I had not sent you a message earlier, Ken, but I read your list of names you are researching. I am also interested in the FOTHERINGHAM line in Orkney. I am trying to add more information to Thomas FOTHERINGHAM (1746-1821) who married Janet TOWRIE (1751-1827). Their daughter, Janet FOTHERINGHAM (1774-????) married Robert MUIR (1781-1855). Robert and Janet had a son, young Robert MUIR (1816-????). Young Robert married Mary SKEA in 1841 in Sanday. Their daughter, Georgina MUIR is my great grandmother. If you are interested in any of these people, I would be happy to share what little I have on the Orkney line. Barbara Laver

Listers, I am back, lurking again after a month off-List to visit southern England. If anyone has sent me a message in that time and not received a reply, please re-send it. Thank You Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GREAVES Yorkshire > London GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa SPENCE Orkney FOTHERINGHAM Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) MORRISON Islay > Ontario BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario McNABB Islay > Ontario MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

List, I am still looking for a GEDCOM of the Sandwick Linkater's, I think Ron Garson may have had one...a few years back. Wondering if he has a new email address? Regards Helen Linklater

Lisa May I have your permission to post that url of immigration to the Sutherland list please Cathy

Hi, Wondering if anybody can confirm or add to the information I have on the family of James McDonald, died 2 November 1855 at Burn House, and buried in Osmondwall Churchyard, Walls. He was a pensioner, Widower, 86 years, Born in the parish of Rea, Caithness. 26 years in Walls. Son of John McDonald, weaver in parish of Rea, Caithness, (Deceased) and Catherine McDonald, Maiden surname, Campbell, (Deceased). Married Margaret McDonald, Maiden surname, McLeod. (Deceased) Children, Catherine (60) and William (52) Would anyone know if there is a headstone for James or any information on the death his wife Margaret (McLeod)? Daughter, Catherine McDonald (1795 - ?) married Donald McDonald(? - ?) and had three children, Margaret (1820), James (1825) and John. Son, William McDonald (1803 - 15/2/1864) married Janet Campbell (abt 1807 - 1/5/1897)and had three children also, John (abt 1842), Margaret (abt 1845), and Christiana (abt 1847) Thanks in advance Chris Wright

{> on 6/21/05 8:44 AM <} Cathy Wagner wrote -- Lisa May I have your permission to post that url of immigration to the Sutherland list please Cathy ----- It's public knowledge, as far as I know!! I simply subscribe to the email listing of receiving new web sites submitted to CyndisList.com, and that was one that came in over the weekend! I just <snipped> it from the list of the others that came in for that day... Lisa

----- Original Message ----- From: "helen linklater" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:33 AM Subject: [Orkney] is Ron Garson still online? > List, I am still looking for a GEDCOM of the Sandwick Linkater's, I think > Ron Garson may have had one...a few years back. Wondering if he has a new > email address? > Regards > Helen Linklater > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > To browse or search the archives of this list: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Listers - I believe this is a brand new web site, and thought it would be of interest to many of you. I just added it yesterday to my own "Links Page"... Newly added to CyndisList.com -- URL: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/emigration TITLE: Scottish Emigration Database DESCRIPTION: This database contains details of over 21,000 passengers who embarked from Scottish ports between 1890 and 1960. Lisa -- SouthRonaldsay.net < http://www.southronaldsay.net/ >

Hi, Does anyone have a GEDCOM they could send to me, on a Sandwick/Stromness LINKLATER surname tree? Same as for the VELZIAN surname. Thanks Helen Linklater, Australia

Thanks Meg - I had omitted to look under NORQUOY -whenever will I learn!!! Joy - from the land down under ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greenwood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: [Orkney] Correction to Norquay / Renton marriage 1876 > The Reputed Father of Margaret RENTON in the Kirkwall 1876 Marriage was > JOHN RENTON, not James RENTON. I'd taken the tall letter h in John as a > long, printer's style S as in the abbreviation Jas. Not so. Its > clearly John RENTON > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: When replying to a message, please change the subject line of the >>>>>message if you've changed the subject - this will improve our list >>>>>archive and assist future researchers.<<<< > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

On the Norquay page Samuel Norquay m Margaret Renton circa 1876. I can find no trace of a marriage in GROS or IGI. Also, I cannot find a birth for Margaret Renton in the Orkney OPR. Is anyone able to shed some light on this? Joy - from the land down under

The Reputed Father of Margaret RENTON in the Kirkwall 1876 Marriage was JOHN RENTON, not James RENTON. I'd taken the tall letter h in John as a long, printer's style S as in the abbreviation Jas. Not so. Its clearly John RENTON

Joy - One reason you didn't find anything in the IGI is that the local legal records weren't used past 1875. If there are other entries, they are Patron Submissions more recently added and not directly from primary sources [Civil Registration books]. The basic IGI covers 1855 through 1875 events in Scotland entered from Registration books, which means occasionally handwriting is illegible or the quality of the books is less than desired [seriously faded ink]. Another reason is he is listed in the INDEXes of the General Register Office as Samuel NURQUOY. Scotlandpeople will only search for the exact surname you give them - you can use Wild Cards [*], but there are specific rules. Now to the other problems, Margaret RENTON may have been listed under her mother's surname.....the Marriage Registration shows James RENTON as the 'Reputed Father' so I'd look for Margaret ALLAN born about 1853-4. Here is the data from the marriage document in 1876 : Kirkwall Marriages, 1876- June 1, Wellington St, Kirkwall, Established Church of Scotland ceremony. Samuel NURQUOY, Mason's apprentice, Bachelor, 23y residing Burray. Son of Edward NURQUOY, Farmer and Mary NURQUOY ms ANDERSON. Margaret RENTON, Spinster, 22y residing Wellington St, Kirkwall. Daughter of James RENTON, Printer's apprentice [reputed father] and Janet ALLAN. Signed William SPARK, Minister of Kirkwall & St Ola. Witnesses were William SHAW and Elizabeth BROCH. Registered June 2 at Kirkwall. There were only 2 other Marriages in any Orkney parish [from 1855 to 1929] involving a RENTON lass. In 1880, Jane W. RENTON married David Balfour McKENZIE in Stromness, entry #11. In 1871, Ann RENTON married John ALLAN in Kirkwall & St Ola, entry #7. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA who has way too much printed-out from ScotlandsPeople in a huge file drawer, plus more films that you can shake a stick at. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: [email protected] Subject: [Orkney] Margaret Renton From: "Joy Moloney" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:55:11 -0700 On the Norquay page Samuel Norquay m Margaret Renton circa 1876. I can find no trace of a marriage in GROS or IGI. Also, I cannot find a birth for Margaret Renton in the Orkney OPR. Is anyone able to shed some light on this? Joy - from the land down under

Thank you Lisa. Excellent photos. Maureen Robinson.

{> on 6/15/05 7:14 PM <} Alex Cromarty wrote -- Lisa ; Re: :Your new photo web site of South Ronaldsay and Burray: You are welcome to use any of my photos from my website. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromartygray/ Alex ++++++++++++++++ I was going to respond to Alex off-list, but I believe that my response should probably be a follow-up to my 1st email about the "photo" part of my web site...... -- Alex, I am not sure if you mean: that I download, or something, selected pix from your site? I do not aim to do this (essentially 'take' photos from other people's sites), it is not my policy-- what I would hope to do is interact more directly and specifically with each Contributor and work out ownership, copyright and permission issues regarding each photo contributed... you may have a grouping of family photos on your own site, that are a conglomeration from many family members over the years of your research? Or all of your CROMARTY and etc pictures under your particular "ownership", at your home? Family privacy and agreement is important to me, and I would want to work out copyright permission details prior to my using your photographs. The reason I bring this up is that I originally had the intent of trying to post photos on SouthRonaldsay.net that are probably not posted anywhere else on the web... I wanted to provide a sort of venue for people to be able to post their family-related photos for South Ronaldsay/ Burray/ Swona/ Pentland Skerries, instead of, or until, they had their own web site space for same. There are two (maybe more?) things I could do, instead of "taking", or basically repeating, photos from Alex Cromarty's site (or anyone else's site) to my own website... --> One could be that right on my "Contributed Photographs" web page, I also post a list of links to web sites devoted to South Ronaldsay and Burray photos that already exist on-line, independent of my own site... that way people could skill access more photos; --> Another could be that I work out specifically with the other web site owner which particular photos [and, important to me, their copyright attributions and family permissions] that I could also post on SouthRonaldsay.net... and along with these certain photos we have agreed upon, I place a link above each of the photo(s) to your own photo web site... Any input or preferences welcome.... I know there are several researchers and several professional photographers who already either want to put their photos on-line on their own sites (you probably know who you are, too!), or already have their own sites with South Ronaldsay photos... it would be nice for SouthRonaldsay.net to be a sort of nexus for all of this, whether it be by photos of yours that you let me post myself, in my way, on my site -- or whether you let me link from my site to your site of photos on the "Contributed Photographs" page... - Lisa

In my tree I have James Gray Cromarty (1811-1871) who married Mary Kennedy Banks (1836-1921) on 16 May 1859 and their 6 children. Are we connected ? Blake Allan, Victoria BC----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Cromarty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>

Lisa ; Re: :Your new photo web site of South Ronaldsay and Burray: You are welcome to use any of my photos from my website. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromartygray/ Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] South Ronaldsay Burray Swona P. Skerries > You are welcome! > > Hopefully, more will be offered in the coming months/years... it would be > great to round out that photo section with every placename and every > gravestone on the island(s)! > > - Lisa > > > {> on 6/15/05 2:12 PM <} Cathy Wagner wrote -- > > Lisa > Thankyou so much for the photos!! Got choked looking at them.......smile > > Cathy Wagner > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > >>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: [email protected] In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Lisa Thankyou so much for the photos!! Got choked looking at them.......smile Cathy Wagner

You are welcome! Hopefully, more will be offered in the coming months/years... it would be great to round out that photo section with every placename and every gravestone on the island(s)! - Lisa {> on 6/15/05 2:12 PM <} Cathy Wagner wrote -- Lisa Thankyou so much for the photos!! Got choked looking at them.......smile Cathy Wagner ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ====

Please CC your post to [email protected] (the originating poster) ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Conrad - SouthRonaldsay.net" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:31 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} South Ronaldsay Burray Swona P. Skerries > South Ronaldsay Researchers- > > > Hope it is okay to let any interested listers know that last night I added a > new section to my research web site for South Ronaldsay: > > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/sr~photolist_contributors.html > > > > > It is dedicated to all the people who are unable, for one reason or another, > to visit South Ronaldsay/Burray in particular... > > photos can really help bring the island "home" to the South Ronaldsay > descendants who cannot travel for financial or health reasons... > any of you who may want to share pictures could contact me. > > Be sure to read the guidelines on how and what to Contribute, though! > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/photoguidelines_n.html > > > > Thank you! > > Lisa > SouthRonaldsay.net > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/ > > > > > > > > >