At 11:57 PM 8/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >PETRIE, PETRY F, dim ' PETER/PATRICK' Scots Gaelic forms. > > >I've checked back in my files and, on 26 November '98 I posted a query to a >Sharon who had referred to a book.. > > GREGOR LAMB'S ORKNEY SURNAMES > >If Sharon is still on the list, perhaps she could fill us in on that book and >it's availability? > > > Bill, It was me, I was posting info from Gregor Lamb's book. I had the book on a long loan from a family member and finally returned it. The archives of the list are searchable, you can find other references to your surnames of interest at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl enter the name of the list Orkney-L hit return, then when you reach the next page enter your query I may have offered a listing on the name from Mr. Lamb's book previously. Anne Rendall

SUTHERLAND L The Scots county, 'south land' ON-It was south to the Vikings compared with Orkney and Shetland. 58th commonest names in Scotland in 1958 (dropping nine places in 100 years).

Hi Don, Thanks for your reply. Ann has responded.. she does not think there is a connection. I shall visit her web site though phil ----- Original Message ----- From: <Djrendall@aol.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 9 August 1999 10:48 Subject: Re: [ORKNEY-L] TRAINOR > Phillip, my great grandfather was James Yorston Rendall. We know he > emigrated from the Orkneys to Cleveland, Ohio USA (via Canada) sometime > before 1900. With Ann Rendall's help, I have found a birth record for James >

Bill Does your book have the name Petrie in it??? Janine -----Original Message----- From: Grndwtr@aol.com [SMTP:Grndwtr@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 11:24 AM To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: (was Re: [ORKNEY-L] Re: Orkney Surname - ISBISTER) I have a copy of the "Penguin Dictionary of Surnames" first published in 1967...it lists "Isbister as: "L 'estuary/more easterly/outermost farm settlement' ON; four places in Orkney(also found in Shetland), and a typical Orkney and Shetland surname, including that of the first civilian casualty of the Second World War." Bill Groundwater Tucson, AZ

Grndwtr@aol.com wrote: > > I have a copy of the "Penguin Dictionary of Surnames" first published in > 1967...it lists "Isbister as: > > "L 'estuary/more easterly/outermost farm settlement' ON; four places in > Orkney(also found in Shetland), and a typical Orkney and Shetland surname, > including that of the first civilian casualty of the Second World War." > > Bill Groundwater > Tucson, AZ Bill: I have just started doing research on the following surnames that I believe are from the Orkney Islands. Would any of the following surnames be on the Penguin Dictionary of Surnames? Here are the ones I am researching: LESLIE, MUIR and FARTHINGHAM. Would you be so kind to tell me if you find these names? I would be so grateful if you would do a look-up for me. Thank you! Charlene Racine, Wisconsin

Anne M. Rendall wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm working on the much needed update to the Orkney GenWeb site today, I'd > like to compile a list of known Orkney place names around the world, if you > know of any, please let me know - including places with Orcadian surnames - > someone told me there's a Rendall Road some place, (though I forget where) > I'd like to know about those places as well. > > Thanks > > Regards, > > Anne Rendall > Volunteer list owner Orkney-L and host of Orkney Gen Web > http://www.rendall.net/orkney/ > > Surname interests include: Westray Rendalls, Stevensons, Seatters, Coopers, > Reids, and others. Anne: I am just starting research on the following names from the Orkney Islands: LESLIE, MUIR and FARTHINGHAM. Some of these people moved to Woodstock, Ontario Canada and some moved to France. Would any of these names be familiar to you as being on the Orkney list? Would be anxious to know if you have heard of any of these names. Charlene Racine, Wisconsin

Hi folks, I've put the new Orkney Gen Web site up at http://www.rendall.net/orkney/ it's not finished but I've got more information there than I had before. I have a collection of sites I'll be adding to the link page, and the research page, but I'd appreciate suggestions, and contributions especially links with descriptions, or short articles you care to write or have written about your research, you ancestors, their emigration, etc. (I volunteered to be the host of the Orkney Gen Web site, but I'm willing to share the duties) I only have the ability to test the site with Netscape Navigator 4.x and Internet Explorer 5.x I can't install Netscape Navigator 3.x or lower version of IE on my Windows 98 computer. I do want the site to be accessible to all browsers so if you have problems viewing the site on a lower version browser please let me know. If you do have an old browser, however, you really should consider updating it, besides security patches to both (more necessary with IE) they have terrific features over older browsers. You can always pick them up at a place like http://www.download.com Surname Query Boards Did you know that Rootsweb has established Surname boards? In fact they have established clusters of resources - mailing lists, obit queries, bible queries, bio queries, etc. I just discovered that there is a Rendall mailing list, so I subscribed, but I'm the only one so far, it seems. . . You should consider visiting http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html enter the surnames you're interested in to see if these resources have been established for the names, if not you may request that they be created. If they are not being maintained, you may be able to "adopt" them see http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html for information And if you see names that should be included at the Orkney GenWeb, please let me know. Thanks Regards, Anne Rendall Volunteer list owner Orkney-L and host of Orkney Gen Web http://www.rendall.net/orkney/ Surname interests include: Westray Rendalls, Stevensons, Seatters, Coopers, Reids, and others.

PETRIE, PETRY F, dim ' PETER/PATRICK' Scots Gaelic forms. I've checked back in my files and, on 26 November '98 I posted a query to a Sharon who had referred to a book.. GREGOR LAMB'S ORKNEY SURNAMES If Sharon is still on the list, perhaps she could fill us in on that book and it's availability? Bill Groundwater Tucson, AZ

Thanks so much. Interesting info. Isbister is the original "version" of my maiden name which was anglicized/corrupted to "Ivester." Thanks again. Frances Ivester Simonian

Hi everyone, I am new to your list and curious to see if anyone might share in my Orkney connections. William Sinclair born 1766 in Harra,Pamona John Shearer married to Jane Sinclair William Shearer married to Margaret Eunson 21,Nov.1830 Robert Shearer born 13,Nov. 1831 James Taylor born 19,Sept 1791 in Ophir James Inkster born 1774 in Orphir Thanks,Arlene

I'm a new subscriber. Researching the FEA and associated families of Orkney. My branch then were found in Stirlingshire SCT and immigrated to the U.S. in 1853. Have information on U.S. branch but am hoping to further our Orkney/SCT connections. Here is my branch as we know it. John Fea b. 1767(raised by Traill's of Orkney) d. 12 Jan 1862 Falkirk, Stirling m Elizabeth Brown? Alexander Fea dau Fea Simon Fea? James Trail Fea b.9 Nov 1808 Falkirk, Stirling John Charles Timman? Fea Thomas Brown Fea b.18 June 1815 Stirlingshire SCT d. 24 Nov. 1870 Potosi, MO, USA ----> This is the line I have further information on Hope to travel to Orkney within the year and do research there. Appreciate email correspondence with anyone from Orkney or who has traveled there to do research.

Phillip, my great grandfather was James Yorston Rendall. We know he emigrated from the Orkneys to Cleveland, Ohio USA (via Canada) sometime before 1900. With Ann Rendall's help, I have found a birth record for James Yorston Rendall, born September 16, 1855 in Evie and Rendall, Orkney, to William Rendall and Ann Irvine. James Yorston had a sister, Ann, born February 22, 1835 at Evie and Rendall. You will find these records in the Rendall Files at Ann Rendall's website, Rendall.net. The dates don't seem to fit, but maybe there is a connection. What do you think? Incidentally, I am the Vermonter to whom Ann Rendall referred in her reply to you of August 7, 1999. Don Rendall

I have a copy of the "Penguin Dictionary of Surnames" first published in 1967...it lists "Isbister as: "L 'estuary/more easterly/outermost farm settlement' ON; four places in Orkney(also found in Shetland), and a typical Orkney and Shetland surname, including that of the first civilian casualty of the Second World War." Bill Groundwater Tucson, AZ

At 11:06 PM 8/7/99 -0400, you wrote: >Would the name "Isbister" be considered an "Orkney Surname?" I think so, wish I had my book still. Does anyone else have a book on Surnames? Regards, Anne Rendall Volunteer list owner Orkney-L and host of Orkney Gen Web http://www.rendall.net/orkney/ Surname interests include: Westray Rendalls, Stevensons, Seatters, Coopers, Reids, and others.

>Would the name "Isbister" be considered an "Orkney Surname?" I think so, wish I had my book still. Does anyone else have a book on Surnames? Regards, Anne Rendall Volunteer list owner Orkney-L and host of Orkney Gen Web http://www.rendall.net/orkney/ Anne, There are approx. 25 Isbisters in the phone book 8 with Orkney addresses the rest are in Shetland so it looks like it is more of a Shetland name. Jim.

Orkney and Shetland I would say.

Hi Anne, Yes please I would be most interested to receive anything that you may have, Regards Phillip Linklater ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne M. Rendall <anne@rendall.net> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 7 August 1999 23:33 Subject: Re: (was Re: [ORKNEY-L] TRAINOR) > At 03:39 PM 8/7/99 +1200, you wrote: > >Hi, I am seeking information on Mary MAINLAND born about 1845. She was the > >daughter of James MAINLAND and Ann RENDALL. There were two brothers, James > >(b.1837), and John Yorston Rendall (b1840). > >Mary Married Hugh TRAINOR of Fifeshire (his parents were Owen and Margaret). > >Mary and Hugh emigrated from (?) to New Zealand..Dunedin I think as their 4 > >children were all born there. > >I would be grateful for any further information. > >Regards > >Phillip Linklater > >Auckland, New Zealand. > > Phillip, > > Somebody was asking me about a James Yorston Rendall not too long ago, I > believe he lived in Vermont. I archived the first half of the year's mail, > if you're interested let me know and I'll dig it up. > > Anne Rendall >

Would the name "Isbister" be considered an "Orkney Surname?"

At 02:49 PM 8/7/99 -0600, Robert James Sutherland wrote: > >I wonder in relation to your request for world-wide place names, what >constitutes an Orkney surname? What constitutes an Orkney surname? Well, I guess ones that have only, or a primary association with Orkney, but it's a tough call on some, I know. I no longer have my edition of Orkney Surnames, but there are close to 300 that Gregor Lamb identifies as being Orcadian. Some like Stevenson and Robertson are common other places as well. So far as the place names based on Orcadian surnames, I'm not looking for a definitive link, just a probable one, since people who emigrate often are joined in the same area by others from their homeland, I imagine there are clusters around the world where there are Orkney place names. I was wondering if people happened to know of any such place names from their research or live near any, I do recall hearing from Canadians about the frequency of Orkney place names in certain regions, but I didn't keep record of them. Anne Rendall

I wonder in relation to your request for world-wide place names, what constitutes an Orkney surname? Surnames of interest: Sutherland - Kirkpatrick - Ballenden(Ballantine) - Shearer - Cromartie - Mcleod - Barnetsone ************************************************* Robert James Sutherland, Ph.D. Professor Depts of Psychology, Neuroscience, & Physiology (UNM) Dept of Psychology & Neuroscience (Adjunct,ULethbridge) Science Advisor, New Mexicans for Science and Reason Head, Behavioral Neuroscience Area Logan Hall, University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131-1161 Phone: (505)277-4870, 4871, or 4628 Fax: Lab (505)277-4628; Office (505)277-1394 *************************************************