I am reading old documents and histories and come across words I don't understand. I'm hoping someone from Orkney can (please) help me out! 1)What is an odal property? 2)Are odallers the same as farmers? 3)In legal documents of the 1600's, what does "is on an Assize" mean? 4) in a document from 1669 "John and his wife, give state, saving liferent of his mother to Thomas....." (Maybe "life rent" is two words....??) 5) What exactly was the Uthell Book? I have 3 pages copied from the book, and it appears to be lists of current landholders....but what does "land Uthell" mean exactly after every entry? For example "two penney land Uthell" Thanks for your help....Jane in New Hampshire, USA

Looking for info on Ann Bichan married William Kirkness Sept. 1881 in Deerness, Orkney. They had 2 sons John b. 1883 and Thomas b ? Both these sons married 2 Budge sisters and moved to Canada in 1903. Any info greatly appreciated. Heather Manitoba, Canada

Hi Folks, I wanted to let everyone know, especially those with a genealogy web site, that Rootsweb is now offering surname query boards for sponsors and donors. Sponsorship begins at $24.00 a year and entitles you to two surname query boards. To become a sponsor visit http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html I have revised the forum at my website even though my query board was similar to the one offered by Rootsweb because now with a Rootsweb query board when a message is posted it is contributed to the vast genealogy archive that is being gathered by the Rootsweb volunteer cooperative. I have enclosed the query board within a frame. You can see it at http://rendall.net/discuss/ In order to encourage people to become sponsors, I will send a set of my html frame templates to anyone who requests it when they become sponsors and sign up for a query board with Rootsweb. If you are already a sponsor, I will gladly forward the templates to you as well, contact me directly at anne@rendall.net Regards, Anne Rendall Rendall dot Net http://rendall.net Volunteer Listowner Orkney-L Volunteer host OrkneyGen Web -> http://rendall.net/orkney

Ann, Would it be possible to get a surname lookup from Gregor Lamb's book? I am looking for HEWISON or one of its other forms HOWIESON(E) HUGHISON HUISON. Thanks Mike Bostwick

I have through ROOTSWEB set up a LIST "CADDELL-L" for our surname(s). It is now active. This covers all the variations worldwide. This msg is being sent to all lists where family have been known to reside or have resided. If you have any questions, please contact me. Bill Caddell bcaddell@hcnews.com

> Reply-to: "Karen Sullivan" <kassul@bigpond.com> > Is there a place called ARIE or AVIE in Orkney, or should it be EVIE? > My ancestor Jane MILLAR/MILLER came to Australia in 1855 and the > shipping record states she is from Arie, Orkney. She was born about > 1829, her parents being John & Rebecca MILLAR/MILLER. > Would anyone have access to the 1841 &/or 1851 census for the above > area & be able to do a search on them for me. > Hi! This might be them in the 1851 census of Evie and Rendall: of "Croan" Miller, John hd M 62 Pensioner, seaman's fund, b. Evie Rebecca w M 65 Pensioner's wife , b. Evie William s u 27 Pensioner's son, fisherman, b. Evie Jane d u 23 Pensioner's daughter, b. Evie James s u 21 Pensioner's son, b. Evie Mary d u 18 Pensioner's daughter, b. Evie Happy Hunting! Stephen

Is there a place called ARIE or AVIE in Orkney, or should it be EVIE? My ancestor Jane MILLAR/MILLER came to Australia in 1855 and the shipping record states she is from Arie, Orkney. She was born about 1829, her parents being John & Rebecca MILLAR/MILLER. Would anyone have access to the 1841 &/or 1851 census for the above area & be able to do a search on them for me. Any help is appreciated. Karen Sullivan Sydney Australia kassul@bigpond.com

I tried to respond privately but it bounced. Blake Allan Pam Thomson wrote: > > After about 30 minutes of typing, my connection to Netscape dropped > and lost my previous attempt to get this information out to you. Hit > the SAVE button - I know, I know! > BTW, does anyone know why my two families, the WALLS/WALLACE and > THOMSON families rarely married each other? Was there some kind of > feud between them? > I've been compiling a list of Thomsons with a connection to South > Ronaldsay in the Orkney Islands. > After 30 years of teaching, I thought I'd seen all the possible > variations of the name - my personal favourite is Thomspon- but those > creative spellers in the previous centuries have the modern ones beat! > The ones I've found are Tamson, Tameson, Tamison, Thomson, Thomison, > Thomesone, Thomsone, Thompson, Tomison, Tompson. I know that many of > these families have retained the variant spelling but I discovered > that one family may have several different spellings, depending on who > recorded the event. > I also know that first names were similarly treated - today's > favourite is Pnellypay!- as well as other last names like Tait/Teat > and Norquay/Norqwoy. I have tried to take the information available on > Walt Custer's wonderful website at > > > http://www.cursiter.com/ > > > and arrange the people into families of Thomson children. I have a > list of over 100 families (and I'd typed in about 37 when I lost my > last effort!) and if they fit with someone you're researching, please > contact me and I'll send you the children's names and birthdates so > you can compare them to what you have. > The first 19 are children whose parents are both Thomsons or where > there is only one parent listed. After that, I list them > alphabetically by the mother's last name. > The format is this: > Mother's full name, Father's given name(s), date of marriage or birth > of first child if marriage not known. > 1. No Mother Listed (but may be Jean BERSTOUN for abt 1749), > Alexander, 1751-59 and also 1851 > 2. Ann TOMISON, No Father Listed, 1858 > 3. Betsy THOMSON, NFL (poss. COOLE). 1870 > 4. NML, David, 1657 > 5. Jane THOMSON, Donald, 1828 > 6. Jean THOMSON, Donald, 1855 > 7. Jean TOMISON, Donald, 1833 > 8. NML, Donald, 1812 > 9. NML, Gilbert, 1750 > 10. Helen TAMESON, James, 1807 > 11. NML, James, 1757 and 1789 > 12. NML, Jon, 1663 and 1752-58 > 13. NML (poss. ? Rosie), Omand, 1755 > 14. Sarah THOMISON, NFL (poss. ANNAL), 1872 > 15. NML, Thomas, 1750 > 16. Barbara THOMSON, William, 1836 > 17. Esther THOMSON, William, 1852 > 18. Mary THOMSON, William, 1864 > 19. NML, William, 1750-1777 > 20. Barbara ALLAN, David, 1828 > 21. Catherine ANNAL, Gilbert, 1871 > 22. Margaret ANNAL, John, 1832 > 23. Ann ATKEN, James, 1804 > 24. Jane ATKIN, Gilbert, 1825 > 25. Margaret ATKIN, Magnus, 1810 > 26. Elizabeth BANKS, Edward, 1827 (one of the children married > Catherine BROWN in 1868) > 27. Euphemia BROWN, James, 1852 > 28. Margaret BROWN, William, 1832 > 29. Ann BRUCE, James, 1795 > 30. Helen BRUCE, Donald, 1856 > 31. Elspet BUDGE, Donald, 1798 > 32. Elizabeth BUDGE, James C., 1858 > 33. Euphan BUDGE, James, 1790 ( does anyone know for sure who their > daughter Elizabeth married?) > 34. Helen BUDGE, Magnus, 1829 > 35. Jane BUDGE, James, 1855 > 36. Barbra CLOUSTON, Hendrey, 1788 > 37. May CLOUSTON, John, 1846 > 38. Barbara COGAL, Gilbart, 1782 > 39. Margaret COGLE, Robert, 1825 > 40. Margaret COOKE, Robert, 1830 > 41. Catharine D. CROMARTY, George Dunnet, 1865 > 42. Jane N. CROMARTY, James N., 1861 > 43. Margaret CROMARTY, John, 1841 > 44. Jannet DEARNESS, Malcolm, 1825 > 45. Catherine DUNCAN, Robert, 1864 > 46. Janet DUNCAN, Edward, 1813 > 47. Margrat DUNCAN, Donald, 1793 > 48. Margrat DUNKAN, Gilbert, 1788 > 49. Catherine DUNNET, Thomas, 1830 > 50. Jessie DUNNET, James, 1854 > 51.Margrat FLEAT, Androu, 1786 > 52. Catherine GARRIOCH, Robert, 1851 > 53. Johan GOW, John, 1827 > 54. Anne GRAY, Donald, 1809 > 55. Barbara GRAY, Donald, 1858 > 56. Elizebth GRAY, Edward, 1793 > 57. Margaret GRAY, Gilbert, 1802 > 58. Charlotte GROAT, William, 1810 > 59. Elizabeth GROAT, Robert, 1802 > 60. Janet GROAT, Andrew, 1789 > 61. Margrat GROAT, Robt, 1798 > 62. Ann GUNN, James, 1866 > 63. Catharine GUTCHER, George D., 1864 > 64. Jane GUTCHER, William, 1843 > 65. Jane HORN, William, 1815 > 66. Isabella LEITH, David, 1859 > 67. Elizabeth LOUTTIT, Thomas, 1835 > 68. Elizabeth MANSON, John, 1825 > 69. Isabella MILLER, John, 1823 > 70. Margaret MUIR, Donald, 1842 > 71. Barbara NORQUOY, John, 1812 > 72. Christian NORQUOY, John, 1818 > 73. Jane NORQUAY, Alexander, 1874 > 74. Jane Sea B. NORQUAY, John B., 1867 > 75. Elizabeth OMOND, James, 1832 > 76. Ann PARK, Robert, 1847 > 77. Jane RICHAN, Magnus, 1798 > 78. Catharine ROSIE, Oman, 1851 > 79. Elizabeth ROSSIE, James, 1785 (Does anyone know for sure who their > daughter Elizabeth married?) > 80. Isabela ROSSIE, Gilbert, 1784 > 81. Margaret ROSIE, Oman, 1835 > 82. Margrat ROSIE, Donald, 1787 > 83. Jessie RUSLAND, John, 1842 > 84. Margaret SCOTT, James, 1849 > 85. Jean SCOTT, Robert, 1844 > 86. Catharine SYMISON, James, 1819 > 87. Kaithren SINCLAIR, Donald, 1796 > 88. Catherine SINCLAIR, John, 1831 > 89. Jane SKAY, Thomas, 1847 > 90. Isabella SMITH, James, 1840 > 91. Jean SUTHERLAND, Magnus, 1808 > 92. Barbara TAIT, John, 1819 > 93. Barbara TAIT, William, 1789 > 94. Barbara TAYLOR, Andrew, 1805 > 95. ELizebth TAYLOR, Magnus, 1775 > 96. Elizabeth TAYLOR, William, 1816 > 97. Mary WALLS, Donald, 1854 ( If you know this family, Please let me > know!) > 98. Hellan WINWEKE, Edward, 1793 > 99. Jannet WISHART, Alexander, 1848 > 100. Barbara WISHERD, Edward, 1787 > 101. Margaret WOOLRIDGE, John, 1859 > 102. Elizabeth WOOLDRAGE, William, 1816 > > Hoo boy, have I ever hit the Save button a lot of times as I did this! > I'm researching the family of Malcolm WALLS who married 1. Christian > BRUCE and 2. Elizabeth THOMSON and had 3 children with each. He > changed his name to Malcom WALLACE part way through the second family! > > I found something interesting the other day by looking at the census > on Walt's site. Malcolm's son, John Thomson WALLACE, and his wife > Helen SPENCE had 4 children listed in the WALLACE births text. On the > census, it became apparent that this couple had been in Canada, had at > least two children and then RETURNED to South Ronaldsay, something I > had never thought of. > My Christmas present this year was to find a new relative in Wales. > Our connection had reversed his second name and family name when he > moved to Canada, likely because he had been born illegitimate in > England. Made him harder for both of us to find the connection but we > did it! > I hope you can find some names of interest in here. Let me know if > you do. > Does one say Happy Hogmanay? > Pam > > -- > Pam Thomson > http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ > Town Square Network

Found your message fascinating reading - know what you mean about the save button! My particular interest is in the Groat surname, of which I see one or two in your list. These seem to ring bells with me (or perhaps it is the thought of Hogmanay!). Will try and have a look through soon and let you know. Just out of curiosity you know! Catriona -----Original Message----- From: Pam Thomson <pthomson@bc.sympatico.ca> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 27 December 1998 00:03 Subject: [ORKNEY-L] THOMSON Families of the Orkneys and all their Variations! >After about 30 minutes of typing, my connection to Netscape dropped >and lost my previous attempt to get this information out to you. Hit >the SAVE button - I know, I know! >BTW, does anyone know why my two families, the WALLS/WALLACE and >THOMSON families rarely married each other? Was there some kind of >feud between them? >I've been compiling a list of Thomsons with a connection to South >Ronaldsay in the Orkney Islands. >After 30 years of teaching, I thought I'd seen all the possible >variations of the name - my personal favourite is Thomspon- but those >creative spellers in the previous centuries have the modern ones beat! >The ones I've found are Tamson, Tameson, Tamison, Thomson, Thomison, >Thomesone, Thomsone, Thompson, Tomison, Tompson. I know that many of >these families have retained the variant spelling but I discovered >that one family may have several different spellings, depending on who >recorded the event. >I also know that first names were similarly treated - today's >favourite is Pnellypay!- as well as other last names like Tait/Teat >and Norquay/Norqwoy. I have tried to take the information available on >Walt Custer's wonderful website at > >> http://www.cursiter.com/ >> >and arrange the people into families of Thomson children. I have a >list of over 100 families (and I'd typed in about 37 when I lost my >last effort!) and if they fit with someone you're researching, please >contact me and I'll send you the children's names and birthdates so >you can compare them to what you have. >The first 19 are children whose parents are both Thomsons or where >there is only one parent listed. After that, I list them >alphabetically by the mother's last name. >The format is this: >Mother's full name, Father's given name(s), date of marriage or birth >of first child if marriage not known. >1. No Mother Listed (but may be Jean BERSTOUN for abt 1749), >Alexander, 1751-59 and also 1851 >2. Ann TOMISON, No Father Listed, 1858 >3. Betsy THOMSON, NFL (poss. COOLE). 1870 >4. NML, David, 1657 >5. Jane THOMSON, Donald, 1828 >6. Jean THOMSON, Donald, 1855 >7. Jean TOMISON, Donald, 1833 >8. NML, Donald, 1812 >9. NML, Gilbert, 1750 >10. Helen TAMESON, James, 1807 >11. NML, James, 1757 and 1789 >12. NML, Jon, 1663 and 1752-58 >13. NML (poss. ? Rosie), Omand, 1755 >14. Sarah THOMISON, NFL (poss. ANNAL), 1872 >15. NML, Thomas, 1750 >16. Barbara THOMSON, William, 1836 >17. Esther THOMSON, William, 1852 >18. Mary THOMSON, William, 1864 >19. NML, William, 1750-1777 >20. Barbara ALLAN, David, 1828 >21. Catherine ANNAL, Gilbert, 1871 >22. Margaret ANNAL, John, 1832 >23. Ann ATKEN, James, 1804 >24. Jane ATKIN, Gilbert, 1825 >25. Margaret ATKIN, Magnus, 1810 >26. Elizabeth BANKS, Edward, 1827 (one of the children married >Catherine BROWN in 1868) >27. Euphemia BROWN, James, 1852 >28. Margaret BROWN, William, 1832 >29. Ann BRUCE, James, 1795 >30. Helen BRUCE, Donald, 1856 >31. Elspet BUDGE, Donald, 1798 >32. Elizabeth BUDGE, James C., 1858 >33. Euphan BUDGE, James, 1790 ( does anyone know for sure who their >daughter Elizabeth married?) >34. Helen BUDGE, Magnus, 1829 >35. Jane BUDGE, James, 1855 >36. Barbra CLOUSTON, Hendrey, 1788 >37. May CLOUSTON, John, 1846 >38. Barbara COGAL, Gilbart, 1782 >39. Margaret COGLE, Robert, 1825 >40. Margaret COOKE, Robert, 1830 >41. Catharine D. CROMARTY, George Dunnet, 1865 >42. Jane N. CROMARTY, James N., 1861 >43. Margaret CROMARTY, John, 1841 >44. Jannet DEARNESS, Malcolm, 1825 >45. Catherine DUNCAN, Robert, 1864 >46. Janet DUNCAN, Edward, 1813 >47. Margrat DUNCAN, Donald, 1793 >48. Margrat DUNKAN, Gilbert, 1788 >49. Catherine DUNNET, Thomas, 1830 >50. Jessie DUNNET, James, 1854 >51.Margrat FLEAT, Androu, 1786 >52. Catherine GARRIOCH, Robert, 1851 >53. Johan GOW, John, 1827 >54. Anne GRAY, Donald, 1809 >55. Barbara GRAY, Donald, 1858 >56. Elizebth GRAY, Edward, 1793 >57. Margaret GRAY, Gilbert, 1802 >58. Charlotte GROAT, William, 1810 >59. Elizabeth GROAT, Robert, 1802 >60. Janet GROAT, Andrew, 1789 >61. Margrat GROAT, Robt, 1798 >62. Ann GUNN, James, 1866 >63. Catharine GUTCHER, George D., 1864 >64. Jane GUTCHER, William, 1843 >65. Jane HORN, William, 1815 >66. Isabella LEITH, David, 1859 >67. Elizabeth LOUTTIT, Thomas, 1835 >68. Elizabeth MANSON, John, 1825 >69. Isabella MILLER, John, 1823 >70. Margaret MUIR, Donald, 1842 >71. Barbara NORQUOY, John, 1812 >72. Christian NORQUOY, John, 1818 >73. Jane NORQUAY, Alexander, 1874 >74. Jane Sea B. NORQUAY, John B., 1867 >75. Elizabeth OMOND, James, 1832 >76. Ann PARK, Robert, 1847 >77. Jane RICHAN, Magnus, 1798 >78. Catharine ROSIE, Oman, 1851 >79. Elizabeth ROSSIE, James, 1785 (Does anyone know for sure who their >daughter Elizabeth married?) >80. Isabela ROSSIE, Gilbert, 1784 >81. Margaret ROSIE, Oman, 1835 >82. Margrat ROSIE, Donald, 1787 >83. Jessie RUSLAND, John, 1842 >84. Margaret SCOTT, James, 1849 >85. Jean SCOTT, Robert, 1844 >86. Catharine SYMISON, James, 1819 >87. Kaithren SINCLAIR, Donald, 1796 >88. Catherine SINCLAIR, John, 1831 >89. Jane SKAY, Thomas, 1847 >90. Isabella SMITH, James, 1840 >91. Jean SUTHERLAND, Magnus, 1808 >92. Barbara TAIT, John, 1819 >93. Barbara TAIT, William, 1789 >94. Barbara TAYLOR, Andrew, 1805 >95. ELizebth TAYLOR, Magnus, 1775 >96. Elizabeth TAYLOR, William, 1816 >97. Mary WALLS, Donald, 1854 ( If you know this family, Please let me >know!) >98. Hellan WINWEKE, Edward, 1793 >99. Jannet WISHART, Alexander, 1848 >100. Barbara WISHERD, Edward, 1787 >101. Margaret WOOLRIDGE, John, 1859 >102. Elizabeth WOOLDRAGE, William, 1816 > >Hoo boy, have I ever hit the Save button a lot of times as I did this! >I'm researching the family of Malcolm WALLS who married 1. Christian >BRUCE and 2. Elizabeth THOMSON and had 3 children with each. He >changed his name to Malcom WALLACE part way through the second family! > >I found something interesting the other day by looking at the census >on Walt's site. Malcolm's son, John Thomson WALLACE, and his wife >Helen SPENCE had 4 children listed in the WALLACE births text. On the >census, it became apparent that this couple had been in Canada, had at >least two children and then RETURNED to South Ronaldsay, something I >had never thought of. >My Christmas present this year was to find a new relative in Wales. >Our connection had reversed his second name and family name when he >moved to Canada, likely because he had been born illegitimate in >England. Made him harder for both of us to find the connection but we >did it! >I hope you can find some names of interest in here. Let me know if >you do. >Does one say Happy Hogmanay? >Pam > >-- >Pam Thomson >http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ >Town Square Network > > >

I am researching Sclaters/Slaters of Firth Parish, Mainland, and have discovered that a child b circa 1814 was named Simon Thomson Slater, but have not yet found a marriage between a Sclater/Slater and a Thomson. I am interested in sharing information with anyone researching Sclaters/Slaters. Jane Stephenson

After about 30 minutes of typing, my connection to Netscape dropped and lost my previous attempt to get this information out to you. Hit the SAVE button - I know, I know! BTW, does anyone know why my two families, the WALLS/WALLACE and THOMSON families rarely married each other? Was there some kind of feud between them? I've been compiling a list of Thomsons with a connection to South Ronaldsay in the Orkney Islands. After 30 years of teaching, I thought I'd seen all the possible variations of the name - my personal favourite is Thomspon- but those creative spellers in the previous centuries have the modern ones beat! The ones I've found are Tamson, Tameson, Tamison, Thomson, Thomison, Thomesone, Thomsone, Thompson, Tomison, Tompson. I know that many of these families have retained the variant spelling but I discovered that one family may have several different spellings, depending on who recorded the event. I also know that first names were similarly treated - today's favourite is Pnellypay!- as well as other last names like Tait/Teat and Norquay/Norqwoy. I have tried to take the information available on Walt Custer's wonderful website at > http://www.cursiter.com/ > and arrange the people into families of Thomson children. I have a list of over 100 families (and I'd typed in about 37 when I lost my last effort!) and if they fit with someone you're researching, please contact me and I'll send you the children's names and birthdates so you can compare them to what you have. The first 19 are children whose parents are both Thomsons or where there is only one parent listed. After that, I list them alphabetically by the mother's last name. The format is this: Mother's full name, Father's given name(s), date of marriage or birth of first child if marriage not known. 1. No Mother Listed (but may be Jean BERSTOUN for abt 1749), Alexander, 1751-59 and also 1851 2. Ann TOMISON, No Father Listed, 1858 3. Betsy THOMSON, NFL (poss. COOLE). 1870 4. NML, David, 1657 5. Jane THOMSON, Donald, 1828 6. Jean THOMSON, Donald, 1855 7. Jean TOMISON, Donald, 1833 8. NML, Donald, 1812 9. NML, Gilbert, 1750 10. Helen TAMESON, James, 1807 11. NML, James, 1757 and 1789 12. NML, Jon, 1663 and 1752-58 13. NML (poss. ? Rosie), Omand, 1755 14. Sarah THOMISON, NFL (poss. ANNAL), 1872 15. NML, Thomas, 1750 16. Barbara THOMSON, William, 1836 17. Esther THOMSON, William, 1852 18. Mary THOMSON, William, 1864 19. NML, William, 1750-1777 20. Barbara ALLAN, David, 1828 21. Catherine ANNAL, Gilbert, 1871 22. Margaret ANNAL, John, 1832 23. Ann ATKEN, James, 1804 24. Jane ATKIN, Gilbert, 1825 25. Margaret ATKIN, Magnus, 1810 26. Elizabeth BANKS, Edward, 1827 (one of the children married Catherine BROWN in 1868) 27. Euphemia BROWN, James, 1852 28. Margaret BROWN, William, 1832 29. Ann BRUCE, James, 1795 30. Helen BRUCE, Donald, 1856 31. Elspet BUDGE, Donald, 1798 32. Elizabeth BUDGE, James C., 1858 33. Euphan BUDGE, James, 1790 ( does anyone know for sure who their daughter Elizabeth married?) 34. Helen BUDGE, Magnus, 1829 35. Jane BUDGE, James, 1855 36. Barbra CLOUSTON, Hendrey, 1788 37. May CLOUSTON, John, 1846 38. Barbara COGAL, Gilbart, 1782 39. Margaret COGLE, Robert, 1825 40. Margaret COOKE, Robert, 1830 41. Catharine D. CROMARTY, George Dunnet, 1865 42. Jane N. CROMARTY, James N., 1861 43. Margaret CROMARTY, John, 1841 44. Jannet DEARNESS, Malcolm, 1825 45. Catherine DUNCAN, Robert, 1864 46. Janet DUNCAN, Edward, 1813 47. Margrat DUNCAN, Donald, 1793 48. Margrat DUNKAN, Gilbert, 1788 49. Catherine DUNNET, Thomas, 1830 50. Jessie DUNNET, James, 1854 51.Margrat FLEAT, Androu, 1786 52. Catherine GARRIOCH, Robert, 1851 53. Johan GOW, John, 1827 54. Anne GRAY, Donald, 1809 55. Barbara GRAY, Donald, 1858 56. Elizebth GRAY, Edward, 1793 57. Margaret GRAY, Gilbert, 1802 58. Charlotte GROAT, William, 1810 59. Elizabeth GROAT, Robert, 1802 60. Janet GROAT, Andrew, 1789 61. Margrat GROAT, Robt, 1798 62. Ann GUNN, James, 1866 63. Catharine GUTCHER, George D., 1864 64. Jane GUTCHER, William, 1843 65. Jane HORN, William, 1815 66. Isabella LEITH, David, 1859 67. Elizabeth LOUTTIT, Thomas, 1835 68. Elizabeth MANSON, John, 1825 69. Isabella MILLER, John, 1823 70. Margaret MUIR, Donald, 1842 71. Barbara NORQUOY, John, 1812 72. Christian NORQUOY, John, 1818 73. Jane NORQUAY, Alexander, 1874 74. Jane Sea B. NORQUAY, John B., 1867 75. Elizabeth OMOND, James, 1832 76. Ann PARK, Robert, 1847 77. Jane RICHAN, Magnus, 1798 78. Catharine ROSIE, Oman, 1851 79. Elizabeth ROSSIE, James, 1785 (Does anyone know for sure who their daughter Elizabeth married?) 80. Isabela ROSSIE, Gilbert, 1784 81. Margaret ROSIE, Oman, 1835 82. Margrat ROSIE, Donald, 1787 83. Jessie RUSLAND, John, 1842 84. Margaret SCOTT, James, 1849 85. Jean SCOTT, Robert, 1844 86. Catharine SYMISON, James, 1819 87. Kaithren SINCLAIR, Donald, 1796 88. Catherine SINCLAIR, John, 1831 89. Jane SKAY, Thomas, 1847 90. Isabella SMITH, James, 1840 91. Jean SUTHERLAND, Magnus, 1808 92. Barbara TAIT, John, 1819 93. Barbara TAIT, William, 1789 94. Barbara TAYLOR, Andrew, 1805 95. ELizebth TAYLOR, Magnus, 1775 96. Elizabeth TAYLOR, William, 1816 97. Mary WALLS, Donald, 1854 ( If you know this family, Please let me know!) 98. Hellan WINWEKE, Edward, 1793 99. Jannet WISHART, Alexander, 1848 100. Barbara WISHERD, Edward, 1787 101. Margaret WOOLRIDGE, John, 1859 102. Elizabeth WOOLDRAGE, William, 1816 Hoo boy, have I ever hit the Save button a lot of times as I did this! I'm researching the family of Malcolm WALLS who married 1. Christian BRUCE and 2. Elizabeth THOMSON and had 3 children with each. He changed his name to Malcom WALLACE part way through the second family! I found something interesting the other day by looking at the census on Walt's site. Malcolm's son, John Thomson WALLACE, and his wife Helen SPENCE had 4 children listed in the WALLACE births text. On the census, it became apparent that this couple had been in Canada, had at least two children and then RETURNED to South Ronaldsay, something I had never thought of. My Christmas present this year was to find a new relative in Wales. Our connection had reversed his second name and family name when he moved to Canada, likely because he had been born illegitimate in England. Made him harder for both of us to find the connection but we did it! I hope you can find some names of interest in here. Let me know if you do. Does one say Happy Hogmanay? Pam -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

Merry Christmas from a Shearer who gets to come to Orkney in March. We are so excited. The Shearers of Holm Parish, Wilderness Farm. All the boys emigrated to USA and to Shetland in the 1880s. In the family is the story that we were a part of the Gordon clan in Scotland at one time. I would like to take the line back further but have not actually begun. My first job is to ask my 91 yoer old father about his Orkney grandparents. HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AND A PEACEFUL 1999. Mary from Oregon, USA ---------- > From: Tracey Janney <tracey@janneymt.freeserve.co.uk> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] MERRY CHRISTMAS > Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 11:42 AM > > Seasons greetings to all researchers out there. > > Regards Tracey > > Surname Interests: > KIRKPATRICK, SHEARER, LOUTTIT, MCKAY, PEEBLES, CROMARTY, ANDERSON, DUNNET, > SINCLAIR

Wishing you all the very best for Christmas. <http://www.ukans.edu/~kansite/hvn/articles/thelight.htm> Dick T

Thanks Tracey! All the best this season to everyone on this list, and all dear to you. May we all uncover new twigs on the branches of our family trees! Lisa Surname interests: Johnston(e), Cumming(s) Tracey Janney wrote: > Seasons greetings to all researchers out there. > > Regards Tracey > > Surname Interests: > KIRKPATRICK, SHEARER, LOUTTIT, MCKAY, PEEBLES, CROMARTY, ANDERSON, DUNNET, > SINCLAIR

Seasons greetings to all researchers out there. Regards Tracey Surname Interests: KIRKPATRICK, SHEARER, LOUTTIT, MCKAY, PEEBLES, CROMARTY, ANDERSON, DUNNET, SINCLAIR

In a message dated 12/21/98 12:19:07 PM CST, anne@rendall.net writes: > Subj: [ORKNEY-L] Orkney Gen Web & Online Family Trees > > Hi Folks, > > As the volunteer host for the Orkney Gen Web project I'm writing to ask > your assistance On Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:14:31 -0500, you wrote: >1) Gather a list of all Orkney surname sites (such as my Rendall.net) and >all personal homepages that have online family trees that include Orcadian >ancestors. If you have such a site, or know of one, I would appreciate it >if you would send me: > > a) the URL: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/u/r/PHILLIP-R-PURSLEY/index.html > b) the title of the site: User Home Page Outline Descendant Tree: Descendants of WILLIAMSONS, IRVINES, LESLIES & PURSLEYS of SCT > c) a brief description of the site that I may include at the Orkney Gen >Web page. I have listed 10 generations from my 4-x-greatgrandparents John WILLIAMSON born abt 1751 in Shirva, Shetland and Isabella IRVINE born abt 1750 in Fair Isle, Shetland to their granddaughter Margaret WILLIAMSON (my great- grandmother) born 1840 in Whitehall, Stronsay to many of their descendants born in the Orkneys to those born in Canada and the US. A few of the names that may be of interest are WILLIAMSON, IRVINE, LESLIE, FIDDLER, STOUT, EUNSON, HARCUS, MACKENZIE, RENDALL, etc. I also can do lookups for the Whitehall, Stronsay Census of 1841, 1851 and 1861. Anne, Thank you for doing this. It is much appreciated. Phil Pursley

On Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:14:31 -0500, you wrote: >1) Gather a list of all Orkney surname sites (such as my Rendall.net) and >all personal homepages that have online family trees that include Orcadian >ancestors. If you have such a site, or know of one, I would appreciate it >if you would send me: > > a) the URL http://fox.nstn.ca:80/~eddingto > b) the title of the site "Eddington & Louden Genealogy Page" > c) a brief description of the site that I may include at the Orkney Gen >Web page. Genealogy of Eddington & Louden Families + My kin from Westray, Orkney Islands -- Harcus & Drever Families. There is also a collection of photographs taken between 1908 - 1918 of men who served in "The Queens Own Cameron Highlanders" >You may email me at anne@rendall.net > By the way anne, I have in my line an Ann Rendall B circa 1816 Married to David Drever & lived in Peyhouse" Broughtown, Westray. Could there be a connection ??? Dave Eddington Kingston, Nova Scotia E-mail: eddingto@fox.nstn.ca Web: http://fox.nstn.ca:80/~eddingto

I would like to thank everyone who replied to me re my request for help finding information about the McPHEE travelling families. I will reply to each individually as and when I can. I'm just overwhelmed with gratitude and we know so much more now than we did before about 'The Summer Walkers' and their way of life. It is with great regret that I will have to unsubscribe from the lists now because of the volume of mail but many of the other mails regarding other subjects have been very interesting and I may resubscribe again to a couple after the holidays. Thanks again to all, have a Merry Christmas and most of all a very Happy Hogmanay. Caryl Williams http://members.tripod.com/~Caryl_Williams/index.html Ancestor Quest UK and Ireland Genealogy

Hi Folks, As the volunteer host for the Orkney Gen Web project I'm writing to ask your assistance. I would like to do two things: 1) Gather a list of all Orkney surname sites (such as my Rendall.net) and all personal homepages that have online family trees that include Orcadian ancestors. If you have such a site, or know of one, I would appreciate it if you would send me: a) the URL b) the title of the site c) a brief description of the site that I may include at the Orkney Gen Web page. You may email me at anne@rendall.net 2) I have long thought that it would be to everyone's advantage if it we could collect Orcadian GEDCOM files in a central place on line. (GEDCOM is a standard format that most, if not all, family tree software programs can export to - this facilitates file sharing). At my website I have installed a perl program that resides on the UNIX server that hosts my site that takes a GEDCOM file and creates a family tree. It can remove information for living people from the tree, it creates a searchable database, decendency and pedigree charts, and allows all or part of the file to be extracted for download. You can see it at http://rendall.net/trees/ I would be happy offer my site as a repository for Orcadian GEDCOM files, or to form with others an ad hoc online Orkney Family History organization and rent web space else where. Rootsweb would be an alternative if they offer private cgi-bins, or GEDCOM hosting but I don't believe they do at the present time. I appreciate your assistance and feedback. and. . . HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Regards, Anne Rendall Rendall dot Net http://rendall.net Volunteer Listowner Orkney-L Volunteer host OrkneyGen Web -> http://rendall.net/orkney

Dear Heather, I saw your query this morning and thought I ought to answer since there seems to be little traffic so close to the holidays. The M.S. before Wylie in the document just means "Maiden Surname," so her full name is Betsy McKay Wylie. When looking for her birth in the indexes, whether the printed (film or fiche) ones or the on-line SRO listings, try other forms of Betsy: Betty, Elisabeth, Beth, Betts, etc. If her birth was registered, you should be able to find it. Good luck and best wishes for the holiday season. Doug Nicol Visit my personal Homepage at http://mail.ancestry.com/ancestry/users/ndnicol Get Your Free E-mail at Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com) Ancestry.com -- For all your Family Correspondence!