Monte - I have the 1821 Census for Orphir printed out. Since you would be looking for the PARENTS of Margaret SINCLAIR and Christopher FINLAY - I will enclose those families in Orphir that have those names present. Magnus SINCLAIR - Farmer in Gerra age 60-70, his wife Elspet SINCLAIR age 60-70. Their children Peter and Margaret age 30-40, William age 20-30. This listing in interesting since MY OWN family of HALCROs lived in Gerra in the census for 1861, 71 and 81! Peter SINCLAIR Farmer in Langie age 50-60. Janet GRAY his wife age 40-50. Children Jane age 20-30, Margaret and Ann ages 15-20, Mary and Catherine ages 10-15. Janet and Betty ages 5-10. Effy age under 5. Peter SINCLAIR in Diviot Hall age 20-30. His wife Margaret TAYLOR age 30-40. Children Margaret age 10-15, James age 5-10. Janet and Peter aged under 5. William SINCLAIR farmer in Piggar age 60-70. His wife Isabella SPENCE age 30-40. His daughter Margaret age 30-40. Their children Isabella aged 10-15 John and Jane ages 5-10. William SINCLAIR farmer in Dyke-End age 30-40. His wife Betty SMOOT age 30-40, Their children Barbara and Isabella age 5-10, Margaret and William ages under 5. There were NO FINLAYs - Hope this is helpful not confusing <g> Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma, USA

What time period did the birth occur in? My GG-gfather, William Smellie, from St. Andrews, Orkney, was the medical doctor at York Factory from 1845 to 1849. Message text written by INTERNET:ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:52:04 -0700 From: "Sasse" <rednest@gilanet.com> Hello, I'm looking for any Stevenson's. I started out looking for Betsy Stevens, only to find out that her name is really Marguerite Stevenson. The only list where I can find any Stevensons' listed is the Orkney lists. I believe Marguerite Stevenson was born at York Factory, Hudson bay, but her father, John Stevenson may be from Orkney. Her mother's name is shown as Mary Indian. Does anyone know of any John Stevenson, or any Stevensons, from Orkney who migrated to the York Factory area? Thank you, Glenda < Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com Islay McNABB, MORRISON Lanark SMELLIE, WICKETSHAW, SELKRIG Dumfries MURRAY, TAKET, HENDERSON, GILLESPIE Renfrew MURRAY, CALDWELL, BAIRD Dumbarton MORRISON Glasgow STIRRAT, SMELLIE, MORRISON Caithness MILLER, BAIN Orkney SMELLIE, SPENCE, TRAILL Suffolk THOMPSON, AGGUS, BRIGHTWELL Yorkshire HARRISON, POTCHIT, MAINPRICE Staffordshire HARRISON, GRIFFIN, STANLEY London (Highgate/Hampstead) HARRISON, FISHER Tyrone CALDWELL, GRAHAM Swaziland MILLER Australia, Vic MORRISON, HAMM Australia, Tas SMELLIE Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

Since we are reposting Meg wrote > I am most curious to know if any HALCRO(W)s of this line >remain in Orkney. We are led to believe they all left. I find that >hard to understand - ALL of them ? Surely there are some HALCRO(W)s >left from our brood still hanging on there. <g> Meg Greenwood / >Oklahoma, USA Same for me. My gggrandfather was Christopher Finlay. He was one of three children born to Christopher Finlay and Margaret Sinclair. Parrish of Orphir. Birth Date of Christopher Dec 30th 1832. Sisters.. Mary and Margaret.. Just chcking to see if there are any descendants of this family. Monte, Vancouver Island

Anne - Tried to open up the URL with on luck. Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne M. Rendall <anne@rendall.net> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:41 PM Subject: [ORKNEY] note on changing subject lines > > We all need to remember to change the subject lines when posting, this > discussion list is archived and it will be less useful to others in the > future if we leave old subject lines when posting new subjects. > > The archives can be located at: > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > first enter the list name - Orkney-L > > then enter your query - and check the box next to the database 1998 or 1999 > > Anne Rendall > >

In a message dated 12/14/99 2:35:28 PM, finn@ionet.net writes: << I am most curious to know if any HALCRO(W)s of this line remain in Orkney. We are led to believe they all left. I find that hard to understand - ALL of them ? Surely there are some HALCRO(W)s left from our brood still hanging on there. <g> Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma, USA >> There are seven Halcro's listed in the phone book with Orkney addresses. There are between fifty and sixty Halcrow's in the phone book with Shetland addresses. No Halcro's in Shetland, only three Halcrow's in Orkney! Hope this helps answer your question. Jim Corse.

OK, as long as we are listing again - here is my Orphir, Orkney family : Joseph HALCRO (1822-Orphir) married Jessie JOHNSTON (1834-Walls) in Orphir, 1855. They had 10 children : William, John, Thomas, Jessie, Robina, James, Peter, Joseph, Margaret and Mary. All births were from 1856 - 1879. My line is from the eldest son, William (born 1856, Orphir). He had 7 children (born in Orkney) who ended up in Glasgow, Canada and America. The families that intermarried with the HALCROs were : WILSON (Isabella from Stromoness married William in 1879), GROUNDWATER (Margaret married Thomas HALCRO in the late 1880s), SHEARER (Peter married Jessie HALCRO), GUNN (Morrison married Robina HALCRO mid 1880s). The other names we do not know. I am most curious to know if any HALCRO(W)s of this line remain in Orkney. We are led to believe they all left. I find that hard to understand - ALL of them ? Surely there are some HALCRO(W)s left from our brood still hanging on there. <g> Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma, USA

We all need to remember to change the subject lines when posting, this discussion list is archived and it will be less useful to others in the future if we leave old subject lines when posting new subjects. The archives can be located at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl first enter the list name - Orkney-L then enter your query - and check the box next to the database 1998 or 1999 Anne Rendall

At 10:52 PM 12/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, >I'm looking for any Stevenson's. I started out looking for Betsy Stevens, >only to find out that her name is really Marguerite Stevenson. The only >list where I can find any Stevensons' listed is the Orkney lists. I believe >Marguerite Stevenson was born at York Factory, Hudson bay, but her father, >John Stevenson may be from Orkney. Her mother's name is shown as Mary >Indian. > >Does anyone know of any John Stevenson, or any Stevensons, from Orkney who >migrated to the York Factory area? > >Thank you, >Glenda Do you have a rough idea as to the birth date of John Stevenson or the time period in which he would have emigrated? John was a common name. I have some Stevensons in our line and the research of two Stevenson cousins. There were some Stevensons that emigrated to Canada, and some where in my archived email I have a reference to a book on the Stevensons written by some Stevensons in Connecticut - send me an email after the holidays directly to anne@rendall.net and I'll look for this information for you. You should also contact the Hudson Bay Company for information - perhaps your ancestor worked for them - many Orcadians did, if so they will have a record. Anne

----- Original Message ----- From: Anne M. Rendall <anne@rendall.net> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Test > > At 06:50 PM 12/14/99 +1100, you wrote: > >What is happening with the Orkney List? Is no mail coming through or is no > >one interested in Orkney Genealogy? I seem to be swamped with Inverness > >mail and have just noticed no posts from Orkney since the test messages from > >various people questioning what was happening. > > The traffic on the list varies, some times it will be regular, some times > it will slow down, that is to be expected. > > Regards, > > Anne M. Rendall > Listowner Orkney-L

Hi Catherine - Great idea to send out a test every so often. Mine is much simpler. Just looking for two names: William Fleet, b. 1815, Stromness. Would like to find out both parents names? Merry Christmas to all, Walter Fleet in Pennsylvania, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Zrealmuto@aol.com> To: <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Test > Hi Jan, > > I sent out the test this weekend. It would seem that alot of people are > really busy right now which is understandable. But I also think that your > email is a reminder to us all to repost our interests every so often. So here > are mine. > > ALEXANDER JOHNSTON b.abt 1785 Mar. MARGARET MOAR b. abt 1789 > > Children: > JOHN JOHNSTON b. 1815 Upper Grindalay > MARY JOHNSTON b. 1813 Upper Grindalay > ISOBEL JOHNSTON b. 1811 Upper Grindalay > > There is evidence to suggest that Margaret remarried a Caesar Johnstone and > had four more children. I am still investigating that. > > ISOBEL Mar. 1834 to ROBERT SPENCE > > Children: > WILLIAM JOHNSTON SPENCE b. 1836 > ROBERT SPENCE b. 1840 > ANN MOAR SPENCE b. 1838 > > > ANN Mar. 1860 to WILLIAM PEACE - Birsay, Orkney > > Children: > > PETER PEACE b. 1864 Birsay > MARY PEACE b. 1867 Birsay > BARBARA PEACE b. 1870 Edinburgh > WILLIAM PEACE b. 1874 Edinburgh > > Happy Holidays! > > Catherine

At 09:43 AM 12/14/99 -0500, you wrote: > Well, Ms. Rendall, I for one really wish to thank you. Please keep up >the good work. > Thank you, I am a volunteer and the work to keep up the list is very minimal now. The best way to show your appreciation is by becoming a RootsWeb sponsor. RootsWeb is a cooperative of volunteers and is almost entirely supported by voluntary contributions, the vast resources offered through RootsWeb have been compiled on a voluntary basis as well. You can read more about RootsWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/ and http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Sponsorship starts at $24.00 a year (U.S), you can contribute by mail or via a secure webpage. You can also get very low cost web space through RootsWeb. I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season. Anne Rendall Surname interests include: (all in Westray) Rendall, Stevenson, Seater, Reid, Couper/Coupar/Cooper

At 06:50 PM 12/14/99 +1100, you wrote: >What is happening with the Orkney List? Is no mail coming through or is no >one interested in Orkney Genealogy? I seem to be swamped with Inverness >mail and have just noticed no posts from Orkney since the test messages from >various people questioning what was happening. The traffic on the list varies, some times it will be regular, some times it will slow down, that is to be expected. Regards, Anne M. Rendall Listowner Orkney-L

I'll resubmit my surname of interest - ISBISTER. Looking for ancestors of Hugh Isbister (later Ivester) born c. 1755 in Orkney Islands. Came to America c. 1775 as an indentured - on a ship called The Marlborough arriving in Savannah, Georgia. Hugh Isbister Ivester eventually settled in North Carolina.

I'm interested in Kirkness, but never see anything on that name, so I don't post anything. Heather in Canada -----Original Message----- From: Robert Grant <grantos@ozemail.com.au> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Test >What is happening with the Orkney List? Is no mail coming through or is no >one interested in Orkney Genealogy? I seem to be swamped with Inverness >mail and have just noticed no posts from Orkney since the test messages from >various people questioning what was happening. > >Names I am interested in mainly are Smith, Nicolson, Ritch from Hoy. Other >minor lines are Sinclair, Anderson, Craigie, Stout, Mellis, Mowatt, Wallace, >Ross, Groat, Wilson, Thomson, Walls. > >Hoping for lots of mail! > >Jan, Canberra, Australia > >-----Original Message----- >From: Betty Wintersteen <BAWWYN@webtv.net> >To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, 12 December 1999 2:21 PM >Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Test > > >Hi Catherine > >Know the feeling. There were days when webtv wasn't working and I >didn't receive email from several lists. Suddenly you feel all alone, >almost lost. I know I look forward to opening up each email, even if it >doesn't help me. > >Have a very Happy Christmas and New Year. > >Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts >http://bawwyn@webtv.net >-------------------------------------- >As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to >future generations. >-------------------------------------- >Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie >Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Road, >Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, >Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada >------------------------------------------------------ > >http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS > > > >

Hello, I suppose part of the quietness is because of the holidays coming up on us and I agree that we should post the names we are interested in periodically so here are mine: I'm looking for family named Stewart. My grandfather was Charles Thomas Stewart and I think his parents were James Stewart and Jane/Jean Lennie and I think from Stromness. Charles was one of a large number of children - I know there was an Adelaide but she never married and there was a James who had a daughter, Maysie/May who married a Frank Elliott and moved to England. The Sinclair/Drever family is connected with Knockhall Farm in South Ronaldsay and I'm doing pretty well on the Sinclair line but always looking for additional family members. I'm not doing as well with Drever. Outside of Orkney names I'm also looking for family of Finlay Williams, fourth son of Julia MacAskill (McAskill) of Inverness and Peter John Williams (I think from Greenock). So, if any of you know of any of these people I'd love to hear from you. Evelyn Sinclair Williams Hlabse Richmond Heights, Ohio, USA

Dear Ms Rendall, I beleive that it is just about time that you were made aware, by some of your list subscribers, just how truley appreciated, you and the fine service, are. We are a silent group, us list subscribers. I suppose that we just go along not really questioning or even concerned about all of the effort that you must put into the maintainance of this list. The Orkney list is just there, because it's there. Well, Ms. Rendall, I for one really wish to thank you. Please keep up the good work. Respectfully Mel Rich

Hi Jan, I sent out the test this weekend. It would seem that alot of people are really busy right now which is understandable. But I also think that your email is a reminder to us all to repost our interests every so often. So here are mine. ALEXANDER JOHNSTON b.abt 1785 Mar. MARGARET MOAR b. abt 1789 Children: JOHN JOHNSTON b. 1815 Upper Grindalay MARY JOHNSTON b. 1813 Upper Grindalay ISOBEL JOHNSTON b. 1811 Upper Grindalay There is evidence to suggest that Margaret remarried a Caesar Johnstone and had four more children. I am still investigating that. ISOBEL Mar. 1834 to ROBERT SPENCE Children: WILLIAM JOHNSTON SPENCE b. 1836 ROBERT SPENCE b. 1840 ANN MOAR SPENCE b. 1838 ANN Mar. 1860 to WILLIAM PEACE - Birsay, Orkney Children: PETER PEACE b. 1864 Birsay MARY PEACE b. 1867 Birsay BARBARA PEACE b. 1870 Edinburgh WILLIAM PEACE b. 1874 Edinburgh Happy Holidays! Catherine

What is happening with the Orkney List? Is no mail coming through or is no one interested in Orkney Genealogy? I seem to be swamped with Inverness mail and have just noticed no posts from Orkney since the test messages from various people questioning what was happening. Names I am interested in mainly are Smith, Nicolson, Ritch from Hoy. Other minor lines are Sinclair, Anderson, Craigie, Stout, Mellis, Mowatt, Wallace, Ross, Groat, Wilson, Thomson, Walls. Hoping for lots of mail! Jan, Canberra, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Betty Wintersteen <BAWWYN@webtv.net> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, 12 December 1999 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ORKNEY] Test Hi Catherine Know the feeling. There were days when webtv wasn't working and I didn't receive email from several lists. Suddenly you feel all alone, almost lost. I know I look forward to opening up each email, even if it doesn't help me. Have a very Happy Christmas and New Year. Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Road, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - ---------------------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS

Hello, I'm looking for any Stevenson's. I started out looking for Betsy Stevens, only to find out that her name is really Marguerite Stevenson. The only list where I can find any Stevensons' listed is the Orkney lists. I believe Marguerite Stevenson was born at York Factory, Hudson bay, but her father, John Stevenson may be from Orkney. Her mother's name is shown as Mary Indian. Does anyone know of any John Stevenson, or any Stevensons, from Orkney who migrated to the York Factory area? Thank you, Glenda -----Original Message----- From: Tim & Evelyn Hlabse <hlabse@worldnet.att.net> To: ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com <ORKNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 8:01 AM Subject: [ORKNEY] quiet list >Hello, > >I suppose part of the quietness is because of the holidays coming up on >us and I agree that we should post the names we are interested in >periodically so here are mine: > >I'm looking for family named Stewart. My grandfather was Charles Thomas >Stewart and I think his parents were James Stewart and Jane/Jean Lennie >and I think from Stromness. Charles was one of a large number of >children - I know there was an Adelaide but she never married and there >was a James who had a daughter, Maysie/May who married a Frank Elliott >and moved to England. > >The Sinclair/Drever family is connected with Knockhall Farm in South >Ronaldsay and I'm doing pretty well on the Sinclair line but always >looking for additional family members. I'm not doing as well with >Drever. > >Outside of Orkney names I'm also looking for family of Finlay Williams, >fourth son of Julia MacAskill (McAskill) of Inverness and Peter John >Williams (I think from Greenock). > >So, if any of you know of any of these people I'd love to hear from you. > >Evelyn Sinclair Williams Hlabse >Richmond Heights, Ohio, USA >

Hi Catherine Know the feeling. There were days when webtv wasn't working and I didn't receive email from several lists. Suddenly you feel all alone, almost lost. I know I look forward to opening up each email, even if it doesn't help me. Have a very Happy Christmas and New Year. Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Road, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - ---------------------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS