I have some Muirs in my tree. They are from Rousay mainly. If you would like any further information please email me directly. Catriona ----- Original Message ----- From: elphinsj <elphinsj@cadvision.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 25 June 1999 10:23 Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Elphinstone, Swanney, Chalmers > I am looking for information on the Elphinstones on the Islands of > Orkney, outside of Kirkwall. Also the Swanneys, Muirs and Chalmers. > Thanks > >

Good and Bad News! Joseph Halcro and his family are listed on the 1881 cd set - unfortunately the surname is listed as "HALERS" -- I guess it was hard to read..... The place is listed as "Noins", to further complicate things. I found them by checking under "Robina Jane" and her ca. 1867 birth year on the actual census disc #1 of the Scottish Highland Counties.. [ It's also a good way to locate those missing daughter's whose married names are not known, if you have a less common given name to work with!] Happy Hunting! Stephen > From: finn@ionet.net (Greenwood) > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:40:31 GMT > Subject: [ORKNEY-L] 1881 census omissions > Listers - Have been waiting patiently for a replacement disc from the LDS chruch for the 1881 > Census set. I did not receive Disc #3, the one with the letter ' H ' for my HALCRO/Ws. When it > arrived yesterday, I find that the entire family was left off the CD set ! I know they existed, a > family member paid an Archivist in 1985 for the information to be researched in Kirkwall at the > Library. We have their complete listing at Orphir. This agrees with the previous census years. > > Joseph and Jessie HALCRO, and 7 of their 10 children are listed at Norns in Orphir. The children > were: Thomas (19), Robina Jane (14), James (12), Peter (9), Joseph (7), Margaret (5), and Mary E. > (2).

Listers - Have been waiting patiently for a replacement disc from the LDS chruch for the 1881 Census set. I did not receive Disc #3, the one with the letter ' H ' for my HALCRO/Ws. When it arrived yesterday, I find that the entire family was left off the CD set ! I know they existed, a family member paid an Archivist in 1985 for the information to be researched in Kirkwall at the Library. We have their complete listing at Orphir. This agrees with the previous census years. Joseph and Jessie HALCRO, and 7 of their 10 children are listed at Norns in Orphir. The children were: Thomas (19), Robina Jane (14), James (12), Peter (9), Joseph (7), Margaret (5), and Mary E. (2). The oldest son (William - 24) was already married, and living near Glasgow in Renfrewshire. We FOUND him there, and his wife, Isabella, with their eldest daughter, also an Isabella. Two remaining family members (John - 20 and Jessie Ann - 17) were probably employed elswhere, or had also left the Island, but they, too are not listed, even by the researcher. We know they survived, I guess I have to go to the 1891 census now. What is the rate of omission for this 1881 set? Have read speculations on other lists, have any other ORKNEY listers found their searches come up 'blanks' also? Thank you for any insights - Meg Greenwood - Oklahoma, USA

Hi to All.... with the set of 1881 British Census Index CDs Some may find this Index helpful to determine which disc to use when the Region is known. Arthur McGREGOR. New Zealand. REGION CODE COUNTRY DISC NAME & No. ====== ==== ======= =============== Aberdeen Aber Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Anglesey Angl Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Angus Angu Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Argyll Argy Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Ayr Ayr Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Banff Banf Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Bedford Bedf England East Anglia 1 Berkshire Berk England Greater London West 3 Berwick Berw Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Brecknock Brec Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Brecon Brec Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Buckingham Buck England Greater London East 4 Bute Bute Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Caernarvon Caer Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Caithness Cait Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Cambridge Camb England East Anglia 1 Cardigan Card Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Carmarthen Carm Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Channel Islands ChaI England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Cheshire Ches England Midlands West 1 Clackmannan Clac Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Cornwall Corn England Southwestern 1 Cumberland Cumb England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Denbigh Denb Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Derby Derb England Midlands East 2 Devon Devo England Southwestern 1 Dorset Dors England Southwestern 1 Dumfries Dumf Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Dunbarton Dunb Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Durham Durh England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 East Lothian ELot Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Edinburgh Mlot Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Elgin Mora Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Essex Esse England Greater London East 4 Fife Fife Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Flint Flin Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Forfar Angu Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Glamorgan Glam Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Gloucester Glou England Southwestern 1 Haddington ELot Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Hampshire Hamp England Greater London West 3 Hereford Here England Midlands West 1 Hertford Hert England Greater London East 4 Huntingdon Hunt England East Anglia 1 Inverness Inve Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Isle of Man IMan England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Isle of Wight Hamp England Greater London West 3 Kent Kent England Greater London East 4 Kincardine Kinc Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Kinross Kinr Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Kirkcudbright Kirk Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Lanark Lana Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Lancashire Lanc England North Central 1 & 2 Leicester Leic England Midlands East 2 Lincoln Linc England East Anglia 1 Linlithgow WLot Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 London Lond England London/Middlesex 1 or 2 Merioneth Meri Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Middlesex Lond England London/Middlesex 1 or 2 Midlothian Mlot Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Miscellaneous Unkn England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Monmouth Monm Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Montgomery Mntg Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Moray Mora Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Nairn Nair Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Navy Navy Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Norfolk Norf England East Anglia 1 Northampton Nham England East Anglia 1 Northumberland Nthu England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Nottingham Nott England Midlands East 2 Orkney Orkn Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Oxford Oxfo England Greater London West 3 Peeble Peeb Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Pembroke Pemb Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Perth Pert Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Radnor Radn Wales Wales & Monmouth 1 Renfrew Renf Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Ross & Cromarty RoCr Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Roxburgh Roxb Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Royal Navy Navy England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Rutland Rutl England East Anglia 1 Salop Shro England Midlands West 1 Selkirk Selk Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Shetland Shet Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Shropshire Shro England Midlands West 1 Somerset Som England Southwestern 1 Southampton Hamp England Greater London West 3 Stafford Staf England Midlands West 1 Stirling Stir Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Suffolk Suff England East Anglia 1 Surrey Surr England Greater London West 3 Sussex Suss England Greater London East 4 Sutherland Suth Scotland Scotland Highlands 1 Warwick Warw England Midlands East 2 West Lothian WLot Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Westmorland Wmor England Nth.Boarders & Misc. 1 Wigtown Wigt Scotland Scotland Lowlands 2 Wiltshire Wilt England Southwestern 1 Worcester Worc England Midlands West 1 York York England North Central 3 & 4 Zetland Shet Scotland Scotland Highlands 1

I would enjoy hearing from anyone else investigating the Corner families, especially as relate to Andrew Corner of Longhope Wm Voss s

Hi Bill, Here is some information about my Groundwater family. 1.Edward G/W born about 1753 in Orphir,Oki.,marr Sibily Smith,8.1.1778,St.Andrews,Oki. 2. Edward G/W b.4.7.1783,St.Andrews,(chd no.3 of 8),marr Isabella Matches,19.12.1813,St.Andrews,Oki. 3.Robert Paterson G/W,b.13.3.1822--1850,(chd no 5 of 8),St.Andrews,marr.Anne E. Muir 20.8.1844. 4. Barbara Elizt. G/W b. 1845,(chd 1 of 3,as R.P. G/W died young)....she was my gt grandmother,marr. Wm MacLeod of Reay, Cai.They migrated to Sydney,Australia in 1884. Other G/W's of her generation and of her father's generation also migrated ranging from about 1850---mid 1880's I can send more G/W information re my family if you wish. Maybe the Cursiter list of G/W's should be updated !!!! Regards Janette in Melbourne. ----- Original Message ----- From: William D Groundwater <orcadian@juno.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 10:59 PM Subject: [ORKNEY-L] Robert Paterson GROUNDWATER > I was interested in Janette's (janmax@vds.net.au) on a Robert Paterson > GROUNDWATER, since a quick search doesn't turn up that name in the > cursister.com listing of Groundwaters. > > My line within that listing goes back to: > > William Groundwater, b 16 January 1839, son of William Groundwater (2) > and Mary Walker, Old Machar, Aberdeen. > > The father of William GROUNDWATER(2) was a William GROUNDWATER, soldier, > who married an Isabella CAMERON. He is not in the Cursister.com listing > either. He would have been born abt 1788, but I have not yet been able to > find further information about him, eg. born in Orkney (Orphir?), or in > Aberdeen? > > I would be interested in what information Janette has on GROUNDWATER, so > see if I can make a connection. > > > Bill Groundwater > > Tucson, Arizona > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > >

Hi All, I have compiled a DataBase of Scottish Parishes with their Parish numbers and IGI Batch numbers. This list being a DataBase can be converted from Alphabetical to Numerical making it most useful when only name or number is known. It can also be altered and added too. Please advise by DIRECT email to: <aamcgreg@es.co.nz> with the DataBase program you have installed. eg. MicroSoft Works 95/98. MicroSoft Excel. MicroSoft Access Lotus Approach. Any other. This ParishNo.Data will need to be unzipped with Winzip/PKunzip/Netzip or similar. Arthur McGREGOR Dunedin New Zealand.

I was interested in Janette's (janmax@vds.net.au) on a Robert Paterson GROUNDWATER, since a quick search doesn't turn up that name in the cursister.com listing of Groundwaters. My line within that listing goes back to: William Groundwater, b 16 January 1839, son of William Groundwater (2) and Mary Walker, Old Machar, Aberdeen. The father of William GROUNDWATER(2) was a William GROUNDWATER, soldier, who married an Isabella CAMERON. He is not in the Cursister.com listing either. He would have been born abt 1788, but I have not yet been able to find further information about him, eg. born in Orkney (Orphir?), or in Aberdeen? I would be interested in what information Janette has on GROUNDWATER, so see if I can make a connection. Bill Groundwater Tucson, Arizona ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:36:51 +1000 "Janette Thomson" <janmax@vds.net.au> writes: >Hi to all list-members, >I would like to contact descendants of John MUIR,(d.1846) and Barbara >MUIR,(d.1868).Both born in Sanday. >John was miller of Papdale Mills,near Kirkwall.One dau.Anne Elizt.MUIR >marr.Robt.Paterson GROUNDWATER( I know about this line), another son >Robert lived in Kirkwall,and another >James MUIR,miller of Isbister marr.Jane DEERNESS....their son John >MUIR was a watch-maker in Lerwick. >No doubt their were more children for John and Barbara MUIR. >Hoping to hear from someone out there !!! >Janette in Melbourne > >elbourne > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Hi to all list-members, I would like to contact descendants of John MUIR,(d.1846) and Barbara MUIR,(d.1868).Both born in Sanday. John was miller of Papdale Mills,near Kirkwall.One dau.Anne Elizt.MUIR marr.Robt.Paterson GROUNDWATER( I know about this line), another son Robert lived in Kirkwall,and another James MUIR,miller of Isbister marr.Jane DEERNESS....their son John MUIR was a watch-maker in Lerwick. No doubt their were more children for John and Barbara MUIR. Hoping to hear from someone out there !!! Janette in Melbourne elbourne

Hi to all list-members, I would like to find descendants of Jemima FOULIS,(1834---1910) and Thomas WALLS,married in Kirkwall in 1856. I am on her brother James Cumming FOULIS' line. Janette in Melbourne.

Joyce, I have a Thomas Swanney who married Jane Irvine 7 Jan, 1836 Eday & Pharay, orkney. their son John Swanney born 20 Feb, 1841. Most of this family in Eday & Pharay, then Shapinsay. I have other siblings, etc., but none seem to fit yours. Could be cousins, so hang in there. I am trying to find birth particulars on Thomas S. Have you checked out this site? <A HREF="http://www.cursiter.com/">Orkney Islands, Scotland Genealogy Website </A> all the best, Deb

Looking for connections to James THOMSON, born Sanday 1816, son of Andrew THOMSON and Mary WILSON. James was married in Our Lady Parish 1847 to Jane SINCLAIR. At least eight children, born between 1849-1863, resulted from the marriage of James and Jane: Mary, Catherine, Andrew, Jane, Jemima, Ann, John, and Robert. Only two of these children have been traced so far. Mary THOMSON (child #1 of 8), born 1849 on Sanday, married first James Alexander LYALL, who died at sea in 1874. The two children from this marriage were Edith Merion Forbes LYALL and James Alexander LYALL. Mary married second Malcolm Charles ARTHUR with whom she had seven children. All emigrated to the USA in 1890s. Andrew THOMSON (child #3 of 8), born 1853, was a solicitor in Kirkwall. He had worked for the town clerk and later was the agent for crofters before the Crofters Commission as well as a member of the Kirkwall School Board and the County Council . At his death in 1894, he left a wife and three children [not yet identified].

Hello! I'm a new subscriber to this mailing list and I'm just about to start searching my Orkney ancestors. The only info that I have so far pertains to my Great Grandparents, John DICKSON and Georgina Ann DICKSON (formerly WARD). John Dickson was born on South Ronaldsay in 1872; Georgina Ann Ward was born on Hoy in 1885. They married on October 1, 1903. At some point, they moved to Toronto, Canada....but I'm not sure when. My Grandmother, as far as I know, was born in Toronto in 1915. Georgina Ann Ward's mother's maiden name was WEIR. Does any of this information ring any bells??

I tried to reach you through your web site that you gave regarding the Swanney, but I got a "couldn't send". I hope this reaches you. John Swanney about 1815 married Mary Muir. They had a daughter Mary. John Swanney born 1830 in North Haven, Orkney married Margaret Gray. Children were Annie Swanney, born March 9,1866. married Peter Elphinstone 1890 in Sanday, Orkney I hope this is of some help and reaches you. Joyce

Thanks to Janine I now know that the Rosanna Petrie I was looking for in sillardyke, Burray was born c 1858 to William Petrie and Christina Ross and known as Ann. William must have died soon after as in the 1861 census Ann Petrie aged 3 is living with her grandmother Christina Ross. In the 1871 census she is still at Sillardyke listed as step daughter of James Bruce, farmer and Christina, wife Also her siblings Jemima Bruce b c 1866, John Bruce bc 1867 and Jane Bruce b1871 Christina Ross her grandmother is still alive and staying with them. She is 81 and listed as born in Stroma, Caithness Ring any bells Kay

Janette I have a Sibly Matches married to a James Petrie in St. Andrews in my Orkney Petrie's database married Dec. 8, 1771. I also have a few children for this couple if your interested. Janine On Monday, June 28, 1999 9:07 PM, Janette Thomson [SMTP:janmax@vds.net.au] wrote: > Hi to all list members, > I have just subscribed to the list so will send the family names that I am researching. > FOULIS...P/W ,(upto 18350's) and Kirkwall..(1830's on) > SLATER...Janet b.c.1808on Sanday marr.John FOULIS , Anne b.1818 on Sanday,marr.Wm.CAMPBELL > GROUNDWATER....Orphir and St.Andrews. > MUIR...Sanday and Kirkwall > MATCHES...St.Andrews, > BURGAR,REID & LESLIE...P/W. > SMITH,FLETT & COPLAND...St.Andrews. > BARNEY...any time and anywhere. > Hoping to hear, > Janette in Melbourne > > > e > > >

Hi to all list members, I am trying to contact any descendants of Capt. John FOULIS and Janet SLATER. John b.1814 was a son of Oliver FOULIS and Anne REID,(P/W). His family were: Jemima b.1834,marr.Thomas WALLS...most anxious to establish contact with desc's.on this line. Wm.b.1837..a sea captain I believe,may have marr Mary and had a few dau's ??? John,1839--1848 James Cumming F. 1841--1920,migrated to Australia..alos sea captain.(my gt gr f.) Janet Mowat F,1844,marr. James BAIKIE... Robert Christie F,1848-1924 Barbara Logie F,1851,marr.Wm.WARDS John b.1853,marr Bessie ? In hope, Janette in Melbourne lbourne

Hi to all list members, I have just subscribed to the list so will send the family names that I am researching. FOULIS...P/W ,(upto 18350's) and Kirkwall..(1830's on) SLATER...Janet b.c.1808on Sanday marr.John FOULIS , Anne b.1818 on Sanday,marr.Wm.CAMPBELL GROUNDWATER....Orphir and St.Andrews. MUIR...Sanday and Kirkwall MATCHES...St.Andrews, BURGAR,REID & LESLIE...P/W. SMITH,FLETT & COPLAND...St.Andrews. BARNEY...any time and anywhere. Hoping to hear, Janette in Melbourne e

Unsubscribe. elphinsj wrote: > I am looking for information on the Elphinstones on the Islands of > Orkney, outside of Kirkwall. Also the Swanneys, Muirs and Chalmers. > Thanks