Thankyou Marilyn Connects to my stuff as well, if you have any further info Willie please send on Cathy

Here is what I have from Alex Sinclair,: Descendants of Peter Sinclair 1 Peter Sinclair d: Bef. 1884 in Before wife . +Sinclair Anderson b: Abt. 1806 d: 1884 in Kirkhouse, Eastside, South Ronaldsay, OK Father: James Anderson Mother: Barbara Hoosack 2 James Sinclair .... +Margaret Horne ... 3 James Sinclair b: in Olad, OK, Scotland d: 1900 in Olad, OK, Scotland ....... +Margaret Sinclair b: 1858 Father: Isaac Sinclair Mother: Isabella Windwick ...... 4 James Sinclair b: 1888 in Braehead, Easthead, South Ronaldsay, OK d: 1970 .......... +Sarah Dass ......... 5 John Horne Sinclair b: in Cauldhame, South Ronaldsay ............ +Sarah Kennedy Wards b: in Burray, OK, Scotland Marilyn **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Hi All I am new to this list, live in Saskatchewan, Canada. My G-G-Great Grandmother was Margaret SINCLAIR who married Robert Maxwell GRAHAM said to have come from a long line of Robert Maxwell Grahams and there is six more (RMG) after him. There is some family legends about these two but would like to know more about their families if anyone recognizes them from the following information. Thank you very much for your time, Robert (Bob) Walde Neilburg, Saskatchewan >From a cousin "The Sinclair father's first name was Harry (one R in Hary) for two or three generations. An easy one to notice. They came from the Orkney Islands. There was a record of them still living there in the late 1700's, or possible even early 1800's. The three Sinclair girls were Margaret, Isabella and Jane. All three lived with Robert Maxwell Graham in a suite above the bake shop in St. John, New Brunswick. Margaret and Robert were married in January," From Daniel F Johnson : Volume 39 Number 854 Date : June 12, 1876 County : Saint John Place : Saint John Newspaper : The Daily Telegraph The language of the text is the original used in the newspaper entry and as transcribed by Daniel F. Johnson. Records acquired by the Provincial Archives are not translated from the language in which they originate. d. Clarendon (Charlotte Co.) 4th inst., Margaret GRAHAM w/o Robert GRAHAM, age 61, left husband, four children. She was a native of Perthshire, Scotland. Sent by a helpful NB researcher. 1 Robert Maxwell Graham b/1815 Scotland wife Margaret Sinclair married 1842 emmigrated same year 1842 lived on bds Carleton& Dorchester St. Saint John baker by trade Sinclair: Births & baptisms, Orkney http://www.cursiter.com/txt-exe-files/Sinclair.txt Sinclair: Births & baptisms, Orkney International Genealogical Index (R) - 1994 Edition - Version 3.06 06 OCT 1997 HOLDING FILE ENTRIES Page 1 ============================================================================ =============================================== Names (Sex) Event Date/Place Margaret Charlotta SINCLAIR (F)....... C: 17 Jul 1815 Father: Hary SINCLAIR Stromness, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Janet MOWAT Jane Johnston SINCLAIR (F)............ C: 20 Jun 1819 Father: Hary SINCLAIR Stromness, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Janet MOWAT Isabella SINCLAIR (F)................. C: 14 Sep 1810 Father: Hary SINCLAIR Stromness, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Janet MOWAT Hary SINCLAIR (M)..................... C: 4 Jun 1732 Father: Jeremiah SINCLAIR Stromness, Orkney, Scotland Mother: Margaret ROBERTSON

James was the son of Thomas and Barbara Wishart. Elizabeth's maternal and paternal grandparents were William Flett and Thomas Halcro. There is a photograph of James Wishart and their house at fort Gary. Page 39-50 with a headstone and stories and pictures of James and Elizabeths children and their families. http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=915804 Willie

page 426-427 sons name William David Spence. http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=4108434 Willie Sinclair

Forgot the link http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=4108092 Willie Sinclair

page 84 to 88 with a photograph of John. Willie

page 278 http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=889638 I apologise for the numerous e-mails but I am sending them when I find them. If this is inappropriate let me know and I will store them first and send them in a batch. Willie

Link to the Groundwater Family pages 278, 279 and 280 with photographs of the family. http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=859978 Willie

Janet Flett Mckay 1857-1947 Story and picture http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=917781 Willie

I am sure some one will recognise something here. Margaret Brown was born in 1885 at Fort Simpson, N.W.T. She was the eldest daughter of Magnus Cromarty Brown and his wife, Ann Norn, who moved to Athabasca in 1893. Her father was a Hudson's Bay Co. boat builder who had come to Canada from the Orkney Islands in [1862]. In 1917, on the death of her sister Mary Wright, Margaret became the guardian of Mary's children: Anne and George. She lived in Athabasca from 1893 until her death in 1956. She was a member of All Saints Anglican Church. ============================================================================ James Anderson of Stenness, Orkney, who was baptised in 1775, served with the Hudson's Bay Co. at Brandon House. He married a Salteaux woman, Mary (Maria), and they had 14 children. James Anderson and his family later settled on land along the Red River. James was buried in Portage LaPrairie in 1856; his wife Mary, in 1854. John, the eldest son of James and Mary Anderson, was born September 4, 1804. He also worked for the Hudson's Bay Co. John married Mary Desmarais and the couple had 13 children, two of whom died in infancy. John settled close to his parents on the Red River. He died in 1883 and his wife, in 1884. Charles Thomas, the 9th child of John and Mary Anderson, was baptised in 1840. In 1853, he and his entire family moved to Portage LaPrairie where he met and later married Maria Cook in 1859. One of their 13 children, James, settled in Medicine Hat. Charles passed away in 1909. James Thomas Anderson, the 9th child of Charles and Maria was born in Manitoba on March 13, 1874. James and his brother Cohn both suffered from tuberculosis and were advised to move to a drier climate, so both joined the Dominion of Canada Surveying Crew and travelled extensively in Western Canada. James later settled in Medicine Hat. He was involved in the cattle drive at the site which later became known as Drowning Ford, where numerous cattle were lost, and later was employed with one of Medicine Hat's earliest residents, James Sanderson. James Francis Sanderson (1848-1902), who was born in Eastern Canada, accompanied his family on buffalo hunting expeditions to Western Canada. He participated in the opposition to the Riel Rebellion and was taken prisoner by Riel's men. In 1872, he married Maria McKay, the daughter of Edward McKay, a leading Indian trader, who had settled in the Cypress Hills but continued to travel the western prairies and hunt buffalo. They had 4 children, Caroline, Owen, Duncan and Mary. In 1882, the Sandersons' and McKays' moved to Medicine Hat. Here James Francis worked on construction of the CPR, ran a bull herd and collected buffalo bones to be sent east to be made into fertilizer. He also was agent for the coal mine in 1899, held the ice contract for the CPR and was wolf inspector for the district. In addition, he also ran a profitable livery stable. He was considered an expert on Indian culture and wrote a series of articles in 1894, entitled "Indian Tales of the Canadian Prairies". He was among one of the most highly regarded and influential pioneers of the area. As part of his duties while working for James Sanderson, James Anderson was to protect and escort Mary Sanderson, their well-educated daughter. James and Mary married in St. Barnabas church in 1900, and homesteaded in the Golden Valley Farm area and at Finn's Lake. Their 7 children, Charles, Isabelle, Mary, Bertha, Howard, Owen and Dora, were all raised in that area. Both James and Mary were musical and music was very important to their family. They were one of the few families to own a piano, and their love of music was passed to their descendants. Mary passed away in 1952 and James, in 1961. Bertha Laura Sanderson, born October 8, 1907, married Daniel Harry Hogg (born 1903) in June, 1937. Their son, Nelson (April 1, 1939), compiled information about the family and donated it to the archives. ================================================================================================================ Clara Linklater Tizya was born July 15, 1913 at Rampart House, Yukon to Archie Linklater and Katherine Netro. Her father was of Scottish descent from the Orkney Islands, and her mother was Ninsyag and Vuntut Gwitchin. She grew up nomadically between Rampart House, Dawson City and Old Crow in the Yukon, and Fort Yukon in Alaska - wherever life's demands took her family. Clara married Peter Tizya, son of John Tizya and Sarah Moses, in 1930 at St. Luke's Church in Old Crow. Together they lived a traditional lifestyle and raised, over a span of 40 years, 13 children: Katherine, Lena, Helen, Mildred, Archie, Ethel, Trudy, Douglas, Lula-Belle, Rosalee, Charles, Stewart and Lulu Belle. The Tizyas left Old Crow in 1946 to accommodate their children's education and made their home between Carcross and Whitehorse. Clara left the Yukon in 1966 to begin a new life in Vancouver, B.C. After 30 years of city life she returned and bought herself a little corner of the Yukon in Tagish and began commuting between her families in the Yukon and Vancouver. Clara had a passion for reading, writing and travelling and she had a devotion to the church. She was also a proud grandmother to 29 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren. Clara Tizya died in Whitehorse August 16, 1998. ================================================================= John Farley was born in 1837 in what was then London Township (subsequently Nissouri Township, County of Middlesex). His parents, Turner and Georgina (Phillip) Farley were born, respectively, in Ireland and Quebec. In his youth, Farley moved to St. Thomas to live with his uncle James Farley, Clerk of the Peace for the County of Elgin. From 1860 to 1865 John Farley studied law with Edward Horton. He was called to the bar in 1866 and established a law practice in St. Thomas.By 1879, Farley had entered into partnership with William Burton Doherty and George W. Bain under the name Farley, Doherty & Bain. By 1881, Bain had left the firm, which was now known as Farley & Doherty. By 1890, Farley had taken a new partner, Norman McDonald. The firm Farley & McDonald had dissolved by 1891, and Farley continued in sole practice until 1895 when he entered a partnership with H.B. Travers under the name Farley & Travers.By 1901 the Farley & Travers partnership had dissolved and Farley was engaged in business with William McLaws, under the name Farley & McLaws. This partnership, too, was short-lived, and from ca 1904 to 1912, Farley operated a sole practice. In June 1912 he formed a partnership with John D. Shaw, a lawyer with an established practice in Rodney, Ontario. Farley & Shaw operated offices in St. Thomas and Rodney.Following Farley's death in 1920, Shaw continued in sole practice until 1929, when he engaged as partner his nephew D.M. Shaw. Shaw & Shaw maintained three offices, in St. Thomas, Rodney and Ridgetown. John D. Shaw retired in 1931, and D.M. Shaw removed the practice to Ridgetown.John Farley was appointed Queen's Council in 1885. He served on St. Thomas City Council 1874-1875 and 1884-1886. In 1890 Farley was appointed chairman of the committee responsible for building the City's first waterworks, and served on the Water Commission from 1891 to 1900. He served for three years on the St. Thomas Board of Education and was for several years an examiner of teachers in the City. He was President of the Reform Association of both East and West Elgin and was a member of the St. Thomas Golf and Country Club and the St. Thomas Granite Curling Club. With his wife Fannie A. (Berry) Farley (died 1914) he had a son and four daughters. Farley died on July 10, 1920. Farley's great grandson is the prominent Canadian author Farley Mowat.John D. Shaw was born in 1866 in Aldborough Township near Rodney. His parents Dougald and Christina Shaw emmigrated to Canada from the Orkney Islands. Shaw attended primary school at Rodney and high school at St. Thomas Model School. He qualified as a teacher and taught at various rural schools in the vicinity of Rodney and Muirkirk. In the 1890s Shaw attended the University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall Law School. He was called to the bar in 1896 and established a practice in Rodney, where he also served as Village Clerk. In June 1912 he formed a partnership with John Farley, and operated the Farley & Shaw office in Rodney. In 1914 he moved to St. Thomas, where he lived and practiced law until retiring in 1931. Shaw served as an elder at Knox Presbyterian Church in St. Thomas and was a member of the St. Thomas I.O.O.F. Lodge, the St. Thomas Golf and Country Club, the St. Thomas Granite Curling Club and the St. Thomas Bowling Club. With his wife Mabel (McCorkell) Shaw (died 1922) he had two sons and three daughters. Shaw died suddenly in London, Ontario on March 31, 1940.Business arrangments appear to have been quite informal, existing in the absence of formal partnership agreements. ============================================================ David Geddes, ca. 1970, of Hildenborough, Kent, England wrote a biography of his ancestor, David Geddes (1751-1811). The elder David Geddes immigrated to Quebec City from the Orkneys in 1768. In Quebec, he worked for his uncle James Johnston of the prominent merchant firm of Johnston and Purss from 1768 to 1777. In 1777, he was appointed paymaster to the army of General Burgoyne. When this army surrendered to the Americans, he accompanied them into captivity. David Geddes then became responsible for arranging for the large sums of money needed to maintain this army and was allowed to cross British and American lines to obtain money from British authorities. In 1781, he returned to the Orkneys where he became a ship owner. In 1791, he was appointed Agent for the Hudson's Bay Company in which capacity he contracted hundreds of Orkney men for the Company's service. ========================== John Walter came to Edmonton from the Orkney Islands in 1870 as an employee of the Hudson's Bay Company. In 1875 he started his own business and over the years he was involved in building boats, ferries, and carriages. He also operated two lumber mills and a coal mine. He served on the first council of the Town of Strathcona and was a member of the Public School Board. The area where he lived and worked, Walterdale, is named for him. ================================ Mangus Moar (1802-1878) and his wife Jane Spence (18-?) immigrated from Brisay, the Orkney Islands, Scotland to New Perth, Prince Edward Island in 1839. They had six children: William, John, Mary, James, George, and Micipsa. The Moar family lived on the Baldwin's Road near New Perth. George Moar did not marry and was a teacher from 1873 to 1874 at the New Perth School. John Moar married Eliza Higgins and they did not have any children. John was the owner of one share in the New Perth Dairying Company in 1898. Ernest Moar (1882 - 1959), son of Micipsa, married Catherine MacFadyen (1891-1933). Ernest belonged to the Order of Odd Fellows in 1913 in Montague. ========================================================= Donald George Sutherland was born 12 April 1839 in Toronto, Ontario to Captain James Sutherland of Hoy, Orkney Island, and Margaret Robinson Sutherland of Lincolnshire, England. Sutherland received his early educational training at the Hamilton Public and Grammar schools. Thereafter, he entered Victoria College, graduating in 1859. Following the completion of his courses he began the study of law, passing as a solicitor in 1862. After practising for approximately one year, he felt himself drawn strongly toward the ministerial calling. He entered the Wesleyan Methodist church as probationer, and received his ordination in 1868. He was stationed at Milton, Oakville, Dundas, Brampton, Kingston, Gananoque, Galt, Simcoe, Clinton, St. Thomas, and London. In 1867 he received his MA, and in 1873 his LL.B. from the University of Toronto. He received his B.D. from Victoria University in 1878. In 1862 Mr. Sutherland was appointed ensign in the 8th battalion, Wentworth. With respect to offices held by him, it may be said that he was financial secretary of districts in 1874-1875, 1881-1882; secretary of the London Conference in 1883-1884; chairman of the St. Thomas district in 1883; and a member of the general conferences in 1878-1883. In 1872 Reverend Sutherland married Helena Aikins, eldest daughter of the Honourable J.C. Aikins. Together they had four children. Sutherland died in 1895. A Cyclopaedia of Canadian biography: being chiefly men of the time : a collection of persons distinguished in professional and political life : leaders in the commerce and industry of Canada, and successful pioneers. Toronto: Rose Publishing Co., 1886. ================================== James Garson Bews, 1871-1936, was born in Orkney, Scotland, and came to Canada in 1889. He worked near Edmonton, Alberta, then for the Lineham Lumber Company at Okotoks and the Quorn Ranch. In 1899 he married Bella Cameron, ?-1901. In 1904 he married Agnes Bridget Clancy O'Donoghue, 1865-1941, a widow from Kansas. They first lived on her homestead southwest of High River, just east of Longview, then purchased the Sullivan (Y Cross) Ranch up the Highwood River. The Bews had three children, Marguerite (Derrick), James Joseph, ?-1982, and John. In 1937 Joe Bews married Josephine Rimmer, 1916-2008, and they had five children, William J., Lenore J. (McLean), 1939- , Tom J., Joseph M., and Celia Mary (Allpress). I will send other posts to reduce the size. Willie Sinclair

Hi Marion I also found this, some Orcadian names here also. The City of Edmonton literally grew out of Fort Edmonton. After the Palliser and Hind expeditions' reports, interest in the West increased both in Canada and Britain. Businessmen seeking opportunities began to travel to the North West Territories. The Canadian government offered various incentives to promote development, whether through colonization companies or industry. One of the first movements toward a city life out of the fort was the establishment of a Methodist mission by George McDougall. In 1871, he claimed land for the mission and parsonage, and actually built the buildings. It is supposed that the claim was north of the fort because of where the McDougall church is. His son David took another claim, this one east of the HBC reserve line. Others immediately followed him: including Colin Fraser, John Sinclair, Donald McDonald, James Rowland, William Rowland, Kenneth McDonald, James Kirkness, John Fraser, James Gullion and George Gullion. All were ex-HBC men and most were Métis. Donald Ross took a claim which became the Ross Estate. Malcolm Groat, an ex-HBC man, took up a claim west of the HBC Reserve. Beyond the Groat estate and the St. Albert road, John Norris and R. Logan, also ex-HBC men, put up a trading store. Willie 2009/1/6 <MSiperek@aol.com>: > Here is a possibility from: > _http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/pageant/23/basdelariviere1.shtml_ (http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/pageant/23/basdelariviere1.shtml) > Perhaps the George Groat is his father? These are all Orcadian names. > "On October 1 1795, Edward Clouston of the English Company arrived at Bas de > la Riviere to establish a post. He chose to build at Pointe au Foutre and the > post is called Pointe au Foutre House. (HBCA B4a 1795). Clouston recorded > the servants as this post as David Michael, Peter Taylor, George Groat, Samuel > Harvey, John Short, Thomas Firth, George Spence, John Mowat, Magnus Sinclair > and an Indian David Sanders. > In 1796, Clouston was attacked by a hostile Indian and he ordered a pallisade > built. As the tension continued both he and his successor ordered a watch > kept.........." > I have 7 George Groats from South Ronaldsay, but not that one. This is from > familysearch: > George Groat b-1799 Scotland married Charlotte Spence Metis b-1809 North > West Territories. > Here is my line, as you can see there are some ?? marks indicating theories: > Descendants of George Groat > > 1 George Groat b: Bet. 1720 - 1735 in estimated date > . +Jannett ?? Sinclair > 2 Malcolm Groat b: March 13, 1750/51 in Herston or Clodihall, Sandwich, > South Ronaldasy, OK, Scotland d: Aft. 1821 > .... +Gilley Barnet b: May 05, 1755 d: Aft. 1821 m: June 09, 1783 in > Clodihall, Sandwich, South Ronaldsay, OK, Scotland Father: John Barnet > ... 3 Barbara Groat b: 1789 d: Aft. 1851 > ....... +James Sinclair b: July 18, 1789 d: May 06, 1870 in South Parish, > South Ronaldsay, OK m: January 02, 1816 in Clodihall, Sandwich, OK > Father: John Sinclair Mother: Barbara Annal > ... 3 George Groat b: November 29, 1791 in Cools, South Ronaldsay, OK d: > February 19, 1857 in Cools, South Ronaldsay, OK > ....... +Isobel Sinclair b: Bet. 1791 - 1795 m: January 14, 1817 in > Orkney, Scotland Father: John Sinclair Mother: Barbara Annal > ... 3 Malcolm Groat b: July 06, 1794 d: August 08, 1880 > ....... +Janet Norquay m: October 15, 1822 in Cledi Hall, Sandwich, South > Ronaldsay, OK Scotland Father: William Norquay Mother: Isabella > Sinclair > ... 3 Alexander Groat b: Abt. 1798 > ... 3 Janet ?? Groat > 2 John ?? Groat b: March 1760 > ... 3 Isaac ? Groat > ....... +Jannet Groat b: 1785 d: October 27, 1862 > 2 Jannet ?? Groat b: Abt. 1760 d: 1863 in Sandwick, South Ronaldsay, OK > > .... +Unknown Thomson > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > ------------------ > List Archives, information on contacting list administrator, Subscribing and UnSubscribing can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORKNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a possibility from: _http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/pageant/23/basdelariviere1.shtml_ (http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/pageant/23/basdelariviere1.shtml) Perhaps the George Groat is his father? These are all Orcadian names. "On October 1 1795, Edward Clouston of the English Company arrived at Bas de la Riviere to establish a post. He chose to build at Pointe au Foutre and the post is called Pointe au Foutre House. (HBCA B4a 1795). Clouston recorded the servants as this post as David Michael, Peter Taylor, George Groat, Samuel Harvey, John Short, Thomas Firth, George Spence, John Mowat, Magnus Sinclair and an Indian David Sanders. In 1796, Clouston was attacked by a hostile Indian and he ordered a pallisade built. As the tension continued both he and his successor ordered a watch kept.........." I have 7 George Groats from South Ronaldsay, but not that one. This is from familysearch: George Groat b-1799 Scotland married Charlotte Spence Metis b-1809 North West Territories. Here is my line, as you can see there are some ?? marks indicating theories: Descendants of George Groat 1 George Groat b: Bet. 1720 - 1735 in estimated date . +Jannett ?? Sinclair 2 Malcolm Groat b: March 13, 1750/51 in Herston or Clodihall, Sandwich, South Ronaldasy, OK, Scotland d: Aft. 1821 .... +Gilley Barnet b: May 05, 1755 d: Aft. 1821 m: June 09, 1783 in Clodihall, Sandwich, South Ronaldsay, OK, Scotland Father: John Barnet ... 3 Barbara Groat b: 1789 d: Aft. 1851 ....... +James Sinclair b: July 18, 1789 d: May 06, 1870 in South Parish, South Ronaldsay, OK m: January 02, 1816 in Clodihall, Sandwich, OK Father: John Sinclair Mother: Barbara Annal ... 3 George Groat b: November 29, 1791 in Cools, South Ronaldsay, OK d: February 19, 1857 in Cools, South Ronaldsay, OK ....... +Isobel Sinclair b: Bet. 1791 - 1795 m: January 14, 1817 in Orkney, Scotland Father: John Sinclair Mother: Barbara Annal ... 3 Malcolm Groat b: July 06, 1794 d: August 08, 1880 ....... +Janet Norquay m: October 15, 1822 in Cledi Hall, Sandwich, South Ronaldsay, OK Scotland Father: William Norquay Mother: Isabella Sinclair ... 3 Alexander Groat b: Abt. 1798 ... 3 Janet ?? Groat 2 John ?? Groat b: March 1760 ... 3 Isaac ? Groat ....... +Jannet Groat b: 1785 d: October 27, 1862 2 Jannet ?? Groat b: Abt. 1760 d: 1863 in Sandwick, South Ronaldsay, OK .... +Unknown Thomson **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Debby here again, I did find another Thomas Reid born 1830 in Shapinsay Orkney. Father James Reid, mother Isabella Downie, children James, Robert Patterson, Harriet Traill, William Trail and Thomas. All except Thomas were born in Kirkwall & St. Ola where their parents were married in 1815. I sobella appears to be the daughter of a James Downie and Christian Turnball. My Thomas Reid married Catherine McGregor in Aberdeen and their daughter Harriet Reid was my great-great grandmother. Her daughter Mary Hutcheson Webster was my great grandmother. Her daughter annie Watson Webster was my grandmother. Her daughter Muriel Joyce Eyre was my mother. These Reid, Downie and Turnball families I am trying to make contact with. Regards Debby

Hi, I am a descendant of a Thomas Reid a Wood Turner (married a Catherine McGregor in Aberdeen) who was born in Orkney in 1830. He gives his island of birth in some of the Censuses as Shapinsay but the only Thomas matching his birth date was born to a John (?) and Elizabeth Reid in Papa Westray (is this on Shapinsay?). I am documenting my Thomas Reid family history and would love to chat with anyone related to these Reid's. Regards Debby (in Melbourne Australia)

This web page below has a short biography of James Logie Harcus and a photograph it is provided by Brian Budge http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/In%20memory/miscellaneous/james_harcus_biog.htm Willie Sinclair

I have found the following in the Canadian Archives. It relates to a George Groat supposedly born 1800 South Ronaldsay. He went to The Red River Settlement on or around 1827. His mother and father are not named. I have copies of the affidavit if someone is related to him I can e-mail them. I would also appreciate his parents details and any further information on him. RG15 , Interior , Series D-II-8-a , Volume 1321 , Reel C-14928 , Access code: 90 File Title: Scrip affidavit for Groat, George; born: 1800; father and mother: Scots; original white settlers from Orkney settled in Red River Country in 1829. Finding Aid number: 15-19 Willie Sinclair

If anyone has a connection to the family described in the messages below from Sandi and myself, either in Orkney or in British Columbia, and would be interested in the newspaper article I described below, please contact me. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Harrison [mailto:kenharrison43@shaw.ca] Sent: December 30, 2008 11:33 PM To: 'rjsbell@rogers.com'; 'orkney@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [ORKNEY] Willie Thomson Sandi, That is definitely the family described in the article. The names of the husband and wife agree, plus son John (Jack) born abt 1870, daughter Margaret b. abt 1882, (both alive in 1955). The location in Saanich is also in agreement. The article names the wife's mother and grandmother and provides some other details, and refers to a reunion with over 100 descendants in attendance in 1955. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandi Bellefeuille Sent: December 30, 2008 2:01 PM To: orkney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Willie Thomson Ken:   Here's a "maybe" from 1881 census:  As you can see, there is a Fanny Thom(p)son born 1869/70 & a Robert, born 1881...    William THOMPSON   M   Male   Scottish   51   Scotland   Farmer   Church of England   Margaret THOMPSON   M   Female   Scottish   40   Scotland   Church of England   David THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   23   British Columbia   Farmer   Church of England   Alexander THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   21   British Columbia   Farmer   Church of England   Richard THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   19   British Columbia   Farmer Son   Church of England   Walter THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   15   British Columbia   Church of England   Lizzie THOMPSON   Female   Scottish   14   British Columbia   Church of England   Fanny THOMPSON   Female   Scottish   11   British Columbia   Church of England   John THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   9   British Columbia   Church of England   Allan THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   8   British Columbia   Church of England   Grace THOMPSON   Female   Scottish   6   British Columbia   Church of England   Hugh THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   2   British Columbia   Church of England   Robert B THOMPSON   Male   Scottish   <1 Born: <Jun>; 10/12   British Columbia   Church of England  Source Information: Census Place (South and North), Saanich, Vancouver, British Columbia Family History Library Film   1375921 NA Film Number   C-13285 District   191 Sub-district   D Page Number   9 Household Number   39   Then a 1901 census:  District: BC VANCOUVER ISLAND (#3) Subdistrict: Victoria (South/Sud) I-1 Page 6 25   53 Thomson William M Head M Apr 5 1832 68 26 53 Thomson Margaret F Wife M Mar 16 1841 60 27 53 Thomson Alexander M Son S May 14 1858 42 28 53 Thomson Grace F Daughter S Jan 19 1876 25 29 53 Thomson B. Robert M Son S Jul 1 1880 20 30 53 Thomson G. Margaret F Daughter S Aug 22 1882 18   Unfortunately, we cannot look at the additional information from the 1881 census but looking at the original census form from 1901, we can see that William came from Scotland in 1854, Margaret in 1853 and his occupation was farmer. (www.automatedgenealogy.com)   Hope this is of some minimal help!   Sandi Bellefeuille, Mississauga, ON --- On Tue, 12/30/08, Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@shaw.ca> Subject: [ORKNEY] Willie Thomson To: "Query Orkney" <ORKNEY@rootsweb.com> Received: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 8:47 PM Listers, I have an article from a Vancouver newspaper from 1955, which is about a man named Willie Thomson who is described as being, in 1855, a "young Scottish ship's carpenter" who had some time previously been shipwrecked on the west coast of Vancouver Island and served some time as a slave of an Indian tribe. The article does not state that he was Orcadian, nor does it state that he was connected with Hudson's Bay Company, but it does say that he owed money to HBC. Since the name Thomson has some connections to Orkney, and because the HBC did take lots of Orkney men to Canada, I throw the name in and enquire whether any Lister thinks they can identify this Willie Thomson or, better yet, thinks they are related to him. The article doesn't have a lot of detail, but does describe his wife and two children who were aged 84 & 73 in 1955, so born about 1870 and 1881. It also describes the homestead he established near Victoria. Some vague mentions are also made of grandchildren Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada

Hi Elaine I'm glad you found the book template useful. For those who might also be interested there is no downloading of anything required, merely use "Save As" to save the Word file to wherever you want on your own hard-drive, then just use it as you would a normal Word file filling in your own data and pics. It is simple to use and easy to customise to suit your own style. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History.doc> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History_2.doc> from http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/page3.html> Regards Susan NZ -----Original Message----- From: orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orkney-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Heather Johnson Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 8:14 a.m. To: orkney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] re [PEI-ROOTS] BOOK TEMPLATE Thank you Elaine..... I've had a quick look and they appear to be just "up my street" ...... I've long meant to do a 'book' so I shall have a go. I have hard/paper files that are done in that sort of format, I suppose .... sheets of text and pics within plastic sleeves but a 'book' would look a lot more special.

I have downloaded this template and after 2 and a half hours my computor just did not install and I then tried the other suggested template which was suggested on the list by from Susan and it downloads in a couple of minutes, is in word format, very simple to use and consists of about 20 odd pages which explains where various items go plus suggestions of what to put. I fully suggest that this one is a good basic plus it is very adaptable http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History.doc http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/Family_History_2.doc They are from http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiburlgs/page3.html Regards Elaine