Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most gratefully received. Thanks Sarah

Hello Everyone, My name is Pelenaka. I live in the Kings County, California area. I am going to the Cemeterys on 11/10/99 around 12pm. The cemeterys that I will be visiting are the 2 in Tulare and the 1 in Visalia. There is also 1 in Hanford and 1 in Lemoore that I could visit. If there is a Grave site that someone would like me to write down the information that is on it please feel free to ask me. What I would need to know is: Exact name of person that I am looking for any birth and/or death dates for that person and maybe the names of family members that might have been buried there too. I noticed the last time I was there that some grave sites didn't have Headstones so information on them might be hard. Also on some it just says babies and dates but no names. So keep that in mind when I come back with the info , If I tell you I couldn't find it. I head to Tulare about once a month so If you miss my trip this afternoon don't fret, just send me the info and I will look at the grave site the next time I head out that way. If it is in the Hanford, Lemoore grave sites that you want, there is a chance I can get that anytime. The Recorders Office out here in Hanford wants $12.00 for any copy of Birth Certificates and $8.00 for Death Certificates. The records only go back as far as 1897 I think that is what they said. And Births weren't always reported ,so IF I can't get a copy that doesn't mean that they wern't born out here, That just means that it was never reported. If I find the information at the Recorders office , I will tell you what the index says ( Like father and mothers name and name of child and childs birthdate) , But if you want a copy then you will have to send me the money for me to get it. at to which at that time I will tell you where to send it. Well I hope this helps anyone and hope to be hearing from you all sometime. Pelenaka ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

I see that there are several other Thomson researchers around and wanted to let you know that there is a new list for that names at Rootsweb. To subscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/t/index.html Pam -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor One Name Study: Todrick (& variant spellings) mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

Good Day, Searching for a VALETINE CREELMAN born dec, 8th 1881 SCOTLAND?? On the d/cert his parents are VALENTINE CREELMAN & BETSON MOORE both from scotland. In the 1881 census i have found what i believe to be his parents, as follows.... dwelling: guardihouse / census place: stromness, orkney all born in stromness..... VALENTINE CREELMAN, M 31 M BETSEY (BETSON) CREELMAN M 26 F PETER M CREELMAN 5 m M MARY M CREELMAN 2 F This is the only creelman family i can find!! Would there be SKL who could help me conect VALENTINE to the above family? all help would be much appreciated!!!!!!!! cheers from vancouver, canada michaeleyoung@home.com

Hi , I have recently had trouble with AOL and had to delete the ugrade. I lost a lot of information that I had not downloaded. If there is someone out there awaiting some info. please email me again. My interests are PEACE, JOHNSTON and MOAR families in the Orkney area and MURRAY and MADDEN from the Edinburgh and Dundee area. Thanks Catherine zrealmuto@aol.com

Sighthill [note the spelling] Cemetery is in Glasgow Message text written by INTERNET:ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:39:50 -0500 From: Meg Greenwood <finn@ionet.net> Subject: [ORKNEY] Location of Sightbill Cemetery please My GGfather was William HALCROW. He was born in Orphir in 1856. His headstone says : In Loving Memory of my Dear Husband, WILLIAM HALCROW who died 10th May, 1911. Aged 54 years. Interred in Sightbill Cemetery. 111 Petershill Road. Isabel Halcrow. Is Sightbill Cemetery near Orphir ? Family rumor says it was in Glasgow. We never knew he traveled there, but it is possible. Suggestions welcomed - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma < finn@ionet.net > < Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com Islay McNABB, MORRISON Lanark SMELLIE, WICKETSHAW, SELKRIG Dumfries MURRAY, TAKET, HENDERSON, GILLESPIE Renfrew MURRAY, CALDWELL, BAIRD Dumbarton MORRISON Glasgow STIRRAT, SMELLIE, MORRISON Caithness MILLER, BAIN Orkney SMELLIE, SPENCE, TRAILL Suffolk THOMPSON, AGGUS, BRIGHTWELL Yorkshire HARRISON, POTCHIT, MAINPRICE Staffordshire HARRISON, GRIFFIN, STANLEY London (Highgate/Hampstead) HARRISON, FISHER Tyrone CALDWELL, GRAHAM Swaziland MILLER Australia, Vic MORRISON, HAMM Australia, Tas SMELLIE Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

This isn't 'my' James. Mine married a Rebecca Walls Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Phil Linklater [mailto:pelinky@bigfoot.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:16 AM To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Ship Catain James Mainland Yes, I have some information., all yet to be verified! I believe there were two brothers, James RENDALL c about 5 Mar 1837, and John Yorston RENDALL c about 16 Aug 1840. However the parents were James MAINLAND & Ann RENDALL. They were married at Evie & Rendall 14 June 1833. Regards Phil Linklater ----- Original Message ----- From: <Djrendall@aol.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 24 October 1999 12:39 Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Ship Catain James Mainland > Do you have information on Ann Rendall's siblings? My great grandfather, > James Yorston Rendall, was born at Evie and Rendall in the 1850's to William > Rendall and Ann Irving. Could there be a connection? >

Hi, I've just taken on a mailing list and GenConnect boards at Rootsweb for my maiden name, FAIRWEATHER. I thought I'd ask everyone who's on my regular mailing lists to let me know of *any* Fairweathers that you may have in your databases. I'm trying to gather all information and keep it to help others trace their families. An off list answer would be best unless the connection applies to the area that the list deals with. Thanks! Pam -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor One Name Study: Todrick (& variant spellings) mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

I could sure use some help...I would like some help..... I really need some HELP!!! Dear listers, My name is Mel Rich, I am researching my families history. My Great-grandfather was from the Isle of Hoy. His name was Charles Rich. He, as a young man, worked aboard a whaling vessel. When he got a little older, he went to work aboard a frieghter vessel, sailing out of Port Elizabeth, South Africa to ports in China. While aboard that frieghter vessel, he and two of his shipmates were converted to Mormonism and immigrated to the U.S.A., to Salt Lake City, Utah. I would certainly appreciate getting a little information on three ships: 1. The name(s) of the whaling vessel on which he worked and by whom it was owned and who was the captain? 2. The name of the frieghter vessel , who owned it, and who was the captain? 3. The name of the ship on which he moved to America, who owned it and who was the captain? I have been able to trace my forefathers back to Charles Rich's grandfather, his name was Hugh Rich. Hugh was born in about 1759 at Rackwick, on Hoy. I do have some information showing that Hugh's father's name was Charles, however, I do suspect the reliability of that information. My ancestors first arrived in the Orkney Islands on 10 December, 1679 while being held as Covenanter prisoners aboard the ship the "Crown". They escaped when the ship smashed into the rocks, there at Deerness. Only very few of the prisoners aboard that ship did escape drowning (about 50), and many of these were recaptured and still others were able to sneak board a freighter bound fo Holland. I wouldn't imagine that there were no more than ten of the Covenanters who remained on the Orkney Islands. And, of course, As I have previously stated, my ancestors were among those who elected to remain. Now then, getting back to the reason for this inquirery; I know that my ancestors arrived in the Orkney Islands in 1679. I know that my ancestor was Hugh Rich, born in about 1759. What I don't know is about those 80 years in between. That's about three or four generations of missing family. Would you please help me? All of the help that I can get is truly appreciated. Thank you so much. I remain, Respectfully Mel Rich E-mail: MRich10000@AOL.com

Meg Greenwood wrote: > > My GGfather was William HALCROW. He was born in Orphir in 1856. His > headstone says : > > In Loving Memory of my Dear Husband, WILLIAM HALCROW who died 10th May, > 1911. Aged 54 years. Interred in Sightbill Cemetery. 111 Petershill > Road. Isabel Halcrow. > > I am asking if this refers to the possible fact he is not buried at the > same location as this headstone. I do not know the location of the > headstone,in fact, I am not even sure this is really what the real > marker says - this is a copy of what looks like a 3" x 4" card with > decorative scripts included in the research done by an Orkney researcher > in 1985. The above words are listed on it, the 'back' reveals a > touching poem about a light being gone and a vacancy left in the home > because of his passing. > > Was this a Funeral Card ? Our family always thought that this 3" x 4" > black and white copy with a small one-eighth inch black border was the > image of the headstone or grave marker. Isabel HALCROW was his wife, > maiden surname WILSON from Stromness. Is Sightbill Cemetery near Orphir > ? Family rumor says it was in Glasgow. We never knew he traveled > there, but it is possible. > > Suggestions welcomed - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma < finn@ionet.net > Hello Meg, There is a Sighthill Cemetery in Edinburgh in the district of Sighthill at the extreme west end of town and also one at Piershill which is on the way to Portobello. Perhaps they changed the name of the street. They often did this when there was a duplication of street names. This happened in the district where I was brought up, in Edinburgh. Bonaly Road was changed to Harrison Gardens because there was another Bonaly Road at Colinton. Some of the Gunns moved to Edinburgh as there was lots of work for Stonemasons etc. I guess thats why I was born in Auld Reekie. Elizabeth

Dear Meg, Try Edinburgh - Sighthill and/or Piershill. Caroline Velzian Donaghy ----- Original Message ----- From: Meg Greenwood <finn@ionet.net> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 23:39 Subject: [ORKNEY] Location of Sightbill Cemetery please > My GGfather was William HALCROW. He was born in Orphir in 1856. His > headstone says : > > In Loving Memory of my Dear Husband, WILLIAM HALCROW who died 10th May, > 1911. Aged 54 years. Interred in Sightbill Cemetery. 111 Petershill > Road. Isabel Halcrow. > > I am asking if this refers to the possible fact he is not buried at the > same location as this headstone. I do not know the location of the > headstone,in fact, I am not even sure this is really what the real > marker says - this is a copy of what looks like a 3" x 4" card with > decorative scripts included in the research done by an Orkney researcher > in 1985. The above words are listed on it, the 'back' reveals a > touching poem about a light being gone and a vacancy left in the home > because of his passing. > > Was this a Funeral Card ? Our family always thought that this 3" x 4" > black and white copy with a small one-eighth inch black border was the > image of the headstone or grave marker. Isabel HALCROW was his wife, > maiden surname WILSON from Stromness. Is Sightbill Cemetery near Orphir > ? Family rumor says it was in Glasgow. We never knew he traveled > there, but it is possible. > > Suggestions welcomed - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma < finn@ionet.net > > >

Hi Alan, If you go to this page, http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/europe/index.html#scotland you should be able to just click on the list to subscribe: SCT-CAITHNESS-L -- A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the county of Caithness, Scotland. SCT-CAITHNESS-D -- digest mode Pam Alan wrote: > > Can you provide the exact name of this mailing list?? > > Thanks, > > Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Thomson <pamthom@intergate.bc.ca> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:45 PM > Subject: [ORKNEY] Caithness > > >I just wanted to let people know that there is a new mailing list at > >Rootsweb for Caithness. > >Pam > > -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor One Name Study: Todrick (& variant spellings) mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

I just wanted to let people know that there is a new mailing list at Rootsweb for Caithness. Pam

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Hi Kay, I am doing research on the Flett's of Orkney and the mainland. Can you enlighten me as to where or what "Fletts, S Ronaldsay" is? Regards John Flett Kay Liney wrote: > In the 1881 census John Budge is a farmer at Fletts, S Ronaldsay, his > son Robert Budge and his wife (Jessie Tait) and family are living with > him. Robert and Jessie married S Ronaldsay in 1874. Their dtr Elizabeth > married David Kemp in Shapinsay in 1905. David Kemp was the son of James > Kemp and Mary Walls who married in Eday and Pharay 1874 > Any connections > Kay

Seeking information on a Catherine Douglas, Douglass, Dougall, believed born Caithness area about 1836. She married John McLeod, (shepherd), born about 1835, and they emigrated to New Zealand in 1859. Would appreciate any help, pointing in the right direction, etc. Thanks, Alan McGuiness

I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct Rootsweb newsgroup, so if not, please advise. I'm looking for a John McLeod, born around 1835, who migrated to Dunedin, New Zealand, as an assisted passenger. He arrived in May 1859, as a passenger on the "Cresswell", along with his wife, Catherine (Douglass, Douglass,Dougall), McLeod, born about 1836. Don't have any information about where exactly either of them came from, or the date of their marriage. Any help would be appreciated. Alan McGuiness

In the 1881 census John Budge is a farmer at Fletts, S Ronaldsay, his son Robert Budge and his wife (Jessie Tait) and family are living with him. Robert and Jessie married S Ronaldsay in 1874. Their dtr Elizabeth married David Kemp in Shapinsay in 1905. David Kemp was the son of James Kemp and Mary Walls who married in Eday and Pharay 1874 Any connections Kay

My GGfather was William HALCROW. He was born in Orphir in 1856. His headstone says : In Loving Memory of my Dear Husband, WILLIAM HALCROW who died 10th May, 1911. Aged 54 years. Interred in Sightbill Cemetery. 111 Petershill Road. Isabel Halcrow. I am asking if this refers to the possible fact he is not buried at the same location as this headstone. I do not know the location of the headstone,in fact, I am not even sure this is really what the real marker says - this is a copy of what looks like a 3" x 4" card with decorative scripts included in the research done by an Orkney researcher in 1985. The above words are listed on it, the 'back' reveals a touching poem about a light being gone and a vacancy left in the home because of his passing. Was this a Funeral Card ? Our family always thought that this 3" x 4" black and white copy with a small one-eighth inch black border was the image of the headstone or grave marker. Isabel HALCROW was his wife, maiden surname WILSON from Stromness. Is Sightbill Cemetery near Orphir ? Family rumor says it was in Glasgow. We never knew he traveled there, but it is possible. Suggestions welcomed - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma < finn@ionet.net >

To David Armstrong, We notice in your surname interest list you mention Heddle, we have Heddles in our family tree. John Heddle his wife Margaret Nee Irvine & their four children Jane Brown, John, James & Margaret. They arrived in 1851 in Adelaide, any possible connection? Anne Clark.