Hi Lisa, Yes we have corresponded in the past on Allan and Rosie related info, this I think is our first contact involving our Budge interests, but I could be wrong. Your theory that Magnus Budge might have been the father of your 4G-grandfather James Budge could very well be correct, I have always thought that Henry in Gossigar, John in Windwick, and James were all brothers and that Magnus was their father, my reasons for thinking along these lines –I found a Henry Budge Born/ Chr. 1757 Father Magnus Budge, this Henry I have down as the one in Gossigar, you have your 4g-grandfather baptised 1759 and his father is Magnus Budge so they could very easily be brothers, I also have some information a first cousin of mine found in the Orkney Archives on a visit there a couple of years back From the Earldom rentals of the late 18th century-the following paid rent:- 1788-Henry Budge in Gossigar, and John Budge in Windwick. I believe these to be brothers,now, as my Oman Budge was living at Windwick at the time of his marriage; I would like to believe John was his father, just can’t find the proof. Again Oman being a witness at Isabel Budges marriage, was he a brother? Isabel’s parents were John Budge and Janet Norquay, there I think we have a link to Windwick, (with the father being John) and if Isabel is Oman’s sister Margaret Budge who married Donald Symison 1830 is another, her parents were also John Budge and Janet Norquay as was Helen Budge who was living with Margaret at Muckquoy in the 1851 census. As you say Lisa it is all a mish mash mess and the more I delve into it the more of a muddle I get into, one day I’m sure we will sort it all out. Cathy In a message dated 05/09/2005 00:02:37 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Cathy -- In regards to your query on the Oman Budge stuff, I do have some interest in being a "fellow" seeker with you on this! and would hope that anyone who might know more about Oman's possible parents/siblings, could contact me as well? Please? I know you and I, Cathy, have interacted in past years about Budge-related info, but I cannot recall just now what all we have focused upon together.