G'day List My server has been down for the last couple of days, so if anyone wrote to me in that time, or if there has been any SHEARER related postings, please would the sender pass them on to me again. Sorry to bother the list with this Bye Peter

Hello All, I also am researching the Groat line, though a little stuck right now. I have a Malcom Groat that emmigrated from the Orkneys in 1826 and settled in Bothwell, Orford township, Kent County (I believe), Canada. He became a Grant at some point during this emmigration, for unknown reasons. He was born in 1826. This is per the "Illustrated Hist. Atlas of the Counties of Essex and Kent, 1881, page 108" This was the first piece of hard evidence I have found on old Malcom. Can't seem to get anything on him prior to the voyage. I would be very interested in comparing notes with anyone else who is tracking this line. I have some stuff posted at www.grantgg.com/~grantda . TIA dan grant ----- Original Message ----- From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in > both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study > really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail is > temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I > hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I have > branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts of > the UK. > > I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a > GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of > a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose > surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to > try us !! :-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> > To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > > > Hi Catriona, > > > > I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families > from > > Longhope and around what period of time. > > > > Jan > > Canberra, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > > > > > >Sarah > > > > > >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, > > >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of > farm > > >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my > > >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is > > >welcome to what I have. > > > > > >Catriona > > > > > >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, > > >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> > > >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM > > >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > > > > > > > >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had > > >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I > > >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I > > >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all > > >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most > > >gratefully received. > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Sarah > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

Sarah Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of farm that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is welcome to what I have. Catriona (Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most gratefully received. > > Thanks > Sarah > >

Hi Catriona, I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families from Longhope and around what period of time. Jan Canberra, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties >Sarah > >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of farm >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is >welcome to what I have. > >Catriona > >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most >gratefully received. >> >> Thanks >> Sarah >> >> > >

Hello Peter - My Mary Shearer (myggggrandmother)was born in 1799 in Caithness, Orkney I believe. Her parents were George Shearer and Christina Dunnett according to her death certificate, which I have. She died in 1880 in Kirkwall, Orkney. She married Thomas Stickler in 1830 in Kirkwall and they had 3 children: William, Peter and Mary. Mary Shearer Stickler is my gggrandmother. At this time I know little about the Shearers. I have been in touch with a 3rd cousin (descendent of William Stickler) who says that Mary Shearer's parents are actually William Shearer and Christian Dunnett. So far, I don't see any connections, but we'll see. Keep me posted. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Peter Davis <prdavis@dingoblue.net.au> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: November 27, 1999 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] new subscriber >G'day Karen > >Welcome to the list. I also have Shearers in my background. Mary Shearer >[sometimes spelt Sherar] was born in 1806 in Shapinshay in the Orkney's, she >married William Scott in 1827 and then in 1849 they and their nine children >emigrated to Australia. It would be great if you could find a connection >between us. > >Regards > >Peter > >> Hello - I'm a brand new subscriber, and want to introduce myself. I live >in >> Ontario Canada and am researching the following surnames from Orkney: >> HEDDLE, STICKLER, SHEARER, DUNNETT, CRAWFORD, SMITH. I look forward to >> discussing Orkney genealogy with you! Karen Acker > >

G'day Karen Welcome to the list. I also have Shearers in my background. Mary Shearer [sometimes spelt Sherar] was born in 1806 in Shapinshay in the Orkney's, she married William Scott in 1827 and then in 1849 they and their nine children emigrated to Australia. It would be great if you could find a connection between us. Regards Peter > Hello - I'm a brand new subscriber, and want to introduce myself. I live in > Ontario Canada and am researching the following surnames from Orkney: > HEDDLE, STICKLER, SHEARER, DUNNETT, CRAWFORD, SMITH. I look forward to > discussing Orkney genealogy with you! Karen Acker

Welcome aboard Karen Janine -----Original Message----- From: acker [SMTP:acker@ican.net] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 5:29 AM To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ORKNEY] new subscriber Hello - I'm a brand new subscriber, and want to introduce myself. I live in Ontario Canada and am researching the following surnames from Orkney: HEDDLE, STICKLER, SHEARER, DUNNETT, CRAWFORD, SMITH. I look forward to discussing Orkney genealogy with you! Karen Acker

Karen Acker - Hi, I have been a member of this Orkney bunch for about a year now. I am hopeful about the SHEARER name in your past - there was a marriage into my HALCRO family by a Peter SHEARER. Peter married Jessie HALCRO who was born in Orphir, Orkney on Feb 20, 1864. Peter was supposedly a childhood sweetheart of hers. They married and moved to America. They had 3 children - Harry, Archie and Mabel. If you have any connections to these SHEARERs, I would just love to know more - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma

Hello - I'm a brand new subscriber, and want to introduce myself. I live in Ontario Canada and am researching the following surnames from Orkney: HEDDLE, STICKLER, SHEARER, DUNNETT, CRAWFORD, SMITH. I look forward to discussing Orkney genealogy with you! Karen Acker

In my journey of searching for my Dickson ancestors, it seems that there aren't very many! Some Orkney surnames keep cropping up, but Dickson doesn't. I've seen on some websites the surname Dick...what are the chances that Dickson was once just Dick? Jackie

In a message dated 11/25/99 7:06:59 PM, jackiemiddleton@home.com writes: << In my journey of searching for my Dickson ancestors, it seems that there aren't very many! Some Orkney surnames keep cropping up, but Dickson doesn't. I've seen on some websites the surname Dick...what are the chances that Dickson was once just Dick? Jackie >> There are a few Dicksons in Orkney but a lot more are on east coast of Caithness, Sutherland and Inverness. Jim Corse.

David, sorry for "butting in", I saw that you were from Perth, Australia - presumably researching your Orkney ancestors. I am also living in Perth - South Perth actually and am researching my Hourie/Howrie mob. How do you find information over here - do you do most of your digging on the net? Any information gratefully accepted! Thanks Cheers Sarah

Just have to add my little bit of information to this good advice about ordering the microfilm of the Parish Registers - if you pay for the microfilm 3 times, it will STAY permanently at the FHCenter and will not be sent back to its original site. This is at least the policy in Oklahoma, I assume the other continental states, also. Not sure about Alaska and Hawaii. Fiche stay, films return unless rented 3 times. Please post for me if this is not the case elswhere. I tend to keep the films with geographical areas covered - like censuses. There is a good chance of finding another lead on the same film, and having to order it all over again anyway. Knowing the immediate neighbor's names is sometimes of worth, as they just might be relatives - not uncommon in rural settings. - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma, USA

If you go to your local Mormon family history library in Vancouver, you'll be able to order a copy of the South Ronaldsay Parish Registers on micro-film. You'll be able to read the entire film for yourself. The same goes for census records. The cost will only be a few dollars. This is much, much cheaper than engaging a Record Agent to read the very same film. Also, a record agent will miss items that are obvious to you. If you're really keen, then you can buy a copy of the film from Edinburgh for £40. Cheers David Perth, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: michael esson young <michaeleyoung@home.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:59 AM Subject: [ORKNEY] AGENTS > Could someone please pass on the name of a REPUTABLE AGENT for the area > of S/Ronadshay & Burray?........ > > I do use The New Register House in Edenbourgh, but some of my B.M.D. > Certs are prior 1853 and they can"t help, > Maybe You Can!!!! > > -- > cheers from vancouver, canada > michaeleyoung@home.com > > >

Does anyone on the list have a connection to this family? I am particularly interested in the son, Andrew (#9). You searched for: British Isles Father: Andrew Mcbeath, Mother: Isabella Baikie International Genealogical Index/British Isles (9 matches) 1. William MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 22 Feb 1843 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 2. Magnus MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 4 Mar 1844 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 3. Charlotte MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 4 Aug 1845 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 4. David MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 6 Aug 1847 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 5. Elizabeth MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 31 Dec 1848 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 6. Margaret MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 23 Feb 1851 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 7. Mary MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 6 Jan 1853 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 8. Isabella MACBEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 18 Jun 1855 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland 9. Andrew MC BEATH - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 14 Apr 1859 Holm And Paplay, Orkney, Scotland -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor Researching Fairweather & Todrick mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

Could someone please pass on the name of a REPUTABLE AGENT for the area of S/Ronadshay & Burray?........ I do use The New Register House in Edenbourgh, but some of my B.M.D. Certs are prior 1853 and they can"t help, Maybe You Can!!!! -- cheers from vancouver, canada michaeleyoung@home.com

Hi! I spotted this inscription in a book and thought that I would pass it along in case it was of interest to someone. from: McCrea's Cemetery, Morris Twp., Huron County, Ontario, Canada; Con. 5, lot 2 James Budge 1799 - 1877 his wife Jane Miller 1800 - 1892 their sons: John G. Budge 1821 - 1898 Peter T. Budge 1835 - 1915 and daughter: Jessie Budge, 1841 - 1923 All natives of ORKNEY, SCOTLAND Other possible connections: Walter E. Nichol died Oct. 18, 1897, ae. 66 yrs, 8 mos his wife Ann Budge died July 28, 1898, ae. 66 yrs, 7 mos. Minnie J. Budge died Mar. 11, 1885 or 6, ae. 22 yrs.

A book of postcards belonging to John Harcus who died en route to Aust, 1928, bur Capetown, South Africa included several referring to Mr and Mrs Sinclair and Mary Sinclair, presumably relatives of John living at 16 Shore St., Kirkwall, Orkney around 1911, 1912 and 1914. Any information about Sinclair and their relationship to John appreciated. Alice.

I am researching John Harcus,b c1867,family legend says in Orkney Islands, mother Janet Harcus, and his wife, Janet Thompson, 1894, Edinburgh. John and Janet had two children - Mary, mar Australian soldier, J Redden, emigrated to Aust; Jock, also emigrated to Aust. John died en route to Aust, bur Capetown, South Africa, 1928. Any information would be appreciated. I am enquiring on behalf of my aunt, dau of Mary Redden nee Harcus, who would like to contact relatives especially any of Janet Thompson. Thank you, Alice.

I am trying to find the death date of Molly NICOLSON. She married James INKSTER 21 Jan 1796 in Houton, Orphir, Orkney. I believe they had a son, James INKSTER, b 14 Aug 1796. The father, James INKSTER, had immigrated to Canada (with HBC) and had a son with a native woman by 1807. Had Molly died? Did he just leave her behind? Or are they not the same James INKSTER. Thanks for any clues. Carol Wright/AB - ---------------------------------------------------------- March West Mail - Powered by BigMailBox.com - http://www.bigmailbox.com