I have recently found another probable connection in my ancestry but have had no luck in proving it, and I hope that some other Lister will have some information which may help me to solve this little puzzle. My GGGG grandmother was Lucia Traill, who married first to Rev. Thomas Stuart Traill of Tirlet, and second to my GGGG grandfather David Spence of Scapa. Lucia was buried 22 June 1793 at Kirkwall, but I have found no record of her birth, which must have been some time between 1740 and 1760 (probably near the end of that range). Her first marriage apparently took place on Westray and her second marriage in Kirkwall. In family papers I have inherited, it is stated that she was the daughter of "James Traill and Miss Forbes of Aberdeen", but nothing more. Another Traill researcher has informed me that she is mentioned in some family papers in her family with virtually the same phrase. The only additional bit of information this researcher had was that her father was described as "James Traill, merchant in London", and their family records have always suggested that he was a son of Patrick (Peter) Traill and Isobel Kaa. If this information is correct, then James was probably the son baptised to Peter and Isobel on 15 July 1713 in Kirkwall. His father was a son of Patrick (Peter) Traill, Dean of Guild in Kirkwall in the late 1600s, and Elspeth Baikie. It would be very nice if I could find something to prove this, but I have been unable to find any birth/baptism for Lucia which would give any clues. The recent additional information led me to look outside Orkney for the baptism, particularly in London and Aberdeen, but I found nothing in a search of the IGI, anywhere in the UK. Does anyone have any information about this James Traill, who may have been a son of Peter Traill and Isobel Kaa and who was at some point a merchant in London? Does anyone know whether and when he returned to Orkney? Any snippets of data, or suggestions for research, about anything I have written above would be very welcome. Please visit my transcriptions of Kirkwall area parish records for 30 multi-generation families in the 17th, 18th and 19th Centuries, on the Orkney Family History Society members' page at www.orkneyfhs.co.uk Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada