My ancestors were TWATT & CORRIGALL and LOUTTIT & FLETT from Harray, Orkney. John Twatt born 1809 married Margaret (Peggy) Louttit. Does anyone know anything about these families? __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/

Looking for any information on the family of Frances Sinclair, b. Dec 4 1802 in Orphir, Orkney. Frances married a William MacKay on Feb 7 1828 in Orphir, Orkney. they had the following children: Janet b. Mar 28 1828 George b. Nov 23 1829 James b. Feb 12 1832 Jean b. Mar 3 1834 Isabella b. May 3 1835 William b. Jun 18 1837 Margret b. Feb 23 1840 John b. Mar 20 1842 Betsey b. June 8 1844 Fanny b. July 1 1846 Lou Kabel

Lou, I might be able to help a little - do you have the names of Frances Sinclair's parents? Evelyn Lou Kabel wrote: > Looking for any information on the family of Frances Sinclair, b. Dec 4 1802 in Orphir, Orkney. Frances married a William MacKay on Feb 7 1828 in Orphir, Orkney. they had the following children: > > Janet b. Mar 28 1828 > George b. Nov 23 1829 > James b. Feb 12 1832 > Jean b. Mar 3 1834 > Isabella b. May 3 1835 > William b. Jun 18 1837 > Margret b. Feb 23 1840 > John b. Mar 20 1842 > Betsey b. June 8 1844 > Fanny b. July 1 1846 > > Lou Kabel

Dear Listmembers, I've made the move back to Luzerne Co. PA and am in the process of getting the house organized. The fall colors are just beautiful right now all around the lake. I just got my new ISP and email address, so what is the first thing to do? Resubscribe to the lists, of course. I'm sure I've missed a lot of interesting discussions and probably some valuable info, but I'll just have to go through the archived postings. All best wishes to all, Doug Nicol, Harvey's Lake, Pennsylvania

Hi Ken I have no Isabella SKEA in my line, but the following may help you. Isabel SKAY (F)....................... B: 4 Nov 1811 Ba: C114115 Father: William SKAY Burntisland, Fife, Scotland So: 1040151 Mother: Margaret MOYES Isabel SKEA (F)....................... B: 11 Jul 1816 Ba: C110142 Father: Andrew SKEA Deerness, Orkney, Scotland So: 919498 Mother: Isabel BEAKY Pr: 6901939 Isabella SKEA (F)..................... C: 23 Mar 1816 Ba: C110212 Father: William SKEA Kirkwall And St. Ola, Orkney, So: 990503,990504 Mother: Margaret SCOTT Scotland Pr: 6902054 Cheers Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Harrison <mcharrison@compuserve.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 1:16 AM Subject: [ORKNEY] SKAE > Charles > > Do you have any note of an Isabella SKAE/SKEA (b. abt 1815) who

Charles Do you have any note of an Isabella SKAE/SKEA (b. abt 1815) who married James SMELLIE (either in Orkney before 1843 or after emigration to British Guiana about that time)? Message text written by INTERNET:ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:58:10 +0100 From: "Charles Lyon" <Charles.lyon@btinternet.com> Hi All Petter (Peter) SKAE and GRace CRUM are my G.Grandparents. Regards Charles LYON Maghull Merseyside UK < Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com Islay McNABB, MORRISON Lanark SMELLIE, WICKETSHAW, SELKRIG Dumfries MURRAY, TAKET, HENDERSON, GILLESPIE Renfrew MURRAY, CALDWELL, BAIRD Dumbarton MORRISON Glasgow STIRRAT, SMELLIE, MORRISON Caithness MILLER, BAIN Orkney SMELLIE, SPENCE, TRAILL Suffolk THOMPSON, AGGUS, BRIGHTWELL Yorkshire HARRISON, POTCHIT, MAINPRICE Staffordshire HARRISON, GRIFFIN, STANLEY London (Highgate/Hampstead) HARRISON, FISHER Tyrone CALDWELL, GRAHAM Swaziland MILLER Australia, Vic MORRISON, HAMM Australia, Tas SMELLIE Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

Hi All I have just subscribed after an absence and have listed my interests on ORKNEY. All of the people listed were from SANDAY except Ann Heddle who was from Kirkwall & St OLA. Thomas Skea/Ann HEDDLE - --------------------------- Janet SKAE/James GARRIOCH Jaen (Jane) SKAE/Thomas Tomisons *** Petter SKAE/Grace CRUM Ann SKAE/James SLATER *** Margaret SKAE/John MOODIE *** *** All unconfirmed.*** Petter (Peter) SKAE and GRace CRUM are my G.Grandparents. I have contact with the descendants of Janet SKAE and James GARRIOCH. Anyone who recognises any connections, please contact me. (Hi Bill in New Zealand) Regards Charles LYON Maghull Merseyside UK

A few weeks ago, someone on this list sent me an email and enclosed a document on Slaters and Isbisters. In the process of trying to open the document, I deleted the e mail message, and thus do not have the senders name or e mail address. Would whoever sent this please e mail me directly again? Thanks. Jane

see www.orknet.co.uk/tourism/harray.htm sue ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, The website address for the Scottish Registrar is www.origins.net. Thats the one I use. Catherine Alabama USA

Regarding the message below, what is the website for ordering certificates from the Scottish Registrar General? Thank you for your help. Marybeth Corrigall ACMBJC@aol.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 10/13/99 1:21:27 AM, Jackie wrote: <<Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:03:19 -0400 From: "Jackie Middleton" <jackiemiddleton@home.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ORKNEY] document advice I've been pretty successful ordering exact certificates from the Scottish Registrar General. The next document that I'd like to get - a birth certificate - I have all the info (parents, place, year) but the *exact* day. I was hoping that someone on the list might know if I could still order this certificate. In the papers that I have from their website, it sounds like they would search their records for a time frame of a year, but I'd like to know if anyone on this list has requested a certificate with this one piece of info missing. Jackie </XMP>>>

If the birth was between 1855 and 1875, the exact date should be listed on the IGI. 1855 is when Civil Registration began in Scotland and I understand that the Registrar-General's Index for Scotland is on-line from 1855 to 1898. The Registrar-General's Index is less informative than the IGI but it does give you the reference that is needed to obtain a certificate. I believe the Certificates can be ordered on line. I should also point out that the Civil Registers of Births, Deaths and Marriages for Scotland from 1855 to 1875, plus the two Census years of 1881 and 1891 are on microfilm and can be ordered through your local Mormon library. Prior to 1855, you'll be looking for a baptism. The Established Church of Scotland (ie mainstream Presbyterian) Parish Registers are also available through the Mormon Libraries and are indexed on the IGI. The Presbyterian Church in the 19th century split every time they had an argument resulting in Heinz 57 varieties of Presbyterians including the Free Church, United Presbyterians etc etc. If you're family is on of these, you'll need to locate where the Registers are for that Church. Cheers David Perth, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Middleton <jackiemiddleton@home.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 9:03 AM Subject: [ORKNEY] document advice > I've been pretty successful ordering exact certificates from the Scottish > Registrar General. > > The next document that I'd like to get - a birth certificate - I have all > the info (parents, place, year) but the *exact* day. > I was hoping that someone on the list might know if I could still order this > certificate. In the papers that I have from their website, > it sounds like they would search their records for a time frame of a year, > but I'd like to know if anyone on this list has requested > a certificate with this one piece of info missing. > > Jackie > >

> Just out of curosity, do you have an email address for the Scottish > Registrar General. I have not got nearly as close as you to uncovering > specific records but would like to stash that address away for future > reference. Someday I might get there. Hi there! I don't have an email address for enquiries....but I can give you the web address: www.open.gov.uk/gros/leaflet2.htm This page is part of a much larger site...you'll probably find the address that you need in the larger portion of this site (www.open.gov.uk/gros/ Apparently there is a way to order documents over the email but I did not look into that. I don't think that they have an e address for enquiries. > Would this Registrar General have records for just certain parishes or all > of Scotland or Orkney. All of Scotland. I think it's the eqivalent of the records office in England - birth, deaths, marriages. Good luck!! I've had great success so far - they are fast too!! I've ordered my certificates through the post and I get the certs. back within 2 weeks (I'm in Canada). Jackie

Jackie, Just out of curosity, do you have an email address for the Scottish Registrar General. I have not got nearly as close as you to uncovering specific records but would like to stash that address away for future reference. Someday I might get there. Would this Registrar General have records for just certain parishes or all of Scotland or Orkney. Dan Grant Researching Groat, Grant, Heddle ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Middleton <jackiemiddleton@home.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] document advice > I've been pretty successful ordering exact certificates from the Scottish > Registrar General. > > The next document that I'd like to get - a birth certificate - I have all > the info (parents, place, year) but the *exact* day. > I was hoping that someone on the list might know if I could still order this > certificate. In the papers that I have from their website, > it sounds like they would search their records for a time frame of a year, > but I'd like to know if anyone on this list has requested > a certificate with this one piece of info missing. > > Jackie

I've been pretty successful ordering exact certificates from the Scottish Registrar General. The next document that I'd like to get - a birth certificate - I have all the info (parents, place, year) but the *exact* day. I was hoping that someone on the list might know if I could still order this certificate. In the papers that I have from their website, it sounds like they would search their records for a time frame of a year, but I'd like to know if anyone on this list has requested a certificate with this one piece of info missing. Jackie

>Is there any one that could help me? >Would like to know about Harray Parish and it's loctation. Also would like >to >see pictures of it. > >>>Re : Harray:The parish was in the middle of West Mainland. Scots origins site says Parish Name only good till 1971. I have a book called "The Orkney Story" which has a map still showing a place called Harray in the very middle of West Mainland. I could not get the "multimap" site ( uk.multimap.com) to give me Harray, but it does show Birsay, (north of the Harray Parish) For photos of the area, look at www.galaha.demon.co.uk/index.html#E He advertises that he sells slides of specific spots! I think one of my Cutt relatives might have married a Margaret Flett. They were probably neighbors, anyway. Many of my grandmother's sisters and one brother were born while the family lived in the Harray parrish between 1870 and 1882. sue hamilton ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Thanks every one for the info on Harrah Parish. Linda Matherly Cahill

Jill, I am just working on the Flett side of my family that were from the Orkney Islands. It could be that yours Fletts and mine are related. We can kept in touch and see if the names fit together. Thank you for your Reply. Linda Matherly Cahill

David Thanks for the info. I do have #6 & #7 Landranger maps for Orkney but all the places in Burray that I am looking for aren't on the map. They show several streets but without any names. I was just hoping there might be just a map of Burray. I have asked my local bookstore before and they can't get one. Janine -----Original Message----- From: David Armstrong [SMTP:davidrli@iinet.net.au] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:32 AM To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Burray map G'day Janine, There are no "streets" on Burray. The island was only connected to the Mainland and South Ronaldshay during the Second World War by the construction of Churchill Barriers. These were built to keep U-boats out of Scapa Flow after the torpedoing of H.M.S. Royal Oak. A road, the A961 was constructed on the top of the barriers. The other roads on the island are just farm access roads that have been up-graded. A half-way decent book shop should be able order in copies of the "Landranger" 1 in 50,000 series maps for you, if you haven't got a local specialist map shop. They are produced by the Ordnance Survey Department, in Southampton (they've probably got a web-site by now). Burray is on number 7 in series; the rest of Orkney is covered by Nos. 5 & 6. These maps are extremely useful as they show the major farm names, and numerous historical sites. As a substitute you can see a map of Burray at http://uk.multimap.com/map/places.cgi In Great Britain, many of the roads do not have formal names, and are referred to by the name of the place to which they lead. Thus a long road can have different "names" depending where you are on that road and in which direction you're heading. Cheers David Perth, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Janine McIntyre <janine@muskoka.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:14 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] Burray map > Could someone tell me where I could get a map of just Burray which will show the street names? > Janine > > >

Jackie It is on the main road from Stromness to Kirkwall, a little closer to Stromness, where the Rings of Brodgar are located (two lakes with a narron stip between them). What name are you searching there? Message text written by INTERNET:ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:09:48 -0400 From: Jackie Middleton-Promo-2671 <jackiem@citytv.com> Subject: [ORKNEY] wrong name????? Hello everyone!! I was searching through some census records at the FHC and I came across a name for the birthplace of my Great Great Grandfather. It looked like it was "Stenness"...is there such a place? Jackie ______________________________< Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com Islay McNABB, MORRISON Lanark SMELLIE, WICKETSHAW, SELKRIG Dumfries MURRAY, TAKET, HENDERSON, GILLESPIE Renfrew MURRAY, CALDWELL, BAIRD Dumbarton MORRISON Glasgow STIRRAT, SMELLIE, MORRISON Caithness MILLER, BAIN Orkney SMELLIE, SPENCE, TRAILL Suffolk THOMPSON, AGGUS, BRIGHTWELL Yorkshire HARRISON, POTCHIT, MAINPRICE Staffordshire HARRISON, GRIFFIN, STANLEY London (Highgate/Hampstead) HARRISON, FISHER Tyrone CALDWELL, GRAHAM Swaziland MILLER Australia, Vic MORRISON, HAMM Australia, Tas SMELLIE Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.