Yes, we have a link here - Alexander Flett Groat is our direct ancestor (of my husband and children more correctly I suppose!). I have Ellen Nicolson listed as Helen Nicolson - perhaps you can help clarify that one. Yes I knew Jackie Groat who was great for the Family History, he was a great loss when he died last year. I am also in touch with others. Email me off-list with more details please. groat@btinternet.com I look forward to hearing from you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > Hi Catriona, > > These are the instances of Groat that I have occurring in my family tree. > If you have any connection I will send further details. > > 4. Alan Smith, b. 1937 > + Sheila Groat, m. 1965 > 5. Michael Smith, b. 1966 > 5. Ila Smith, b. 1968 > + Arthur Corse, m. 16.8.1996 > 5. Rodney Smith, b. 1970 > > > 2. Ellen Nicolson, b. 1862, d. 20.5.1911 > + m. Alexander F Groat c. 16.5.1845 (son of Malcolm Groat and Ann > Cromarty)_(2nd wife) > > Descendants from this line are Jackie, Jimmy and Maurice Groat and Betty > Grieve all living on Orkney still except for one of the boys who died in > 1998. Can't find my info at the moment. My main line is Smith and > Nicolson. Let me know if this fits in. > > Regards, > Jan, Canberra, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, 30 November 1999 6:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > > >Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in > >both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study > >really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail > is > >temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I > >hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I > have > >branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts > of > >the UK. > > > >I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a > >GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of > >a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose > >surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to > >try us !! :-) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> > >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM > >Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > > > > >> Hi Catriona, > >> > >> I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families > >from > >> Longhope and around what period of time. > >> > >> Jan > >> Canberra, Australia > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > >> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > >> > >> > >> >Sarah > >> > > >> >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on > Hourie, > >> >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of > >farm > >> >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my > >> >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is > >> >welcome to what I have. > >> > > >> >Catriona > >> > > >> >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, > >> >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) > >> > > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> > >> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM > >> >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had > >> >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I > >> >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I > >> >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to > all > >> >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most > >> >gratefully received. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks > >> >> Sarah > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >