And again! Here is another child from that family: John SINCLAIR (M)..................... B: 21 Dec 1832 Father: John SINCLAIR Herston, S. Ronaldshay, Orkney, Mother: Jannet SYMISON Scotland I would guess that Isabella b. 1835, may have died young, probably of TB, as she's not in your list. I would also check out the possibility of a Manson grandparent because of Annie's second name. e.g. James SINCLAR (M)..................... M: 14 Nov 1794 Spouse: Isabela MANSON South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Either of these two would be good possibilities for John (the father): John SINCLAIR (M)..................... B: 18 Nov 1805 Father: John SINCLAIR Sandwick, S. Ronaldshay, Orkney, Mother: Helen SYMISON Scotland John SINCLAIR (M)..................... C: 22 Nov 1805 Father: John SINCLAIR South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Helen SYMISON John SINCLAIR (M)..................... M: 12 Mar 1805 Spouse: Helen SYMESON South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland John SINCLAIR (M)..................... C: 9 Mar 1810 Father: James SINCLAIR South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Isobella WARDS I don't see their marriage in the marriage text. Hi, it's me again! I just went to the Sinclair births text at > http://www.cursiter.com/Sinclair.txt > and searched for John.( I think if you download the .exe file, it's probably easier but I'm not very good at translating files to be read by my Max). I picked John because it's not usually spelled differently while Jennet could be Janet or Jannet and Simeson can be Symison or even Simpson. I didn't go all the way through it but I found these people who are very likely the ones you mean. Like me, it looks like your family were from South Ronaldsay so I would stick to entries from that island in trying to figure out the parents of John and Janet. > Am trying to locate info on John SINCLAIR b abt 1810 m Jennet SIMESON b abt > 1810. They had 4 children 3 being born in Orkney-Annie b 1830,Jessie b > 1831, John b 1833, and James Christie b 1845 in Liverpool. > Any info appreciated > Thank you > Mattie Bird > Ann Manson SINCLAIR (F)............... C: 13 Feb 1829 Father: John SINCLAIR South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Jannet SYMISON Anne Manson SINCLAIR (F).............. C: 22 Feb 1830 Father: John SINCLAIR South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Jannet SYMISON Isabella SINCLAIR (F)................. C: 4 May 1835 Father: John SINCLAIR South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Jannet SYMISON Jannet SINCLAIR (F)................... C: 13 Sep 1831 Father: John SINCLAIR South Ronaldsay, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Jannet SYMISON -- Pam Thomson British Columbia, Canada Proud to be a Rootsweb Sponsor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TownSquareNetwork