G'day List I've just started to take part in the list again so I'm checking to see if I have any relatives that have joined in the last few months or so. My g-g-grandparents came to Australia from the Orkney's in 1849 with their nine children. They were :- John SCOTT b. abt 1803 in Eday & Pharay & Mary SHERAR b. abt 1806 in Shapinshay They married in Eday & Pharay on 7 Nov 1827 and my g-grandfather John Scott was born on Eday in 1842 so I presume that's where they lived untill they immigrated. Anybody with any connections? I'm also interested in learning what I can about what life was like on those Islands back then. Regards peter

BH>My ggg-grandfather was Andrew Setter from Westray, joined HBC in 1800 BH>and lived out his life in Canada. BH>Scottish birth records CD shows an Andrew of the right age born to BH>Thomas Setter and Margaret Rendall of Westray. Other sibs were Janet, BH>Margaret, and James. My Andrew's Metis children included these names. I BH>am trying to find if Thomas and Margaret could be my gggg-grandparents. BH>Do you(or any other readers) have any records that might confirm this BH>connection? I realize Setter (Seator) (Seattor) is a very common name on BH>Westray as is Rendall. Andrew Setter (born 1777 died Feb 1 1870). From Westray or Rousay,OKI. Entered HB Co. service as a labourer 1798. Served at Green Lake 1805; Island Lake 1809-10; and in the Sask district 1811-19 as a canoeman. At Assiniboine and Qu'Appelle Rivers 1820-22. Returned to Red River settlement. Married Margaret Bates or Spence. Children: James - baptised 1821 George - baptised 1821 Margaret or Peggy - baptised 1821 Isabelle, baptised 1821 Elizabeth or Betsy - baptised 1822 Catherine - baptised 1827 Mary - baptised 1834 John - baptised 1836 Above from 1. Saskatchewan Genealogical Society Bulletin 3/3, 29. 2. Hudson's Bay Biographies - typed biographies of employees of the Hudson's Bay Company, prepared at the Hudson's Bay Company Archives, Vaughan Street, Winnipeg, Manitoba RC3 1T5 - arranged alphabetically. (I think this Postal Code is wrong - it may be R3C) Could the following be your Andrew's brother? Setter, George: 1782-1862. From OKI. Entered Hudson's Bay Co. Service as a labourer 1805. By his "great address, indefatigable labours and exertions, and determined hostility to the North West Company," rose to the charge of posts. Served for a time in the Red River district. See Hudson Bay Miscellany 1670-1870 edited by Glyndwr Williams. Winnipeg: Hudson's Bay Records Society, 1975. Looking at the IGI, there was an Andrew born to Thomas Setter and Margaret Rendell Mar 20 1780 in Westray. This could very well be his parents....the 3 years difference in age between the IGI and the above immigration record is pretty common. /patricia --- þ SLMR 2.1a #7 þ Patricia Patterson, Victoria, British Columbia, CANADA

Anne, My ggg-grandfather was Andrew Setter from Westray, joined HBC in 1800 and lived out his life in Canada. Scottish birth records CD shows an Andrew of the right age born to Thomas Setter and Margaret Rendall of Westray. Other sibs were Janet, Margaret, and James. My Andrew's Metis children included these names. I am trying to find if Thomas and Margaret could be my gggg-grandparents. Do you(or any other readers) have any records that might confirm this connection? I realize Setter (Seator) (Seattor) is a very common name on Westray as is Rendall. I bought the book Burghers of Westray while in Westray but can find no positive connection. Bill Hawley

Lise: I think its quite likely that Catharine CURSITER and Adam FLETT went to Canada. They certainly seem to have gone away somewhere. Perhaps Catharine joined Adam who was already there, or he came back for her. But all this is pure guesswork. I've been trying to put together a list of descendants of George CUSITER and Jane/Jean ISBISTER who farmed Nether Hobbister by Maes Howe, but I've nothing for their daughter Catharine and her FLETT husband. Jeff: Maybe theres a link between ISBISTER and INKSTER, but I reckon the names are quite distinct with separate origins and meanings. Roger Kelly by the bubbling St Mungo's Well in Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland. The Orkney St Clairs built Rosslyn Chapel not far away from here. -----Original Messages----- First From: Lise Boissonneault <liseb1@home.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 11 March 1999 02:02 Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] Isbester or Isbister Orkney >> Catharine CURSITER (b 1839, m Adam FLETT) >Hi! Did Catharine Cursiter and Adam Flett ever move to Canada and have >children? I am currently researching the Flett line. I'm looking for the >parents of Mary Flett who married James Sangster. >Thank-you for your time, Lise Boissonneault Second From: Jeff&Cheryl <cheryl.jeff@sympatico.ca> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 11 March 1999 17:25 Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] Isbester or Isbister Orkney >Just curious, any connection between Isbester and Inkster? I know there were >a few spelling changes throughout the years....Jeff Inkster, Toronto, ON, CAN

Teresa, I just received a rather large printed genealogy from a Stevenson cousin that lists many Westray folk I will be on the look out for these names. Predominate surnames in the genealogy are Rendall, Stevenson, Seater (and variations), but most Westray names figure in some where. The print out I received also includes information taken from the book Burghers of Westray. Anne At 03:09 PM 3/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >I am looking for any information on the family of William and Margaret >Rendall Pottinger. > >Margaret was the daughter of William and Margaret Draver ? Rendall. The >lived in Tirlot. > >William Pottinger b. 1813 >Margaret Rendall Pottinger b. 1816 >They were married 20 Dec 1837 in Westray >Children: >Mary b. 1839 >George b. 1841 >Jean or Jane b. 1843 >Isabel b. 1846 >William b. 1849 >Thomas b. 1854 >John b. 1856 > >It is possible that William is my Great-great grandfather who married Jane >Miller of Sandsend, Westray. Both he and Thomas came to the United States >between 1871-1874. Any information on these people would be greatly >appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Teresa Pottinger Geiger > > > > >

I am looking for any information on the family of William and Margaret Rendall Pottinger. Margaret was the daughter of William and Margaret Draver ? Rendall. The lived in Tirlot. William Pottinger b. 1813 Margaret Rendall Pottinger b. 1816 They were married 20 Dec 1837 in Westray Children: Mary b. 1839 George b. 1841 Jean or Jane b. 1843 Isabel b. 1846 William b. 1849 Thomas b. 1854 John b. 1856 It is possible that William is my Great-great grandfather who married Jane Miller of Sandsend, Westray. Both he and Thomas came to the United States between 1871-1874. Any information on these people would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Teresa Pottinger Geiger

I am looking for information on Henry John Sutherland born at Longhope, Hoy around 1860 and William Sutherland & Ann Kirkpatrick (Walls & Flotta) who may have been his parents. Rob Sutherland Names: Sutherland, McLeod, Kirkpatrick, Anderson, Ballentine ************************************************* Robert James Sutherland, Ph.D. Professor Depts of Psychology, Neuroscience, & Physiology (UNM) Dept of Psychology & Neuroscience (Adjunct,ULethbridge) Science Advisor, New Mexicans for Science and Reason Head, Behavioral Neuroscience Area Logan Hall, University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131-1161 Phone: (505)277-4870, 4871, or 4628 Fax: Lab (505)277-4628; Office (505)277-1394 *************************************************

I am a new subscriber - and looking for names: Elphinstone, Eday, Orkney; Swanney - North Haven, Orkney. Thanks

Just curious, any connection between Isbester and Inkster? I know there were a few spelling changes throughout the years.... Jeff Inkster Toronto, ON, CAN -----Original Message----- From: Roger Kelly <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] Isbester or Isbister Orkney > >-----Original Message----- >From: Les Kennedy <lkennedy@powerup.com.au> > > >>My GGGrandfather David Isbister was baptised at Harray in August 1792. His >>Father was William Isbester and Mother Jean Sinclair. David married Piggy. >>(Yes her birth was recorded as Piggy) Isbister on 28 July 1822 in Firth and >>Stenness. Her Father was David Isbester and Mother Christain Allan. Piggy >>was born on 20 November 1798 in Firth and Stenness.Their nine children were >>also born there. >>I hope someone else is tracing the same family. >>Les Kennedy lkennedy@powerup.com.au > >Les: > Your Isbisters and mine are pretty close I think. I am trying to find out >more about the lives, ancestors and descendants of my ggggrandparents George >CUSITER (1793-1872) and Jane or Jean ISBISTER (c1795-1857) of Nether >Hobbiston, Stennes, Firth. Both are buried in Finston Old Churchyard. Is >Jane a sister of David or Piggy or of another local or not so local Isbister >family? >Maybe there are clues in the names of the couple's children who appear to >be: >Jane CURSETER (b 1819, m James FIRTH) >Margaret CURSITER (b 1820, m John LEASK) >Anne CURSITER (b 1824) >John CURSITER (b 1826) >George Firth CUSITER (1830-1874, m Mary YOUNG Dalkeith -my ancestors) >James Isbister CURSITER (b 1832, m Margaret LEASK) >Peter Loutit CURSITER (b 1837) >Catharine CURSITER (b 1839, m Adam FLETT) >John Firth CUSITER (1842-1866) > >Roger Kelly -Midlothian, Scotland > > >

Greetings I normally do not post to this group but am sending this request for a fellow member of our Genealogical Group who does not have a computer nor access to the internet. She is looking for information on her husband's great-grandfather's family. The information she has is as follows: Robert REID was born 18 April 1827. (no middle name) He was the son of Robert REID and Betsy LOUTITT. He died at age 48 in 1875 on the Island of Eday. On 5 February 1852 he married Charlotte STEVENSON. Family stories say that the family were banished TO the Island of Eday. It is not known for sure if it was Robert & Charlotte who were banished or if it was his parents, Robert and Betsy. Where did the REID family come from prior to their being on the Island of Eday? What would the reason for the banishment have been? There is some suggestion that there may have been members of the family on the Island of Saray. If anyone can help with this quest please contact me and I will pass the information on to Helen. She is planning another trip to the Orkney Islands in May and would like to find something on the family before heading overseas. Thank you for taking the time to read this message and for any help that you may be able to provide. Rita Chernoff, cgrs Yorkton, Canada s.r.chernoff@sk.sympatico.ca

Roger Kelly wrote: > > > Catharine CURSITER (b 1839, m Adam FLETT) > Hi! Did Catharine Cursiter and Adam Flett ever move to Canada and have children? I am currently researching the Flett line. I'm looking for the parents of Mary Flett who married James Sangster. Thank-you for your time, Lise Boissonneault

-----Original Message----- From: Les Kennedy <lkennedy@powerup.com.au> >My GGGrandfather David Isbister was baptised at Harray in August 1792. His >Father was William Isbester and Mother Jean Sinclair. David married Piggy. >(Yes her birth was recorded as Piggy) Isbister on 28 July 1822 in Firth and >Stenness. Her Father was David Isbester and Mother Christain Allan. Piggy >was born on 20 November 1798 in Firth and Stenness.Their nine children were >also born there. >I hope someone else is tracing the same family. >Les Kennedy lkennedy@powerup.com.au Les: Your Isbisters and mine are pretty close I think. I am trying to find out more about the lives, ancestors and descendants of my ggggrandparents George CUSITER (1793-1872) and Jane or Jean ISBISTER (c1795-1857) of Nether Hobbiston, Stennes, Firth. Both are buried in Finston Old Churchyard. Is Jane a sister of David or Piggy or of another local or not so local Isbister family? Maybe there are clues in the names of the couple's children who appear to be: Jane CURSETER (b 1819, m James FIRTH) Margaret CURSITER (b 1820, m John LEASK) Anne CURSITER (b 1824) John CURSITER (b 1826) George Firth CUSITER (1830-1874, m Mary YOUNG Dalkeith -my ancestors) James Isbister CURSITER (b 1832, m Margaret LEASK) Peter Loutit CURSITER (b 1837) Catharine CURSITER (b 1839, m Adam FLETT) John Firth CUSITER (1842-1866) Roger Kelly -Midlothian, Scotland

For the person interested in the Fea surname, I was just browsing Amazon.com.uk and came across this: The diary of Patrick Fea of Stove, Orkney : 1766-96 Patrick Fea, W.S. Hewison / Hardcover / Published 1996 For those of you down under I saw this: Connections: Orkney-Australia Frank Foden / Paperback / Published 1992 Regards, Anne M. Rendall volunteer host Orkney GenWeb and Orkney-L http://rendall.net/orkney/

My Allans and Kennedys were from Orkney and it seems likely there is some connection with you, but not easy to discover. Do you have the "Notes on the Family of Kennedy of Kermuck and Stroma" published about the turn of the century by the Orkney Herald in Kirkwall? I could mail you a copy if you do not. Blake Allan, Victoria BC

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My GGGrandfather David Isbister was baptised at Harray in August 1792. His Father was William Isbester and Mother Jean Sinclair. David married Piggy. (Yes her birth was recorded as Piggy) Isbister on 28 July 1822 in Firth and Stenness. Her Father was David Isbester and Mother Christain Allan. Piggy was born on 20 November 1798 in Firth and Stenness.Their nine children were also born there. I hope someone else is tracing the same family. Les Kennedy lkennedy@powerup.com.au

I have found the web site but it only has the highlights of the articles. The 2 libraries in my area don't have many magazines from 1998. Does anyone have a copy of the article that they could snail mail me? While I was on the National Geographic web site I found out they also have printed 2 more articles but much older one. I'm hoping I will find these at our libraries due to the dates being much older and since our library has lots of the older copies. Janine > > > I read about an article in National Geography that is all about Orkney. Can > > anyone tell me what is the month and year of the magazine that this article > > appeared in? > > > > Also can anyone tell me where Burrastown is. > > > > Janine >

Hello Don, I wonder, if you have a spare moment if you could tell me what your surname book says about Garrioch. Thanks, Karen on Vancouver Island, BC Canada -----Original Message----- From: DRWGen@aol.com <DRWGen@aol.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 1:32 AM Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Did WESTRAY surname ever appear on Westray Is.? >Some time ago I ran across a book that was written back in the 40's that >showed the origin of Scottish surnames. The book, titled "The Surnames of >Scotland, Their Origin, Meaning and History", written by George F Black, PhD >has an entry for the surname Westray with the following explanation: > >"From the lands of Westray in the island of Westray, Orkney. Michael de >Westray witnessed a charter by Henry de St. Clair, earl of Orkney, apud >Kirkwaw, in 1391." > >Would someone help me understand the meaning of that statement as it applies >to my surname research as my research may or may not extend to the Orkneys? >My surname (WESTER) is occasionally intermixed with WESTRAY as I dig through >19th and 18th century records in Kentucky, North Carolina and Virginia, here >in the US. > >Thank you so much. >Don Wester in Minnesota >

Looking for any information on the family of Frances Sinclair b Dec 4 1802 in Orphir, Orkney. Frances married a William MacKay on Feb 7 1828 in Orphir, Orkney. They had the following children: Janet b Mar 28 1828 George b Nov 23 1829 James b Feb 12 1832 Jean b Mar 3 1834 Isabella b May 3 1835 William b Jun 18 1837 Margret b Feb 23 1840 John b Mar 20 1842 Betsey b Jun 9 1844 Fanny b July 1 1846 That's all I have of this family. What happened to them and where did they go?? Lou Kabel

Not able to answer your question except to say that apud in Latin means among, and the statement means, I think, that the charter was made or given by Henry de St Clair, Earl of Orkney. By coincidence, I have just returned a book to our local library about the same Henry de St Clair, a scholarly study of evidence he says he uncovered which shows St Clair (the ancestor of the Sinclair family) gathered a crew to sail across the Atlantic, and that they landed in what is now Nova Scotia and explored that area over 100 years before Columbus sailed. Quite convincing. Blake Allan