"What names are you looking for? Have you tried Walt Cusiter's site or Lisa Conrad's site at SouthRonaldsay.net Willie Sinclair" Thanks for the response. At the moment I am again looking for SLATER and its variants. I have certainly consulted/used Lisa Conrad's, Walt Cusiter's, Mike Bostwick's and the Scotlandspeople sites. Earlier today I went back to the Scotlandspeople site and found, almost by accident, the listing of the dates for their records. I knew I had seen it before, but could not find it when I was searching recently. This indicated that there were virtually no marriage records for Sanday before 1820, and North Ronaldsay is just about as poorly served. Kirkwall and St Andrews are much better off. That explains my main dilemma, so that problem will continue to be a major hurdle for me. The other question remains, now a little more of an interest puzzle in understanding the time. It seems that in the period 1750 to 1850, despite the travel difficulties, ministers were fairly readily available, as most children seemed to be baptised within a few days of their birth. So in most cases the availability of a minister to conduct the ceremony seems not to be an issue. Reading the Kirk Session Minutes certainly gives the impression that living together without a formal marriage contract and ceremony would not have been accepted by the church, and would bring significant censure within the community, despite the legal issues. (I must do some more reading on the place of, and relationship between, the Marriage Contact and the marriage ceremony - any suggestions?). Have any of you found any of your relatives in this time period apparently declaring marriage "by habit and repute". Robert Slater

I am fortunate that most of my ancestors came from South Ronaldsay and Lisa Conrad had done most of the work for me already. Though my oldest Sinclair's have no record of their marriage or their childrens birth. There is also the possibility thay they were dissenters and did not want to pay the church to register the marriage or the biths as it cost money. Willie 2008/10/31 Robert SLATER <rsla8999@bigpond.net.au>: > "What names are you looking for? > > > > Have you tried Walt Cusiter's site or Lisa Conrad's site at > SouthRonaldsay.net > > > > Willie Sinclair" > > > > Thanks for the response. > > At the moment I am again looking for SLATER and its variants. > > I have certainly consulted/used Lisa Conrad's, Walt Cusiter's, Mike > Bostwick's and the Scotlandspeople sites. Earlier today I went back to the > Scotlandspeople site and found, almost by accident, the listing of the dates > for their records. I knew I had seen it before, but could not find it when > I was searching recently. This indicated that there were virtually no > marriage records for Sanday before 1820, and North Ronaldsay is just about > as poorly served. Kirkwall and St Andrews are much better off. That > explains my main dilemma, so that problem will continue to be a major hurdle > for me. > > > > The other question remains, now a little more of an interest puzzle in > understanding the time. It seems that in the period 1750 to 1850, despite > the travel difficulties, ministers were fairly readily available, as most > children seemed to be baptised within a few days of their birth. So in > most cases the availability of a minister to conduct the ceremony seems not > to be an issue. Reading the Kirk Session Minutes certainly gives the > impression that living together without a formal marriage contract and > ceremony would not have been accepted by the church, and would bring > significant censure within the community, despite the legal issues. (I > must do some more reading on the place of, and relationship between, the > Marriage Contact and the marriage ceremony - any suggestions?). > > > > Have any of you found any of your relatives in this time period apparently > declaring marriage "by habit and repute". > > Robert Slater > > > > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have done a lot of work on SAnday Slaters -Slatter,. Sclater, Sclaitter. etc I am a Sanday born Slater ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert SLATER" <rsla8999@bigpond.net.au> To: <ORKNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] Marriage by "Habit and Repute" > "What names are you looking for? > > > > Have you tried Walt Cusiter's site or Lisa Conrad's site at > SouthRonaldsay.net > > > > Willie Sinclair" > > > > Thanks for the response. > > At the moment I am again looking for SLATER and its variants. > > I have certainly consulted/used Lisa Conrad's, Walt Cusiter's, Mike > Bostwick's and the Scotlandspeople sites. Earlier today I went back to > the > Scotlandspeople site and found, almost by accident, the listing of the > dates > for their records. I knew I had seen it before, but could not find it > when > I was searching recently. This indicated that there were virtually no > marriage records for Sanday before 1820, and North Ronaldsay is just about > as poorly served. Kirkwall and St Andrews are much better off. That > explains my main dilemma, so that problem will continue to be a major > hurdle > for me. > > > > The other question remains, now a little more of an interest puzzle in > understanding the time. It seems that in the period 1750 to 1850, > despite > the travel difficulties, ministers were fairly readily available, as most > children seemed to be baptised within a few days of their birth. So in > most cases the availability of a minister to conduct the ceremony seems > not > to be an issue. Reading the Kirk Session Minutes certainly gives the > impression that living together without a formal marriage contract and > ceremony would not have been accepted by the church, and would bring > significant censure within the community, despite the legal issues. (I > must do some more reading on the place of, and relationship between, the > Marriage Contact and the marriage ceremony - any suggestions?). > > > > Have any of you found any of your relatives in this time period apparently > declaring marriage "by habit and repute". > > Robert Slater > > > > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing > and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1759 - Release Date: 31/10/2008 16:10