Linda I have just started a database on the Petrie's of Orkney and haven't been able to put all the lines together yet. After I send the email I realized I also had WGSB. I hadn't realized yet that Margaret and Mary where sisters and that George & Henry where brothers so thanks for that info. I have over 750 Petrie's from the Orkney's but I don't have a Hugh born in 1807, but I do have a Hugh born 1802 to Peter Petrie & Clementina Allen. Could it be your Hugh? This Hugh was still alive at the time of his father's death in 1855. Peter was the son of Andrew Petrie & Margaret Sutherland. I also have 2 other Hugh Petrie's who where married in the early 1800's but not much detail on the kids for these marriages. keep in touch and if I come across anything I will let you know. You may also try joining the PETRIE-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com list. Janine On Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:14 PM, Raymond and Linda Gee [SMTP:gees@home.com] wrote: > Janine ~ > Thanks for your reply. Yes, William Ibsister Baikie is one of my > possibles... his first cousin, William George Sinclair Baikie is the > other. WGSB's father was George (Henry's brother), and his mother was > Margaret Robertson Petrie (Mary Petrie's sister). Have you had any > success in tracing the Petries any further than Mary's and Margaret's > father Hugh (b. 1807 in Orphir)? And have you been able to trace Hugh's > wife, Isabel Linklater? > Linda > > Janine wrote: > > > > Linda > > I never saw your original post so I couldn't answer earlier. I am searching > > Petrie's in Orkney and I have a James Petrie Baikie born Sept. 20, 1865 > > son of Henry Baikie and Mary Petrie. I know it isn't your grandfather but > > don't give up trying. James had a brother William Isbister Baikie born Jan > > 10, 1867. Maybe this is your William?? > > Janine > > > > On Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM, teschek@tiac.net > > [SMTP:teschek@tiac.net] wrote: > > > > I know only that my great-grandfather was a William Baikie of > > > > Orkney, who emigrated to Illinois, USA where my grandfather James > > > > Petrie Baikie was born in 1901. I'm assuming there was a Petrie > > > > in his line somewhere close > > > > > > Linda, > > > Don't assume that there is a Petrie in your line because of a > > > middle name. My great grandfather was James Christie Craigie and > > > his father was (coincidentally) William Baikie Craigie, and through > > > research have discovered that there are no Christies or Baikies in > > > their ancestry. Sometime children's middle names came from > > > friends of the family or local individuals of some esteem rather than > > > from family members. > > > > > > > > > Bill Teschek > > > teschek@tiac.net > > > >

Janine ~ Thanks for your reply. Yes, William Ibsister Baikie is one of my possibles... his first cousin, William George Sinclair Baikie is the other. WGSB's father was George (Henry's brother), and his mother was Margaret Robertson Petrie (Mary Petrie's sister). Have you had any success in tracing the Petries any further than Mary's and Margaret's father Hugh (b. 1807 in Orphir)? And have you been able to trace Hugh's wife, Isabel Linklater? Linda Janine wrote: > > Linda > I never saw your original post so I couldn't answer earlier. I am searching > Petrie's in Orkney and I have a James Petrie Baikie born Sept. 20, 1865 > son of Henry Baikie and Mary Petrie. I know it isn't your grandfather but > don't give up trying. James had a brother William Isbister Baikie born Jan > 10, 1867. Maybe this is your William?? > Janine > > On Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM, teschek@tiac.net > [SMTP:teschek@tiac.net] wrote: > > > I know only that my great-grandfather was a William Baikie of > > > Orkney, who emigrated to Illinois, USA where my grandfather James > > > Petrie Baikie was born in 1901. I'm assuming there was a Petrie > > > in his line somewhere close > > > > Linda, > > Don't assume that there is a Petrie in your line because of a > > middle name. My great grandfather was James Christie Craigie and > > his father was (coincidentally) William Baikie Craigie, and through > > research have discovered that there are no Christies or Baikies in > > their ancestry. Sometime children's middle names came from > > friends of the family or local individuals of some esteem rather than > > from family members. > > > > > > Bill Teschek > > teschek@tiac.net > >

Linda I never saw your original post so I couldn't answer earlier. I am searching Petrie's in Orkney and I have a James Petrie Baikie born Sept. 20, 1865 son of Henry Baikie and Mary Petrie. I know it isn't your grandfather but don't give up trying. James had a brother William Isbister Baikie born Jan 10, 1867. Maybe this is your William?? Janine On Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM, teschek@tiac.net [SMTP:teschek@tiac.net] wrote: > > I know only that my great-grandfather was a William Baikie of > > Orkney, who emigrated to Illinois, USA where my grandfather James > > Petrie Baikie was born in 1901. I'm assuming there was a Petrie > > in his line somewhere close > > Linda, > Don't assume that there is a Petrie in your line because of a > middle name. My great grandfather was James Christie Craigie and > his father was (coincidentally) William Baikie Craigie, and through > research have discovered that there are no Christies or Baikies in > their ancestry. Sometime children's middle names came from > friends of the family or local individuals of some esteem rather than > from family members. > > > Bill Teschek > teschek@tiac.net >

> I know only that my great-grandfather was a William Baikie of > Orkney, who emigrated to Illinois, USA where my grandfather James > Petrie Baikie was born in 1901. I'm assuming there was a Petrie > in his line somewhere close Linda, Don't assume that there is a Petrie in your line because of a middle name. My great grandfather was James Christie Craigie and his father was (coincidentally) William Baikie Craigie, and through research have discovered that there are no Christies or Baikies in their ancestry. Sometime children's middle names came from friends of the family or local individuals of some esteem rather than from family members. Bill Teschek teschek@tiac.net

Hi, Jan ~ Thank you for the information. I've come across some of your surnames in following the ancestral line I'm currently tracing: As of right now, I do not have confirmed starting information, so am just "cruising" web sources. I know only that my great-grandfather was a William Baikie of Orkney, who emigrated to Illinois, USA where my grandfather James Petrie Baikie was born in 1901. I'm assuming there was a Petrie in his line somewhere close, so have settled upon 2 William Baikies born in the appropriate timeframe as probables ancestors. From there I've traced back through the Custer list and using the LDS FamilySearch website. Much of the ancestor line that I'm following on the LDS site comes from work submitted by D.S. Armstrong in Australia (who I've not contacted yet). I'm waiting until I can confirm (through US sources) the exact name of my great-grandfather before I jump in any deeper than what is available online. The surnames I'm looking at right now are: Baikie, Petrie, Robson/Robertson, Malcomson, Dunnet, Nicholson, Sinclair, Gray, Wilson Linda Baikie Gee Fremont, California, USA Robert Grant wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond and Linda Gee <gees@home.com> > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Longhope, Orkney > > >Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. > >Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns > >in each parish? And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating > >from Orkney to America/Canada would take? I'm interested in searching > >passenger lists. Thank you. > > I was just wondering what surnames you are researching since most of my > family came from Longhope. My main line is Smith, with others being Rich, > Nicolson, Allan, Wilson, Robson, Cromarty, Thomson, Omand, Bruce, Stout and > Sinclair. The small strip of land between North and South Walls is called > The Nyre. > > Jan Grant > Canberra, Australia

-----Original Message----- From: Mike Clouston <mcclouston@bigfoot.com> >I hate to sound pedantic, but the strip of land between North and South >Walls is called the AYRE not NYRE. Sorry Mike, That was a typo. Jan.

I hate to sound pedantic, but the strip of land between North and South Walls is called the AYRE not NYRE. Kind regards -- Mike Clouston mcclouston@bigfoot.com http://www.mike.clouston.ukgateway.net/ http://www.pegwell.ukgateway.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 29 May 1999 08:31 Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] Longhope, Orkney > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond and Linda Gee <gees@home.com> > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Longhope, Orkney > > > >Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. > >Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns > >in each parish? And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating > >from Orkney to America/Canada would take? I'm interested in searching > >passenger lists. Thank you. > > > I was just wondering what surnames you are researching since most of my > family came from Longhope. My main line is Smith, with others being Rich, > Nicolson, Allan, Wilson, Robson, Cromarty, Thomson, Omand, Bruce, Stout and > Sinclair. The small strip of land between North and South Walls is called > The Nyre. > > Jan Grant > Canberra, Australia > > >

Jan, Is that a typo (Rich) - I am researching Ritch who were to Orkney what Smith is to Australia Ivan Sunny Kambah round the corner! ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 29 May, 1999 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] Longhope, Orkney > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond and Linda Gee <gees@home.com> > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Longhope, Orkney > > > >Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. > >Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns > >in each parish? And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating > >from Orkney to America/Canada would take? I'm interested in searching > >passenger lists. Thank you. > > > I was just wondering what surnames you are researching since most of my > family came from Longhope. My main line is Smith, with others being Rich, > Nicolson, Allan, Wilson, Robson, Cromarty, Thomson, Omand, Bruce, Stout and > Sinclair. The small strip of land between North and South Walls is called > The Nyre. > > Jan Grant > Canberra, Australia >

-----Original Message----- From: Raymond and Linda Gee <gees@home.com> Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Longhope, Orkney >Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. >Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns >in each parish? And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating >from Orkney to America/Canada would take? I'm interested in searching >passenger lists. Thank you. I was just wondering what surnames you are researching since most of my family came from Longhope. My main line is Smith, with others being Rich, Nicolson, Allan, Wilson, Robson, Cromarty, Thomson, Omand, Bruce, Stout and Sinclair. The small strip of land between North and South Walls is called The Nyre. Jan Grant Canberra, Australia

>Raymond and Linda Gee wrote: >And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating from Orkney to >America/Canada would take? >Linda >Fremont, California, USA >Hi Linda. >For 200 years between 1690 & 1890, every year, hundreds of Orcadians signed >contracts with the Hudson Bay Company and sailed from Stromness to Canada. >Some >returned some settled in N America. >Longhope itself was a busy harbour in the18th and 19th century. J. G. Moodie >recorded that about 1805, at one time, there would be 300 vessels, of one >or two >masts, moored in the harbour. He recalls that he had seen 22 vessels, America >bound, set sail from Longhope in an afternoon. > I am researching Anderson, Banks, Cromarty, Mckay, Nicolson, Oman, Rich and >Robson from Walls. >Ron Hello Ron, you may want to check my web page re orkney's. http://www.island.net/~hme/mr.html Monte

This is a good Scottish Family Research Website. Has plenty of Links to other sites to help you with your Family Research. Researchers are also welcome to list other Links to this Website to help others with their Family Research. http://www.spiderweb.com.au/~frasbett Peter J. Fraser-Tibbett

-----Original Message----- From: Peter J. Fraser-Tibbett <frasbett@spiderweb.com.au> Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Re: Good Scottish Research Website >This is a good Scottish Family Research Website. Has plenty of Links to >other sites to help you with your Family Research. Researchers are also >welcome to list other Links to this Website to help others with their Family >Research. > >http://www.spiderweb.com.au/~frasbett > >Peter J. Fraser-Tibbett > >Thanks Peter, What an excellent site with so many links! Jan, Canberra, ACT > >

Raymond and Linda Gee wrote: And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating from Orkney to America/Canada would take? Linda Fremont, California, USA Hi Linda. For 200 years between 1690 & 1890, every year, hundreds of Orcadians signed contracts with the Hudson Bay Company and sailed from Stromness to Canada. Some returned some settled in N America. Longhope itself was a busy harbour in the18th and 19th century. J. G. Moodie recorded that about 1805, at one time, there would be 300 vessels, of one or two masts, moored in the harbour. He recalls that he had seen 22 vessels, America bound, set sail from Longhope in an afternoon. I am researching Anderson, Banks, Cromarty, Mckay, Nicolson, Oman, Rich and Robson from Walls. Ron

Raymond and Linda Gee wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. > Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns > in each parish? And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating > from Orkney to America/Canada would take? I'm interested in searching > passenger lists. Thank you. > > Linda > Fremont, California, USA Hi Linda The only Longhope I know of in Orkney is on the isalnd of Hoy in the parish of Walls and Flotta. My 3x great grandmother was baptised there 20 Aug 1786. Elizabeth Stout (or Stut) was the daughter of Andrew Stout and Katherine Millar. Hope this helps Helen Christchurch New Zealand

Karen I've just seen your email of a month ago. I'm interested in the minister of another Orkney UP congregation, the Rev Alexander Robertson of South Ronaldsay, who later led a fascinating life in San Remo and Venice. He would have been in South Ronaldsay in the 1870s. Is there any mention of S Ronaldsay's UPs or Rev Robertson in your Kirkwall book? And is there anything of Cusiter or Isbister or Spence UPs (if indeed they were of this denomination) coming to Kirkwall from Firth/Finston in the north during the years the book covers? Hope you can help. Roger Kelly Penicuik -----Original Message----- From: K&L Garrioch <garrioch@seaside.net> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 30 April 1999 17:18 Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Re: Kirkwall United Presbyterian Congregation >I recently bought, second hand, a book by Rev. David Webster published in >1910. It is a history of the Kirkwall United Presbyterian Congregation from >its formation in 1796 to its union with the Free Church in 1900. >Unfortunately there is no handy index at the end to make lookups easy >however, if anyone thinks they may have a connection to this particular >congregation, I would be happy to pass on what I can. >There is considerable information, as well as photographs of Rev. William >Broadfoot, Rev. Robert Patterson, and Reverend David Webster. >Karen Garrioch > >

> Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. Parish of Wall & Flotta, sometimes referred to as Walls. The island is Hoy. > Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns > in each parish? Not aware of any, but there are really only two towns in Orkney, Kirkwall and Stromness. The rest are large and small villages. Check out Orknet for lots more specific info. > And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating > from Orkney to America/Canada would take? Most of the Orcadians I am researching who emmigrated went from Liverpool, but that sould just be coincidental or the fact that they all came from the same family (albeit different generations). > I'm interested in searching passenger lists. Have you checked out the links to passenger lists from the LDS www.familysearch.org ? Good luck Catriona (Researching Groat and Baikie)

Can anyone tell me what parish Longhope is in, and what island it's on. Is there somewhere on the web an Orkney reference that lists the towns in each parish? And can anyone suggest what seaport someone emigrating from Orkney to America/Canada would take? I'm interested in searching passenger lists. Thank you. Linda Fremont, California, USA

Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] OPR BIRTHS >Dear Jan, > >Just saw your query about the Kirk Session Records. Almost all of the >extant K.S. records from the many parishes in Scotland have been collected >and now reside in the National Archives of Scotland (formerly the Scottish >Record Office). I'm sorry to report that very few of these have been >microfilmed and none, as far as I have been able to determine, are >available through LDS FHCs. The K.S. records for Orkney have been allowed >to stay in Kirkwall, unlike most of the others, but have not been >microfilmed either. Thus, if those for Walls and Flotta have survived, you >would have to view them there or possibly pay to have photocopies made, but >of which pages? > >Thanks Doug, It is certainly something to keep in mind. I may be able to get a cousin to look at them when she is next goes up to Orkney. Jan Canberra, Aust.>

Dear Jan, Just saw your query about the Kirk Session Records. Almost all of the extant K.S. records from the many parishes in Scotland have been collected and now reside in the National Archives of Scotland (formerly the Scottish Record Office). I'm sorry to report that very few of these have been microfilmed and none, as far as I have been able to determine, are available through LDS FHCs. The K.S. records for Orkney have been allowed to stay in Kirkwall, unlike most of the others, but have not been microfilmed either. Thus, if those for Walls and Flotta have survived, you would have to view them there or possibly pay to have photocopies made, but of which pages? All best wishes, Doug Nicol, Santa Rosa CA

> AGREED. > >I can't help wondering if you are trying to be too PC. <remainder of message snipped> God forbid that I should be accused of being politically correct! What I was trying to ask, in my heavy-handed way, was do you refer to your grandparents' brothers and sisters as great uncle and great aunt or grand uncle and grand aunt in a family tree context, not in a familiar context. We all have our pet names for our older relations - all my great/grand uncles and aunts were known just as uncle this or aunt that. The only person who got any preferential treatment was my wife's grandfather who was known as big granddad when he became a great grandfather, which helped avoid confusion. My own nieces, nephews and God-children very rarely call me Uncle Mike, because I have asked them not to - I just like to be called Mike. Kind regards -- Mike Clouston mcclouston@bigfoot.com http://www.mike.clouston.ukgateway.net/ http://www.pegwell.ukgateway.net/