Try www.cursiter.com Ron Blbushue@aol.com wrote: > I have been trying for sometime to access this site: > > http://www.curister.com > > I cannot get through. I've tried going through Netscape, but still nothing. > Can someone please help me out. Am anxious to check this website out, but > getting quite frustrated. > Thanks, > Bobbi > blbushue@aol.com > TN, USA

Thanks for all replies, Walt's site is hugely helpful. -----Original Message----- From: janine <janine@muskoka.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 14 January 1999 06:35 Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] CUSITER & ISBISTER >Roger >Have you tired www.curister.com??? > >---------- >> From: Roger Kelly <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ORKNEY-L] CUSITER & ISBISTER >> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:27 PM >> >> I am trying to find out more about the lives, ancestors and descendants >of >> my ggggrandparents George CUSITER (1793-1872) and Jane ISBISTER >(c1795-1857) >> of Nether Hobbiston, Stennes, Firth. Both are buried in Finston Old >> Churchyard. Quite close by is the grave of the Firth schoolteacher (was >the >> name SPENCE?) who I believe encouraged my gggrandfather George Firth >CUSITER >> (1830-1874) to leave Orkney to become a teacher and inventor. >> >> Any help appreciated, Roger Kelly >> > >

I have been trying for sometime to access this site: http://www.curister.com I cannot get through. I've tried going through Netscape, but still nothing. Can someone please help me out. Am anxious to check this website out, but getting quite frustrated. Thanks, Bobbi blbushue@aol.com TN, USA

Hi Pam Thanks for the info. I have researched Walt's site and did also have that bit of info. But now to find out if he's my Gilbert. I have matched up with my Isabella's great grandson and we are now trying to put our info together on this family. I figured that with Gilbert and Oman being such unusual names it was a good place to start. Again thank you. Diane Davison ---------- > From: Pam Thomson <pthomson@bc.sympatico.ca> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Thomson and Cusiter > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 8:49 PM > > Diane Davidson: > This is the only Gilbert in my files who could have been born in 1837. > > 21. CATHERINE ANNAL/GILBERT THOMSON M. 21 DEC 1871 > ELIZABETH ROSIE CROMARTY 25 SEP 1872 > > Roger Kelly: > Have you checked Walt Custer's site at > > > http://www.cursiter.com/ > > > You will find tons of information on your family there as will anyone > with Orkney roots. > -- > Pam Thomson > http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ > Town Square Network > >

Roger Have you tired www.curister.com??? ---------- > From: Roger Kelly <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] CUSITER & ISBISTER > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:27 PM > > I am trying to find out more about the lives, ancestors and descendants of > my ggggrandparents George CUSITER (1793-1872) and Jane ISBISTER (c1795-1857) > of Nether Hobbiston, Stennes, Firth. Both are buried in Finston Old > Churchyard. Quite close by is the grave of the Firth schoolteacher (was the > name SPENCE?) who I believe encouraged my gggrandfather George Firth CUSITER > (1830-1874) to leave Orkney to become a teacher and inventor. > > Any help appreciated, Roger Kelly >

Diane Davidson: This is the only Gilbert in my files who could have been born in 1837. 21. CATHERINE ANNAL/GILBERT THOMSON M. 21 DEC 1871 ELIZABETH ROSIE CROMARTY 25 SEP 1872 Roger Kelly: Have you checked Walt Custer's site at > http://www.cursiter.com/ > You will find tons of information on your family there as will anyone with Orkney roots. -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

I am trying to find out more about the lives, ancestors and descendants of my ggggrandparents George CUSITER (1793-1872) and Jane ISBISTER (c1795-1857) of Nether Hobbiston, Stennes, Firth. Both are buried in Finston Old Churchyard. Quite close by is the grave of the Firth schoolteacher (was the name SPENCE?) who I believe encouraged my gggrandfather George Firth CUSITER (1830-1874) to leave Orkney to become a teacher and inventor. Any help appreciated, Roger Kelly

I am searching for information on or about Oman THOMSON who was christened on 22 July 1846 in South Ronaldsay, Orkney Islands. Oman was the son of John THOMSON and Margaret ANNAL. Oman was one of 8 children. His siblings were Robert, Isabella, James, Gilbert, Margaret, John and William who was my great grandfather. Margaret Annal Thomson died in 1850 at the age of 50, John Thomson died in 1861 around the age of 61. The family is listed on the 1851 Census for South Ronaldsay and Burray. At the time Oman was 4 years old. Any assistance in finding information on Oman or his family line would be greatly appreciated. I have information to share as well. Thank you. Diane Thompson-Davison

I am searching for information on or about Gilbert THOMSON who was christened on 18 September 1837 in South Ronaldsay, Orkney Islands. Gilbert was the son of John THOMSON and Margaret ANNAL. Gilbert was one of 8 children. His siblings were Robert, Isabella, James, Oman, Margaret, John and William who was my great grandfather. Margaret Annal Thomson died in 1850 at the age of 50, John Thomson died in 1861 around the age of 61. The family is listed on the 1851 Census for South Ronaldsay and Burray. At the time Gilbert was 14 years old. Any assistance in finding information on Gilbert or his family line would be greatly appreciated. I have information to share as well. Thank you. Diane Thompson-Davison

Hi group: I don't seem to be getting any info is there something wrong? PAT PRICE FLATT.......priceace@ionsys.com

I can help with number 3 as I asked the same question. An assize is like a jury, so being on an Assize would be like being on jury duty. Mike Bostwick JaneKate@aol.com wrote: > I am reading old documents and histories and come across words I don't > understand. I'm hoping someone from Orkney can (please) help me out! > 1)What is an odal property? > 2)Are odallers the same as farmers? > 3)In legal documents of the 1600's, what does "is on an Assize" mean? > 4) in a document from 1669 "John and his wife, give state, saving liferent of > his mother to Thomas....." (Maybe "life rent" is two words....??) > 5) What exactly was the Uthell Book? I have 3 pages copied from the book, and > it appears to be lists of current landholders....but what does "land Uthell" > mean exactly after every entry? For example "two penney land Uthell" > Thanks for your help....Jane in New Hampshire, USA

> James Bain MUIR (M)................... B: 15 Nov 1854 Ba: C110234 > Father: James MUIR Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506 > Mother: Wilhelmina MCKAY Pr: 6901949 > I found this while looking on Walt Custer's site (www.cursiter.com) for S. Ronaldsay McKays. I think there is some relationship between McKay and Bain. I'll copy the listings I took from Scots Origins for Barbara McKays born between 1825 and 1835 and Donald McKays from 1805-1815 ( note one father is listed as McKay or Bain) > BARBARA(middle name given if listed) McKAY births or Christenings, > > mother's full name, father's first name, parish > > 1825, (Barbara Eliza), Barbara FRASER, Robert, Kilmalie > 1828, Barbara CLYNE, Edward, Thurso > 1829,(Barbara Gordon), Janet GORDON, William, Thurso > 1828, Catherine McKAY, David, Barony > 1827, Isabella McKENZIE, William Edinburgh > 1829, Elizabeth WOOLRIDGE, Donald, S. Ronaldsay South Parish (my > ancestor) > 1835, (Barbara Mason), Elizabeth Bowman, Alexander, Aberdeen > 1831, Barbara McKAY, Hugh, Reay > 1830, Betty McDONALD, James, Latheron > 1832, Marion SUTHD., Joseph, Reay > 1833, Mary McLEOD, Angus, Reay > 1833, Mary GUTHRIE, Alexander, Glasgow > 1831, Barbara McLEOD, Angus, Glasgow > 1835, Marion PATERSON, Angus, Glasgow > 1832, Barbara SUTHERLAND, George, Walls and Flotta > >> 3. DONALD McKAY >> 1808, Ann McMILLAN, Edward, Killean & Kilchenzie >> 1808, NML, Fergus, Southend >> 1808, Elizabeth MCKAY, Adam, Halkirk >> 1806, Catharine GUNN, James, Halkirk >> 1809, Barbara MUNRO, John, Halkirk >> 1808, Ann MacKAY, John, Reay >> 1807, Mary CAMPBELL, John, Urquhart & Logie Weste >> 1806, NML, Dunc.,Stornoway >> 1806, NML, Hugh McKay or BAIN, Durness >> 1809, Isabel PETRIE, Donald, Wemyss >> 1807, Isabel FRASER, William, Cromdale & Inverallan >> 1805, Anna McKENZIE, Alexander, Carnwath >> 1806, Jean KELLIE, John, Edinburgh >> 1808, Isobel SMITH, Roger, Port Glasgow >> 1815, Anne McEACHERN, John, Kilmeny >> 1815, Jannet McDONALD, William, Kilmore and Kilbride >> 1811, Betty McDIARMID, Donald, Bowmore or Killarrow >> 1812, NML, Alexr., Tain >> 1815, Janet CAMPBELL, John, Halkirk >> 1815, Isobel CAMERON, Angus, Killearn >> > -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

Hi group, I'm new to your list my name is PAT PRICE FLATT and I live in Dunnville, Ontario,Canada -I am looking for the FLATTS that came to Canada, from Kirkwall, Orkney Isles -I have lots of info from over here and nothing from there ============================================================ here is what I know: JOHN FLETT or FLATT was a blacksmith and m.Margaret Shearer -they had a son ROBERT FLATT and another son possibly WILLIAM who worked for the Hudson Bay Co. here in Canada ============================================================ ROBERT FLATT (1799-1848) b.19 NOV.1799 in Kirkwall, Orkney Isles m SAT.16 OCT.1819 .MARY BAKER (1800-1888) -they bought 200 acres of Crown land 24 SEPT.1832 -they had 13 children for which I have info -I have a copy of his will,pictures etc. ============================================================ -interesting info WILLIAM DE LOS FLATT (1862-1936) wrote two books: THE TRAIL OF LOVE -I have a copy of same THE MAKING OF A MAN ========================================================== would be great to make a connection and share same Best regards to all,PAT PRICE FLATT.............priceace@ionsys.com

Maybe we should just rename this the McKay list! Thanks Stephen, now we know that several McKays from Farr moved to South Ronaldsay/Burray. We have Donald, b. abt1806, Hugh b. abt 1809, John b. abt 1811, Euphemia, b. abt 1814, Ann, b. abt 1812 and Margaret b. abt 1807. The chances of them being brothers and sisters are very good so next we need to see if one set of parents in Farr had children with those names. First one to find out should let us all know! I also wanted to direct people to a very good site from Nova Scotia which is about clans, septs and tartans and is very informative. It also has links to Electric Scotland which hosts chat sessions for different names. I highly recommend this site - sponsored by Clan MacKay! > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/FSCNS/Scots_NS/About_Clans/Scot_Clan.html > -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

Hi Lou and Charndra I have a Isabella McKay b. abt 1804, she married Thomas Kirkpatrick in 1827 in Orphir. Maybe she is another sibling of William? Regards Tracey Surname Interests: KIRKPATRICK, SHEARER, LOUTTIT, MCKAY, PEEBLES, CROMARTY, ANDERSON, DUNNET, SINCLAIR

> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 01:15:26 -0800 > From: Pam Thomson <pthomson@bc.sympatico.ca> > Organization: N. W. S. S. / Town Square Network > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] McKay from Farr > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-to: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > In > 1821, Eliza WOOLRIDGE was 12 years old and she and 3 other young > people were living with an older couple, John and Eliza DUNCAN, both > 62. One of the others was Hugh MCKAY, 13. The other two were Jas. > TAYLOR, 26 and Ann JOHNSTONE, 25. I'm curious to know why they would > have all lived with the Duncans and if Hugh McKay and Donald McKay are > connected. Hi! A check of the 1851 census for Hugh McKays found one age 42, fisherman, unmarried, born Farr, Sut., a boarder with John and Betsy McKay and family. (John age 40, born Farr) [nearby was a Euphemia McKay, lodger, unmarried, age 37, born Farr; Ann, wife of Thomas Anderson, age 39, born Farr; Margaret, wife of John Guthrie, age 44, born Farr......] A James Taylor, age 57, was born in South Ronaldsay; An Ann Johnston, age 58, unmarried was born in Burray. (Of course, I have no way of knowing if any of these are the correct people or not.) So there exists the possibility that Hugh and Donald were related, and perhaps John too. Happy Hunting! Stephen

To continue the McKay/Mackay discussion. I have an ancestor, Donald McKAY b. 1806 who is listed on the 1851 census as being from Farr, Sutherland too. He married Elizabeth WOOLRIDGE (WOLDRAGE) of South Ronaldsay. They had two daughters, Betsy, b. 1832 in Burray (usually included with S. Ronaldsay in listings) who was a schoolmistress in 1851 and Barbara b. 1829 in Burray who was my 2G grandmother and married Robert Thomson WALLACE, son of Malcolm WALLS. Donald McKAY must have come from Farr between 1821 and 1828. I was given some interesting information from fellow lister Stephen Wood. In 1821, Eliza WOOLRIDGE was 12 years old and she and 3 other young people were living with an older couple, John and Eliza DUNCAN, both 62. One of the others was Hugh MCKAY, 13. The other two were Jas. TAYLOR, 26 and Ann JOHNSTONE, 25. I'm curious to know why they would have all lived with the Duncans and if Hugh McKay and Donald McKay are connected. The 1851 census has more helpful information so we know that the McKays had two farm labourers, Barbara PETRIE, and John WOOLRAGE, living with them and that Donald was a "farmer of 26 acres". I believe I read that the area around Farr in Sutherland is the seat of the McKay clan. In some notes my aunt has, there is also mention of an Alexander McKay and Betsy CAMPBELL but I haven't figured out how that fits in or why so many McKays moved to the Orkneys from the mainland. After a few months of research, I've discovered that most people stayed put in those days, usually marrying and dying on the island where they were born. Pam -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

Hi Lou. This may or may not be related to the Sinclair line you mentioned, although I have a Hannah SINCLAIR (my 5xgreat grandmother)who married William BALFOUR in the 1760's, however I have the MACKAY name in my tree as well. I have been having difficulties with that side of the family. My 4xGgrandfather Angus MACKAY married Euphan BALFOUR(b1770), who had child Elizabeth MACKAY c1806. As this would put her around the same age as your William, I was wondering if you know anything of his siblings / other family? I only know of Elizabeth at this stage. How have you traced the MacKay section of the tree? As these families seem to be very interlinked, there may well be a link that turns up. If this is not immediately apparent, please keep it in mind in future. Elizabeth MACKAY married James WORK in 1828 in Kirkwall. Which larger Island is Orphir near? (it is not on my simple map) Cheerio from Australia, Charndra Josling cjosling@senet.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Lou Kabel <lkabel@voyageur.ca> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 9 January 1999 6:39 Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Sinclair/MacKay >I'm looking for any info on the family of Fanny Sinclair, b Dec 4 1802 >Orphir, Orkney. Married William MacKay Feb 7 1828 in Orphir. They had the >following children: Janet 1828, George 1829, James 1832, Jean 1834, >Isabella 1835, William 1837, Margret 1840, John 1842, Betsey 1844, and >Fanny 1846. There must be some family still in the Orkney's. >Lou Kabel >

Hello Charndra and Lou, I have another MacKay/McKay line you may be interested in that originated in Farr, Sutherland Co., Scotland with Angus McKay and Ann McLeod, whose family ended up in Orkney. I see no relation to either of your families on the surface (unless my Angus also married Euphan Balfour) but you may like to see the information at: http://www.tiac.net/users/teschek/harrold/d0/i0000057.htm#i57 Bill Teschek teschek@tiac.net > This may or may not be related to the Sinclair line you mentioned, although > I have a Hannah SINCLAIR (my 5xgreat grandmother)who married William BALFOUR > in the 1760's, however I have the MACKAY name in my tree as well. I have > been having difficulties with that side of the family. > My 4xGgrandfather Angus MACKAY married Euphan BALFOUR(b1770), who had child > Elizabeth MACKAY c1806. As this would put her around the same age as your > William, I was wondering if you know anything of his siblings / other > family? I only know of Elizabeth at this stage. > How have you traced the MacKay section of the tree? As these families seem > to be very interlinked, there may well be a link that turns up. If this is > not immediately apparent, please keep it in mind in future. Elizabeth MACKAY > married James WORK in 1828 in Kirkwall. > Which larger Island is Orphir near? (it is not on my simple map) > > Cheerio from Australia, > Charndra Josling > cjosling@senet.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Kabel <lkabel@voyageur.ca> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, 9 January 1999 6:39 > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Sinclair/MacKay > > > >I'm looking for any info on the family of Fanny Sinclair, b Dec 4 1802 > >Orphir, Orkney. Married William MacKay Feb 7 1828 in Orphir. They had the > >following children: Janet 1828, George 1829, James 1832, Jean 1834, > >Isabella 1835, William 1837, Margret 1840, John 1842, Betsey 1844, and > >Fanny 1846. There must be some family still in the Orkney's. > >Lou Kabel > > > > >

I'm looking for any info on the family of Fanny Sinclair, b Dec 4 1802 Orphir, Orkney. Married William MacKay Feb 7 1828 in Orphir. They had the following children: Janet 1828, George 1829, James 1832, Jean 1834, Isabella 1835, William 1837, Margret 1840, John 1842, Betsey 1844, and Fanny 1846. There must be some family still in the Orkney's. Lou Kabel