A few more leads for you: NAS CC17/2/3 Testament, Janet Clark, spouse to James Bewis, in Holme, 12 Oct 1637: see www.scotlands people.gov.uk NAS CC17/2/5 Testament, Catherine Clark, spouse to David Ryland, in Sangar, Shapinsay 16 May 1649. ditto NAS CC17/2/8 or /9 Testament, Thomas Clark and his spouse, in Walls 23 Jan 1665. ditto NAS CC17/2/10 Testament, John Clark, in Sands, Shapinsay, 10 Jan 1668. ditto NAS CS7/13, ff. 260-1: 12 March 1584-5 Discharge by Mr Edward Bruce, advocate, to Michael Balfour of Montquhany, for 2000 merks, (?an annualrent on the lands of Montquhany) and ratification of contractes dated at Edinburgh and Montquhany, 16 and 21 May 1585, between the said Michael and Marioun Adam, his spouse, on the one part, and the said Mr Edward and Magdalen Clerk, his spouse, on the other, concerning the alienation of the lands of Westray, whereby the said Mr Edward discharges all interest he may have in them and all other lands pertaining to Archibald Balfour of Westray to which he or his heirs may pretend interest, with all rights and titles made by the said Archibald to the said Michael, and will also give 'afauld and trew counsall' to the said Michael. NAS CS15, box 31: Edinburgh, 3 October 1582: Letters of summons at instance of Patrick Bellenden of Stenness, holding tack, undated, by Archibald Douglas to *** of the subdeanery of Orkney, narrating that tenants will not pay and must be summoned, in particular John Stewart and Thomas Flemyng, both allegedly provided to the 'stallarie' of the said subdeanery, and others having interest. With notes of execution by William Bannatyne: on 18 December 1582 before witnesses Thomas Swinton, minister; Alexander Robertson; Alexander ?Ure, burgess of Kirkwall; against the said John Stewart 'pretendit subdean': on 29 December before witnesses James Broun, younger; Magnus Prince; Walter Clerk, servitor to Jerome Tulloch; against James Irving, Magnus Langskaill, Thomas Moir, Alexander Broun, John Cursiter (Cursetter), Magnus Irving, Symoun ?Burn and Jerome Tulloch, tenants: and on 23 and 30 December before witness Thomas Fleming; against Thomas, Andro and William Lentroun; Magnus Prens! e; Magnus Chalmer; and David Thomesoun. NAS NP1/75B f.179: Feu charter 1580 by Earl Robert to William Clark and his spouse Mareon Chalmer, of a tenement in Cairston, "with power of brewing and selling, keeping of ostelrie and bying of al things appertening thairto for furnissing of commounes and utheris resorting thairaway." Reference in Troup & Eunson 1967, 2 NAS PS1/54, f. 137: Charter at Kirkwall, 2 May 1580, by Lord Robert Stewart, feuar of Orknay and Yetland, to Rany Elphingstoun of the ½d land of 'Hamiger in Cairston, (Hammager in Kairstane), in the parish of Stromness. With precept of sasine (in the vernacular) following thereupon, dated at Birsay, 3 May 1580, witnessed by Mr John Duschingtoun, William Gordoun, Thomas Robesoun, Walter Bruce, servitors of the said Lord Robert Stewart, and instrument of sasine dated 6 June 1580, given by Mr Jerome Tulloch, subchanter of Orkney, to the said deceased Rannald, and afterwards at his desire, to Jonet Halcro, his spouse, in conjunct fee, before William Fermour, notary public. Witnesses: Andrew Davidsoun in Anstruther, Thomas Smyth, Stephen Broun, Thomas Adesoun, William Clerk, Magnus Prince (Prence). Confirmation under the great seal, 31 March 1587. Printed RMS, v, no. 1178; listed in Hourston Inventory, OA D20/4/16A, no.2. Notes D20/3/12; D23/3, 231. NAS RH1/2/201 (19th century transcript) Gift by Duncan of Law to Donald Clerk "in mariage as movable gude wyth Janet Law my sister" of part of a tenement in Kirkwall, Kirkwall 6 June 1433. Abstract in Clouston 1914, p329. NAS RH9/15/175/1, f.21v: Poll Tax List of Holm, c1693: James Clark, apparently unmarried, in property owned by David Covingtree, paying rent of 2 meils malt, worth c.£4 scots. OA D23/15/2 Testament dative in Walls, 24 Jan 1665 of Thomas Clark, died Apr 1646, spouse of Janat Ronald. OA SC11/5/1766/026 Action, Janet Douglas against John Clark, tenant in Holland. OA SC11/5/1770/013 Action, John Clark, tacksman in Shapinsay against John Laughton. PRO B11/1420: Will dated 15 Feb 1805 of Margaret Clark, widow of Andrew Garrioch in St.Andrews/Kirkwall. If you are not familiar with terms, abbreviations or context of above my I recommend my book "Trace Your Orkney Ancestors". Please revert to me off-list for details. The attribution of the surname in Black's "The Surnames of Scotland" (1947) says "Originally a man in a religious order, and later a scholar". While there is a monastry in Orkney today, it moved there only in the 1990s, I think, and I'm pretty sure there wasn't one in the 17th century, so it seems likely the early Clarks of Orkney came, like many other Orcadian families, from the scottish mainland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis & Catherine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:36 PM Subject: Clarks of Orkney > Hello all, I've been reading everyone's postings with interest for a while, now I've got one. > > I've traced the Clark branch of my family back to Orkney - this is as far as I've got - > > Alexander Clark born 6 Feb 1681 Holm & Paplay, married Janet McKiver c1680 in Thurso 28 March 1701 > > Alexander's parents: Donald Clark c1659 Orkney & Katherine Randall c1658 Orkney (don't know where exactly). > > Donald Clark's (1659) father, another Donald Clark was born c1635 Caithness. > > I've been told the Clark name originated because the men were clerks to the monks. I don't know if there were monks on Orkney in the 1600s, but the name must go back further than that. I think Alexander & Janet lived in Wick after their marriage. > > Is there any way of finding out anything about the clerks to the monks of Orkney? I know some of the "lower order" monks were clerks, and they were allowed to marry. Strange to think one of my ancestors might have been a monk! I'd appreciate any help at all. > > Catherine > > ______________________________

Meg, thank you for your trouble. Wouldn't you know it - it's the wrong Jane Leask. My Jane Leaskparents were Robert Leask & Jane Cummin[g]. I have Jane's birth & christening details and she is in the 1841 census with her family at St Ola aged 4 yrs, but then she disappears. Perhaps she died? Cheers Joy Wagga Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg Greenwood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: [Orkney] Jane Leask marriage 1860 > Joy - Here is the information from the 1860 Marriage in Shapinsay : > > #7 - On the 13th day of November, 1860 at Quoymerries, Shapinshay, > Marriage after Banns was solemnized between us according to the forms of > the Evangelical Union Church. Signed James SCOTT, 25 residing Quoymerries, > a Farmer's son & bachelor. Parents were John SCOTT, Farmer & Christian > Scott ms HEDDLE. Signed Jane LEASK, 23 residing Ness, a Farm Servant & > spinster. Daughter of Robert LEASK, Mason & Elisabeth LEASK ms HOURSTON. > Signed William HUTCHISON, Minister. Witnesses were James MITCHELL & Magnus > MICHAEL. Registered Shapinshay, 1 December, 1860. George B. Hepburn, > Registrar. > The other Registration on that page is below : > > #8 - On the 21st day of December, 1860 at Vethesquoy, Shapinshay, Marriage > after Banns was solemnized between us according to the Forms of the United > Presbyterian Church. Signed William DINNISON, 34 resising Ness, a Farm > Manager & bachelor, son of John DINNISON, Farmer & Christian DINNISON ms > LAISK deceased. Signed Mary MICOLSON, 26 of Vethesquay, Shapinshay, a > spinster, daughter of William NICOLSON, Farmer & Isabella NICOLSON ms > SCLATER. Signed James BROWN, Minister. Witnesses were James REID & David > B. HEPBURN. Registered 22 December, 1860 at Shapinshay. George Hepburn, > Registrar. > Can send JPG if needed. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > From: "Joy Moloney" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Orkney] Jane Leask - I have come across a Jane Leask who married > James Scott 30 Nov 1860 in > Shapinsay. Does anyone know who her parents were? Cheers, Joy - Wagga > Australia > > > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >>>>>[email protected] In the body include only one word: >>>>>unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hello all, I've been reading everyone's postings with interest for a while, now I've got one. I've traced the Clark branch of my family back to Orkney - this is as far as I've got - Alexander Clark born 6 Feb 1681 Holm & Paplay, married Janet McKiver c1680 in Thurso 28 March 1701 Alexander's parents: Donald Clark c1659 Orkney & Katherine Randall c1658 Orkney (don't know where exactly). Donald Clark's (1659) father, another Donald Clark was born c1635 Caithness. I've been told the Clark name originated because the men were clerks to the monks. I don't know if there were monks on Orkney in the 1600s, but the name must go back further than that. I think Alexander & Janet lived in Wick after their marriage. Is there any way of finding out anything about the clerks to the monks of Orkney? I know some of the "lower order" monks were clerks, and they were allowed to marry. Strange to think one of my ancestors might have been a monk! I'd appreciate any help at all. Catherine

Betsy VanAuker wrote: > Thank you for your help. It is a relief to know that Janet and Mary are not > Heddles. Would someone who has a copy of the 1841 census check to see if > Robert Heddle and his family are really Heddles? The other 2 groups of > Heddles are related to me. They are part of a family that migrated to > Longhope from Kirkwall. Margaret, I have found the following family in the 1841 census:- Melsetter Robert Heddle, aged 60, Independent means. Elisabeth Heddle, aged 35, not born in Orkney. Emilia Heddle, aged 20, not born in Orkney. John Heddle, aged 20. There are two other Heddle families that I have found, at Northrow and Kirkhouse. -- Mike Clouston

Joy - Here is the information from the 1860 Marriage in Shapinsay : #7 - On the 13th day of November, 1860 at Quoymerries, Shapinshay, Marriage after Banns was solemnized between us according to the forms of the Evangelical Union Church. Signed James SCOTT, 25 residing Quoymerries, a Farmer's son & bachelor. Parents were John SCOTT, Farmer & Christian Scott ms HEDDLE. Signed Jane LEASK, 23 residing Ness, a Farm Servant & spinster. Daughter of Robert LEASK, Mason & Elisabeth LEASK ms HOURSTON. Signed William HUTCHISON, Minister. Witnesses were James MITCHELL & Magnus MICHAEL. Registered Shapinshay, 1 December, 1860. George B. Hepburn, Registrar. The other Registration on that page is below : #8 - On the 21st day of December, 1860 at Vethesquoy, Shapinshay, Marriage after Banns was solemnized between us according to the Forms of the United Presbyterian Church. Signed William DINNISON, 34 resising Ness, a Farm Manager & bachelor, son of John DINNISON, Farmer & Christian DINNISON ms LAISK deceased. Signed Mary MICOLSON, 26 of Vethesquay, Shapinshay, a spinster, daughter of William NICOLSON, Farmer & Isabella NICOLSON ms SCLATER. Signed James BROWN, Minister. Witnesses were James REID & David B. HEPBURN. Registered 22 December, 1860 at Shapinshay. George Hepburn, Registrar. Can send JPG if needed. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "Joy Moloney" <[email protected]> Subject: [Orkney] Jane Leask - I have come across a Jane Leask who married James Scott 30 Nov 1860 in Shapinsay. Does anyone know who her parents were? Cheers, Joy - Wagga Australia

Joy If you go to www.cursiter.com you will find the indices of most births and marriages of Orkney names. I had a look at LEASK and there are several that could be your Jean. If you know how old she was when she married, that could narrow it down a bit but there are certainly some possibilities there. Happy hunting. Suzie From: "Joy Moloney" <[email protected]> Subject: [Orkney] Jane Leask I have come across a Jane Leask who married James Scott 30 Nov 1860 in Shapinsay. Does anyone know who her parents were? Cheers Joy - Wagga Australia

Thank you for your help. It is a relief to know that Janet and Mary are not Heddles. Would someone who has a copy of the 1841 census check to see if Robert Heddle and his family are really Heddles? The other 2 groups of Heddles are related to me. They are part of a family that migrated to Longhope from Kirkwall. Margaret VanAuker [email protected]

Alex, Thanks for the James Durran Cromarty information, he would have been my g g grandfather, this is the only Cromarty family I have actually done a bit of research on, while researching my Allan's, Betsy Stewart Allan and James Durran Cromarty had seven children, as well as the six you have found there was also a John Cromarty born 22nd Sept. 1876 John died 18th May 1877 of Bronchitis. My line is from his daughter Catherine Peebles Cromarty who married James Peebles Rosie in Liverpool 1896 at some point they moved to Glasgow where my granny Catherine Allan Peebles Rosie, was born in 1896 Catherine Peebles Cromarty died (complications after the birth of a son, baby also died) 1898 in Glasgow and James Rosie died 1909, in Glasgow, Mary Jane Cromarty came down to Glasgow to look after her niece until her education was finished then they went back to live on Swona, at some point granny met and married John Budge (granddad) from SouthRonaldsay they had seven children, Catherine Rosie Budge one of their daughters, my mother, which leads me on to my Budge line and Oman. What is your connection to James Durran Cromarty and Betsy Stewart Allan ? Kind Regards Cathy In a message dated 26/09/2005 12:10:58 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Cathy; I have a James Durran Cromarty born 19 Jan 1843 Settigar, South Ronaldsay married 27 May 1867 at Sandwick to Betsy Stewart Allan who was born 4 Mar 1837 on Swona, South Ronaldsay. They had six Children all born on Swona: Catherine Peebles 1868, Mary Jane 1870, Elizabeth 1882, Margaret 24 Feb 1874, Jemima 1879 and William 1883. James Durran Cromarty's parents were Magnus Cromarty and Elizabeth Stewart. James died 1 Jul 1913 All the full birth dates could be got from Scotlandspeople. H. Alex Cromarty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] Oman Budge--SouthRonaldsay

I have come across a Jane Leask who married James Scott 30 Nov 1860 in Shapinsay. Does anyone know who her parents were? Cheers Joy - Wagga Australia

Mike, Interesting. What you say certainly sounds pretty convincing to me! Good detective work! Norman Tulloch Mike Clouston wrote: > Margaret, > > I think I have found the answer to the problem. > > On > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/R4U_Update/Orkney/ORKNEY-WALLS%20&%20FLOTTA-Alp-A-Z.htm > it clearly states "Seabong" alongside the entry for Janet Heddle. > > I then looked in my hand-written copy of the 1841 census and couldn't > find a Janet Heddle at all. However, using the names of her neighbours > as references, I found a Jennet Harrold aged 60 and a Mary Harrold aged > 20, both residing at 'Seaberry' with a question mark alongside the name > of the residence, meaning the transcriber wasn't happy with what he was > reading, exactly where Janet and Mary Heddle appeared in the on-line > version. > > So I would submit that 'Seabong' was an attempt by whoever transcribed > the 1841 census for relys4u at the name of the residence and 'Seaberry' > was an attempt by whoever transcribed my hand-written copy of the same > census. I don't think it is an occupation at all. In fact, no occupation > is shown for Jennet or Mary Harrold on my copy. > > Hope this helps. >

Mike Clouston wrote: > Norman Tulloch wrote: >> Margaret VanAuker wrote: >>> I have been checking the 1841 census for Walls and Flotta. I have come >>> across an occupation called: seabong. Can some one tell me what this >>> means? >> >> >> Margaret, >> >> I'm a bit worried about this "seabong" thing. It sounds more like >> something out of Lewis Carroll rather than the occupation of a >> long-dead Orcadian. I've never heard of it at all. Google does >> produce some hits, but they mostly seem to be from Korea rather than >> the island of Hoy. I checked the Scottish dictionaries at >> http://www.dsl.ac.uk/dsl/ but they came up with nothing either. >> >> Are you trying to read a copy of the original handwritten census? If >> so, are you sure that it says "seabong" rather than, say, "seaman"? >> Not all of the handwriting in such documents is easy to make out. If >> it's a transcription you're reading, maybe the transcriber just got >> it wrong? >> >> Is the person with such an occupation male or female? Could the >> mystery word possibly be read as something else? "Seabong" has me >> stumped but a bit intrigued! >> >> Regards, >> >> Norman Tulloch > Margaret, > > What is the name you are looking at? I'll have a look on my copy and > see if I can find anything. > Margaret, I think I have found the answer to the problem. On http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/R4U_Update/Orkney/ORKNEY-WALLS%20&%20FLOTTA-Alp-A-Z.htm it clearly states "Seabong" alongside the entry for Janet Heddle. I then looked in my hand-written copy of the 1841 census and couldn't find a Janet Heddle at all. However, using the names of her neighbours as references, I found a Jennet Harrold aged 60 and a Mary Harrold aged 20, both residing at 'Seaberry' with a question mark alongside the name of the residence, meaning the transcriber wasn't happy with what he was reading, exactly where Janet and Mary Heddle appeared in the on-line version. So I would submit that 'Seabong' was an attempt by whoever transcribed the 1841 census for relys4u at the name of the residence and 'Seaberry' was an attempt by whoever transcribed my hand-written copy of the same census. I don't think it is an occupation at all. In fact, no occupation is shown for Jennet or Mary Harrold on my copy. Hope this helps. -- Mike Clouston

Norman Tulloch wrote: > Margaret VanAuker wrote: >> I have been checking the 1841 census for Walls and Flotta. I have come >> across an occupation called: seabong. Can some one tell me what this >> means? > > > Margaret, > > I'm a bit worried about this "seabong" thing. It sounds more like > something out of Lewis Carroll rather than the occupation of a > long-dead Orcadian. I've never heard of it at all. Google does > produce some hits, but they mostly seem to be from Korea rather than > the island of Hoy. I checked the Scottish dictionaries at > http://www.dsl.ac.uk/dsl/ but they came up with nothing either. > > Are you trying to read a copy of the original handwritten census? If > so, are you sure that it says "seabong" rather than, say, "seaman"? > Not all of the handwriting in such documents is easy to make out. If > it's a transcription you're reading, maybe the transcriber just got it > wrong? > > Is the person with such an occupation male or female? Could the > mystery word possibly be read as something else? "Seabong" has me > stumped but a bit intrigued! > > Regards, > > Norman Tulloch Margaret, What is the name you are looking at? I'll have a look on my copy and see if I can find anything. -- Mike Clouston

Margaret VanAuker wrote: > I have been checking the 1841 census for Walls and Flotta. I have come > across an occupation called: seabong. Can some one tell me what this means? Margaret, I'm a bit worried about this "seabong" thing. It sounds more like something out of Lewis Carroll rather than the occupation of a long-dead Orcadian. I've never heard of it at all. Google does produce some hits, but they mostly seem to be from Korea rather than the island of Hoy. I checked the Scottish dictionaries at http://www.dsl.ac.uk/dsl/ but they came up with nothing either. Are you trying to read a copy of the original handwritten census? If so, are you sure that it says "seabong" rather than, say, "seaman"? Not all of the handwriting in such documents is easy to make out. If it's a transcription you're reading, maybe the transcriber just got it wrong? Is the person with such an occupation male or female? Could the mystery word possibly be read as something else? "Seabong" has me stumped but a bit intrigued! Regards, Norman Tulloch

I have been checking the 1841 census for Walls and Flotta. I have come across an occupation called: seabong. Can some one tell me what this means? Margaret VanAuker [email protected]

Cathy; I have a James Durran Cromarty born 19 Jan 1843 Settigar, South Ronaldsay married 27 May 1867 at Sandwick to Betsy Stewart Allan who was born 4 Mar 1837 on Swona, South Ronaldsay. They had six Children all born on Swona: Catherine Peebles 1868, Mary Jane 1870, Elizabeth 1882, Margaret 24 Feb 1874, Jemima 1879 and William 1883. James Durran Cromarty's parents were Magnus Cromarty and Elizabeth Stewart. James died 1 Jul 1913 All the full birth dates could be got from Scotlandspeople. H. Alex Cromarty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] Oman Budge--SouthRonaldsay > > i Blake, > > Thank you for taking the time to help with my Oman Budge query, I can send > you my address off list, for this lady you think might be able to assist in my > search. > > Incidentally I also have Allan's and Cromarty's in my line, my maternal > grandmothers parents were James Peebles Rosie and Catherine Peebles Cromarty, > Catherine's parents were James Durran Cromarty and Betsy Stewart Allan, Betsy's > parents were George Allan and Catherine Robertson any connection? > > Thank you once again > > Cathy > > > Cathy, I don't know about your Oman Budge, but I know a lady in Kirkwall, > who will know if anyone does. She doesn't > have a computer but I have her address and telephone number. > She and her husband Jimmy are very nice people and she has been keeping > family records a great many years. She is a Thomson and connected to the > Budge family. > Blake Allan, Victoria BC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:23 PM > Subject: [Orkney] Oman Budge--SouthRonaldsay > > > > > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > >>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: [email protected] In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

And the OHFS has transcriptions that you can buy at very reasonable prices for each of the census years by parish - 1821 if you are lucky, 1841, 1851, .... to 1901. See the "publications" section on the website. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Clouston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 September 2005 12:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Orkney] OHFS logon Joy Brass wrote: > Am new to this so don't even know what OHFS is! We are looking for > William Brass information in Sandwick--mid 1800's. Sons named William > and Edward went to Pittsburgh. A sister, Mary Brass, lived on the old > farm. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Joy, OFHS is the Orkney Family History Society. You'll find their website at http://www.orkneyfhs.co.uk/ Another useful website is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/R4U_Update/Orkney/ which is an index of the 1841 census for Orkney. Select the parish you want, in your case Sandwick, and you'll find several Brass surnames there. There are two Mary Brass. Take your pick! Sadly there are a huge amount of transcription and typing errors. All registers for Scotland since 1855 and the censuses for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 are viewable on-line at a price at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Good luck with your research -- Mike Clouston ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>TIP: When when posting your research interests, include the surnames in your subject line - this will improve our list archive and assist future researchers.<<<< ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Joy Brass wrote: > Am new to this so don't even know what OHFS is! We are looking for > William Brass information in Sandwick--mid 1800's. Sons named William > and Edward went to Pittsburgh. A sister, Mary Brass, lived on the old > farm. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Joy, OFHS is the Orkney Family History Society. You'll find their website at http://www.orkneyfhs.co.uk/ Another useful website is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/R4U_Update/Orkney/ which is an index of the 1841 census for Orkney. Select the parish you want, in your case Sandwick, and you'll find several Brass surnames there. There are two Mary Brass. Take your pick! Sadly there are a huge amount of transcription and typing errors. All registers for Scotland since 1855 and the censuses for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 are viewable on-line at a price at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Good luck with your research -- Mike Clouston

Hi I had the same trouble It is not automatically set up so I got in touch with the webmaster. He has to be sent the info to update the website. It is the first letter and number of your address Hope this helps Regards Berenice in Ayrshire Searching TAYLOR's in Orkney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hepburn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] OHFS logon > You need to look at your mailing label for your password - use the first > character of each line if I recall... > > Alan HEPBURN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Snowden" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Orkney] OHFS logon > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:29:39 +0100 > >> >> Can anyone tell me where/when details of what my logon password is were >> supplied with the newsletter (I am a member)? Or do I have to apply to >> the >> society. >> >> Mike >> >> >> ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >> This is not a commercial or "FWD the latest political or humour" list, >> anyone considering posting any item that might be construed as being >> commercial/political otherwise known as being "OFF TOPIC" can and will >> be advised once - IF there is a second post of the same nature the >> subscriber will be unsubscribed IMMEDIATELY. >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > To browse or search the archives of this list: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/107 - Release Date: 20/09/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 22/09/2005

Thank you so very much, Mike. I was going to write you yesterday to say how much we liked your web site. I read every bit of it and am so very sorry that I could never get my 98 year old mother to write down her history. I am trying hard to pick her brain. She is of Scottish descent and was born in Cape Breton, NS--but that is my side of the family, not Tom's. She was a Johnston and a Munroe. We have been to Orkney and had the old farm pointed out to us. It is near Scara Brae, not Scapa Flow. I made a mistake before, quoting an aunt of my husband's. Your family looks lovely and your web site is so well designed. I am in awe! You are very kind to help us and everyone else!

My husband's great-grandparents were Edward and Mary Brass of Norwegian descent. They lived at Quoyloo, Sandwick--close to Scapa Flow. They had 4 sons (infant son that died, Paul, Wallace, and Edward). and 3 daughters (Jean, Isabelle and Mary). William married Anna Sutherland from Glasgow. Had a farm in Oakmont, PA. They had 5 daughters and one son. Edward at the age of 16 escorted William's wife to the States. Married Bess Milligan and lived in the north side of Pittsburgh. David joined the Hudson Bay Furriers and died of typhoid fever in British Colombia. Jean (Spence) had several sons. One son, John, came to Pittsburgh and died of T.B. Isabelle married a cousin named Scarth. 2 sons, George and Robert. George was a professor of botany in Montreal. Robert lived in Kirkwall. Mary remained single and cared for her parents until their death. This is all of the information that we have--with no dates except for tombstones which we will have to locate the pictures we have.