March 2 is the DAY the Rootsweb mailing lists will be disabled. NO postings, no subscriptions, no unsub-cription, etc The only  thing that will be preserved is - messages that had been posted from the beginning of this list until March 1. To continue? Go to the Groups.io the List to join is: https://oregon-genealogy.groups.io/g/main scroll down to see blue button "Join this Group" (this is the fastest way to subscribe) or scroll further to subscription section. Once joined, you can adjust your email preferences. Be sure to list your name next to your email address. W. David Samuelsen

What are the lists that this one is replacing? Gayle > On January 13, 2020 at 12:34 PM W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: > > > Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb > will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing > emails or accept incoming emails.  Additionally, administration tools > will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists > will be put into an archival state.  Administrators may save the emails > in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will > remain available and searchable on RootsWeb > > In light of this, new list is up and running as consolidated list with > other counties included. > > https://groups.io/g/Oregon-Genealogy > > Scroll down to blue tag "Join this Group" > > Groups.io was developed by the man and his team, who originally > developed what is now Yahoogroups, but Verizon bought him out and > already driven out many groups along with wipeout of their archives. > > People who developed Groups.io also included those originally from > Google Groups. > > Best all around per Dick Eastman in his write up > https://blog.eogn.com/2020/01/10/groups-io-the-do-it-yourself-replacement-for-disappearing-message-boards-and-mailing-lists/ > > David Samuelsen > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/orpolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello all Polk Co Researchers. I am Gayle Triller the administrator of this list and the CC for Polk Co GenWeb. As some of you may have heard Ancestry is shutting down all of the Rootsweb mailing lists. I have created a new list and am getting ready to send you all invites to join the new list. Over the past year or so the Rootsweb lists have been offline for months at a time with our new list I am hoping that we will have renewed interest and the list will become more active than it has been in the past couple of years. Gayle

Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails.  Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state.  Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb In light of this, new list is up and running as consolidated list with other counties included. https://groups.io/g/Oregon-Genealogy Scroll down to blue tag "Join this Group" Groups.io was developed by the man and his team, who originally developed what is now Yahoogroups, but Verizon bought him out and already driven out many groups along with wipeout of their archives. People who developed Groups.io also included those originally from Google Groups. Best all around per Dick Eastman in his write up https://blog.eogn.com/2020/01/10/groups-io-the-do-it-yourself-replacement-for-disappearing-message-boards-and-mailing-lists/ David Samuelsen

Gayle, Thanks for offering to do this. Those of us who were early users of Rootsweb are accustomed to contributing a few dollars to help support the need for server equipment when the original founder had it. He would usually send out a message, usually around the Thanksgiving, requesting donations to help cover the cost of the growth it was experiencing. After the ROOTS series appeared on television the number of Rootsweb members exploded. When the big A offered to let him use their servers free of charge he naturally agreed. The number one reason the big A exists is to make money for their owners. It has changed ownership several times over the years and a few years ago the owners at that time decided to no longer support Rootsweb as it did not generate any money for them. Backups of data stopped and IT people who know nothing about genealogy began tweaking the search field making it awkward to find anything but current postings. Thanks again for trying to help all of us. Tom O'Brien On 1/9/2020 1:07 AM, orpolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Send ORPOLK mailing list submissions to orpolk@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to orpolk-request@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to orpolk-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > orpolk-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ORPOLK digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 > (GAYLE TRILLER) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 14:55:22 -0800 (PST) > From: GAYLE TRILLER <gaylelt@comcast.net> > Subject: [ORPOLK] Re: Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in > March 2020 > To: orpolk@rootsweb.com, Aaron Hill <hillaj@outlook.com> > Message-ID: <61909960.214703.1578524122662@connect.xfinity.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I am the CC of Polk County and the administrator of the Polk Co mail list. > I am going to start setting up an alternative mail list for all my counties in the next few days. I will be doing my best to have this set up quickly and will subscribe all of you to the new list. > > Gayle Triller > CC Polk County. > > >> On January 7, 2020 at 10:28 PM Aaron Hill <hillaj@outlook.com> wrote: >> >> >> I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you want. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. >> >> To comment on this draconian move, send your message to rwmailinglists@ancestry.com or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. >> >> Aaron J. Hill >> aaronjhill.wordpress.com >> >> >> From RootsWeb Administration <rwmailinglists@ancestry.com> >> Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM >> >> Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. >> >> Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. >> >> As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. >> Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. >> >> Sincerely, >> The RootsWeb team >> >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/orpolk@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ORPOLK mailing list -- orpolk@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of ORPOLK Digest, Vol 12, Issue 1 > *************************************

I am the CC of Polk County and the administrator of the Polk Co mail list. I am going to start setting up an alternative mail list for all my counties in the next few days. I will be doing my best to have this set up quickly and will subscribe all of you to the new list. Gayle Triller CC Polk County. > On January 7, 2020 at 10:28 PM Aaron Hill <hillaj@outlook.com> wrote: > > > I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you want. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. > > To comment on this draconian move, send your message to rwmailinglists@ancestry.com or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. > > Aaron J. Hill > aaronjhill.wordpress.com > > > From RootsWeb Administration <rwmailinglists@ancestry.com> > Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM > > Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. > > Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. > > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. > > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/ > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/orpolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you want. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. To comment on this draconian move, send your message to rwmailinglists@ancestry.com or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. Aaron J. Hill aaronjhill.wordpress.com From RootsWeb Administration <rwmailinglists@ancestry.com> Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. Sincerely, The RootsWeb team https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/

Neighboring counties... Oregon, Yamhill - 1854-1926 Ohio, Wayne - 1817-1840 West Virginia, Marshall 1835-1871 and Wetzel 1847-1903 Tennessee, Washington 1779-1857 Kentucky, Martin 1861-1941 Indiana, Marion 1840-1865 Images not online, seen only at Family History Center Illinois, Cook 1883-1884 not available online or go to Salt Lake City's Family History Library. Images are accessible via links. Free access to FamilySearch but you need FamilySearch account, which is free. For other states/counties in last 4 months https://www.sampubco.com/newlist.htm https://www.sampubco.com/ W David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

I am looking for the burial location of my great-grandmother, Della Mabel (Belle) Syron. She was born to Montgomery Syron and Mary Elizabeth Lynch on 5 Jan 1878 in Polk County.  And she died in Black Rock, Polk County on 22 May 1911.  She married Hank Brown (a logger) and had 6 children.  Here is a brief summary of her final months (that I've found so far)... She gave birth to her 6th child, Clayton Henry Brown on 13 Jan 1911 in Black Rock (a 14 pound boy according to the Observer, on p.1 on 20 Jan 1911).  Her 2.5 year old daughter, Cora, died suddenly 5 Mar 1911.  Then Della herself died on 22 May 1911 in Black Rock. Her logger husband, Hank, then had to split up the older 4 children to different homes, and then gave up the infant, Clayton Henry Brown, for adoption to John and Ada Graham Thomas, who lived in Falls City. Any help on locating Della's burial site would be greatly appreciated!  (and her little daughter, Cora, too if possible). Sincerely, Rob Thomasrthomasma@yahoo.com

Neighboring counties: New and updated additions - Benton County Oregon - probate files - completed Clackamas County Oregon, wills Vol 2-9 testators, completed (vol 1 is lost) http://www.sampubco.com/wills/or/oregon.htm W David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

Karen Beagle you have a virus that is sending spam Jan On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Karen Beagle via <orpolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > http://thepartyglasses.com/crpjbmr.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Co'er?io'n, after all, merely captures man. Freedo'm captivates him. > Vinnie Lustberg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORPOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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I've "rescued" two old photographs belonging to the ROYAL Family of Oregon. The first is one of Cecil and Esther ROYAL which was taken at the Pickerill & Catterlin Studio in Salem, OR. Cecil appears to be about 4 years old and Esther about 1 year old. The photograph was likely taken in the 1880's with additional notes on the photograph indicating that they are "Mill ROYAL'S Children" and "Dr. DODSON'S niece and nephew". The second photograph is one of Ester (spelled differently than first photo) ROYAL which was taken at the Sperry Studio in Salem, OR when she was just an infant. Also noted on this photograph as "Mill Roys child". Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding the family: Cecil Lloyd ROYAL was b. 29 Sept 1885 in Polk Co., OR to parents Forester Wise ROYAL (b. Sept 1860 in Douglas Co. OR-d. 1934) and Ellen or Ella A. DODSON (b. Aug 1865 in Oregon-d. 1927). Cecil was one of 2 children born to this couple including a sister Ester or Esther M. ROYAL b. 1890 in Oregon. Cecil married first married Edna Josephine WHEELER (b. 1888-1890) on 21 Feb 1907 in Yamhill Co. OR and then he married a 2nd time to Jessie Gertrude RUBOTTOM (b. 25 Sept 1887 in California-d. 1957) on 22 Aug 1926. Cecil d. 2 Feb 1969 in McCloud, CA and is buried in the Mountain View Cemetery in Ashland, OR. Esther ROYAL married Lloyd Ellison COCHRAN (b. 10 Oct 1888 in Colfax, WA) on 25 April 1910 in Polk, OR and together they had at least one child. Census records provide the following: 1900 census of Douglas, OR: Ellen A. ROYAL, age 25, born Aug 1875, born OR, married 1884 at age 16, father born TN (believe the age and birthdate are off by 10 years here) Cecil ROYAL, son, age 15, born Sept 1885, born OR, father born OR Ester ROYAL, dau, age 10, born Mar 1890, born OR, father born OR 1910 census of Jackson, OR: Forester N. ROYAL, age 45, born 1865, born OR, parents born OH Ellen A. ROYAL, wife, age 40, born 1870, born OR, parents born TN Esther ROYAL, dau, age 19, born 1891, born OR 1910 census of Silverton, OR: Cecil L. ROYAL, age 24, married 2 years, born OR, parents born OR, a Railroad Brakeman Edna ROYAL, wife, age 22, married 2 years, born NE, parents born IA/IL Catherine ROYAL, dau, age 2, born OR 1920 census of Amity, OR: Lloyd COCHRAN, age 31, born WA, parents born MI/OR, a Farmer Esther COCHRAN, wife, age 29, born OR, parents born OR Royal COCHRAN, son, age 1 year + 9 months, born OR Mellisa COCHRAN, mother, age 69, a widow, born OR, parents born OH/PA + 2 Boarders 1920 census of Mott, CA: - a Lodger in the home of Antone HILTY Cecil L. ROYAL, age 34, born OR, parents born OR, a Steam Railroad Brakeman 1930 census of Yamhill Co., OR: Loyd E. COCHRAN, age 42, married at age 21, born WA, parents born MI/OR, a Farmer Esther M. COCHRAN, wife, age 40, married at age 19, born OR, parents born OR Royal A. COCHRAN, son, age 12, born OR 1930 census of Hillside, OR: Cecil L. ROYAL, age 44, born OR, married at age 40, born OR, parents born OR/TN, a Steam Railroad Conductor Gertrude ROYAL, wife, age 42, born CA, married at age 38, parents born IN/IL 1940 census of Mott Township: Cecil L. ROYAL, age 53, born OR, a Steam Railroad Conductor Gertrude ROYAL, wife, age 52, born CA 1940 census of Amity, OR: Loyd COCHRAN, age 55, born WA, a Public School Chauffer Esther COCHRAN, wife, age 50, born OR Royal COCHRAN, son, age 22, born OR, an Automobile Salesman I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that the photographs can be returned to their care. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

We would like to announce the forming of a new organization the Cumberland Gap Tennessee Genealogy and History Group, A.K.A (CGTGHG) which propose to record and preserve. The goal of the group is to promote Genealogy with the recording of Pioneerâs and their descendantâs while also preserving and recording Cumberland Gapâs history. The CGTGHG hopeâs the Nation will get behind the group by submitting pioneerâs names, stories, pictures and Genealogies to be preserved for future generations to come. The CGTGHG will be having a newsletter 4 times a year and will have memberships available on different levels more on that to come. You can go to our website at [1]cgtghg.org or [2]facebook.com/cgtghg Thank You, David A Nelson Jr Website and Social Media References 1. http://cgtghg.org/ 2. http://facebook.com/cgtghg

I've "rescued" an old autograph album belonging to Mary LILLY including inscriptions from family and friends including sisters Ora and Hettie LILLY. Based on limited research I was able to gather the following information regarding Mary and her family: Ora Belle LILLY was b. 19 Dec 1865 in Oregon to parents Silas Norman LILLY (b. 18 Dec 1830 in Oneida, NY-d. 8 Jun 1913 in Corvallis, OR) and Lucinda Ann HARDIE (b. 28 Jul 1844 in Millersburg, IL-d. 18 Jul 1893 in Corvallis, OR). It appears that Ora was one of 9 children born to this couple including, Sidi LILLY (1861-1863); Leslie LILLY (1863-1945); Ora Belle LILLY (1865-1930); Clara L. or Norman LILLY (1868-1953); Frank L. LILLY (1870-1963); Hettie A. (b. 1874); Mary Ellen LILLY (1875-1970); Arthur Austin LILLY (1880-1967); and Ruth Laura or Laura Ruth LILLY (1888-1987). Ora Belle married William C. CORBETT (b. 24 Nov 1859-d. 20 Feb 1921 in Benton Co. OR) and had at least four children including, Walter R. CORBETT (1890-1912); Ruth CORBETT (1892-1978); Grace CORBETT (1894-1943); and Philip Lynn CORBETT (1898-1951). Ora Belle LILLY CORBETT died 4 May 1930 in Polk Co. OR and is buried in the Crystal Lake Cemetery in Corvallis, OR. Mary Ellen LILLY was b. Oct 1875 in Portland, OR to the same parents. Mary Ellen married William Seneca CARVER (1870-1940) and died 21 Feb 1970 in Benton Co. OR and is buried in the Crystal Lake Cemetery in Corvallis, OR. Census records provide the following information: 1870 census of Corvallis, OR: S. N. LILLY, age 39, a Farmer, born NY Lucinda A. LILLY, age 25, Keeping House, born IL Leslie LILLY, age 7, born OR Ora Bell LILLY, age 4, born OR Clara LILLY, age 2, born OR + 1 Farm Hand 1880 census of Corvallis, OR: Silas N. LILLY, age 49, a Farmer, born NY, parents born NY Lucinda A. LILLY, wife, age 35, Keeping House, born IL, parents born ME/IN Leslie LILLY, son, age 16, a Farm Laborer, born OR Ora B. LILLY, dau, age 14, Keeping House, born OR Clara LILLY, dau, age 12, at School, born OR Frank LILLY, son, age 9, born OR Hettie A. LILLY, dau, age 6, born OR Mary E. LILLY, dau, age 4, born OR I am hoping to locate someone from this LILLY Family so that the autograph album can be returned to the care of their family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

I got this from another list: The Oregon State Archives will be closed on Tuesday November 19th for an all staff training. We are trying to make sure that our patrons know about this closure. So sorry for the inconvenience. Hope to see you another day. Regards, Layne Sawyer List Mom Oregon State Archives P.S. The agency is also launching a new version of the website over this weekend so there maybe periodic outages for some of the databases.

To find who are buried in the cemeteries Go to http://www.newyorkgravestones.org in the black bar Click "Search..." LastName: Change "Starts With" to "Contains" Enter any of these ones with () included (SERV) - all whose services are not certain in time of wars, could be between the wars. (FI) - French and Indian War (RW) - Revolutionary War (1812) - War of 1812 (we are in middle of 200th anniversary!) (MEX) - Mexican War (IW) - Indian Wars (SA) - Spanish American (PI) - Philippine Insurrection (WWI) - World War I (WWII) - World War II (KOR) - Korean Conflict (or Korean War) (VN) - Vietnam (PG) - Persian Gulf (IRAQ) - Iraq (AFG) - Afghanistan

list, anyone on here related to and researching ROBERT JORDAN from KNOXVILLE,TN?  he married AGGIE MOORE ANDERSON, then they moved to OR. they divorced? and i think she is the same one who married a HARRY HUGHES. they resided in BORING,OR, til her death May 20,1932. we think this is our missing great aunt. trying to findabsolute proof. i have AGNES HUGHES death certif, all it says is cause of death, Brain Hemorage. b.March 1874 TN. obit has her with 3 sons ALLEN,CLYDED & LEE. seems ALLEN lived in POLK Co. according to censuses. Agne;s obit list 1 sister. My AGNES had 1 sister & 3 brothers. that sort of stops me. but til i can get positive info from a direct relative, i'll still say she's ours. i had a lot of census info. a burned computer lost it. my AGNES has a missing brother WILL MOORE. Thank you, Ray.

Nice to hear from you, thanks. P.S. I'm a Monmouth resident. Beth Blote On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:34 PM, "Bony, Jan" <jbony@ochoco.com> wrote: > The lists have been a little slow, so I thought I would throw out some help > aids. > > Be brave and use the list, you never know who might be able to help > > Did you know about familysearch.org? http://familysearch.org Set up a free > account with them and you can research millions of records. They even tell > you if the document you want is free on their site, or with a pay site. > Great place to research. > > Do you know about Heritage Quest? You can get access for free from your > home with your library card. You can get census access from them. Ask your > library for more information. > > Everyone knows about Ancestry.com and know it costs $$ - however did you > know that most libraries have it on their public computers for free ~ > that's right, all you need is a library card to access. > > There is also cemetery help that is free: > http://findagrave.com > http://billiongraves.com > > There is also free help at a very strange spot called LinkedIn. Most people > know this is a great spot for looking for work, but it also has great > boards for genealogy. Set up your free account today! > > > Hope this helps you dig for your roots > > Jan ~ Your friendly list administrator > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORPOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The lists have been a little slow, so I thought I would throw out some help aids. Be brave and use the list, you never know who might be able to help Did you know about familysearch.org? http://familysearch.org Set up a free account with them and you can research millions of records. They even tell you if the document you want is free on their site, or with a pay site. Great place to research. Do you know about Heritage Quest? You can get access for free from your home with your library card. You can get census access from them. Ask your library for more information. Everyone knows about Ancestry.com and know it costs $$ - however did you know that most libraries have it on their public computers for free ~ that's right, all you need is a library card to access. There is also cemetery help that is free: http://findagrave.com http://billiongraves.com There is also free help at a very strange spot called LinkedIn. Most people know this is a great spot for looking for work, but it also has great boards for genealogy. Set up your free account today! Hope this helps you dig for your roots Jan ~ Your friendly list administrator