half > > in > > > the soil. > > > John Miltenberger > > > Agnes M. Rehberg > > > Strucken, Fred C. and Emma > > > Bolan, George and Malinda > > > John Piatt > > > Clarence May Piatt > > > Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be > > first > > > names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, > (Guter > > > may be a brother) > > > Kurth will small letters not read > > > Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) > > > Ursula (next to aunt Marie) > > > > > > Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown > > > Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. > > > William Polland > > > Mother Louisa Shamburg > > > August Shamburg > > > > > > Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing > > or > > > broken. > > > Behmke > > > Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. > > > Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE > another > > > new one to me. > > > > > > There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and > > > covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace > > > them. > > > > > > I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you > and > > > email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be > lost, > > > but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn > > the > > > loss, or know the site. > > > > > > A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the > stones. > > He > > > said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, > > and > > > the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes > worry > > > me. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > > > http://www.usgenweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ > > > > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > This list is for everyone with a genealogy interest in Washington > County Oregon. Topical posts only. No spam, flaming or commercial > postings allowed. > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Oregon Pioneer Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orpionpr/ > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > http://www.usgenweb.com > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > http://www.usgenweb.com >

Hey Don, Do people really do that???? Wow! Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should go have a talk with the man. I've identified myself to his daughter once before when she came to let me know that the cemetery was closing. Told her who I was and what I was doing there. She said she didn't care, but that it was closing time and that I needed to go. So, I went. Hey thanks again, Don. Shelley Van Loo ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Kelly Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:56 PM To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. I think it good that he knows who you are and why you are there. He will be more cooperative that way. When I told him I need a photo of a gravesite, he dropped everything (preparing for a funeral) to take me to the site. Now I can drive around and since he knows me, pays no attention to what I am up to. You see, there are people who will apply for a replacement SS card, or birth certificate, by finding a dead person of the right birth year and using the name of a dead person to commit crimes. Lots of scams arise from using names of deceased people. Good for the sextant to know who you are. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > Actually, I haven't really talked to the sextant yet, I just started with just getting the pictures first, should I have done it the other way around first? > I figured after the pictures, then I'd get the scoop on who is where. Although, talking to the sextant might help me out with those stones that are so hard to read that they won't even show up on camera! > > Cameras are great things! Found that out on our honeymoon in Hawaii, we took pictures of the (sorry if i'm wrong on the name-it's been a while) SS Arizona? the pearl harbor memorial, Anyhow, once on the memorial, we took pictures outside of the surrounding waters, because after all of these years, you could still see oil on the surface of the water from this ship! > Once we developed the pictures, woah! you could see things in the picture that were under water that we couldn't see with the naked eye from the surface. > It was weird! > > Anyhow, have experience this again, with hard to read with the eye toombstones. You can't see them, but something about the pictures can sometimes pick up what you can't dissertain. > > Alright, I gotta go for now, still have so much to do for this upcoming reunion. > Be getting back with you another time, > Shelley Van Loo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Kelly > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:40 AM > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > I know you have a monumental task there. To bad the sextant won't just > let you copy his records. I saw them and they are really complete, and > accurate far as I can tell. I gave him a name and he walked me to the > site.....knew from memory where it was. I note there are sections, a > section for Masons and other types of sections. I tried to find a Civil > War section, but only found an old stone date 1835 which was clearly > there before Forest Grove was founded. To bad I could not read the name > of that SOONER. What a story he could tell. > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> > To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:01 AM > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > Hey Don, > > > > I'm still working on Forest View. Have had a lot of Family things come > up lately, but when I get the chance, I jump on it!! :) I had my hubby > buy me one of those CD-RW discs, so that I can add picture anytime I > want to ONE disc. > > > > I have a pretty good start on these photos, just need to get names and > dates down for them, you know sort of catigorize. > > > > I read your email about bull mt. cemetery, I chuckled because I kind > of took the message about "Someone to take photos". That would be > extremely helpful! I wish I could volunteer, but this one cemetery is > enough to last me through the summer! > > Hopefully there are more folks out there with digital cameras, who > will take the initive. > > Sometimes, the way people transcribe these cemeteries, well, it almost > seems like there isn't any kind of "Easy read Format" to put the > transcriptions into. > > I guess everyones style is different. I'm not knocking anyone's style, > I'm just kind of a Virgo...you know the trait, gotta have order :) > > > > Keep up the good work that you are trying to accomplish for so many! > > Hope to be in contact with you sometime maybe by end of summer, early > fall with a disc full of photos for ya!!! > > > > Thanks for being out leader! > > Shelley Van Loo > > Cornelius, Oregon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Don Kelly > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:56 PM > > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is > marked > > dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an > expensive > > home stands where the church once stood. > > > > 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry > > says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical > > Church, Tigard, Oregon, > > In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast > > Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul > Harris. > > > > The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club has > > cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and > > individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside setting. > > Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute > > testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. > > > > There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some > > burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned > > over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the pedestals > > left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. > > > > As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. One > > site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke to > > everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them > > anyway, especially the children. > > > > Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help > translating > > those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 years > > ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. > > > > I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will > take > > pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names > > that I could read. > > > > Conrad Voct, > > Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled Vogt, > > new to me. > > William Bremer > > Sophie Bremer (wife?) > > Herb Ichhale Another new name to me. > > Ulricke S. Plieth > > Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz > > August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz > > Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. > > Father Henry Same stone as Matilda > > Joseph Long > > Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser > > Fred V. Kaee > > Schritt > > Herman Frederick Strucken > > Thomas, Charles L. and Olive > > Effie L. Thomas > > Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson > > Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half > in > > the soil. > > John Miltenberger > > Agnes M. Rehberg > > Strucken, Fred C. and Emma > > Bolan, George and Malinda > > John Piatt > > Clarence May Piatt > > Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be > first > > names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, (Guter > > may be a brother) > > Kurth will small letters not read > > Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) > > Ursula (next to aunt Marie) > > > > Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown > > Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. > > William Polland > > Mother Louisa Shamburg > > August Shamburg > > > > Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing > or > > broken. > > Behmke > > Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. > > Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE another > > new one to me. > > > > There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and > > covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace > > them. > > > > I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you and > > email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be lost, > > but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn > the > > loss, or know the site. > > > > A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the stones. > He > > said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, > and > > the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes worry > > me. > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > > http://www.usgenweb.com > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > This list is for everyone with a genealogy interest in Washington County Oregon. Topical posts only. No spam, flaming or commercial postings allowed. > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon Pioneer Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orpionpr/ > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== Visit the USGenWeb Project site http://www.usgenweb.com

I think it good that he knows who you are and why you are there. He will be more cooperative that way. When I told him I need a photo of a gravesite, he dropped everything (preparing for a funeral) to take me to the site. Now I can drive around and since he knows me, pays no attention to what I am up to. You see, there are people who will apply for a replacement SS card, or birth certificate, by finding a dead person of the right birth year and using the name of a dead person to commit crimes. Lots of scams arise from using names of deceased people. Good for the sextant to know who you are. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > Actually, I haven't really talked to the sextant yet, I just started with just getting the pictures first, should I have done it the other way around first? > I figured after the pictures, then I'd get the scoop on who is where. Although, talking to the sextant might help me out with those stones that are so hard to read that they won't even show up on camera! > > Cameras are great things! Found that out on our honeymoon in Hawaii, we took pictures of the (sorry if i'm wrong on the name-it's been a while) SS Arizona? the pearl harbor memorial, Anyhow, once on the memorial, we took pictures outside of the surrounding waters, because after all of these years, you could still see oil on the surface of the water from this ship! > Once we developed the pictures, woah! you could see things in the picture that were under water that we couldn't see with the naked eye from the surface. > It was weird! > > Anyhow, have experience this again, with hard to read with the eye toombstones. You can't see them, but something about the pictures can sometimes pick up what you can't dissertain. > > Alright, I gotta go for now, still have so much to do for this upcoming reunion. > Be getting back with you another time, > Shelley Van Loo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Kelly > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:40 AM > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > I know you have a monumental task there. To bad the sextant won't just > let you copy his records. I saw them and they are really complete, and > accurate far as I can tell. I gave him a name and he walked me to the > site.....knew from memory where it was. I note there are sections, a > section for Masons and other types of sections. I tried to find a Civil > War section, but only found an old stone date 1835 which was clearly > there before Forest Grove was founded. To bad I could not read the name > of that SOONER. What a story he could tell. > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> > To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:01 AM > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > Hey Don, > > > > I'm still working on Forest View. Have had a lot of Family things come > up lately, but when I get the chance, I jump on it!! :) I had my hubby > buy me one of those CD-RW discs, so that I can add picture anytime I > want to ONE disc. > > > > I have a pretty good start on these photos, just need to get names and > dates down for them, you know sort of catigorize. > > > > I read your email about bull mt. cemetery, I chuckled because I kind > of took the message about "Someone to take photos". That would be > extremely helpful! I wish I could volunteer, but this one cemetery is > enough to last me through the summer! > > Hopefully there are more folks out there with digital cameras, who > will take the initive. > > Sometimes, the way people transcribe these cemeteries, well, it almost > seems like there isn't any kind of "Easy read Format" to put the > transcriptions into. > > I guess everyones style is different. I'm not knocking anyone's style, > I'm just kind of a Virgo...you know the trait, gotta have order :) > > > > Keep up the good work that you are trying to accomplish for so many! > > Hope to be in contact with you sometime maybe by end of summer, early > fall with a disc full of photos for ya!!! > > > > Thanks for being out leader! > > Shelley Van Loo > > Cornelius, Oregon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Don Kelly > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:56 PM > > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > > > OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is > marked > > dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an > expensive > > home stands where the church once stood. > > > > 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry > > says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical > > Church, Tigard, Oregon, > > In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast > > Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul > Harris. > > > > The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club has > > cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and > > individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside setting. > > Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute > > testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. > > > > There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some > > burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned > > over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the pedestals > > left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. > > > > As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. One > > site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke to > > everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them > > anyway, especially the children. > > > > Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help > translating > > those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 years > > ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. > > > > I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will > take > > pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names > > that I could read. > > > > Conrad Voct, > > Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled Vogt, > > new to me. > > William Bremer > > Sophie Bremer (wife?) > > Herb Ichhale Another new name to me. > > Ulricke S. Plieth > > Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz > > August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz > > Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. > > Father Henry Same stone as Matilda > > Joseph Long > > Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser > > Fred V. Kaee > > Schritt > > Herman Frederick Strucken > > Thomas, Charles L. and Olive > > Effie L. Thomas > > Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson > > Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half > in > > the soil. > > John Miltenberger > > Agnes M. Rehberg > > Strucken, Fred C. and Emma > > Bolan, George and Malinda > > John Piatt > > Clarence May Piatt > > Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be > first > > names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, (Guter > > may be a brother) > > Kurth will small letters not read > > Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) > > Ursula (next to aunt Marie) > > > > Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown > > Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. > > William Polland > > Mother Louisa Shamburg > > August Shamburg > > > > Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing > or > > broken. > > Behmke > > Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. > > Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE another > > new one to me. > > > > There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and > > covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace > > them. > > > > I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you and > > email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be lost, > > but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn > the > > loss, or know the site. > > > > A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the stones. > He > > said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, > and > > the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes worry > > me. > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > > http://www.usgenweb.com > > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > This list is for everyone with a genealogy interest in Washington County Oregon. Topical posts only. No spam, flaming or commercial postings allowed. > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon Pioneer Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orpionpr/ >

Actually, I haven't really talked to the sextant yet, I just started with just getting the pictures first, should I have done it the other way around first? I figured after the pictures, then I'd get the scoop on who is where. Although, talking to the sextant might help me out with those stones that are so hard to read that they won't even show up on camera! Cameras are great things! Found that out on our honeymoon in Hawaii, we took pictures of the (sorry if i'm wrong on the name-it's been a while) SS Arizona? the pearl harbor memorial, Anyhow, once on the memorial, we took pictures outside of the surrounding waters, because after all of these years, you could still see oil on the surface of the water from this ship! Once we developed the pictures, woah! you could see things in the picture that were under water that we couldn't see with the naked eye from the surface. It was weird! Anyhow, have experience this again, with hard to read with the eye toombstones. You can't see them, but something about the pictures can sometimes pick up what you can't dissertain. Alright, I gotta go for now, still have so much to do for this upcoming reunion. Be getting back with you another time, Shelley Van Loo ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Kelly Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:40 AM To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. I know you have a monumental task there. To bad the sextant won't just let you copy his records. I saw them and they are really complete, and accurate far as I can tell. I gave him a name and he walked me to the site.....knew from memory where it was. I note there are sections, a section for Masons and other types of sections. I tried to find a Civil War section, but only found an old stone date 1835 which was clearly there before Forest Grove was founded. To bad I could not read the name of that SOONER. What a story he could tell. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > Hey Don, > > I'm still working on Forest View. Have had a lot of Family things come up lately, but when I get the chance, I jump on it!! :) I had my hubby buy me one of those CD-RW discs, so that I can add picture anytime I want to ONE disc. > > I have a pretty good start on these photos, just need to get names and dates down for them, you know sort of catigorize. > > I read your email about bull mt. cemetery, I chuckled because I kind of took the message about "Someone to take photos". That would be extremely helpful! I wish I could volunteer, but this one cemetery is enough to last me through the summer! > Hopefully there are more folks out there with digital cameras, who will take the initive. > Sometimes, the way people transcribe these cemeteries, well, it almost seems like there isn't any kind of "Easy read Format" to put the transcriptions into. > I guess everyones style is different. I'm not knocking anyone's style, I'm just kind of a Virgo...you know the trait, gotta have order :) > > Keep up the good work that you are trying to accomplish for so many! > Hope to be in contact with you sometime maybe by end of summer, early fall with a disc full of photos for ya!!! > > Thanks for being out leader! > Shelley Van Loo > Cornelius, Oregon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:56 PM > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is marked > dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an expensive > home stands where the church once stood. > > 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry > says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical > Church, Tigard, Oregon, > In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast > Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul Harris. > > The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club has > cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and > individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside setting. > Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute > testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. > > There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some > burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned > over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the pedestals > left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. > > As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. One > site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke to > everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them > anyway, especially the children. > > Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help translating > those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 years > ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. > > I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will take > pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names > that I could read. > > Conrad Voct, > Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled Vogt, > new to me. > William Bremer > Sophie Bremer (wife?) > Herb Ichhale Another new name to me. > Ulricke S. Plieth > Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz > August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz > Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. > Father Henry Same stone as Matilda > Joseph Long > Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser > Fred V. Kaee > Schritt > Herman Frederick Strucken > Thomas, Charles L. and Olive > Effie L. Thomas > Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson > Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half in > the soil. > John Miltenberger > Agnes M. Rehberg > Strucken, Fred C. and Emma > Bolan, George and Malinda > John Piatt > Clarence May Piatt > Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be first > names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, (Guter > may be a brother) > Kurth will small letters not read > Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) > Ursula (next to aunt Marie) > > Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown > Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. > William Polland > Mother Louisa Shamburg > August Shamburg > > Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing or > broken. > Behmke > Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. > Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE another > new one to me. > > There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and > covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace > them. > > I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you and > email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be lost, > but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn the > loss, or know the site. > > A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the stones. He > said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, and > the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes worry > me. > > Don > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > http://www.usgenweb.com > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== This list is for everyone with a genealogy interest in Washington County Oregon. Topical posts only. No spam, flaming or commercial postings allowed.

I know you have a monumental task there. To bad the sextant won't just let you copy his records. I saw them and they are really complete, and accurate far as I can tell. I gave him a name and he walked me to the site.....knew from memory where it was. I note there are sections, a section for Masons and other types of sections. I tried to find a Civil War section, but only found an old stone date 1835 which was clearly there before Forest Grove was founded. To bad I could not read the name of that SOONER. What a story he could tell. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "MATTHEW VAN LOO" <msskvanloo@msn.com> To: <ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > Hey Don, > > I'm still working on Forest View. Have had a lot of Family things come up lately, but when I get the chance, I jump on it!! :) I had my hubby buy me one of those CD-RW discs, so that I can add picture anytime I want to ONE disc. > > I have a pretty good start on these photos, just need to get names and dates down for them, you know sort of catigorize. > > I read your email about bull mt. cemetery, I chuckled because I kind of took the message about "Someone to take photos". That would be extremely helpful! I wish I could volunteer, but this one cemetery is enough to last me through the summer! > Hopefully there are more folks out there with digital cameras, who will take the initive. > Sometimes, the way people transcribe these cemeteries, well, it almost seems like there isn't any kind of "Easy read Format" to put the transcriptions into. > I guess everyones style is different. I'm not knocking anyone's style, I'm just kind of a Virgo...you know the trait, gotta have order :) > > Keep up the good work that you are trying to accomplish for so many! > Hope to be in contact with you sometime maybe by end of summer, early fall with a disc full of photos for ya!!! > > Thanks for being out leader! > Shelley Van Loo > Cornelius, Oregon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:56 PM > To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. > > OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is marked > dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an expensive > home stands where the church once stood. > > 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry > says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical > Church, Tigard, Oregon, > In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast > Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul Harris. > > The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club has > cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and > individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside setting. > Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute > testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. > > There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some > burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned > over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the pedestals > left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. > > As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. One > site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke to > everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them > anyway, especially the children. > > Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help translating > those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 years > ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. > > I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will take > pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names > that I could read. > > Conrad Voct, > Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled Vogt, > new to me. > William Bremer > Sophie Bremer (wife?) > Herb Ichhale Another new name to me. > Ulricke S. Plieth > Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz > August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz > Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. > Father Henry Same stone as Matilda > Joseph Long > Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser > Fred V. Kaee > Schritt > Herman Frederick Strucken > Thomas, Charles L. and Olive > Effie L. Thomas > Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson > Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half in > the soil. > John Miltenberger > Agnes M. Rehberg > Strucken, Fred C. and Emma > Bolan, George and Malinda > John Piatt > Clarence May Piatt > Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be first > names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, (Guter > may be a brother) > Kurth will small letters not read > Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) > Ursula (next to aunt Marie) > > Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown > Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. > William Polland > Mother Louisa Shamburg > August Shamburg > > Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing or > broken. > Behmke > Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. > Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE another > new one to me. > > There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and > covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace > them. > > I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you and > email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be lost, > but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn the > loss, or know the site. > > A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the stones. He > said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, and > the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes worry > me. > > Don > > > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Project site > http://www.usgenweb.com > > > ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Oregon GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ >

Hey Don, I'm still working on Forest View. Have had a lot of Family things come up lately, but when I get the chance, I jump on it!! :) I had my hubby buy me one of those CD-RW discs, so that I can add picture anytime I want to ONE disc. I have a pretty good start on these photos, just need to get names and dates down for them, you know sort of catigorize. I read your email about bull mt. cemetery, I chuckled because I kind of took the message about "Someone to take photos". That would be extremely helpful! I wish I could volunteer, but this one cemetery is enough to last me through the summer! Hopefully there are more folks out there with digital cameras, who will take the initive. Sometimes, the way people transcribe these cemeteries, well, it almost seems like there isn't any kind of "Easy read Format" to put the transcriptions into. I guess everyones style is different. I'm not knocking anyone's style, I'm just kind of a Virgo...you know the trait, gotta have order :) Keep up the good work that you are trying to accomplish for so many! Hope to be in contact with you sometime maybe by end of summer, early fall with a disc full of photos for ya!!! Thanks for being out leader! Shelley Van Loo Cornelius, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Kelly Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:56 PM To: ORWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON] Cem 99 and Bull Mtn. Rd. OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is marked dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an expensive home stands where the church once stood. 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical Church, Tigard, Oregon, In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul Harris. The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club has cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside setting. Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the pedestals left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. One site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke to everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them anyway, especially the children. Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help translating those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 years ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will take pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names that I could read. Conrad Voct, Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled Vogt, new to me. William Bremer Sophie Bremer (wife?) Herb Ichhale Another new name to me. Ulricke S. Plieth Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. Father Henry Same stone as Matilda Joseph Long Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser Fred V. Kaee Schritt Herman Frederick Strucken Thomas, Charles L. and Olive Effie L. Thomas Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half in the soil. John Miltenberger Agnes M. Rehberg Strucken, Fred C. and Emma Bolan, George and Malinda John Piatt Clarence May Piatt Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be first names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, (Guter may be a brother) Kurth will small letters not read Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) Ursula (next to aunt Marie) Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. William Polland Mother Louisa Shamburg August Shamburg Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing or broken. Behmke Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE another new one to me. There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace them. I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you and email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be lost, but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn the loss, or know the site. A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the stones. He said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, and the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes worry me. Don ==== ORWASHIN Mailing List ==== Visit the USGenWeb Project site http://www.usgenweb.com

OK, about the cemetery on 99W at Bull Mountain Road. The road is marked dead and closed. I didn't drive all the way up, but suspect an expensive home stands where the church once stood. 300 feet up the road, left branch into the cemetery. Plaque at entry says"Sunset Pioneer Cemetery, founded 1886 by Trinity Evangelical Church, Tigard, Oregon, In memory of the Tigerville Pioneers, Maintained by Tigard Breakfast Club, sponsored by Tigard Rotary Club in memory of founder Paul Harris. The cemetery is quite overgrown with ivy and spiders, but the club has cleared most of the family plots (enclosed by cement curbs) and individual stones which are remarkably upright for a hillside setting. Some stone base size holes in the ground, (some appear fresh) mute testimony to stones being removed with a shovel. There is evidence from grave size depressions in the ivy that some burials have no stone, or the stone is gone. Other stones are turned over, many broken, and some have been removed with only the pedestals left......searched the ivy and found no other discarded stones. As evidenced by flowers left there, the site still draws visitors. One site of a baby had a baby's toy placed on top of the stone. I spoke to everyone and told them that though I did not know them, I loved them anyway, especially the children. Many transcriptions are written in German, so I'll need help translating those. The polished marble stones are as clear as they were 100 years ago, but the soft stone monuments are hard to read. I'll put the transcriptions up on the website and hope someone will take pictures to add later. Meanwhile I'll list just the first/last names that I could read. Conrad Voct, Mother, Mrs. Conrad Vogt These are probably both spelled Vogt, new to me. William Bremer Sophie Bremer (wife?) Herb Ichhale Another new name to me. Ulricke S. Plieth Frederick A. Karoliee Baatz August Wilhelm Same stone as Baatz Grebe, Mother Matilda M.A. Father Henry Same stone as Matilda Joseph Long Katherine E. daughter of Lois and Emma Moser Fred V. Kaee Schritt Herman Frederick Strucken Thomas, Charles L. and Olive Effie L. Thomas Josephine, wife of L.D.Robinson Little stone with no writing, about 8" X 12" by 2" thick buried half in the soil. John Miltenberger Agnes M. Rehberg Strucken, Fred C. and Emma Bolan, George and Malinda John Piatt Clarence May Piatt Big metal caste monument written in German with what appears to be first names, Dienon Eltern, Sgufzen Galten, Guter Bruder, Einzig Dir, (Guter may be a brother) Kurth will small letters not read Aunt Marie (next to Kurth) Ursula (next to aunt Marie) Two stones flanking path, but relationship unknown Theodore Steinhoff (cross path two feet away) Ernest Ludwig. William Polland Mother Louisa Shamburg August Shamburg Last plot enclosed in cement curb with 8 family stones, most missing or broken. Behmke Father Fred Behnke probably BOEMKE or BEHMKE very faint. Julia Behnke quite clear, so name is BEHNKE another new one to me. There may be many more stone buried in the ivy, or thrown aside and covered with ivy, but it seems clear the club will find and replace them. I encourage all of you to transcribe that small cemetery near you and email it to me. We know about the big ones because they can't be lost, but the small ones can by bulldozed under and no one alive to mourn the loss, or know the site. A teen ager walked through the park and I asked him about the stones. He said they were broken or removed when he moved there ten years ago, and the cemetery now is better than it was, yet the new shovel holes worry me. Don