Roger WILLIAMS b:Abt. 1625?, had Joseph WILLIAMS, b:Dec. 12, 1643, in Providence, RI. Joseph WILLAIMS, b:Abt.1643?, same as above, wed Lydia OLNEY, b:1645 in Providence, RI., she d:Sept. 09, 1954 in RI., & had seven I know of: 1- Joseph Jr., Sept. 26,1670 2- Thomas, Feb. 16, 1672, wed twice, Mary BLACKMAN,b:Abt.1874, & had seven: Joseph 1695, Thomas Jr. Abt.1697, Stephen 1699, John 1701, Abigail Abt.1703, Jonathon Abt.1705, & Mary Abt.1707. His second wife was Hannah SPRAGUE, b:Abt.1672. 3- Joseph II, Nov. 10, 1673 wed Lydia HARRINGTON or HERENDEN, b:Abt. 1675. 4- Mary, June 1676 5- James, Sept. 24, 1680 wed Elizabeth BLACKMAR, (she was the widow to his brother Thomas), & had four: James Jr., b:Abt.1710, John Abt. 1712, Nathaniel 1714, & Nathan 1728. 6- Lydia, April 26, 1683 7- Providence, 1685, died in infancy. these are the children & Granchildren of Thomas WILLIAMS & Mary BLACKMAN who wed: *Joseph WILLIAMS, same as above, b:1695, wed Mercy CARPENTER. *Thomas Jr., b:1697, wed Mary WATERMAN, b:March 23, 1705. *Stephen, b:1699, wed Jemima ?, & had three: Isaiah June15, 1738, Catharine April 28, 1739, & Jonathon May 20, 1741. *John, b:Abt. 1701, wed Wealtthean SHELDON, b:Abt. 1703. *Abigail, b:Abt. 1703, wed Charles DYER, b:March 22, 1697, & had seven: John Abt.1732, Phoebe Abt.1736, Dorcus (m) Abt.1740, Desire Abt.1741, Charles Jr., Nov.21, 1742, Abigail Abt. 1744, & Lillis,b:??. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Jonathon, b:May 20, 1741, in Douglas Worcester, Mass., son of Stephen WILLIAMS, & Jemima, wed Esther ?? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- children of Abigail WILLIAMS & Charles DYER that wed: John Dyer, b:Abt. 1732, in Cranston, Providence, RI., wed Ann WILLIAMS, b:Abt.1734,(wonder if they were kissing cousins.....lol). ; ) Phoebe DYER, b:Abt.1736, wed Benjamin THURBER, b:July 17 ,1734 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Dorcus DYER ,b:Abt.1740, in Cranston, Providence, RI., wed Joy LADD, b:Abt.1742. Desire DYER, b:Abt.1741, wed Job OLNEY in 1761, b:1739 in Lyndon, VT. Charles DYER, Jr., b: Nov.21,1742, in Cranston, Providence, RI., wed Phoebe PEARCE, b:Abt.1744 Abigail DYER, b:Abt.1744 in Cranston, Providence, RI., wed twice: John PAINE, b:Abt.1742, & Abraham BELKNAP, b:Abt.1742. Lillis DYER, b:??, in Cranston, Providence, RI., wed twice: James THOMAS, b:Abt.1778, & Daniel CAHOON, b:July 01, 1737, in Warwick, Kent, RI. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- children & Grandchildren of James WILLIAMS & Elizabeth BLACKMAR: Nathaniel WILLAIMS, b:1714, wed Anne HAWKINS, b:1719, & had eight: *Benjah 1742, * Frederick 1743, *James, June13, 1752, * Nathaniel Jr.,1755, *Bathsheba 1759, gender??, *Abner Abt.1761, *Rosanna 1763, & Lydia 1765. James, b:June 13, 1752, in Cranston, RI., wed Susannah ALLEN, b:Dec.02, 1759 still more to come! Teresa (Spokane, Wa.) Kapoonis59@aol.com ALDRICH ~ APPERSON ~ ASHTON ~ COGGESHALL ~ ENEAS ~ FRIES ~ JAMES ~ HALLICOLA ~ HOFFER ~ MCKAY ~ NAULT(H) ~ OLNEY ~ SMALL ~ TANNER ~ WHIPPLE ~ WILLIAMS

This is info I got from Momma: ? LEWIS, b:Abt.1890, wed Emma CUPPETT, b:Aft.1893. ?? LEWIS, b;Abt.1840, wed Carrie A. OLNEY, b:1842, d:1862, & had Nina LEWIS, b:1861. Lester LEWIS, b:Abt. 1890-1910, maybe the same Lewis as above?, wed Lenora HOPTOWIT, b:Abt. 1920, & had Andrew HOPTOWIT LEWIS, b:Abt.1940. Asenatha LEWIS, b:1790, wed Samuel ANGELL, b:March28,1792. Kenneth LEWIS wed Catherine Bernise SLOAN, listed info as private, they must still be alive & don't want to share that info, & had three: Kenneth LEWIS, Jr. ~ Peggy Sue LEWIS & Beverly Ann LEWIS. Jesse LEWIS, b:1750, wed Chloe OLNEY, b:1746, in Washington, RI. John LEWIS, b:Abt.1823 /1840, wed Mary OLNEY, b:1844, in 1871. Mary LEWIS, b:Abt.1930, wed Willard MATTESON, b:May 04, 1924, & had: Lynn Marie MATTESON, b:Sept.27, 1956, & Lucy Mae MATTESON, b:March 07,1959. Wanda LEWIS wed Merlyn Eugene RILEY, & had three so far: Alta Leona, Lola Marie, Merlyn Eugene Jr., & Trisha Irene, this info is listed as private also. Teresa (Spokane, Wa.) Kapoonis59@aol.com ALDRICH ~ APPERSON ~ ASHTON ~ COGGESHALL ~ ENEAS ~ FRIES ~ JAMES ~ HALLICOLA ~ HOFFER ~ MCKAY ~ NAULT(H) ~ OLNEY ~ SMALL ~ TANNER ~ WHIPPLE ~ WILLIAMS

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------430B5872D9BEEAFCFBEFA3E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------430B5872D9BEEAFCFBEFA3E8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ORWASCO-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from h6.mail.home.com ([24.0.95.41]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991130065749.EYDM20526.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@h6.mail.home.com> for <avogelpohl@mail.sttls1.wa.home.com>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:57:49 -0800 Received: from mx2-rwc.mail.home.com (mx2-rwc.mail.home.com [24.0.95.31]) by h6.mail.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA08181 for <avogelpohl@home.com>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.rootsweb.com (lists3.rootsweb.com [206.169.84.39]) by mx2-rwc.mail.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA19190 for <avogelpohl@home.com>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24454; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:10:18 -0800 Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:10:18 -0800 Message-ID: <384374CE.23B11ED0@home.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:55:10 -0800 From: Audrey Vogelpohl <avogelpohl@home.com> Reply-To: avogelpohl@home.com Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: ORWASCO-L@rootsweb.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ORWASCO] John Day County Resent-Message-ID: <Ixs-hB.A.59F.pZ4Q4@lists3.rootsweb.com> To: ORWASCO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ORWASCO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ORWASCO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/28 X-Loop: ORWASCO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ORWASCO-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Does anyone know who the person was that the John Day River/county/area was named after? Audrey Cox Vogelpohl Seattle, Washington ==== ORWASCO Mailing List ==== Good Oregon links can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/otlinks.html ============================== Discover your ancestors and trace your family tree today at Ancestry.com. You are invited to search our massive collection containing over 500 million records, in over 1800 databases. Visit http://ads04.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?16226.4 --------------430B5872D9BEEAFCFBEFA3E8--

Does anyone know who the person was that the John Day River/county/area was named after? Audrey Cox Vogelpohl Seattle, Washington

I'm in the process of putting together a little site for those of us who are on the Wasco Co. list, as well as anyone else who might have an interest in Wasco Co. I'd like it to sort of be our "listmembers' site" where we can go to exchange information, post queries, post data, and things like that. The site isn't intended to replace the GenWeb site by any means -- I only mean to fill in some gaps & make "our" site somewhat of a universal "rest stop" for Wasco Co. researchers. I've talked to Norma, the County Coordinator for the Wasco Co Genweb site, and she isn't in a position right now to be able to add things to her site there, so I thought maybe we could store some at our site & either make that an extra site or just give all the goodies to Norma when she's ready for them. Part of my goal is simply to have a URL that points to our list, so that if someone is searching for info about Wasco Co., they can find the list by coming to our site. As I said, I'm working on getting the site up & running right now. I'll be uploading the data I have & other info throughout the weekend, so that hopefully all the links will take people to something valuable. I'd really appreciate it if you guys would all send me your favorite Wasco Co or Oregon related links, to be posted on the "links" page. If you have any "hard data" like census transcriptions, marriage indexes, cemetery transcriptions & the like, it would also be great if you wanted to donate those to our new little site. If you go to the site shown below, you can see what I have in mind to put up on this site. If you can think of anything else that should be there, please let me know. If you contribute data to our site, you will have the option to contribute them to the GenWeb site when it's ready for updating, if you want to do that. I will not automatically give anything away that you contribute to this site. The copyright will remain yours & there will be a credit to that effect on anything you donate. You may un-contribute anything you've contributed to the site, at any time you desire to do so in the future. Wills, obituaries, whatever you can contribute, I'd love to have it there. I mean for this to be *our* site -- not mine -- so the more you contribute, the better it will be. For right now I have housed the site at the business site I'm involved in, hoping to bring the Wasco site a bit more traffic that way. As more is added both to the business site and to the Wasco Co. site, I will probably have to move it to some of the free space available on the 'net, since the business site is purchased space. I just thought it would be nice to start out with a site that's free of ad banners, popups, etc., and where it's likely to get some traffic from within the business site (once I have the links in place on the business site. To access the site directly, use this URL: http://www.historysavers.com/orwasco/ Down off my soapbox now...Happy holidays to you and your families. -- Cheri puny@mail.com --->>>^<<<--- Freebies for Gen. Addicts---> http://www.historysavers.com/

Looks to me like this one came only to me, but not to the whole list. I'm sending it on to the list so everyone gets a chance at it. --Cheri -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [ORWASCO] HURST, DAVIS, GRAY & others Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:26:22 -0800 From: ron stone <blueoak@ix.netcom.com> To: Cheri <puny@mail.com> Cheri, and other listers, Maybe we can stir the list or something. My concerns in the Wasco list start with my great grandfather, WILLIAM PITCHFORD STONE. William's dad was named WILEY STONE. He was from S. C. Wiley and wife, Candas, were in GA, Forsyth Co when they had, by the 1850 census, Wesley, James, Francis Asbury and William Pitchford. William P was in the 28th Alabama Inf. They were pretty busy. Wiley and the other sons were all in separate CSA units. William P married Sarah Elizabeth Christofer and by 1900 in Indian Terr. Wm was a widower. On his farm for that census were shown his son, William Wiley Stone (my grandfather) and Clarence S Stone (age 2) my father. We think Wiley is buried somewhere in Boone, Searcy, area as he was in Indian Terr. when he died. William P Stone went on to eastern Oregon , and then more westward to near the Dalles. His town of Dufur apparently started by being a stop the first night on the way south from the Dalles. A very pretty little area, even today. William P lived on in this area, where in his 90s he collapsed in the fields. I personally spoke to a surviving pallbearer who lived on the same, Wolf Run Rd, where William P spent his last days on the farm of his grandson, Albert Hancock. I have several obits and a death certificate telling us that he is buried in the Odd Fellows Cem. People have told me that this is the one on the hills on the right side, coming south from the Dalles and just before the turn off into Dufur. It has been scoured on several visits there ..... no Wm P. !! A local resident in the area has been trying to help find the gravesite. I would like for him to have a "Stone". My local helper thinks he may have been the last surviving confederate vet in Oregon at the time he died in 1938. His span: Stone Mtn, GA in 1844 to Dufur , Ore (close enough to Mt Hood) in 1938. ron in CA At 09:48 PM 11/17/99 -0800, you wrote: >Howdy all you listers! Did you all lose your "voices" the past few days? >I thought we were on a roll there for a while, with all the activity we >had. Let's try that again. I liked it. <G> > >Since I never did get around to posting *my* surnames for Wasco Co., I >thought I'd do that right now. > >My earliest ancestors to Oregon were James & Malinda (DAVIS) HURST. They >came in from Gasconade Co., MO in 1851, going first to Linn Co. Malinda >was in her last trimester of pregnancy with their first child when they >got to Oregon, so she had a rather unique pregnancy experience the first >time around. I don't think they planned it that way. When they got to >Wasco Co., they took the Barlow Trail to cut around Mt. Hood & get to >where they settled at Sodaville in Linn Co., but Malinda was too >pregnant to go over Barlow Trail because it was so rough. Their >solution? She & a couple of other women in the party were put back into >the same wagon box they had floated the Columbia River in, and they >floated down the river, meeting up with the men on the other side of Mt. >Hood. > >James & Malinda stayed in Linn Co. from 1851 until sometime between 1854 >and 1860. They settled a Donation Land Claim in January of 1854 in Linn >Co. Then, leaving family still in Linn Co., for reasons unknown they >came back down the trail to Wasco Co., settling right at the Wasco Co. >end of the Barlow Trail. That's where they lived out their days & raised > >their family. That area is known as the "other" 15-Mile area. The >15-Mile that is on the map is just off of the freeway, about 15 miles >(whaddya know) *east* of The Dalles. But the Hurst's 15-Mile is the one >that is that far *south* of The Dalles as you're heading toward Maupin. >That's lesson #1 for anyone whose family came from one of the many >x-mile settlements: there are some in each direction. At any rate, I'd >love to hear from anyone who has good historical data about the area >south of The Dalles, and also from anyone who had family go to Linn Co. >or near the coast and then come back to Wasco Co later. > >James & Malinda's children were: Joseph, Jane, Susan, Emma, Uriah >(Jack), James, Malinda (Millie), Sina, Benjamin, William, Melissa, >Nancy, Minerva and Rufus (Marion). They were all born between 1851 and >1880 and about half of them stayed in the area. > >My direct line is through Susan HURST above, who married James Jackson >GRAY in 1876. He was from TN (as was the elder James HURST). They had 10 >children, most of whom stayed in the area near The Dalles. One of those >was my grandpa, John Elmer GRAY. Susan remarried after James Gray's >death in 1900. First she married L.S. "Doc" Covey, but they divorced, >and then she married a sweetheart of a man named William Brown, with >whom she is buried at Friend, OR (which is between 15-mile and The >Dalles on that road going south). > >Any scrap of information would be appreciated greatly. I'm heavily into >the historical aspects of this family's journey and their Oregon >lifestyle, so all types of info are wonderful. I would also like to >learn more about William Brown's family if anyone might know which >family that would be. I know he did have family near The Dalles >somewhere. > >Cheri (whew!) >puny@mail.com >--->>>^<<<--- >Freebies for Gen. Addicts---> http://www.historysavers.com/ > > > > > >==== ORWASCO Mailing List ==== >This is a friendly list. Therefore, NO FLAMING or rude behavior in any form >will be tolerated. Offenders will be cheerfully removed from the list on their >FIRST offense! Play nice, so we can all have FUN... > >============================== >FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! >Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Howdy all you listers! Did you all lose your "voices" the past few days? I thought we were on a roll there for a while, with all the activity we had. Let's try that again. I liked it. <G> Since I never did get around to posting *my* surnames for Wasco Co., I thought I'd do that right now. My earliest ancestors to Oregon were James & Malinda (DAVIS) HURST. They came in from Gasconade Co., MO in 1851, going first to Linn Co. Malinda was in her last trimester of pregnancy with their first child when they got to Oregon, so she had a rather unique pregnancy experience the first time around. I don't think they planned it that way. When they got to Wasco Co., they took the Barlow Trail to cut around Mt. Hood & get to where they settled at Sodaville in Linn Co., but Malinda was too pregnant to go over Barlow Trail because it was so rough. Their solution? She & a couple of other women in the party were put back into the same wagon box they had floated the Columbia River in, and they floated down the river, meeting up with the men on the other side of Mt. Hood. James & Malinda stayed in Linn Co. from 1851 until sometime between 1854 and 1860. They settled a Donation Land Claim in January of 1854 in Linn Co. Then, leaving family still in Linn Co., for reasons unknown they came back down the trail to Wasco Co., settling right at the Wasco Co. end of the Barlow Trail. That's where they lived out their days & raised their family. That area is known as the "other" 15-Mile area. The 15-Mile that is on the map is just off of the freeway, about 15 miles (whaddya know) *east* of The Dalles. But the Hurst's 15-Mile is the one that is that far *south* of The Dalles as you're heading toward Maupin. That's lesson #1 for anyone whose family came from one of the many x-mile settlements: there are some in each direction. At any rate, I'd love to hear from anyone who has good historical data about the area south of The Dalles, and also from anyone who had family go to Linn Co. or near the coast and then come back to Wasco Co later. James & Malinda's children were: Joseph, Jane, Susan, Emma, Uriah (Jack), James, Malinda (Millie), Sina, Benjamin, William, Melissa, Nancy, Minerva and Rufus (Marion). They were all born between 1851 and 1880 and about half of them stayed in the area. My direct line is through Susan HURST above, who married James Jackson GRAY in 1876. He was from TN (as was the elder James HURST). They had 10 children, most of whom stayed in the area near The Dalles. One of those was my grandpa, John Elmer GRAY. Susan remarried after James Gray's death in 1900. First she married L.S. "Doc" Covey, but they divorced, and then she married a sweetheart of a man named William Brown, with whom she is buried at Friend, OR (which is between 15-mile and The Dalles on that road going south). Any scrap of information would be appreciated greatly. I'm heavily into the historical aspects of this family's journey and their Oregon lifestyle, so all types of info are wonderful. I would also like to learn more about William Brown's family if anyone might know which family that would be. I know he did have family near The Dalles somewhere. Cheri (whew!) puny@mail.com --->>>^<<<--- Freebies for Gen. Addicts---> http://www.historysavers.com/

Insight into his personality and beliefs: 1. Although nearly 3/4 Indian was raised as a white man and had a good education. 2. Had an infinity for language - spoke all the Indian dialects of the day which made him useful as a scout for the Army, as an interpreter at the Treaty of Walla Walla and useful in the trial of the Whitman murderers, and a physician to the Warm Springs and Umatilla Indian Reservations. Addressed the centennial of the discovery and meaning of the Columbia River in 1892 in the Chinook jargon - delivered a paper on the condition of the Indians at the mouth of the Columbia. 3. Was a gentleman, kindly & courteous. Many accounts mention his good manners, courtly and manner, kindness and good dress. 4. Was interested and pursued what was right and fair. When loss of property occurred 1855 he pursued replacement costs from the US government which others had received Was successful. Eventually got $19,000. When denied by US District Court the right to vote in 1871 (because of Indian and British heritage) he pursued and 02-23 -1872 a bill was passed in the US Senate extending citizenship rights to persons born in the Territory of Oregon previous to 1846. 5. Was proud of his heritage both as an Indian and as a white man. He often spoke at meetings: historical societies, missionaries societies, medical meetings, etc., etc. about about his background and history and also the general history of the Northwest. He was extremely knowledgeable about Northwest history. 6. He was helpful to the Indians. He accepted their offer to come to Umatilla County. He interpreted. He spoke on their behalf for the education of their children. They wished the children to be trained by Protestant Americans rather than by the foreign Catholic priests at the Mission. He wrote many letters to government officials, teachers, etc., to get his set up. 7. Although his background on his Father's side was Scottish, and he was raised in the Hudson Bay Company environment he was and an American and proud to be an American. He attended Whitman's Medical School. His Aunt, in England, was disappointed that he wouldn't be coming to study there, and wrote that Oregon would be eventually British. So he had this British influence. The American influence won over. He served in the Army. He fought the hostile Indians in the Territory. His daughter, Leila reports that everyday when she was a child he raised and lowered the flag in the yard as children stood at attention. His great interest in being allowed to vote shows this strong sense of citizenship also as was his desire to legitimatize this citizenship and his legal pursuit of citizenship. 8. He had a sense of adventure. He served as a volunteer in the Army. He took off on lengthy journeys on horseback to unknown areas. His brother Donald joined up with Kit Carson and a wild west show. He considered joining this for awhile as a young man and was written by Buffalo Bill who dissuaded from joining. He lived in a wild dangerous time. Fear of Indian attack was a fact of life in the frontier and he chose to make the frontier his home. 9. He was a Christian. He encouraged the Protestant missionaries to set up churches in Pendleton. 10. He was a good physician. He worked at very little pay to heal the sick in the frontier. He spoke of the need to be constantly learning and studying medicine.

Brief History of His life: (William McKay) (note that he is reared by his Grandmother Margaret & his Step Grandfather Dr. John McLoughlin). 1. Reared at Fort Vancouver by Grandparents Margaret & Dr. John McLoughlin. 2. Educated at Fort Vancouver by scholars. 3. Traveled with Jason Lee to Fairfield Medical school in N.Y. in 1838. Tom, convinced by Marcus Whitman to be trained as American doctor because Oregon would be part of USA. Went to Whitman's former school instead of schools in Scotland. 4. 1843 returned to Oregon with Hudson Bay Brigade. 5. Operated a trading post at Oregon City. 6. 1849 to California to participate in gold rush. 7. 1851 asked by Umatilla chiefs (at trial of Cayuse who murdered Whitman's in 1847) to come to Umatilla to operate trading post. (spoke their tongue) 8. Stayed there (trading post at where McKay Creek (Houtamini) flows into Umatilla River) until Indian uprising of 1855. 9. Uprising result of unrest due to many settlers (gold rush in area) and dissatisfaction with Walla Walla Treaty in which McKay participated in. McKay property and holdings burned. 10. Married Margaret Campbell in 1856 in The Dalles. He had met her at Fort Wallula (Hudson Bay Post) which was destroyed. Her brother in-law James Sinclair was killed by Indians. She escaped to The Dalles. She was a child of HBC as had William been. Similar bcakground, most recent move from Red River Country. 11. Warm Springs Indian Scouts - McKay headed up the scouts. Successful campaign for U.S. Government against the Snakes & Piutes. 12. Appointed U.S. Indian Reservation physician and served from 1861 - 1865. 13. Appointed Umatilla Indian Reservation physician in 1865 and had private practice also. Was asked to choose site for new Fort Walla Walla. Was asked to name the little towns in the Blue Mountains. 14. Participated in the formation of town of Pendleton. Donated land to the city. 15. Spoke on behalf of the tribes for their education of their children. 16. Lived in Pendleton from 1865 until his death in 1893 at age of 69. Teresa (Spokane, Wa.) Kapoonis59@aol.com

Presented to Umatilla Co., Genealogy Society 04-02-1991, at Pendleton Public Library, by Kay Carlson. Genealogy: William McKay, b: March 18,1824 in Astoria. d: January 02,1893. Parents - Thomas McKay & Timee: *Thomas - Hudson Bay C., employee, scout & later farmer, traveled to Astoria with his Father in 1811, alone at Astoria at age fourteen. *Timee - daughter of Chief ComComly of Chinnok Tribe. Grandparents - Alexander McKay & Margaret/Marguerite Wadin: *Alexander - partner of John Jacob Astor (Pacific Fur Co.), came to Oregon on Tonquin in 1811 & died when ship attacked by Indians in Nootka Sound off Vancouver Island. Alexander born in Scotland. Moved to Canada with United Empire Loyalists. Explorer - with Alexander McKenzie on trip across continent. *Margaret - part Chippewa & Father Swiss Fur Trapper. Later remarried Dr. John McLoughlin & moved to Astoria six years later. (Renamed Fort Georg by British & headquarters later moved to Fort Vancouver). Great Grandparents - Donald McKay & Elizabeth Kennedy - from Scotland. Teresa (Spokane, Wa) ; ) Kapoonis59@aol.com

RECOMMEND HIGHLY: "An Arrow in the Earth; General Joel Palmer and the Indians of Oregon, by Terence O'Donnell. O'Donnell served Oregon Historical Society as director at one time and did a bang-up job of putting this book together. It appears to be very carefully researched and documented. Palmer, Barlow (myancestor) and Olney were all in the 1845 wagon train together --Palmer wrote a diary about this trip-- [[His diary is used for the Wojcik book and the one about the "Meek cutoff" too]]. Review of the book: "reveals the compelling drama of Oregon's early Indian-white relations, focusing, particularly, on the Indian wars of the 1850s. Central throughout this remarkable account of racial unrest is the stoic Joel Palmer, a forthright man who, as Oregon's superintendent of Indian Affairs, sought to protect the Indians from degradation and abuse. Although O'Donnell concentrates on this difficult struggle between Indian and white, he strives to illuminate every facet of Oregon at thsi time; from its economy, development, and culture; to the maelstrom of Oregon politics, the heated "missionary wars" between Catholics and Methodists, and the horrifying episode whose reverberations would still be felt as Palmer began his superintendency--the infamous Whitman massacre. p. 278 Interesting: Palmer appointed Nathan Olney about 1854 and then [about 1856] [Palmer's] "first act on returning to Dayton was to fire subagent Nathan Olney, whose conduct both at The Dalles and at Port Orford he had long questioned. Palmer laid out the charge in a letter to Manypenny[see ref]: "dissipation, gambling and debauchery among the native women. Even worse, Olney had taken an Indian from the Port Orford jail and handed him over to the mob to be lynched." REF: Letter from Joel Palmer to George Manypenny, reel 6, Oregon Superintendency Records, 24 July 1856,176. Absalom F. Hedges is also in this book, and Absalom F. Hedges married Samuel K. Barlow's youngest daughter. daughter.************************************************************************************************** ANOTHER BOOK: A Guide to the Indian Tribes of the Pacific Northwest, by Robert H. Ruby and John A. Brown, foreword by Roland W. Force; rev. edition, Univ. of Oklahoma Press,, Norman, Publishing Division of the Univ. c. 1992. In Index is Wascos : p. 54 -57 SUBJECT: Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs Reservation -----Origin in Treaty of June 25, 1855 -----WASCOS included with many other tribes WASCOS, it says, of the KIGALTWALLA, DOG RIVER, AND DALLES BANDS. p. 58-63 SUBJECT: Confederated Tribes of the Yakima Indian Reservation of Washington ----Origin Yakima Treaty signed in the WAlla Walla valley on June 9, 1855 Chapter Headings: Location; Numbers; History; Government Organization & Claims; Contemporary Life & Culture; Special Events; Suggested Readings. I looked up KIGALTWALLA: appears P. 265 Under Heading: WATLALA (Upper Chinookan Division of Chinookan) "The Watlalas (Or Wahlalas), also known as the CASCADE INDIANS, were called the SHALALA NATION by the America explorers Merriwether Lewis & William Clark, who met them in 1805-06. Clark describes them as living in three subdivisions: the YEHEHUHS, above the Cascades of the Columbia River; the CLAHCLELLAHS, below those rapids; and the CLAHCLELLAHS on the Columbia at Beacon Rock, a few miles upstream from present-day Skamania, WA. In fact there were as many as six subdivisions of the WATLALAs living where the Columbia River breaks through the Cascade Mountains. ........ Under the designation Wahlalas the Watlalas signed with Kalapuyan tribes a treaty with Oregon Superintendent of Indian Affairs Joel Palmer on January 22, 1855 (10 Stat.1143, ratified March 3, 1855), ceding to the United States their lands WEST of the Middle Cascades of the Columbia. Under the designation "KIGALTWALLAS," they ceded their lands EAST of the Middle Cascades in a Treaty of June 25, 1855, that the United States effected with the trives of "MIDDLE OREGON." " In 1855 the Watlalas numbered about 70, nearly twice as many as in the 1830s, when the epidemic had raged. In March 1865, they were lured into anti-american hostilities, apparently by a Klickitat-Yakima Indian coalition. Ironically, despite their pleas of innocence, some watlaslas were subsequently hanged by the victorious American military. With theh WASCOS they were estimated to have been 3,200 in 1780, 2,800 in 1805-1806, and 1,400 in 1812. Today no one speaks their language and the TRIBE IS EXTINCT. Suggested Reading: Frederick Webb Hodge, Handbook of American Indians North of Mexico; part 2 (Washington D.C: Government Printing Office, 1910). Teresa (Spokane, Wa.) Kapoonis59@aol.com

Hello listers, This was sent to me by a friend: friend:************************************************************************************** The Name Was Olney, by Roscoe Sheller, 1965, Yakima, WA; Franklin Press Book is termed "less scholarly" by some; however, much of his work was done through interview of family and their papers, etc... which since 1965 family history is considered by scholarly than it used to be. Contains useful information! - ------------------------------- Following outline from, *The Yakimas; a critical bibliography*, by Helen H. Schuster; published for Newberry Library, Indiana Press, Bloomington, IND, [page 78] Nathan Olney married daughter of a Wasco chief; about 1847 had a tradingpost at the Dalles [ note don't think they mean THE DALLES: I had it figured near Ft. Cascade --now underwater-- near Bridge of the Gods and, of course there is also plain Dalles] [[PLEASE someone correct me]] 1854 Nathan Olney was an Indian agent fr Oregon Territory; served militia during the Yakima wars; [probably the original founder of large Olney family residing on the Yakima Reservation today]. [1965] "Sheller provides details on the killing of the Walla Walla chief Peu-Peu-mox-mox while he was a prisoner of the Oregon Volunteers during the Yakima War of 1855, affixing the 'honor' (or blame, depending on where your sympathies lie) directly upon Olney, a curious bit of historic notoriety little noted in the literature. [[SHUSTER suggested also that more research be done on this]]. Sheller also offered an interesting and usually under-represented account of the vicissitudes of Indian-White marriage. In his enthusiasm for his Olney character, Shelle[r] sometimes treats lesser men in a condescending tone, and his story is further marred by some inaccuracies. "A biography of a different nature was written by ESTHER WARREN from material collected by her mother, who lived for fifty years among the Wishram-Wasco people at the Cascades. This is a warm and sympathetic recounting of the life of an Indian woman, Taswatha, and of the changes in the life of her family as they made adjustments to the coming of the Whites. OLNEY searchers should read Donna Wojcik's book; Brazen Overlanders of 1845. Finally -Suggest those interested look up the surname OLNEY in the archives for this OREGON ROOTS LIST.

Hello listers, please excuse this email to everyone, I seemed to have lost Cheri's email address. Cheri wrote>>>>>>Have you had any contact with Norma, who runs the GenWeb page for Wasco Co? *******snip******* Hi Cheri! Well I'm going through my files of over 300 emails, & printing what I want to keep from it............... finally bought a new ink cartridge ; ),when I noticed that Norma has been in touch with me.......lol! She has given me wonderful advise as to go about my maternal root digging, & the learning of history through Biographies, now if I only knew where some were......lol! Norma has given me her web address, & told me of another woman that has undertaken the Olney research. I'm thrilled to learn the good along with the bad, as I'm sure, any family who has documented their history so thoroughly as they have, would have at least some incidents. She told me she hasn't finished as yet, & is going to contact the libary in Toppenish to try & obtain a copy of the Who Are You Who Am I book, by Daniel Hoptowit Olney. My family is registered with the Yakama Nation, & Daniel is an Uncle, his GrandFather being Franklin Peirce Olney, & mine Nathan Hale Olney. Cheri wrote>>>>>Well, until you started talking scorpions & Bull snakes, I was all ready to suggest that you & I go clean up that cemetery in Yakima next spring. I think I'll pass on that now. Bugs & snakes just give me the heebie jeebies. I admit it -- I'm a woosie that way. I'm happy to walk a cemetery to get data, but I don't think I'm cut out for clearing brush like that! :-) *******snip******* ROFL!!! Okay Cheri, I won't blame you or have any hard feelings while I'm up there on the reservation in White Swan, cleaning away, & thinking of you all safe, taking your notes from the tombstones.........LOL!!! Just teasing ; ) Cheri wrote>>>>>>I remember very clearly that not too many years ago, there was an Olney business in Pendleton, and I think it was a funeral home. What a coup that would be to be related to an undertaker *******snip******* I heard from someone in our family years ago, that an Olney donated 155. some odd acres to a town in Oregon for cemetery purposes, & if I remember right, there's not one Olney interred there? Ick! an undertaker...*shudder*...lol. Cheri wrote>>>>>>Take care, and let me know when you plan a trip to the main Spokane library. Maybe we can meet in the lobby & have a cup o' joe. *****snip***** Hopefully soon I'll have a little time to do something like that, would be great to meet you! I'm pretyy green to all this research, so everything I've learned so far has really stacked in notes & records, so I'm very busy for now, at least until I don't feel the drive to have to do this....lol! I'm sure I'll have a few days off soon, almost finished with entering info from my records into Family Tree Maker software. Then I'll need to search their data-bases. Take Care! & All my best to all! Teresa (Spokane, Wa) ; ) Kapoonis59@aol.com

Well, Teresa, I guess I wasn't thinking very clearly when I emailed you that census data. I should have explained. This will be a good time & place to do that, me thinks, so everyone can be aware of that possibility... The USGenWeb archives are one of the most valuable tools on the web. Although I knew about the archives, until that night I had no idea anything had ever been uploaded for Wasco County. Some counties have gobs of stuff in their archives. There isn't a link on the Wasco Co GenWeb site that will take you to the archives, so I never thought to go directly to the archives & check on Wasco Co stuff. I expected that if there was anything in the archives, there would be a link. I actually found the link on the Umatilla Co GenWeb page, but so you guys don't have to go through all that, I'll just give you a link to the main USGenWeb archives page. At the top, there is a link that lets you search the archives holdings by state (search for a specific name, which I just did for OLNEY and found TONS of stuff!), or scroll down to find the state you're interested in browsing. This is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ Or, for the impatient, here is the exact Wasco Co. archives address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/or/wasfiles.htm Teresa, I didn't look through *all* of the census files that night, so your Thomas might be found in another precinct, or he might have left the area. It's a pretty sure thing, though, that he was out of the house already in 1860. I'm not sure if you meant you did or didn't understand what all the numbers etc in the listing meant, so I'll go over that here, too: Fifteen Mile,605,2435, Olney, Nathan, 35,M,W,Farmer,2000,300,Pennsylvania, Fifteen Mile is the precinct (I believe this is the 15-mile that is east of The Dalles along the highway, but there is another 15-mile *south* of The Dalles along the road to Maupin). 605,2435 are the census page & household #. After the person's name is age, sex, race (Nathan is white, Annette is I for Indian), occupation, Real Property value, Personal Property value, birthplace, and then a place to indicate if a child was a student at that time or not. There you have it. Since the Wasco Co census entries aren't indexed, you'll probably want to run a search at the URL I gave above for the states, but be sure to remember to check for spelling oddities, too. (note the new address for Cheri) Cheri puny@mail.com ************** -->> http://www.historysavers.com <<-- ************** ************** __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com

In a message dated 11/7/99 12:20:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, Kapoonis59 writes: << There are two versions of how he came to be at the Dalles, not sure where to find this info now, maybe someone here knows? >> Forgot the second version: There is a book, forget which one right now, that tells of Nathan Olney rafting the Columbia, & wrecking near the Dalles, Oregon, where he met the Wasco Indians. Now it's all for now, Teresa (Spokane, Wa.) Kapoonis59@aol.com

In a message dated 11/7/99 10:21:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, norie@localaccess.com writes: << It looks like you have an Indian name in your family. (The Dalles was in Wasco County). My ancestor also arrived in Oregon in 1843 on that first big wagon train. Is Olney German or ? >> *****snip***** Hi Norma & any listers interested, Nathan my GGG Grandfather, is accredited as being the first white settler in the area now known as the Dalles. He is of English decent, many many books document the Olney history in detail, some from 1066 to darn near present. There are two versions of how he came to be at the Dalles, not sure where to find this info now, maybe someone here knows? The first version, & it's documented on a monument at his grave, at Fort Simcoe, White Swan, Wa. State. Not sure who put the monument there, or if it's an actual fact. It states is he was a "Member of the Barlow Wagon Train West 1843." First white-<(this is stated in a book)."settler to the Dalles 1847, Organized volunteers to avenge the Ward Massacre, protect the Immagrant Trains, & Pony Express. Intrepid leader Cayuse & Yakima Indian Wars. U.S. Agent Oregon Territory 1854 - 1859." , etc. I have pictures on CD of his original headstone, which is a plain three sided rock, his marble tombstone made by his family, & the monument. If any one is interested, email me privately & I will send you the pictures. Nathan had two wives. The first is Ahatin, she is widow to Chief Cha-la-let, Wasco tribe. Ahatin & Chief Cha-la-let had a daughter, natural name Twawy, wow.......I can't remember her full name, & will have to find it. These two have a son, Charles Olney, my GG Grandfather. Nathan's second wife was Twawy, aka Annette<(name given her by Nathan), Hallicola. These two have several children, that I will post in pieces as I get my records in order. The books I know of are "Who Are You & Who Am I", by Daniel Hoptowit Olney. I obtained it from the Yakama Heritage & Cultural Center on the reservation in Toppenish, Wa. The library may get it from the museum there & copy it for you, about a 95 page book. Their address is : YAKIMA NATION LIBRARY & CULTURAL CENTER P.O. BOX 151 TOPPENISH, WA. 98948 (509) 865 - 2800, EXT #6 OR " 865 - 5121, EXT #721 OR FAX 509 - 865 - 6101 HEAD LIBRARIAN: COLLEEN M. VEOMETT Early Rhode Island, A Social History of the People, by William B. Weeden, A. M. & A Chronicle of My Family, by Lucile R. Olney. I wish I knew where to get these books, as the later two were a gift from my distant Olney cousin. If someone is interested, email me & I will ask her send the addresses to obtain these books. I know there's more out there. That's all for now, Teresa (Spokane, Wa) ; )

Hi Cheri & listers, Thanks for the info........but I don't understand what it means.....lol! Is there a web address for where you found this? Nathan is my GGG Grandfather, & was the first white settler in the Dalles of Oregon, 1843, the same year of the Barlow Wagon Trail I believe. He didn't use the trail, but rafted the Columbia, & wrecked in the area now known as the Dalles. you wrote>>> I just found this in the archives.Did you know about these already? This was the 1860 Wasco Co census, 15-mile precinct:Fifteen Mile,605,2435, Olney, Annette, 22,F,I,Oregon, Fifteen Mile,605,2435, Olney, Franklin, 7,M,W,Oregon, Fifteen Mile,605,2435, Olney, Melvina, 4,F,W,Oregon, Fifteen Mile,605,2435, Olney, Nathan, 35,M,W,Farmer,2000,300,Pennsylvania, Fifteen Mile,605,2435, Olney, Wm, 2,M,W,Oregon, snip********** My decendants are: Thomas OLNEY & Mary SMALL Epenetus OLNEY & Mary WHIPPLE John OLNEY & Rachell COGGESHELL Stephen l OLNEY & ? Stephen ll OLNEY & Martha ALDRICH William OLNEY & Charlotte TANNER Nathan OLNEY & Ahatin (Ehatinsh) HALLICOLA Charles OLNEY & JuliaAnn ENEAS Marguerite 'Maggie' OLNEY & Frederick HOFFER. Happy Hunting! Teresa (Spokane, Wa.) ; )

Thanks for all that great information, Charles! It's especially good to know that I didn't just imagine that the newspaper goes back as far as the 1880s. :-) I'll give them a call this next week to see what they have to offer on interlibrary loan, for those of us who can't get there for a while. By the way, I thought I would just take this opportunity to tell everyone that I'm planning a fairly comprehensive research visit in The Dalles area once we get past winter (I'm in Spokane, WA and don't travel much by car when the snow flies, at least not long distance travel). If you all want to decide over the winter what it is that is too hard or impossible to get without having someone IN the area, I'll be happy to fulfill some research requests for list members when I go there. I'll spend most of my time at the courthouse & library, but I'll also be going as far south as Maupin to take cemetery photos & such, so hopefully I can help somebody out along the way, too. That reminds me: here is a site that you can use to see what can be found where. If you've never used this site, it's a little bit confusing at first. It is: http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/vital.html The site is the *state* site that lists what records they *do* have at the state archives. Sometimes they list what you can find at the county level itself, and sometimes they don't. My experience has been that most of the old records do exist if you're willing to dig through musty courthouse files to get them, and willing to spend a considerable amount of time exploring all the indexes & such. Eventually, you can probably find what you're looking for, so don't be discouraged if it isn't listed on the State's page as something they know is at the county level. There are old birth registers, even copies of the birth records themselves, that can be found at the county courthouse but were not filed with the state because it was before the state took over that particular job. Same for marriages & everything else. They do exist. The ones that are listed as being in the state archives can be copied by them & sent to you by mail, with a bill enclosed. There's a link from the site that will take you to a search area to see if your ancestor has records listed. They do a good job of digging the records out for you, but you need to be aware that if you don't specify what your limit is on cost, they might find more than you bargained for & send it to you with the bill. Estate records & many others can go on for dozens of pages, and while the archives are good, they aren't cheap... Cheri thelittlewonder@earthlink.net | 'Genies' are here---> http://www.historysavers.com/

http://www.wasco-history.r9esd.k12.or.us/map.html I grew up in Mosier. Bruce Preston

The main library is the Wasco County library, I think. It is at 722 Court St and phone is (541) 296-2815I was there two weeks ago going through back issues of the Chronicle. All back issues are on microfilm and several other weekly papers. The Chronicle dates to the 1880s I think. I was looking in the 1920s. The library is under repair and is open from 3pm to 8:30pm, T to F and 10am to 6pm on Saturday. If you know the date you are searching for the Chronicle will let you look at the original papers. But they will not allow extensive use. Chuck Charles K. Wilber University of Notre Dame (219) 631-5168 http://www.nd.edu:80/~cwilber