I don't have any Fletts/Flatts in my tree, but from what I've seen in the records there are a couple of variations for the name Flett: Flatt and Fleet among them. Interestingly Flett is the earliest recorded Orkney Surname. It is an Old Norse word for "witch" , according to Gregor Lamb's "Orkney Surnames" the name is associated with the parish of Harray, especially the tunship of Netherbrough and is the forth most common Orcadian surname after Sinclair, Rendall and Johnston. According to Lamb, "this surname has been carried abroad and is frequently found in New Zealand, Canada and USA where it is found in the form Flatt." (A tunship is a unit of farmable land) Regards, Anne M. Rendall volunteer host Orkney GenWeb and Orkney-L http://rendall.net/orkney/

---------- > From: Pat <priceace@ionsys.com> > To: liseb1@home.com > Subject: re:FLETTS/FLATTS...........from Pat > Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 10:33 AM > > Hi Lise:--------you are very welcome > > John Flett--was a blacksmith > m.Margaret Shearer > children: (1)Robert..........see below > (2)William,worked with the Hudson Bay Co. > > Robert Flatt (1799-1848) > b.19 NOV.1799 at Kirkwall, Orkney Isles > d.SUNDAY 6 AUG.1848 in Ontario,Canada........ > SAT.16 OCT.1819 m.MARY BAKER (1800-1888) > d.THURSDAY 17 MAY 1888 > da. of ABRAHAM (1775-1838) and ESTER YAKE > (1775-1838) > -I have a copy of this will > -came to Ontario, Wednesday, 6 OCT.1819 > -I have a picture of him and Mary > -24 SEPT.1832, bought 200 acres of Crown land > -they had 13 children............do you want them?................... > -a descendant of his, William de los Flatt (1862-1936) wrote the book, > THE TRAIL OF LOVE, which can be copied for you if you would like***in the > book he mentions coming from the ORKNEYS........... > > If you want more info please let me know, > glad to make a new friend, > Best Regards,Pat Price Flatt..............priceace@ionsys.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Pat! Thanks for writing back! I would love to have that information..I never knew that they changed their names from Flett to Flatt..but are they considered to be the same? There are quite a few Flett families in Canada. If you could send me the info via e-mail, I can be reached at liseb1@home.com. Thank- you so much!!!!!! Lise

> > Hi Lise: > I don't know if this will help or not but the Flatts came from Kirkwall, > Orkney Isles and worked for the Hudson Bay Co. in Canada, > they changed their name from FLETT to FLATT and have info re: > that. Let me know if you want my info and will gladly send to you. > Today is a GIFT called the PRESENT! > Best Regards,PAT PRICE FLATT.........priceace@ionsys.com > > > >(message snipped) > > > > I know that a lot of Fletts emigrated to Canada to work with the Hudson

Hi Lise: I don't know if this will help or not but the Flatts came from Kirkwall, Orkney Isles and worked for the Hudson Bay Co. in Canada, they changed their name from FLETT to FLATT and have info re: that. Let me know if you want my info and will gladly send to you. Today is a GIFT called the PRESENT! Best Regards,PAT PRICE FLATT.........priceace@ionsys.com ---------- > From: Lise Boissonneault <liseb1@home.com> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Flett researchers? > Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 2:28 AM > > Hi! > > I'm new to this list and like many of you I am compiling my family tree. > > I seemed to have gotten stuck for the past 4 years and was wondering if > someone could please assist me. > > I am looking for the parents of Mary Flett who married James Sangster. > Unfortunately, I do not have any information as to when Mary was born or > when she got married or even when she died. > > Mary and James had a daughter Ethel, born May 4, 1874 North West > Territories in Canada who married Napoleon Levesque August 30, 1892 in > St. Boniface, Manitoba, Canada. Ethel died in 1927 at the age of 52. > > I know that a lot of Fletts emigrated to Canada to work with the Hudson > By Company but so dar every lead I have researched has been wrong. > > Can anyone help? > > Any assistant would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you all for your time, > > > Lise Boissonneault

Hi! I'm new to this list and like many of you I am compiling my family tree. I seemed to have gotten stuck for the past 4 years and was wondering if someone could please assist me. I am looking for the parents of Mary Flett who married James Sangster. Unfortunately, I do not have any information as to when Mary was born or when she got married or even when she died. Mary and James had a daughter Ethel, born May 4, 1874 North West Territories in Canada who married Napoleon Levesque August 30, 1892 in St. Boniface, Manitoba, Canada. Ethel died in 1927 at the age of 52. I know that a lot of Fletts emigrated to Canada to work with the Hudson By Company but so dar every lead I have researched has been wrong. Can anyone help? Any assistant would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you all for your time, Lise Boissonneault

My GGGrandfather David Isbister was baptised at Harray in August 1792. His Father was William Isbester and Mother Jean Sinclair. David married Piggy. (Yes her birth was recorded as Piggy) Isbister on 28 July 1822 in Firth and Stenness. Her Father was David Isbester and Mother Christain Allan. Piggy was born on 20 November 1798 in Firth and Stenness.Their nine children were also born there. I hope someone else is tracing the same family. Les Kennedy lkennedy@powerup.com.au

Does anyone have a connection to these people?: Ann FAIRWEATHER married William DEARNESS in abt 1822 7 children from 1823-1836- William, Margaret, Mary Strang, David, Mary, Thomas, Alexander. Barbara FAIRWEATHER married James GARRIOCH in about 1822 1 daughter Barbara b.1823 Catherine FAIRWEATHER married Donald MANSON in 1840 in Wick, Caithness 1 daughter Catherine b. 1843 Christina FAIRWEATHER married Peter RYRIE in 1835 in Wick, Caithness Donald FAIRWEATHER married Margaret MANSON in 1797 in Bower, Caithness Elspeth FAIRWEATHER married William Groat in about 1751 4 children born between 1752 and 1760 - James, Esther, Ingram, John Margaret FAIRWEATHER married William MANSON in 1760, Watten, Caithness 5 children from 1761-1779- Christian, Isabel, unnamed daughter and 2 Katharines Margaret FAIRWEATHER marriedWilliam GROAT in abt 1752 1 son William b. 1753 Mary FAIRWEATHER married Laurence IRVINE in 1841, Kirkwall and St Ola 6 children 1841-1854- John, Margaret, Alexander, James, Mary, William Pam (Fairweather!) -- Pam Thomson British Columbia, Canada Proud to be a Rootsweb Sponsor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TownSquareNetwork

Thanks, Blake. Your information has given me a start towards finding some more links. As Mary Kennedy Walls was born in St. Margaret's Hope, I'm sure there's a connection. I've just briefly scrolled through the South Ronaldsay Allan births on www.cursiter.com and can see a couple of connections to the Rossie/Rosie name which is one of the two possibilities for Elizabeth Thomson (M.K.'s mother) 's mother. -- Pam Thomson British Columbia, Canada Proud to be a Rootsweb Sponsor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TownSquareNetwork

I do have a Mary Kennedy. She was my great great grandmother, born i believe in or about 1782 at St Margaret's Hope, South Ronaldsay and died there 28 May 1858. She married James Allan there 6 Apr 1805. There are many descendants named after her: Mary Kennedy Banks (1836-1921), Mary Kennedy Allan (1838-1905, the grandmother of Allan Lamport former mayor of Toronto), Mary Kennedy Allan (1862-1937)of Kirkwall who married James Sinclair, Mary Kennedy Louttit (b. 1813-?), and others I believe. I came across another Mary Kennedy Sinclair some years ago in the Toronto Globe but then not aware, made no note of it. So there may be some connection to the one's you mention, or maybe their parents just admired Mary Kennedy. She must have been quite a gal! Blake Allan, Victoria BC

Hi Listers, particularly new ones, is anyone researching ancestors with the names HEDDLE or HEPBURN from Shapinsay, Orkney? Charndra Josling cjosling@senet.com.au

Re: ORKNEY-D digest V99 #38 (No. 6) Weds, 24 Feb 1999 Please excuse a typo I just found when copying my previous posting to another file. "...Amry Ann NEIL." should read "...Mary Ann Neil." My apologies to all. Linda Spence in BC, Canada Any personal replies should be sent to the e-mail address shown below: spencejc@intergate.bc.ca

Can somebody tell me if Kirkwall and St Ola is the name of two different places? R J Lee

Hi Tom Thank you for responding to my post. It is very interesting to learn that these houses are still occupied. My great great grandfather Gilbert Thomson, his son John Thomson and then grandson Robert Thomson were all owner's of Greystone. Supposedly they did pay rent on the land according to one of the letters. Newhall was owned by Robert's brother James Thomson. These were the brother's of my great grandfather William Thomson. Do you by any chance know the present occupants of these homes? Thanks again for your information. Diane Davison ---------- > From: Thomas Matches <tommy@longabar.freeserve.co.uk> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] RE: Newhall Parish > Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 1:58 PM > > Hi Diane > Greystone and Newhall are both still occupied houses in the South parish of > South Ronaldsay Orkney. > > Tom Matches > Orkney > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane Davison <dldavison@kwic.com> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 27 February 1999 00:58 > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] RE: Newhall Parish > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >I recently received 8 dated between 1882-1903. These letters were sent to > >me from a cousin and they were passed down to her after her mothers death. > >Her great grandmother corresponded with relatives in South Ronaldshay, > >Orkney Islands. One letter is from her uncle Robert Thomson who lived a > >Greystone, another from her uncle James who lived at NEWHALL South Parish > >and another from a cousin Jeannie Duncan Thomson who was the daughter of > >Robert Thomson. > > > >These letters are a gold mine of information. My question would be, does > >anyone on the list know where NEWHALL SOUTH PARISH is located? I have > >previously been given the location of GREYSTONE, which according to the > >letters is a stone house with only six rooms. Are these places still > >standing today? > > > >Thanks for any assistance you can give me on this. > > > >Diane Davison > >Ontario > > > > >

OOPS! Don't you hate discovering errors right after you've sent something off? * Mary Kennedy WALLS was the first of Malcolm's children with Elizabeth Thomson, not one of the three he had with Christie Bruce. So she was John Thomson WALLACE's older sister, not half-sister. I also have a relative, named Mary Kennedy WALLS , b. 1830 in South Ronaldsay, * d/o Christie BRUCE and Malcolm WALLS. Her father remarried after Christie's death. He changed his name to WALLACE with the birth of her second child, John Thomson WALLACE. -- Pam Thomson British Columbia, Canada Proud to be a Rootsweb Sponsor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TownSquareNetwork

> I have a Mary Cromarty, dau of James Gray Cromarty (1811-1871) and Mary > Kennedy Banks (1836-1921), South Ronaldsay. Mary Cromarty was the > fourth child of this couple but I have no dates for her. But they could > fit. Any connection? Blake Allan, Victoria BC > I also have a relative, named Mary Kennedy WALLS , b. 1830 in South Ronaldsay, d/o Christie BRUCE and Malcolm WALLS. Her father remarried after Christie's death. He changed his name to WALLACE with the birth of her second child, John Thomson WALLACE. This is the man who married Helen SPENCE, as I mentioned in my recent reply about the SPENCE name. > I have a SPENCE connection. Helen married into the Wallace family and > I have tentatively assembled a tree for her. ( I believe that her > mother Helen Thomson and John Wallace's mother Elizabeth Thomson may > be related.) What I find very interesting is that she and her husband > went to Canada where their first two children were born but by the > next census were back in South Ronaldsay. This is what I have: > John SPENCE > b. abt 1810, OKI, Scotland > d. bef 1910 > & Helen THOMSON > b. abt 1810, OKI, Scotland > d. bef 1910 > m. 8 Mar 1832, South Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | Helen SPENCE > | b. 6 Jan 1836, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | d. bef 1934 > | & John Thomson WALLACE > | b. 1834, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | d. 10 Mar 1910 > | m. 2 Apr 1857 > | | Mary Ellen WALLACE > | | b. 1859, Canada > | | d. bef 1959 > | | Elizabeth WALLACE > | | b. 1862, Canada > | | d. bef 1962 > | | Jemima WALLACE > | | b. 10 Aug 1865, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | | d. bef 1881 > | | Robina WALLACE > | | b. 10 Aug 1865, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | | d. bef 1881 > | | John WALLACE > | | b. 1 Feb 1868, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | | d. bef 1968 > | | John WALLACE > | | b. 1870, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | | d. bef 1970 > | | Malcom WALLACE > | | b. 28 Nov 1870, S. Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | | d. bef 1881 > | James SPENCE > | b. 15 Apr 1841, Scotland > | d. bef 1941 > | & Mary Stewart CROMARTY > | b. 8 Aug 1843, South Ronaldsay, OKI, Scotland > | d. bef 1943 > | | Thomas Thomson SPENCE > | | b. 15 Apr 1865, Scotland > | | d. bef 1965 > | | William Cromarty SPENCE > | | b. 9 Apr 1863, Scotland > | | d. bef 1963 > | John SPENCE > | b. 13 Jan 1833, Scotland > | d. bef 1933 > What I would like to know is why there were two babies who were given the names MARY KENNEDY at about the same time? Does anyone have a Mary KENNEDY in their family as I have found none and wonder who the girls , Mary Kennedy WALLS b. 1830 and Mary Kennedy BANKS, b. 1836 might have been named for? As an aside, I believe that Mary Kennedy WALLS may have married a Donald THOMSON and had a son, Donald THOMSON b/c on 2 APR 1854. It seems that the SPENCE, THOMSON, and WALLS/WALLACE names intertwine on South Ronaldsay in this time period. -- Pam Thomson British Columbia, Canada Proud to be a Rootsweb Sponsor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TownSquareNetwork

Hi Diane Greystone and Newhall are both still occupied houses in the South parish of South Ronaldsay Orkney. Tom Matches Orkney -----Original Message----- From: Diane Davison <dldavison@kwic.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 27 February 1999 00:58 Subject: [ORKNEY-L] RE: Newhall Parish >Hi Everyone > >I recently received 8 dated between 1882-1903. These letters were sent to >me from a cousin and they were passed down to her after her mothers death. >Her great grandmother corresponded with relatives in South Ronaldshay, >Orkney Islands. One letter is from her uncle Robert Thomson who lived a >Greystone, another from her uncle James who lived at NEWHALL South Parish >and another from a cousin Jeannie Duncan Thomson who was the daughter of >Robert Thomson. > >These letters are a gold mine of information. My question would be, does >anyone on the list know where NEWHALL SOUTH PARISH is located? I have >previously been given the location of GREYSTONE, which according to the >letters is a stone house with only six rooms. Are these places still >standing today? > >Thanks for any assistance you can give me on this. > >Diane Davison >Ontario > >

Those letters you mention sound very interesting. I know a lady who lives in Orkney who is probably related but does not have a computer. If you will give me your postal address, I'll send you her name and address, or write me: R B Allan, 4617 Amblewood Dr, Victoria BC V8Y 1B8 Blake

I have a Mary Cromarty, dau of James Gray Cromarty (1811-1871) and Mary Kennedy Banks (1836-1921), South Ronaldsay. Mary Cromarty was the fourth child of this couple but I have no dates for her. But they could fit. Any connection? Blake Allan, Victoria BC

Diane Would any of those letters mention any Petrie's from South Ronaldsay? I would be interested if they do. Janine Ontario also ---------- > From: Diane Davison <dldavison@kwic.com> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] RE: Newhall Parish > Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:26 PM > > Hi Everyone > > I recently received 8 dated between 1882-1903. These letters were sent to > me from a cousin and they were passed down to her after her mothers death. > Her great grandmother corresponded with relatives in South Ronaldshay, > Orkney Islands. One letter is from her uncle Robert Thomson who lived a > Greystone, another from her uncle James who lived at NEWHALL South Parish > and another from a cousin Jeannie Duncan Thomson who was the daughter of > Robert Thomson. > > These letters are a gold mine of information. My question would be, does > anyone on the list know where NEWHALL SOUTH PARISH is located? I have > previously been given the location of GREYSTONE, which according to the > letters is a stone house with only six rooms. Are these places still > standing today? > > Thanks for any assistance you can give me on this. > > Diane Davison > Ontario >