This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raysal_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.oregon.counties.umatilla/899/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to get COSTS and PROCEDURES for ordering obits of a mother and her son who lived and died in Umatilla Co., OREGON. Son = Lloyd Randol Koll b 21 Nov 1902 California d 6 Jul 1963 Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon His mother: Cora A. "Kollie" Randol b 2 Jan 1880 Colorado [probably El Paso Co., CO(?)] d 9 May 1974 Milton- Freewater, Umatilla, Oregon I was thankful to find them BOTH posted to Find-a-Grave as buried in: Olney Cem. - Pendleton, Umatilla Co., Oregon ! It "appears" that ordering copies of Death Certificates in Oregon requires a death be 50 years prior to the request and uncertified copies for genealogical purposes are not encouraged/provided. IS THIS THE CASE? Disappointedly, I am resorting to PLAN B = OBITS. I want to determine who Lloyd's father was, as well as, glean any other tidbits of RANDOL history as may be available for Lloyd and his mother. Cora A. RANDOL was d/o John Hancock Randol [1849-1933] & Rebecca Jennie Dudley [1857-1888] Cora's parents had at least 7 children together - only 1 did not reach adulthood. Cora's fathered remarried after his wife's death and had at least 12 additional children. John Hancock Randol m 5 Jul 1895 Louisa Elizabeth Haltom. BELOW are the cut&paste abstracts of records I have been able to locate for mother [Cora RANDOL Koll] and her son [Lloyd Randol Koll]: ========================================== 1900 US Federal Census - Cholame, Monterey, California Name: Cora A Randall Age: 20 Birth Date: Jan 1880 Birthplace: Colorado Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Cousin Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Missouri George Harlan 40 Nancy Harlan 60 [Nancy was John Hancock RANDOL's sister.] John A Harlan 36 Cora A Randall 20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1910 - WHERE WERE THEY ??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1920 US Federal Census - San Francisco Assembly District 32, San Francisco, California Name: Cora Koll [NOTE:"Wait?tress" -HOTEL] Age: 40 Birth Year: abt 1880 Birthplace: Colorado Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Widowed Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Missouri Home Owned: Rent Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Cora Koll 40 Lloyd Koll 17 b CA Father b:Kansas Mother b:Colorado ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cora's father's 1933 OBIT had Cora Koll living "Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MIGHT THIS BE THE SAME WOMAN ??????? 1930 US Federal Census - Burlingame, San Mateo, California Name: Cora A Koll Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1880 Birthplace: Colorado Race: White Marital Status: Divorced Relation to Head of House: Roomer Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Missouri Occupation: COOK RESTAURANT Household Members: Name Age Cora A Koll 50 Vance R Webster 44 Dorothy M Holbrook 30 Angus W Mc Millan 28 James Bongas 35 Eugene G Saicawald 18 Fermin Estoesta 24 Joe Caces 20 John Cane 59 Yon Ben 28 Woo Wallace 46 Santiago V Marinas 17 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008 Name: Cora Koll Age: 95 Birth Date: Jan 1879 Death Date: 9 May 1974 Death Place: Umatilla Certificate: 74-08226 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Social Security Death Index Name: Cora Koll SSN: 543-10-8245 Last Residence: 97862 Milton Freewater, Umatilla, OR, USA Born: 2 Jan 1880 Died: May 1974 State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Find A Grave Memorial# 66439396 Cora "Kollie" Koll Birth: 1879 Death: May 9, 1974 Burial: Olney Cemetery, Pendleton, Umatilla County, OR, USA Plot: Block 35 Lot 29 Grave 1 Created by: Dan & Barbara [THANK YOU, Dan & Barbara !] Record added: Mar 03, 2011 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1930 US Federal Census - Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon Name: Lloyd Koll Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1903 Birthplace: California Marital Status: Married Occupation: Fireman - City Spouse's Name: Dorothy M Koll = Waitress - Cafe Father's Birthplace: CA [NOTE: I don't think this is right] Mother's Birthplace: CA [NOTE: I don't think this is right] Occupation: Lloyd Koll 27 m@25 Dorothy M Koll 23 m@21 [NOTE: Therefore, m abt 1928] [NOTE: WHat was Dorothy's maiden name? Did they have children?] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008 Name: Lloyd R Koll Age: 60 Birth Date: abt 1903 Death Date: 6 Jul 1963 Death Place: Umatilla Certificate: 10468 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Find A Grave Memorial# 66439411 Lloyd Randol Koll Birth: Nov. 21, 1902 Death: Jul. 6, 1963 Burial: Olney Cemetery, Pendleton, Umatilla County, OR, USA Plot: Block 35 Lot 16 Grave 5 Created by: Dan & Barbara Record added: Mar 03, 2011 ================================================ Any advice on aquiring more details on Lloyd & Coa will be greatly appreciated, Sally RANDOL-Hardy RANDOL Researcher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.