For those that are interested in finding out information on a ship etc the Ships List is at http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/ships.htm all the best Jenny

There is a list of mariners, world wide, at http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/mariners.htm all the best Jenny

Probably means lawful or legitimate. Blake MLDurgan@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I received a photocopy of "extracted record from the Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > Parish Register, film #1042940." This is the birth record for my > ggrandfather. I have a question about early recorded births. Was it > customary to have witnesses? The handwriting is difficult to read, but I will > interpret as best I can: > > McKersie. James McKersie, (weaver or teacher-unable to read), & Margaret > Alexander a (Lau or Law? cannot read): Son James bo: 15th Jany (January > 1838), ? (this word illegible, but could be wit) : William Alexander, & James > Alexander. > > Could someone who is familiar with parish records please help? What does a > Lau or Law mean? There are 9 other births on this page, and they all have > that notation after the mother's name. > > Thank you. > Marcia, USA

Marcia, In answer to your question about the OPR entries. It is normal for the registers to list witnesses to a baptism. In most of the records I have there are two witnesses. About the term "Law" you mentioned, I would guess this is abbreviated from "lawful" and normally an OPR entry for a birth and baptism would say something like: "<chlid's name> lawful son (or daughter) of <father and mother's names> was born <date> and baptised <date> by <minister's name> witnesses <names>" Sometimes Godparents are mentioned. I hope the above explanation makes sense and is of use to you. John Kelday

I am only interested in the names, Jane Leathe, Nicol Leathe, her father, and Mary Cromarty, her mother. Jane was born in Orkney, christened, and married there. I do not know the name of her spouse. I would like to find it. I believe her 2nd spouse may have been my GreatGr Grandfather. I have no information on Harvey. Does the Orkney list say that I do? Curious? Ethel Oliver -----Original Message----- From: Kolthammers <jkolth@mastnet.net> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 12:39 PM Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Re: HERVY >Good morning, > >On my Orkney tree I have Elizabeth HARVEY, daughter of James HARVEY and >Sally HAY who married in Stromness in 1810. > >I have extracted many HARVEY entries from the Stromness parish records, if >there is someone in particular that interests you. The name is spelled >many ways. I have chosen "Harvey" because that is the way my ggfather >spelled his name -- James Harvey INKSTER (born in Ontario, 1872). He was >the ggson of the James HARVEY noted above and the name appears in each >generation. > >Jennifer >jkolth@mastnet.net > >

Good morning, On my Orkney tree I have Elizabeth HARVEY, daughter of James HARVEY and Sally HAY who married in Stromness in 1810. I have extracted many HARVEY entries from the Stromness parish records, if there is someone in particular that interests you. The name is spelled many ways. I have chosen "Harvey" because that is the way my ggfather spelled his name -- James Harvey INKSTER (born in Ontario, 1872). He was the ggson of the James HARVEY noted above and the name appears in each generation. Jennifer jkolth@mastnet.net

Joh Kelday asked about the name Hervy, I've come across this variant in my own Harvey tree and think it's probably one of the variants on Harvey. Try searching on Rootsweb for the Harvey Genealogist site run by Anne Harvey Lahtinen, well worth a visit. All the best, Ken Harvey - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ken Harvey <almagi|l @ geocities.com> ICQ# 32695290 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hello, I received a photocopy of "extracted record from the Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Parish Register, film #1042940." This is the birth record for my ggrandfather. I have a question about early recorded births. Was it customary to have witnesses? The handwriting is difficult to read, but I will interpret as best I can: McKersie. James McKersie, (weaver or teacher-unable to read), & Margaret Alexander a (Lau or Law? cannot read): Son James bo: 15th Jany (January 1838), ? (this word illegible, but could be wit) : William Alexander, & James Alexander. Could someone who is familiar with parish records please help? What does a Lau or Law mean? There are 9 other births on this page, and they all have that notation after the mother's name. Thank you. Marcia, USA

Sorry! I'll keep your email and let you know, if I do come across it, . E. Oliver -----Original Message----- From: JOHN KELDAY <JKELDAY@compuserve.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 6:33 PM Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Hervy >Hello All, > In my research I have come across the name Hervy. Records >relating to the same individual give various spellings... >Hervy, Hervey, Harvey and even Hewey. Does anyone know of this name and >what the usual spelling is? > >John Kelday > >

Hello All, In my research I have come across the name Hervy. Records relating to the same individual give various spellings... Hervy, Hervey, Harvey and even Hewey. Does anyone know of this name and what the usual spelling is? John Kelday

Hi! I don't know what you've searched, but if you think your Mary Flett may have been in Manitoba prior to the North West Territories, you might wish to check out the 1870 census for all instances of Marys. I have an index to the census here and Fletts are listed on census pages 95, 97, (102), 167, 171, (171), (175), 177, 182, 187, 199, (200), 202, 211, 213, 216, 218, (300), 304, (344), 345, (345), (355), 359, and 367. Fleets are listed on pages 110, (113), 115, 123, (123), 132, 151, 154. (No Sangsters listed in the index.) The numbers in brackets indicate maiden names of wives, as the father's name for each person is also listed on the census return. Apparently the entire 1870 Manitoba census is on microfilm reel C-2170, and people in Canada should be able to obtain the reel on inter-library loan from the National Archives of Canada in Ottawa through a local participating library. If there is any chance that they may have been in Ontario, there is an index to the 1871 census on-line. There are 4 James Sangster's mentioned in the index, one age 25 in Brockville; one age 59 in Glengarry County, one age 57 in Huron County, and one aged 30 in Lambton County. (Addition information is available on the site) This index is heads of families and strays only - the microfilm reels would have to be consulted to see the complete information. Happy Hunting! Stephen

Hi! Found some Gullion information that may be of interest to you. >From "A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada before Confederation - Vol. 2" by Donald Whyte, F.H.G., F.S.G. [published by the Ontario Genealogical Society in 1995. ISBN 0-7779-0919-9 (v.2)] Gullion, George, from Orkney, brother of James Ingram Gullion and John William Gullion. To Hudson Bay after 1850. Employed at Ft. Garry by the HBCo. as a builder of York boats. Gullion, James Ingram, 1839 - 1902. From Eday, Orkney. Entered HBCo. service as a labourer, 1856, and served mainly at Edmonton. Middleman, 1859; sawyer 1861; and boat-builder 1863 - 1874. Married Flora, daughter of Colin Fraser. Gullion, John William "Billy", from Orkney, to Canada after 1860. The above information came from Donald Whyte's correspondence files. A letter to Donald might result in the address of the person who sent in the information. 1995 address: Donald Whyte, 4 Carmel Road, Kirkliston, West Lothian, Scotland, EH29 9DD. If this looks reasonable, I would check the 1841 and 1851 etc. census of Eday to see if you can pick up the family. Also try the IGI and OPR etc. The book also mentions Charles Fraser Gullion 30 Jul. 1827 - 12 Apr. 1911 from Eday, Orkney, son of William G. and Isabella Drever. He went to BC and also worked for the HBCo. No connection to any of the others mentioned in the book. Happy Hunting! Stephen

Sorry! That doesn't strike any bells here. Wish I could help you, I know know nil about the Isle of Lewis. Ethel Oliver -----Original Message----- From: polly <p.mccullough@shaw.wave.ca> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 6:28 PM Subject: [ORKNEY-L] GULLION, George....HBC Hi. Since we've been talking about HBC men, I thought I'd throw this name out. George GULLION came from Orkney to work with the HBC. I don't have any dates for him, but he married a Marquerite Julia (Peggy) BRAZEAU b. 1848 so I would assume he was born between 1828 and 1848? Also....does anyone know of a list that covers the Isle of Lewis? Thanks bunches! *S* polly in Calgary p.mccullough@shaw.wave.ca

Hi. Since we've been talking about HBC men, I thought I'd throw this name out. George GULLION came from Orkney to work with the HBC. I don't have any dates for him, but he married a Marquerite Julia (Peggy) BRAZEAU b. 1848 so I would assume he was born between 1828 and 1848? Also....does anyone know of a list that covers the Isle of Lewis? Thanks bunches! *S* polly in Calgary p.mccullough@shaw.wave.ca

Hi! Thanks for that information..I am beginning to understand a little more why they came. Lise

Dear Lise: this is taken from, THE TRAIL OF LOVE by W.D.FLATT Grandfather Flatt came over with one of his brothers (?William) with the Hudson Bay Company, when a youth, from his home in the Orkney Islands. At that time the Hudson Bay Company only brought over picked men, who were employed at one of their North-West forts near Winnipeg. Grandfather was a trusted employee, and on one occasion was sent with a prisoner from the North- West forts to what was then Little York, now Toronto. We always understood he had walked over one thousand miles with this prisoner and landed him safely. After some time he resigned from the employ of the Company. After this separation he never again heard from his brother.................................... I sugest that you contact the Hudson Bay Company, as I used the name Flatt and not Flett. Best regards,Pat Price Flatt...........priceace@ionsys.com

Dear Lise:--please see between your lines****** > > Hi Pat! > > Thanks for the information! I am beginning to think that I may be > related to William Flett. **when I contacted the Hudson Bay Co. they had listed 3 William Flatts there in the same time period AND that is all the info I have at the present time and will send you an excerpt from the book in a minute********************** **************************************************************************** ******************** Now the tricky question; while in the Hudson's > Bay Company did he marry like the french say " a la facon du pays"? > (Marry a native or metis or any of his children?)**I don't know yet!****** > > Is one of the children called Mary and married James Sangster? If so, my > long awaited search is over! > > > Talk to you later! > > Lise

Robert Blake Allan wrote: > > Hello,Lise. I have seen quite a number of spellings of the surname > Flett, even in the Orkneys. Blake While we're on the track of Flatt/Flett researching, I am looking for information on a James Flatt (who could have been a Flett) who migrated to Staten Island, New York between 1690-1695...I have pretty good records on his descendants; they moved to New Jersy, then to PA, then to KY/TN but am looking for a likely candidate for his family pre-immigration. Sue morgana@ghg.net

Hi Pat! Thanks for the information! I am beginning to think that I may be related to William Flett. Now the tricky question; while in the Hudson's Bay Company did he marry like the french say " a la facon du pays"? (Marry a native or metis or any of his children?) Is one of the children called Mary and married James Sangster? If so, my long awaited search is over! Talk to you later! Lise

Hello,Lise. I have seen quite a number of spellings of the surname Flett, even in the Orkneys. Blake