If any one would like to see an example of the book I created on ancestry let me know. If you want you can send me a small gedcom file and I can create it for you. It can be printed out on your own computer or Ancestry can create a leather bound book. By the way this is not an advert for Ancestry, I have several moans about them but the book creation is good. Willie 2009/1/3 mattse165 <mattse165@paradise.net.nz>: > I have downloaded this template and after 2 and a half hours my computor > just did not install and I then tried the other suggested template which was > suggested on the list by from Susan and it downloads in a couple of > minutes, is in word format, very simple to use and consists of about 20 odd > pages which explains where various items go plus suggestions of what to put. > I fully suggest that this one is a good basic plus it is very adaptable > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History.doc > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History_2.doc > > They are from > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/page3.html > > Regards > Elaine > > > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Elaine..... I've had a quick look and they appear to be just "up my street" ...... I've long meant to do a 'book' so I shall have a go. I have hard/paper files that are done in that sort of format, I suppose .... sheets of text and pics within plastic sleeves but a 'book' would look a lot more special. Many thanks Heather> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 07:40:59 +1300> From: mattse165@paradise.net.nz> To: orkney@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ORKNEY] re [PEI-ROOTS] BOOK TEMPLATE> > I have downloaded this template and after 2 and a half hours my computor > just did not install and I then tried the other suggested template which was > suggested on the list by from Susan and it downloads in a couple of > minutes, is in word format, very simple to use and consists of about 20 odd > pages which explains where various items go plus suggestions of what to put. > I fully suggest that this one is a good basic plus it is very adaptable> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History.doc> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History_2.doc> > They are from> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/page3.html> > Regards> Elaine> > > ------------------> List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at:> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Live Search presents Big Snap II - win John Lewis vouchers http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/

Hi there Have been watching this thread ..... you have to download their programme and my computer is telling me not to -can you trust blurb please? Heather > From: ajmaceye@sympatico.ca> To: pei-roots@rootsweb.com; nsroots@ednet.ns.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:33:02 -0500> CC: mariners@rootsweb.com; orkney@rootsweb.com; pei-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] [PEI-ROOTS] book template> > Have a look at http://www.blurb.com/<http://www.blurb.com/>. This might serve your purpose.> > Allison in Mississauga> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: R.A.(Dutch) Thompson<mailto:dutchink@pei.sympatico.ca> > To: nsroots<mailto:nsroots@ednet.ns.ca> > Cc: mariners@rootsweb.com<mailto:mariners@rootsweb.com> ; orkney@rootsweb.com<mailto:orkney@rootsweb.com> ; pei-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:pei-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: December 30, 2008 8:47 AM> Subject: [PEI-ROOTS] book template> > > Hi-> I'm trying to find a way to corral the family tree info I've gathered to share with relatives- including photos etc- > can anyone suggest a book template they've used that's not too complicated ? I'd like to see how the text and photos etc look when laid out properly-> > Thanks for any suggestions-> > Thompson in PEI> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PEI-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PEI-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> ------------------> List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at:> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC?  Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/

Mike Clouston wrote: > I don't know what research has been done into the origins of the > Sabiston surname but I once heard it said that it possibly originated > from a survivor of the Spanish Armada named Sebastian whose ship was > wrecked in Orkney. > > Just how much credence you'd care to place on this theory is up to you :-) > In "The Surnames of Scotland" by George F. Black there is this: "SABISTON: From the udal land of Sabistane in the parish of Birsay, Orkney. Henry Sabistane was retoured heir of Robert Sabistane in part of the lands, 1662 (Retours, Orkney, 94). John Sabiston, a Scots piper in New York, 1935." In "Orkney Family Names", Gregor Lamb says: "Sabiston: Andrew Sabiston, servant, Housegarth, Sandiwck, 1611, pronounced 'Sabbeeston' by older people but more generally 'Saybeeston' today; from the tunship of Sabiston in Birsay; the Sabistons are almost certainly a branch of the Rowlands of Sandwick; Sabiston is also written Sabister and Shabister in old records, alternative forms of the tunship name; a common family name scattered lightly throughout Orkney; Birsay and Kirkwall account for half the Sabiston families; this family name is recorded in USA and in Australia where it has been corrupted to the written form 'Sebastian'." The "-ton" suffix certainly looks pretty much like the common ending of many tunship place-names. Interesting that Lamb suggests that the name Sabiston became Sebastian after it travelled to Australia rather than the other way round, with Sebastian having been corrupted to Sabiston within Orkney! The influence of the Armada is said to be evident in Westray. Charles Tait in his Orkney Guidebook says that in 1588 "one small boatload of survivors from a ship of the Spanish Armada is said to have reached Pierowall [on Westray]. Their ship, which had lost its rudder and mainmast in a storm, sank in the Dennis Röst off North Ronaldsay, "The Dons, as they were called, settled along the North Shore and married local girls, taking Orkney surnames. The mixture of Norse and Spanish blood seems to have produced very good seamen and some of the traits — dark hair and eyes and a quick wit — can still be seen in Westray people today." Again, though, that could be just a myth! Norman T.

On their way to you just now. Willie 2009/1/2 <MSiperek@aol.com>: > Dear Willie, > Although I do not have info on the Sabiston family you were inquiring > about, there were many in the Sabiston family who went from Orkney to the Great > Lakes area bordering US and Canada. In fact the James Groat below, was > likely one of those Orcadian men. The often worked the Great Lakes during the > summer and wintered in OK. > Of the list of people I would like the passport pictures of the following > two, if you have them. John Mainland was my Gr-grandmother's first cousin. > I am thinking that the passport pix may help me identify some of the untitled > photos I have. I believe that the James Goat is part of my Barbara Groats > family, with the R possibly standing for ROSIE? > > 1. Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Mainland 4 Jul 1874 Orkney, > Scotland > 24 Feb 1921 La Porte, Indiana > 2. Match quality: 1 out of 5 James T R Groat 28 Aug 1880 Orkney > Isles, > Scotland 13 Apr 1920 Chicago, Illinois > View Record > > Thanks, > Marilyn > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't know what research has been done into the origins of the Sabiston surname but I once heard it said that it possibly originated from a survivor of the Spanish Armada named Sebastian whose ship was wrecked in Orkney. Just how much credence you'd care to place on this theory is up to you :-) -- Happy New Year Mike Clouston

Hi Judith The ones listed are those that I can find on ancestry doing a Orkney search. I searched under Dearness and Deerness but could not find anything. Willie 2009/1/2 Judith Edmonds <judithedmonds@hotmail.com>: > > Hi Willie > Happy new Year to you too! > I am interested in the passport applications. How do you find them & what years are available? > I am looking for any details on William Dearness b 1840 Kirkwall, naturalised American citizen, who returned to Scotland for a visit in 1910 with his son John F Dearness , born Ohio 1877. I have found them on passenger lists arriving/departing UK and also on Ellis Island website on their return. > Thanks > Judith > > > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:18:29 +0000 >> From: sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com >> To: orkney@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ORKNEY] Cecilia Jane Annal Sabiston >> >> Hi Listers. >> >> Happy New Year to you all. >> >> Dies anyone know the parents of Cecilia Jane Annal Sabiston, born abt 1912. >> >> She married Sinclair Anderson Sinclair and died 24 June 1994. >> >> Sinclair's parents were Alexander Sinclair and Betsy Berston Norquoy, >> I have their history but nothing on Cecilia's family. >> >> Willie Sinclair >> >> I can obtain the passport applications for the following people most >> have a photograph attached. >> If you are related to any one on this list let me know and I will send >> the information. >> ........................................ >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Imagine a life without walls. See the possibilities. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465943/direct/01/ > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Maureen That is the problem I have a 4x great grandmother Ann Guthrie and that is all I know. I do not know any family members or where she was born. Willie 2009/1/1 M Robinson <bamp@webone.com.au>: > Hello William, > > My Guthries don't seem to have many relations either. > What Guthries do you have? Would they be from Stenness area? > > Maureen Robinson. > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Willie Happy new Year to you too! I am interested in the passport applications. How do you find them & what years are available? I am looking for any details on William Dearness b 1840 Kirkwall, naturalised American citizen, who returned to Scotland for a visit in 1910 with his son John F Dearness , born Ohio 1877. I have found them on passenger lists arriving/departing UK and also on Ellis Island website on their return. Thanks Judith Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:18:29 +0000 > From: sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com > To: orkney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ORKNEY] Cecilia Jane Annal Sabiston > > Hi Listers. > > Happy New Year to you all. > > Dies anyone know the parents of Cecilia Jane Annal Sabiston, born abt 1912. > > She married Sinclair Anderson Sinclair and died 24 June 1994. > > Sinclair's parents were Alexander Sinclair and Betsy Berston Norquoy, > I have their history but nothing on Cecilia's family. > > Willie Sinclair > > I can obtain the passport applications for the following people most > have a photograph attached. > If you are related to any one on this list let me know and I will send > the information. > ........................................ > _________________________________________________________________ Imagine a life without walls.  See the possibilities. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465943/direct/01/

Hi Listers. Happy New Year to you all. Dies anyone know the parents of Cecilia Jane Annal Sabiston, born abt 1912. She married Sinclair Anderson Sinclair and died 24 June 1994. Sinclair's parents were Alexander Sinclair and Betsy Berston Norquoy, I have their history but nothing on Cecilia's family. Willie Sinclair I can obtain the passport applications for the following people most have a photograph attached. If you are related to any one on this list let me know and I will send the information. William Samuel Adamson 6 Jun 1886 Scotland 13 Apr 1923 Los Angeles, Calif View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 George Anderson 13 Nov 1888 Orkney, Scotland 20 Mar 1925 Portland, Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Helen Bichan 22 Jan 1884 Orkney Island, Scotland 23 Apr 1923 Napoleon, Ohio View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Robert Bichan 23 Mar 1920 Orkney, Scotland 19 Feb 1925 Napoleon, Henry County, Ohio View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Catherine Keith Boles 23 Mar 1844 Orkney Lands, Scotland 1 Aug 1923 Fort Smith, Ark View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Margaret C Brewington 2 May 1888 Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland 27 Apr 1921 Albuquerque, New Mexico View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Margaret C Brewington 2 May 1888 Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland 19 Mar 1925 Alberquerque, NY View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Robert Brown 9 Apr 1847 Stromness, Orkney Islands, Scotland 12 Jul 1924 Painted Post, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Robert Budge 19 Oct 1863 Orkney, Scotland 21 Mar 1921 Chicago, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John F Chalmers 13 Jul 1869 Orkney, Scotland 28 Nov 1922 Greenwich, Connecticut View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Victor Clarke 14 Jun 1887 Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland 30 Jun 1920 Kirkwall, Scotland View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 James Cormack 14 Sep 1874 Deedness Orkney, Scotland 1 Apr 1921 Portland, Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Cormack 8 Dec 1861 Orkney Is, Scotland 22 May 1920 San Francisco, Calif View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Cormack 8 Dec 1861 Orkney Isles, Scotland 20 Apr 1922 San Francisco, California View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Sinclair Cormack Jr. 12 Sep 1896 Charlestown, Mass 5 Jan 1920 Newton, Mass View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Mary S Corse 21 Jan 1873 Orkney, Scotland 9 May 1922 Racine, Wisconsin View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Jessie A Croy 17 Feb 1871 Kirkwall Orkney, Scotland 30 Dec 1922 Bubbala, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Ralph Croy 7 Oct 1874 Kirkwall Orkney, Scotland 30 Dec 1922 Buffalo, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Williammina h Cruickshank 22 Jun 1865 Orkney, Scotland 4 Apr 1922 Seattle, Wash View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Charles C L Dickey 25 Dec 1886 Holm, Orkney, Scotland 1 Apr 1920 Portland, Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Charles Cooper Listel Dickey 25 Dec 1886 Holm, Orkney, Scotland 1 Mar 1923 Brooklyn, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Charles Cooper Lister Dickey 25 Dec 1886 Holm Orkney, Scotland 16 Aug 1919 Portland, Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Josiah Lealie Porter Dickey 13 Jan 1885 Holm, Orkney, Scotland 12 Apr 1924 Brooklyn, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Drever 9 Oct 1878 Orkney, Scotland 8 Jul 1921 St Paul, Minnesota View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Elizabeth Driver 16 Jul 1888 Orkney, Scotland 20 Feb 1923 Racine, Wisconsin View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William James Driver 3 Oct 1860 Brooklyn, New York 31 May 1923 Brooklyn, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Logan Driver 14 Jul 1849 Orkney, Scotland 6 Sep 1917 Berkeley, California View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John T Esson 24 Dec 1871 South Ronaldshay, Orkney, Scotland 29 Jan 1921 Cambridge, Massachusetts View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 James Grieve 13 Jan 1868 Orkney, Scotland 11 May 1921 Oak Park, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 James T R Groat 28 Aug 1880 Orkney Isles, Scotland 13 Apr 1920 Chicago, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Groundwater 27 Nov 1883 Stromness, County Orkney, Scotland 27 Jan 1919 San Luis Obispo, California View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 James Harper 7 May 1865 Orkney, Scotland 7 Apr 1920 Oak Park, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Harper 17 Dec 1858 Stenness, Orkney, Scotland 5 Apr 1920 Chicago, Ill View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Harper 17 Dec 1858 Stennis Orkney, Scotland 28 Apr 1920 Chicago, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Ronald St Clair Harrold 20 Jun 1891 Somerville, Massachusetts 25 Aug 1919 Somerville, Massachusetts View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Helen Harvey 22 Jan 1888 Orkney Islands, Scotland 28 Apr 1924 New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Annie Rendall Hay 24 Feb 1867 Westray, (Orkney Isles), Scotland 29 Apr 1924 Cleveland, Ohio View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Lydia G Horton 10 Jan 1886 Orkney Is, Scotland 14 Feb 1921 Buffalo, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Johnes Houston 7 Aug 1874 Orkney, Scotland 4 Sep 1924 Mass View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Elizabeth Isbister 29 Nov 1869 Orphir, Orkney Island, Scotland 14 Apr 1924 Helens, Columbis CO, Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John White Johnston 24 Apr 1879 Rochester, New York 10 Jul 1919 Rochester, NY View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Peter G Johnston 15 Aug 1864 Geramany, Orkney, Scotland 18 Mar 1921 Blackfoot, Idaho View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Peter G Johnston 15 Aug 1864 Graemsay Orkney, Scotland 13 Nov 1918 Blackfoot, Idaho View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Peter R Johnston 7 Jun 1897 Salt Lake City, Utah 3 Apr 1919 Blackfoot, Idaho View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Thomas Slater Johnston 4 Feb 1885 Rochester, NY 29 Mar 1920 Blaeleston Hotal, NY View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 W G Johnston 24 Sep 1850 Orkney Is, Scotland 23 May 1911 Coalville, Utah View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William G Johnston 24 Sep 1850 Orkney, Idles, Scotland 12 Jul 1920 Coalville, Utah View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John F Kirkness 14 Oct 1894 Sunland, California 30 Jul 1920 Los Angeles, Calif View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John F Kirkness 14 Oct 1894 Sunland, Calif 4 Oct 1922 Los Angeles, Calif View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Peter David Firth Kirkness 30 Nov 1881 Orkney, Scotland W A L Laughton 22 Apr 1864 Kirkwall, Orkney Islands, Scotland 16 Aug 1910 Germantown, Tenna View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Thomas Leith 7 Oct 1844 Outertown, Stroumsos, Orkney 15 Feb 1917 Murphy, Josephine County, Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Henry Louttit 25 Oct 1884 St Margarets, Hope Arkney, Scotland 1 Sep 1923 Somerville, Mass View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Mainland 4 Jul 1874 Orkney, Scotland 24 Feb 1921 La Porte, Indiana View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Kenneth Mc Lean 7 Aug 1885 Orkney, Scotland 14 May 1923 NY City, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Joseph McGillivray 16 Oct 1828 Orkney, Scotland 2 Apr 1897 San Francisco, California View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Harriet J McKinley 17 Sep 1872 Orkney Islands, Scotland 15 May 1924 Oregon, Portland View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William Mowatt 6 Apr 1883 Orkney Isles, Scotland 11 May 1921 Alameda, California View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Mabel Hannah Newell 14 Feb 1891 Orkney, Canada 23 May 1917 Syracuse, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Elisa Nutt 25 Feb 1884 Parish of Bersay Orkney Islands, Scotland 12 Jun 1924 Chicago, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Orkney 4 Dec 1891 Roscoe, Penna 21 Apr 1919 Reading, Penna View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Orkney 4 Dec 1891 Roscoe, Penna 21 Apr 1919 Reading, Penna View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Nelson Steele Orkney 4 Sep 1889 Liverpool, England 16 Sep 1920 Clarksburg, West Virginia View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Agnes Clouston Parsons 18 Aug 1890 Orkney Islands, Scotland 9 May 1919 View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John G Peace 27 Aug 1889 Kirkwall Orkney, Scotland 27 May 1921 Buffalo, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Alice S Peont 1 Nov 1891 St Margarets Hope, Orkney, Scotland 31 Mar 1920 Dor, Massachusetts View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Mary Stephen Powelson 16 Mar 1885 Birsay, Orkney Islands, Scotland 26 Dec 1916 New York City, NY View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John D Rosie 23 Oct 1872 Orkney, Scotland 19 May 1922 Arlington, Massachusetts View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Norman Leslie Rosie 20 Jul 1902 Axlington, Massachusetts 23 May 1922 Axlington, Massachusetts View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John James Ross 2 May 1888 Orkney, Scotland 5 Apr 1921 Chicago, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Peter B Sabiston 25 May 1889 Orkney, Scotland 21 Mar 1925 Oregon View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Helen J Schofield 8 Dec 1852 Stromness, Orkney Island 16 Aug 1919 Rochester, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Margaret C Scott 4 Dec 1896 Chicago, Illinois 21 Feb 1920 Detroit, Michigan View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Oliver Scott 28 Nov 1870 Orkney, Scotland 5 Aug 1919 Yonkers, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Oliver Scott 8 Nov 1870 Orkney, Scotland 20 Feb 1924 Yonkers, NY View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 David Seater 27 Jul 1887 Orkney, Scotland 16 Nov 1920 Racine, Wisconsin View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Agnes Findlay Shearer 10 Mar 1893 Hoboken, NE, New Jersey 8 Dec 1924 New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Bowen Shearer 19 Oct 1885 Kirkwall, Orkney Islands, Scotland 8 Dec 1924 NY City, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Samuel Shearer 23 Jan 1849 Orkney Islands, Scotland 26 May 1920 Duluth, Minnesota View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Benjamin Shuster 22 Dec 1893 Walma, Russia 12 Oct 1920 Orkney, Penna View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Sinclair 5 Aug 1857 Orkney Islands, Scotland 8 Jun 1923 St Paul, Minnesota View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Mary Jane Smith 19 Sep 1879 Orkney Islands, Scotland 31 Mar 1920 San Francisco, California View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Thomas Spence 7 Sep 1880 Orkney, Scotland 10 Aug 1922 Racine, Wisconsin View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Charles B Stuart 18 Jul 1892 Kirkwall, Orkney, Iles 3 Aug 1922 Clifton, Arizona View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Sutherland Simpson Sutherland 29 Jul 1891 Orkney, Scotland 17 Aug 1921 Chicago, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Swannie 11 Mar 1890 Orkney Islo, Scotland 12 Jul 1921 Bergenfield, New Jersey View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Mary Ann Swanson 27 Aug 1884 Longhope Orkney Islands, Scotland 16 Jul 1923 N York, New York View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 James C Taylor 11 Sep 1864 Orkney, Scotland 12 Jul 1923 Somerville, Mass View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John R Taylor 13 Jun 1857 Stronsay, Orkney, Scotland 23 Mar 1921 East Baton, Ill View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John R Taylor 13 Jun 1857 Stronbay, Orkney, Scotland 2 Apr 1914 Glencoe, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John R Taylor 13 Jun 1857 Stronsay, Orkney, Scotland 7 Apr 1920 Evanston, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Robertson Taylor 30 Jun 1857 Stronsay Orkney, Scotland 6 Mar 1923 Evanston, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Mary Taylor 27 May 1859 Stronsay, Orkney, Scotland 7 Apr 1920 Evanston 26, Illinois View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Bowie Thearer 19 Oct 1885 Kirkwall Orkney Irlands, Scotland 21 Jul 1917 Boston, Mass View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 Donald Beates Watt 3 May 1893 Lancaster, Pennsylvania 16 Mar 1922 Lancaster, Pennsylvania View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 William John Wilson 12 Nov 1873 Wrexham, Wales 1918 St Louis, Missouri View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 George Wishart 10 Feb 1889 Orkney, Scotland 10 Apr 1919 Kellogg, Idaho View Record Match quality: 1 out of 5 James Twatt Work 30 Jun 1876 Kiskwall, Orkney, Scotland 23 Mar 1921 San Diego, California

Dear Willie, Although I do not have info on the Sabiston family you were inquiring about, there were many in the Sabiston family who went from Orkney to the Great Lakes area bordering US and Canada. In fact the James Groat below, was likely one of those Orcadian men. The often worked the Great Lakes during the summer and wintered in OK. Of the list of people I would like the passport pictures of the following two, if you have them. John Mainland was my Gr-grandmother's first cousin. I am thinking that the passport pix may help me identify some of the untitled photos I have. I believe that the James Goat is part of my Barbara Groats family, with the R possibly standing for ROSIE? 1. Match quality: 1 out of 5 John Mainland 4 Jul 1874 Orkney, Scotland 24 Feb 1921 La Porte, Indiana 2. Match quality: 1 out of 5 James T R Groat 28 Aug 1880 Orkney Isles, Scotland 13 Apr 1920 Chicago, Illinois View Record Thanks, Marilyn **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Have a look at http://www.blurb.com/<http://www.blurb.com/>. This might serve your purpose. Allison in Mississauga ----- Original Message ----- From: R.A.(Dutch) Thompson<mailto:dutchink@pei.sympatico.ca> To: nsroots<mailto:nsroots@ednet.ns.ca> Cc: mariners@rootsweb.com<mailto:mariners@rootsweb.com> ; orkney@rootsweb.com<mailto:orkney@rootsweb.com> ; pei-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:pei-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: December 30, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: [PEI-ROOTS] book template Hi- I'm trying to find a way to corral the family tree info I've gathered to share with relatives- including photos etc- can anyone suggest a book template they've used that's not too complicated ? I'd like to see how the text and photos etc look when laid out properly- Thanks for any suggestions- Thompson in PEI ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PEI-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PEI-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello William, My Guthries don't seem to have many relations either. What Guthries do you have? Would they be from Stenness area? Maureen Robinson.

What happened to Mary Spence? The 1900 census entry says James was married -- but I don't see her there, with the family. Anyone know her parents? (Thanks for this, Willie!) _________ 1-1-09 2:58 PM, lmilam4395@aol.com wrote: > Thank you Willie! This James is a brother to William who married into my Stout line. We had none of this information. As it turns out James' brother William also moved to Chicago which is what caught my eye on this. Thanks again. > > Lori > ------------- > In a message dated 12/30/08 10:34:17 Central Standard Time, sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com writes: > > ... > > I have the following > > James married a Mary Spence born abt 1856 Canada. > > .... > Marriage Year: 1870 > Marital Status: Married > Years Married: 30 > Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois > Occupation: View Labourer > Household Members: > Name Age > James Sinclair 53 > James Sinclair 28 > Katherine Sinclair 16 > Malcolm Sinclair 14 > Jessie Sinclair 11 > > >

Thank you Willie! This James is a brother to William who married into my Stout line. We had none of this information. As it turns out James' brother William also moved to Chicago which is what caught my eye on this. Thanks again. Lori In a message dated 12/30/08 10:34:17 Central Standard Time, sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com writes: Not only are my Sinclair's not related to anyone but my Cromarty's Cloustons' and Guthrie's do not appear related to anyone either. Strange lot my ancestors. For anyone related to James Sinclair 28 Oct 1845 South Ronaldsay parents John Sinclair and Barbara Wishart I have the following James married a Mary Spence born abt 1856 Canada. James Sinclair was in the employ of the HBC from 9 November 1868 (HBCA A.32/53 fo. 163). According to the "Abstracts of Servants'" accounts, he was employed as a labourer in York Factory (district) until 1879 when it is noted that he returned to Europe. (In fact he returned to South Ronaldsay). He may have been at Fort Garry during parts of 1874-1876 and he was summer master at Severn post from 1876-1879 (HBCA B.239/g/46-49; B.235/g/1-7; B.239/u/3). He left South Ronaldsay and went to America in 1893. His son James went to America in 1891. Here he is in 1900 in the US James in the USA in 1900 Name: James Sinclair [James Sinclaire] Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 4, Cook, Illinois Age: 53 Birth Date: Aug 1847 Birthplace: Scotland Race: White Ethnicity: American Immigration Year: 1893 Relationship to head-of-house: Head Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Marriage Year: 1870 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 30 Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois Occupation: View Labourer Household Members: Name Age James Sinclair 53 James Sinclair 28 Katherine Sinclair 16 Malcolm Sinclair 14 Jessie Sinclair 11 I hope this is of use to someone. Now if I could only find information on my own Sinclair's Willie Sinclair ------------------ List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dutch Maybe the following Book Templates might be of some use help. I haven't used them myself as I have made my own narrative type books of various family lines. I think you should be able to customise these as well. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History.doc Family History Book Template 1 (Word format) http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History_2.doc Family History Book Template 2 (Word format) They are from http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/page3.html - at the bottom of the page. Regards. Susan NZ -----Original Message----- From: orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of R.A.(Dutch) Thompson Sent: Wednesday, 31 December 2008 2:48 a.m. To: nsroots Cc: mariners@rootsweb.com; orkney@rootsweb.com; pei-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ORKNEY] book template Hi- I'm trying to find a way to corral the family tree info I've gathered to share with relatives- including photos etc- can anyone suggest a book template they've used that's not too complicated ? I'd like to see how the text and photos etc look when laid out properly- Thanks for any suggestions- Thompson in PEI ------------------ List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

William, you mentioned the HBC servant records. Both my mother's father's father and my mother's father's mother's mother were Orcadians employed by HBC, he for a short time at York Factory, she as a servant in Fort Garry (approx 1848 to perhaps 1952 or 1853). Could you tell me how you accessed the HBC Abstracts of Servants accounts, please? I might have to break down and travel to Winnipeg some day to look at them, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know. Winnipeg is about 1,500 miles away! Many thanks in advance, and happy new year! David Palmquist Delta, BC Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:33:25 +0000 >From: "William Sinclair" <sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com> >Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] book template >To: orkney@rootsweb.com > >Isnip) >James Sinclair was in the employ of the HBC from 9 November 1868 >(HBCA A.32/53 fo. 163). According to the "Abstracts of Servants'" >accounts, he was employed as a labourer in York Factory (district) >until 1879 (snip)

Sandi, That is definitely the family described in the article. The names of the husband and wife agree, plus son John (Jack) born abt 1870, daughter Margaret b. abt 1882, (both alive in 1955). The location in Saanich is also in agreement. The article names the wife's mother and grandmother and provides some other details, and refers to a reunion with over 100 descendants in attendance in 1955. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandi Bellefeuille Sent: December 30, 2008 2:01 PM To: orkney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Willie Thomson Ken:   Here's a "maybe" from 1881 census:  As you can see, there is a Fanny Thom(p)son born 1869/70 & a Robert, born 1881...    William THOMPSON   M   Male   Scottish   51   Scotland   Farmer   Church of England   Margaret THOMPSON   M   Female   Scottish   40   Scotland   Church of England   David THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   23   British Columbia   Farmer   Church of England   Alexander THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   21   British Columbia   Farmer   Church of England   Richard THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   19   British Columbia   Farmer Son   Church of England   Walter THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   15   British Columbia   Church of England   Lizzie THOMPSON   Female   Scottish   14   British Columbia   Church of England   Fanny THOMPSON   Female   Scottish   11   British Columbia   Church of England   John THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   9   British Columbia   Church of England   Allan THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   8   British Columbia   Church of England   Grace THOMPSON   Female   Scottish   6   British Columbia   Church of England   Hugh THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   2   British Columbia   Church of England   Robert B THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   <1 Born: <Jun>; 10/12   British Columbia   Church of England  Source Information: Census Place (South and North), Saanich, Vancouver, British Columbia Family History Library Film   1375921 NA Film Number   C-13285 District   191 Sub-district   D Page Number   9 Household Number   39   Then a 1901 census:  District: BC VANCOUVER ISLAND (#3) Subdistrict: Victoria (South/Sud) I-1 Page 6 25   53 Thomson William M Head M Apr 5 1832 68 26 53 Thomson Margaret F Wife M Mar 16 1841 60 27 53 Thomson Alexander M Son S May 14 1858 42 28 53 Thomson Grace F Daughter S Jan 19 1876 25 29 53 Thomson B. Robert M Son S Jul 1 1880 20 30 53 Thomson G. Margaret F Daughter S Aug 22 1882 18   Unfortunately, we cannot look at the additional information from the 1881 census but looking at the original census form from 1901, we can see that William came from Scotland in 1854, Margaret in 1853 and his occupation was farmer. (www.automatedgenealogy.com)   Hope this is of some minimal help!   Sandi Bellefeuille, Mississauga, ON --- On Tue, 12/30/08, Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@shaw.ca> Subject: [ORKNEY] Willie Thomson To: "Query Orkney" <ORKNEY@rootsweb.com> Received: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 8:47 PM Listers, I have an article from a Vancouver newspaper from 1955, which is about a man named Willie Thomson who is described as being, in 1855, a "young Scottish ship's carpenter" who had some time previously been shipwrecked on the west coast of Vancouver Island and served some time as a slave of an Indian tribe. The article does not state that he was Orcadian, nor does it state that he was connected with Hudson's Bay Company, but it does say that he owed money to HBC. Since the name Thomson has some connections to Orkney, and because the HBC did take lots of Orkney men to Canada, I throw the name in and enquire whether any Lister thinks they can identify this Willie Thomson or, better yet, thinks they are related to him. The article doesn't have a lot of detail, but does describe his wife and two children who were aged 84 & 73 in 1955, so born about 1870 and 1881. It also describes the homestead he established near Victoria. Some vague mentions are also made of grandchildren Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada

Hi Isabella no I do not have Isabella in my tree. I think my Anne Guthrie is related to Solomon Guthrie, I have no proof of this just a little bit of circumstantial evidence, so I have not listed it in my tree. The reasons I am hopeful of this is, Solomon married Elizabeth Drummond, they had a daughter called Anne Guthrie who married Alexander Brown. They had a son called William Brown, who is living with my John Sinclair and Ann Guthrie in 1841 in Kirkhouse Eastside. There are very few, four I think Anne Guthrie's born in Orkney, so I am hopeful that William Brown was living with his aunt My Anne Guthrie. But not being able to prove it. Willie Sinclair 2008/12/30 Isabella Moreland <sable13@shaw.ca>: > I have a Robert Reid, b.Feb. 07, 1812 , father Thomas Reid, mother Isabella Guthrie. > Do you have Isabella in your tree ? > Isabella > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Sinclair <sensiblegrandad@googlemail.com> > Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:33 am > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] book template > To: orkney@rootsweb.com > >> Not only are my Sinclair's not related to anyone but my Cromarty's >> Cloustons' and Guthrie's do not appear related to anyone either. >> >> Strange lot my ancestors. >> >> For anyone related to James Sinclair 28 Oct 1845 South Ronaldsay >> parents John Sinclair and Barbara Wishart >> >> I have the following >> >> James married a Mary Spence born abt 1856 Canada. >> >> James Sinclair was in the employ of the HBC from 9 November 1868 (HBCA >> A.32/53 fo. 163). According to the "Abstracts of >> Servants'" accounts, >> he was employed as a labourer in York Factory (district) until 1879 >> when it is noted that he returned to Europe. (In fact he >> returned to >> South Ronaldsay). He may have been at Fort Garry during >> parts of >> 1874-1876 and he was summer master at Severn post from 1876-1879 (HBCA >> B.239/g/46-49; B.235/g/1-7; B.239/u/3). >> He left South Ronaldsay and went to America in 1893. His son James >> went to America in 1891. >> Here he is in 1900 in the US >> >> James in the USA in 1900 >> >> Name: James Sinclair >> [James Sinclaire] >> Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 4, Cook, Illinois >> Age: 53 >> Birth Date: Aug 1847 >> Birthplace: Scotland >> Race: White >> Ethnicity: American >> Immigration Year: 1893 >> Relationship to head-of-house: Head >> Father's Birthplace: Scotland >> Mother's Birthplace: Scotland >> Marriage Year: 1870 >> Marital Status: Married >> Years Married: 30 >> Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois >> Occupation: View Labourer >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> James Sinclair 53 >> James Sinclair 28 >> Katherine Sinclair 16 >> Malcolm Sinclair 14 >> Jessie Sinclair 11 >> >> I hope this is of use to someone. >> Now if I could only find information on my own Sinclair's >> >> >> Willie Sinclair >> ------------------ >> List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, >> Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Not only are my Sinclair's not related to anyone but my Cromarty's Cloustons' and Guthrie's do not appear related to anyone either. Strange lot my ancestors. For anyone related to James Sinclair 28 Oct 1845 South Ronaldsay parents John Sinclair and Barbara Wishart I have the following James married a Mary Spence born abt 1856 Canada. James Sinclair was in the employ of the HBC from 9 November 1868 (HBCA A.32/53 fo. 163). According to the "Abstracts of Servants'" accounts, he was employed as a labourer in York Factory (district) until 1879 when it is noted that he returned to Europe. (In fact he returned to South Ronaldsay). He may have been at Fort Garry during parts of 1874-1876 and he was summer master at Severn post from 1876-1879 (HBCA B.239/g/46-49; B.235/g/1-7; B.239/u/3). He left South Ronaldsay and went to America in 1893. His son James went to America in 1891. Here he is in 1900 in the US James in the USA in 1900 Name: James Sinclair [James Sinclaire] Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 4, Cook, Illinois Age: 53 Birth Date: Aug 1847 Birthplace: Scotland Race: White Ethnicity: American Immigration Year: 1893 Relationship to head-of-house: Head Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Marriage Year: 1870 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 30 Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois Occupation: View Labourer Household Members: Name Age James Sinclair 53 James Sinclair 28 Katherine Sinclair 16 Malcolm Sinclair 14 Jessie Sinclair 11 I hope this is of use to someone. Now if I could only find information on my own Sinclair's Willie Sinclair