Hi! Who are you Catherine? you have to have a last name. H.Alex Cromarty -----Original Message----- From: Zrealmuto@aol.com <Zrealmuto@aol.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 4:44 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] Test >Hi there, > >I have not received any e-mail today. This a test. > >catherine > >

Hello.....you have just received e-mail....Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.....from Roberta Callaway.....Arizona, U.S.A. -----Original Message----- From: Zrealmuto@aol.com <Zrealmuto@aol.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 4:42 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] Test >Hi there, > >I have not received any e-mail today. This a test. > >catherine >

Thanks Roberta, I enjoyed receiving your email - made me lol. Catherine

Me either. Mel

Hi there, I have not received any e-mail today. This a test. catherine

Transcripts of the Church records for India are available on micro-film through your local Family History Library. The records are the equivalent to Bishop's Transcripts. They are sorted by the Presidency in which the event occurred. There were three Presidencies deriving from the East India Company rule of India. They were Madras, Bombay and the largest being Bengal. The records start in the 17th century and finish around Indian independence in the 1940s. There are calenders (ie quasi indexes) available on micro-film as well. Using these it should not be too difficult to locate a copy of your Henry Worke's baptism in Calcutta. Cheers David, Perth, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce <papabruce@home.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:11 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] Surname Worke > I now know for certain my Ancestors came from Orkney Islands. However my Grandfather was born in Calcutta India circa 1878. Died May 1939. He was educated in the Channel Islands and came to Canada circa 1908 His name was Henry Gladstone Worke and he married Margaret LindsayTurnbull who originally lived in the Scottish Lowlands. I have more specifics. > >

I now know for certain my Ancestors came from Orkney Islands. However my Grandfather was born in Calcutta India circa 1878. Died May 1939. He was educated in the Channel Islands and came to Canada circa 1908 His name was Henry Gladstone Worke and he married Margaret LindsayTurnbull who originally lived in the Scottish Lowlands. I have more specifics.

In a message dated 12/1/99 7:25:59 PM, marscot@ellensburg.com writes: <<I just discovered this site. One of my ancestors, William Gunn, I believe, was born in Thurso in 1763.>> I was wondering if your William may have been related to my Margaret GUNN (1820-1858). She moved to Michigan and married David IRWIN. Randy

To anyone interested in these names I am looking for information on my great grandmother Jessie Abisinia Stott who was born to Abbey Stott (fisherman) and Elizabeth Guthrie. I don't have any info on Abbey Stott however Eliz's mother was a Jessie Guthrie born 1827 in Westray (info from 1881 census). As far as I can tell Jessie Guthrie was the same person as a Jesse Harcus/Hercus b. 1827 Westray to a William and Janet Skae. I think she was living at 51 Lanshaill in 1851 as a servent to George (farmer) and Jean Harcus. She married a George Guthrie around 1850 in Kirkwall. Any info on any of these links would be greatly appreciated Jason Jowitt Adelaide jowpjm@senet.com.au

I just discovered this site. One of my ancestors, William Gunn, I believe, was born in Thurso in 1763. He eventually became a weaver and married Isabella Robbie and had one of his four children baptized in Thurso in 1790 with a Swanson and a McLeod as witnesses. Was it a common practice for relatives to be used as witnesses for christenings or was there some other pattern? I also understand that a group of weavers left the area and moved to the Perth area to find employment. Does anyone have information on this or a resource where I can find that information. Thanks. Margie P.S. We visited Westford, Massachusetts, this past fall. This was where a Sir James Gunn died in the year 1398 when he was on an expedition with Prince Henry Sinclair.

Good morning Meg - I noted you appology and checked out the site. Very good. Still looking for William Fleet in Stromness. Have you found any additional information? Walter Fleet in Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: Meg Greenwood <finn@ionet.net> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:09 AM Subject: [ORKNEY] New ARCHIVE search facility-amendment > In my immediate past posting about the new Archive Search faciliy, I > said it searched all the Rootsweb lists, it does NOT. It searches the > GENUKI Lists only > > Go To: > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/search.html > > Meg Greenwood - apologies !

In my immediate past posting about the new Archive Search faciliy, I said it searched all the Rootsweb lists, it does NOT. It searches the GENUKI Lists only Go To: http://www.genuki.org.uk/search.html Meg Greenwood - apologies !

Have you seen this new function on Rootsweb ??? Now the Archive searches you conduct can search ALL Lists for the name you seek. Just because we subscribe to the Orkney List, doesn't mean all the OTHER folks out there never mention Orkney places or surnames. This could be just the thing for someone who lost a few days of messages - open the newest postings for your surname. Or search the same old ORKNEY List archives and filter out the other lists. Evidently this site is workable now, but not in its final format. Test drive this facility at : http://www.genuki.org.uk/search.html It's a winner ! - Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma, USA

Error in my original message which you obviously all understood, Malcolm Groat changed to Grant when he emmigrated. My typos don;t help either. Catriona ----- Original Message ----- From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in > both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study > really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail is > temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I > hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I have > branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts of > the UK. > > I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a > GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of > a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose > surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to > try us !! :-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> > To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > > > Hi Catriona, > > > > I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families > from > > Longhope and around what period of time. > > > > Jan > > Canberra, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > > > > > >Sarah > > > > > >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, > > >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of > farm > > >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my > > >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is > > >welcome to what I have. > > > > > >Catriona > > > > > >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, > > >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> > > >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM > > >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > > > > > > > >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had > > >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I > > >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I > > >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all > > >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most > > >gratefully received. > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Sarah > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yes, we have a link here - Alexander Flett Groat is our direct ancestor (of my husband and children more correctly I suppose!). I have Ellen Nicolson listed as Helen Nicolson - perhaps you can help clarify that one. Yes I knew Jackie Groat who was great for the Family History, he was a great loss when he died last year. I am also in touch with others. Email me off-list with more details please. groat@btinternet.com I look forward to hearing from you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > Hi Catriona, > > These are the instances of Groat that I have occurring in my family tree. > If you have any connection I will send further details. > > 4. Alan Smith, b. 1937 > + Sheila Groat, m. 1965 > 5. Michael Smith, b. 1966 > 5. Ila Smith, b. 1968 > + Arthur Corse, m. 16.8.1996 > 5. Rodney Smith, b. 1970 > > > 2. Ellen Nicolson, b. 1862, d. 20.5.1911 > + m. Alexander F Groat c. 16.5.1845 (son of Malcolm Groat and Ann > Cromarty)_(2nd wife) > > Descendants from this line are Jackie, Jimmy and Maurice Groat and Betty > Grieve all living on Orkney still except for one of the boys who died in > 1998. Can't find my info at the moment. My main line is Smith and > Nicolson. Let me know if this fits in. > > Regards, > Jan, Canberra, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, 30 November 1999 6:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > > >Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in > >both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study > >really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail > is > >temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I > >hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I > have > >branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts > of > >the UK. > > > >I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a > >GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of > >a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose > >surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to > >try us !! :-) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> > >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM > >Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > > > > >> Hi Catriona, > >> > >> I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families > >from > >> Longhope and around what period of time. > >> > >> Jan > >> Canberra, Australia > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > >> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > >> > >> > >> >Sarah > >> > > >> >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on > Hourie, > >> >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of > >farm > >> >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my > >> >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is > >> >welcome to what I have. > >> > > >> >Catriona > >> > > >> >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, > >> >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) > >> > > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> > >> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM > >> >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had > >> >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I > >> >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I > >> >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to > all > >> >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most > >> >gratefully received. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks > >> >> Sarah > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >

Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail is temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I have branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts of the UK. I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to try us !! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > Hi Catriona, > > I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families from > Longhope and around what period of time. > > Jan > Canberra, Australia > -----Original Message----- > From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> > To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM > Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > > >Sarah > > > >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, > >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of farm > >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my > >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is > >welcome to what I have. > > > >Catriona > > > >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, > >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> > >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM > >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties > > > > > >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had > >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I > >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I > >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all > >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most > >gratefully received. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Sarah > >> > >> > > > > > >

Hi, fellow listers, I'm looking for any information on the following BUDGE family: Benjamin BUDGE b 1791 married Catherine HENDERSON @ Feb 13, 1813 Donald ......C. Dec of 1813 John .........C 20 Aug 1816 David ........C: 12 Oct 1825 Christian....B. 1828 Henrietta ...C: 3 Nov 1830 Specifically, I am interested in John BUDGE who married Elizabeth GEAR (sp?). John (and perhaps his whole family...I know for sure his sister, Christiana) migrated to New Brunswick app. 1839. Christiana married Bernanrd Flanagan in NB, though don't know the year. Any help would be soooo appreciated. John is my ggrandfather. Even though his wife Elizabeth died in 1856, John went on to have my Grandmother, Christina Henderson BUDGE, in 1867. Her mother is listed as Elizabeth GREER, but I don't think John and this Elizabeth were married. John had custody, and when he died in 1874, I believe his daughter went to live with the Flanagins, as she is listed with them on the 1881 census. Thanks for any and all information, hints, etc. Jane in Michigan, USA

Forgot to say, my Grants are no relation whatsoever. That is my husbands line and they come from Grantown, Invernesshire. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 30 November 1999 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME >Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in >both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study >really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail is >temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I >hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I have >branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts of >the UK. > >I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a >GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of >a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose >surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to >try us !! :-) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM >Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > >> Hi Catriona, >> >> I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families >from >> Longhope and around what period of time. >> >> Jan >> Canberra, Australia >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> >> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties >> >> >> >Sarah >> > >> >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, >> >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of >farm >> >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my >> >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is >> >welcome to what I have. >> > >> >Catriona >> > >> >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, >> >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> >> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM >> >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties >> > >> > >> >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had >> >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I >> >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I >> >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all >> >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most >> >gratefully received. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Sarah >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

Hi Catriona, These are the instances of Groat that I have occurring in my family tree. If you have any connection I will send further details. 4. Alan Smith, b. 1937 + Sheila Groat, m. 1965 5. Michael Smith, b. 1966 5. Ila Smith, b. 1968 + Arthur Corse, m. 16.8.1996 5. Rodney Smith, b. 1970 2. Ellen Nicolson, b. 1862, d. 20.5.1911 + m. Alexander F Groat c. 16.5.1845 (son of Malcolm Groat and Ann Cromarty)_(2nd wife) Descendants from this line are Jackie, Jimmy and Maurice Groat and Betty Grieve all living on Orkney still except for one of the boys who died in 1998. Can't find my info at the moment. My main line is Smith and Nicolson. Let me know if this fits in. Regards, Jan, Canberra, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 30 November 1999 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME >Frankly I suppose the reply should be all Groats no matter what dates in >both Orkney and Caithness. My research is turning into a One Name study >really. My own links are proven in Longhope back to 1761 where the trail is >temporarily cold - until I get into the Kirkwall archives at Christmas I >hope. The offending ancestor being Magnus Groat m. Hellen Stephen ! I have >branches all over the place including New Zealand, Canada and other parts of >the UK. > >I am curious ! Are you one of the Groats who became a Grant? I found a >GEDCOM whilst browsing a genealogy site the other day giving the details of >a whole branch descended from a Malcolm Groat of South Ronaldsay whose >surname changed to Groat when he emmigrated.... these things are sent to >try us !! :-) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:51 AM >Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] GROAT SURNAME > > >> Hi Catriona, >> >> I was wondering which Groats you are interested and also what families >from >> Longhope and around what period of time. >> >> Jan >> Canberra, Australia >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Groat <groat@btinternet.com> >> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, 29 November 1999 3:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Family Ties >> >> >> >Sarah >> > >> >Contact me off-list if you want copy of the information I have on Hourie, >> >which includes notes and locations of gravestones as well as photos of >farm >> >that Captain Hourie lived at etc. I checked this lot out on one of my >> >regular trips home, on behalf of someone else. You or anyone else is >> >welcome to what I have. >> > >> >Catriona >> > >> >(Interests: Groat; Baikie; Muir; Work; and many more Orkney names, >> >predominantly Rousay, Sanday and Longhope) >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Sarah Finlow-Bates <sunshinelady@ozemail.com.au> >> >To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:12 AM >> >Subject: [ORKNEY] Family Ties >> > >> > >> >> Hi, I have just been added to this list and wondered if anyone had >> >information on the HOWRIE/HOURIE family? My maiden name is HOWRIE and I >> >have been able to trace the family to the Orkneys back to the 1650s - I >> >haven't got anything like a family tree yet though and as I am new to all >> >this (and living in Australia) any snippets of information would be most >> >gratefully received. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Sarah >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

Here are some Groats who fit in with my unofficial one name study (Fairweather) William GROAT b. abt 1730, Dunnet, CAI, Scotland d. bef 1830 & Elspeth FAIRWEATHER b. abt 1730, Scotland d. bef 1830 | James GROAT | b. 1752, Scotland | ch. 19 Mar 1752 | d. bef 1852 | Esther GROAT | b. 1756, Scotland | ch. 26 Apr 1756 | d. bef 1856 | Ingram GROAT | b. 1758, Scotland | ch. 22 Oct 1758 | d. bef 1858 | John GROAT | b. 1760, Scotland | ch. 16 Sep 1760 | d. bef 1860 William GROAT b. abt 1733, Dunnet, CAI, Scotland d. bef 1833 & Margaret FAIRWEATHER b. abt 1733, Scotland d. bef 1833 | William GROAT | b. 1753, Scotland | ch. 14 Oct 1753 | d. bef 1853 And here are some who married South Ronaldsay THOMSONS: 58. CHARLOTTE GROAT/WILLIAM THOMSON M. 26 FEB 1810 WILLIAM 29 OCT 1810 JOHN 8 DEC 1811 59. ELIZABETH/LEZIE GROAT/ROBERT THOMSON M. 6 JUL 1802 ROBRT 5 JUN 1803 MERY 30 JUN 1805 JOHN 28 JUN 1807 JAMES 9 SEP 1810 WILLIAM 12 JUN 1814 60. JANET/JENNET GROAT/ ANDREW THOMSON M. 28 FEB 1789 ANDROU 26 AUG 1790 JAMES 22 DEC 1795 GEORGE 4 MAR 1798 JOHN 3 MAY 1801 BARBRA 22 AUG 1802 JEAN 1 MAR 1804 61.MARGRAT GROAT/ROBT THOMPSON M. 20 FEB 1798 ISABELLA 6 FEB 1800 -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor Researching Fairweather & Todrick mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca