William: That's a difficult one. If AH Sinclair was the owner as well as the captain, as was quite common for small sailing vessels in those days, then I fear the crew's wages would never have been paid to anyone. If the vessel was owned by a more substantive company then the company might volunteer payments to the next of kin, who might also persuade the Board of Trade to bring a court action for their recovery, but it would be most difficult to pursue records of either of these contingencies. Your first task would be to find out who owned the vessel from a copy of annual Lloyds Register. Thereafter there are a number records which might refer to the incident, but they are complex and not widely available - see CT & MT Watts'"My Ancestor was a Seaman". James Irvine. > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:22:27 +0100 > From: "William Sinclair" <sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Dearness Mariners Lost at Sea > To: orkney@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <a93263dd0808280522sa9d5cd4i4ce7a6d7bff65ba3@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi James > > I have a relative Alexander Hossack Sinclair who was the captain of > the the Schooner Janet who was lost at sea along with all hands in > 1918. > > Would there be a record of where the wages went for this crew, even if > they were never found. If so have you any information as to how I > could get a copy of the details. > > William Sinclair > > 2008/8/28 James Irvine <james.irvine@ukonline.co.uk>: >> Since the 1850's all merchant seafarers signed a contract with the ship's >> master known as the ship's articles (of employment). They were "signed >> on" >> (these articles) when they joined his vessel and "signed off" when they >> left. The signings took place at the ports of joining and leaving the >> vessel. Those drowned at sea would be signed off at the next port of >> call, >> or possibly next UK port of call, and, as Judith says, the wages owing >> posted to the next-of-kin by the local Board of Trade official (who >> oversaw >> all signings, to ensure fair play). It was - is - customary for the >> deceased's personal effects to be auctioned to his shipmates and the >> proceeds sent to the widow. >> >> James Irvine (who was better at driving a ship than a web page!). >> >> >> ------------------ >> List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing >> and UnSubscribing can be found at: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:02:44 -0500 > From: Meg Greenwood <scotquester@bartnet.net> > Subject: [ORKNEY] James Halcro, US 1880 Census Michigan > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <48B774E4.7060703@bartnet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Think I've identified the James HALCRO found in the 1880 US census in > Sparta, Kent county Michigan.. His information says hes a White Male, > Single, Farmer age 42 born Scotland. Parents both born Scotland. That > would make his birth year about 1838. Other questions were asked in the > 1880 census but not all applied, so there are a lot of blanks. > > There are 2 candidates for him in the IGI ...one born Orphir June 1843 > to Thomas HALCRO and Isabella MATHIESON. Another in Evie and Rendall was > born Dec 1833 parents Thomas HALCRO and Margaret BROWN. The census has > one clue about his birth month which should not have been given. Every > one on this page gave their birth month. The question was only intended > for those infants born in 1880, but the enumerator didn't understand it > right, and asked the question of everyone. James gave DECEMBER as his > birth month making him most likely the Evie and Rendall one . Looks > like James shaved off almost 5y of his age, he should have been 46 1/2y > not 42 in June, 1880. > > Anyone know of this James HALCRO and can say he IS or is NOT the US one > ? A lot of HALCRO/Ws came into Michigan and stayed a decent length of > time, some traveling on westward, many staying indefinitely. Have been > tracking HALCROs and HALCROWs in the US and other continents. Meg > Greenwood / Oklahoma USA > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ORKNEY list administrator, send an email to > ORKNEY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ORKNEY mailing list, send an email to > ORKNEY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ORKNEY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 105 > ************************************** > >