Since many of us are looking for something to flesh out the bare genealogical bones of our Orkney heritage, I should like to recommend the books by George Mackay Brown. These are set on the Orkneys, and reading them one gets a feel for the history and character of the islands. He has written several books of short stories and his novel, 'Beside the Ocean of Time' was shortlisted for the Booker Prize. Definitely worth a look for a better insight into the Orkneys. Karen on Vancouver Island, BC Canada

Have been lurking for some time now but have not seen any information regarding the surname GARRIOCH. Would it be possible for someone to check the book on Orkney surnames and let me know what it says. Thanks, Karen on Vancouver Island, BC Canada

Hi Anne: Thank you very much for looking for it. It's been a funny name to trace, and there is not a lot of reference to it in relation to Scottish History. Anyway, thanks again for looking. Sincerely, Grant Simpson

At 05:25 AM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >If someone who has this book on Orkney Surnames would be willing to look up >the surname, Horne, I would be most interested to find out if there is any >long term history associated with this name. I can't seem to find out how >long my Horne family was associated with the Orkneys, although I know my >Great Grandfather called it Home. Any help would be most appreciated. > I guess I'm "someone" I don't see the name listed. Anne Rendall

I am hoping to find out information about my Horne Family's life on the Orkneys. Family Oral history says that they owned a Goose Farm just outside of Kirkwall. Can anyone point me in a direction in which I would be able to find out more about this. Any research I do is basically limited to the Internet and the FHC as I live in Whitehorse, Yukon and libraries and archives are limited to a large degree. Thanks for any help on this. Grant Simpson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Grant Simpson 15 Tabor Crescent Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 5R2 Phone (867) 668-3401 - Voice Mail Fax (867) 668-4234 Email: gsimpson@yknet.yk.ca Web Sites: http://users.yknet.yk.ca/jazz http://users.yknet.yk.ca/ragtime http://vaudeville.yk.net/

If someone who has this book on Orkney Surnames would be willing to look up the surname, Horne, I would be most interested to find out if there is any long term history associated with this name. I can't seem to find out how long my Horne family was associated with the Orkneys, although I know my Great Grandfather called it Home. Any help would be most appreciated.

At 02:15 AM 2/14/99 GMT, you wrote: >Could someone who has the book on Orkney surnames please tell me what >it says for Pottinger and for Cormack. Thanks > Hi Susan, Cormack is listed as an old gaelic first name dating back in Orkney to 1600's that it is not common in Orkney today. Pottenger is a common Orkney surname that dates back to 1522 and is derived from pottager "which came to mean 'a herbalist': most probably an introduced surname. An interesting piece of folklore surrounds the Pottinger surname in Orkney. It is said that the first Pottingers (to come to Orkney?) came to the east mainland parish of Deerness to work in a quarry. While they were working a raven swooped down and made off with one of their caps. Angered by this the men gave chase and it was a good job they did! Not long after leaving the quarry face to retrieve the stolen cap there was a rockslide that would have surely killed them." Gregor Lamb's Orkney Surnames copyright Gregor Lamb 1981 Regards, Anne Rendall volunteer listower Orkney-L host Orkney GenWeb http://rendall.net/orkney/

Is there such a book on Orkney surnames ? If so, I am seeking STOKEN. Thanks for any direction. Randy

Could someone who has the book on Orkney surnames please tell me what it says for Pottinger and for Cormack. Thanks

My Orkney Isle family were descended from ALEXANDER and ELIZABETH (nee CAMPBELL) who were resident on Shapinsay Island between 1848 and 1861. I have found this out by reading the 1851 and 1861 census. They moved after that time to Mainland Island about 1861 and were recorded in the 1871 census. I have not been able to find anything about them after that date. They nine children. DAVID BALFOUR, b.26 June 1848, Shapinsay. MARGARET,b.28 April 1849, Shapinsay. [This was my Great grand Mother]. MARCUS CALDER,b.13 November 1850, Shapinsay. ISABELLA MOWAT,b. 5 November 1852, Cairston, Stromness. EBENEZAR ALEXANDER, b.14 September 1854, Cairston, Stromness. NATHANEIL MURDOCH,b. 5 December 1856, Cairston, Stromness. MARY ANNE CATHERINE, b. 20 October 1858. Cairston, Stromness. ALEXANDERINA DINAH, b. 1861, Cairston, Stromness. ELIZABETH, b. 27 February 1864, Stromness. Anyone who give me help on tracing the members of the family would be much appreciated. Barry Buckley

Jeff, John Inkster married William Sinclairs daughter, Mary. My grandmother, Annie Setter, was descended from John and Mary's daughter, Margaret. Thanks for the reply. Let me know if you want more details. Bill Hawley

Judith Epps: some thoughts: Part of this could be a misplaced reference to a county: ie Count Ross lc = Count[y of] Ross & [Cromarty]. Nolli could be shorthand for 'no one admits responsibility'. But an exotic Count Ross lc NOLLI might step from the shadows of this list. Where in Orkney did Cath come from? Westray? [Noltland?] Incidentally, the Ross baronets of Balnagowan, Ross-shire lived also in LanarKShire, and were connected by marriage to the Lockhart-Wisharts of Carnwath LKS, Counts of the Holy Roman Empire. Bothwell is at the other, northern end of that county. Good wishes = Roger Kelly = Penicuik = Scotland -----Original Message----- From: J Epps <epps@camtech.net.au> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 11 February 1999 00:54 Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Count Ross Ic Nolli, OKI, Sct >I have an entry for an ancestor that I am unsure of and am >hoping that someone can help clarify it for me please. >I have a Robert EGLINGTON b. 1823 Bothwell, LKS, Sct who >married Cath ROSS b. 1829 OKI, Sct. Cath's parent is listed as Count Ross Ic NOLLI. The Nolli appears to be in capitals. Can anyone please clarify this name? >Would his Christian name be Count? or would he be a 'Count'? If this is the case, .what did it involve? Does anyone have any information on the EGLINGTON or ROSS >family from OKI in their lines? Would much appreciate the clarification of Cath's parent if possible. > >many thanks, >Judith Epps

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I have an entry for an ancestor that I am unsure of and am hoping that someone can help clarify it for me please. I have a Robert EGLINGTON b. 1823 Bothwell, LKS, Sct who married Cath ROSS b. 1829 OKI, Sct. Cath's parent is listed as Count Ross Ic NOLLI. The Nolli appears to be in capitals. Can anyone please clarify this name? Would his Christian name be Count? or would he be a 'Count'? If this is the case, what did it involve? Does anyone have any information on the EGLINGTON or ROSS family from OKI in their lines? Would be happy to exchange information. Would much appreciate the clarification of Cath's parent if possible. many thanks, Judith Epps

Hi Bill, My name is Jeff Inkster and I've just recently started getting into the Geneology of own family. If memory serves me correct, I'm both a decent of the John Inkster and William Sinclair that are on this list. I believe there was a John Inkster that married one of William's daughters but I'm not entirely sure if it's this John or not. I don't know exactly how far down the tree I am from John and William but I do know some people who verified the fact that indeed I am a relation. As you can see from the Cc I made to Neil Ray & Joanne Gilmore, they've helped me answer quite a few questions maybe they can help you out too. Hope to here from you soon, "Cousin"? Jeff Inkster Toronto, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Hawley Brothers <bhaw@pld.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:00 AM Subject: [ORKNEY-L] HBC Orkney employees >I am descended from the following Orkneymen who migrated to Canada with >HBC: > >Andrew Setter b. 1777 Westray, Orkney >James Morwick b. 1776 Kirkwall, Orkney >James Spence b. abt 1753 Birsey, Orkney >John Inkster b. 1799 Orkney >William Sinclair b. 1776 Harra, Orkney >James Calder b.S. Ronaldshay Burray, Orkney > >I would like to communicate and compare notes with other descendents. > >Bill Hawley > >

I am descended from the following Orkneymen who migrated to Canada with HBC: Andrew Setter b. 1777 Westray, Orkney James Morwick b. 1776 Kirkwall, Orkney James Spence b. abt 1753 Birsey, Orkney John Inkster b. 1799 Orkney William Sinclair b. 1776 Harra, Orkney James Calder b.S. Ronaldshay Burray, Orkney I would like to communicate and compare notes with other descendents. Bill Hawley

If your Jeremiah Rendall was still alive and in Ontario in 1901 or perhaps his son, the 1901 census will give the exact year of immigration. Joanna Waugh Hamilton, Ontario Canada > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] 1861 Census look up anyone? + Ontario help? > Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:22:59 -0500 > From: Anne Rendall <anne@rendall.net> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > > A while back I asked for help locating some ancestors whom I believed had > emmigrated to Canada. Someone on the list was really helpful in identifying > that person in the Ontario 1871 census and I really appreciate it - > especially because I missed the spelling variation she used. > > Today I finally got around to confirming that this was indeed our ancestor > so I'm very happy. There's just one or two mysteries left. > > I know now that the family didn't leave Orkney until after the 1861 census > but I don't know where they were. I'm looking for Jeremiah Rendall who is > sometimes listed as Jerome, and Rendall is sometimes spelled Rendal, > Randell, Randel, Randal etc. An 1859 baptismal record shows that the family > was at Lower Ellibister in Rendall Parish, but they have been looked for > there already to no avail. In 1861 Jeremiah would have been 32 give or > take, his wife Mary Stevenson Rendall was about two and a half years > younger so she'd be listed as 29 or 30 - probably. They had one boy named > Peter who would have been around two. Mary's father had a farm in Firth. > Her brothers had farms in different parishes but I lost files on my > computer and don't remember where they were. > > So if you have an 1861 Orkney census I'd really be greatful if you could > look for Jeremiah, Mary and Peter Rendall. Another possibility is that > Jermiah had to leave Mary temporarily, so Mary may have been alone with > Peter somewhere. Her brothers were Stevensons, she had a sister who became > a Hewison I believe - Ann Trail Hewison (?) and a sister named Stewart who > married twice once to Sinclair Harcus - probably Westray, her second > husband was John Seatter. > > Thanks if you can help - thanks for reading my rambling inquiry regardless :) > > Regards, > > Anne M. Rendall > volunteer host Orkney GenWeb > and Orkney-L > http://rendall.net/orkney/ >

Hi I am new to the list looking for any Sinclairs that imigrated to Michigan in the late 1800s. I had a gggrandfather named John living in Perry, Michigan in the 1900 census. John was Married to a Sarah J. Bertam. Thank You in advance Theda

Hello I wanted to thank everyone who helped in my search for John SINCLAIR and Jannet SYMISON, from S. Ronaldsay, Orkney. This new info has really helped in my search and I continue to search for more info. Mattie Bird http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/9506

Thanks for the quote, Anne. I thought the Walls name meant the same, Norse or Scots, so that helped explain it. I'm not sure my super-religious great grandfather would have appreciated the reference to the Wallace being a "corrupted" form of Walls! <vbg> > Hope this is useful to you. > > > Regards, > > Anne M. Rendall > -- Pam Thomson British Columbia, Canada Proud to be a Rootsweb Sponsor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TownSquareNetwork