Fiona, The book is listed on Amazon UK, though you have to pay an extra "sourcing fee" for it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902957008/qid%3D1129500058/202-1286726-6671827 It's also listed by the Scottish Genealogy Society, though it seems surprisingly cheap compared to Amazon and I'm therefore not totally sure that it's the same book. I think it must be, but it would be as well to check before ordering it. Look here: http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/cgi-bin/ca000000.pl Norman Tulloch

Hi Norman Never thought about trying the Scottish Genealogy Society and I'm a member so i'll have a look! thanks very much Fiona

Hi Lisa According to the OFHS information the book is already printed and available elsewhere. I tried them in the summer and they didn't keep copies,maybe that has changed but not according to their website or forms for MI's I'll maybe try them again Fiona

Can anyone tell me where i can buy the above book? I've tried The Orcadian shop online but no luck. Tried when i was up in Orkney during the summer but was unsuccessful Fiona

Hi Fiona -- The MIs that are available can be ordered from the Orkney Family History Society... are you a member? < http://www.orkneyfhs.co.uk/docs/mis.htm > Best wishes, Lisa {> on 10/16/05 2:00 PM <} [email protected] wrote -- Can anyone tell me where i can buy the above book? I've tried The Orcadian shop online but no luck. Tried when i was up in Orkney during the summer but was unsuccessful Fiona

I think that this looks like a great site. Ros Chapman -----Original Message----- From: Linda Staunton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 2:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IoT] Gazettes on Line Hi Lists, A bit like the London Times http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk You can now search online archives from 1900 to 1979 Happy hunting, Linda

Hi listers, I am hoping somebody may be able to help with info on the Muckle Harvest affair of 1847. Some of our family members where involved in this and in a few cases proved to be the reason why some family members came to South Australia. Any information would be greatly appreciated. As we don't seem to be able to find anything on the internet. Regards, Anne & Malcolm In rainy Sydney.

[replied off-list] {> on 10/9/05 5:41 PM <} Charlie Petersen wrote -- Thank you again, Lisa - I have pix I can send you, but there's writing on them that I want edited out, and my own scanner doesn't have the resolution that they have. Can you edit them? I don't have the proper software. They are copies of old pictures owned by Mrs. Ina Kennedy Laird, who now lives on the old Bremner property known as Gallowhill. Charlie Petersen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <[email protected]> Subject: [Orkney] Burray > > A fellow South Ronaldsay & Burray researcher, Jim Lawson, painstakingly took > the time to photograph and transcribe for me and, hence, other researchers, > several of the 19th-century gravestones at the St. Lawrence/Burray Cemetery

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Can anyone help me with the ancestors of John Sutherland who married Jean or Jane Allan in Orkney on 19 Mar 1818 ? Blake Allan, Victoria BC

Thank you so much Lisa for all the great work that you, & others, contribute to the field of genealogical research. I think you're wonderful to make so much info readily available to assist fellow researchers. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [Orkney] Burray > > A fellow South Ronaldsay & Burray researcher, Jim Lawson, painstakingly > took > the time to photograph and transcribe for me and, hence, other > researchers, > several of the 19th-century gravestones at the St. Lawrence/Burray > Cemetery > during his August visit to Orkney. He has added them to his great list of > Photograph Contributions at SouthRonaldsay.net. I believe he will also be > sending me even more "People" and Places" (farms, houses, landscapes) in > the > next few months, mainly for South Ronaldsay, which I will also be adding > to > my site. > > If you have family history from Burray, the gravestone images are worth > viewing, especially if you are unable to travel to Orkney. Jim can be > reached for his gravestone transcriptions via a link on his photo pages. > Click the link on below page for Jim's name to see his newest photos: > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/sr~photolist_contributors.html > > > > I've had contact with several of you who also have expressed intentions of > contributing photographs, for family history research for South Ronaldsay > and Burray... but I still await your Contributions! Looking forward to > hearing from you. > For Guidelines on how to contribute, > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/photoguidelines_n.html > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Lisa - > SouthRonaldsay.net > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/ > > email for info on Photo Contributions: > < [email protected] > > > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > Thanks to the submitters for all the virus information provided, but let > me please reinforce that Rootsweb policy prohibits posts on this issue. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I wholeheartedly agree with Blake. Without the generosity and time spent by Lisa and many others, I for one would not have managed to find so much information for my family research. Keep up the good work!

Thank you again, Lisa - I have pix I can send you, but there's writing on them that I want edited out, and my own scanner doesn't have the resolution that they have. Can you edit them? I don't have the proper software. They are copies of old pictures owned by Mrs. Ina Kennedy Laird, who now lives on the old Bremner property known as Gallowhill. Charlie Petersen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: [Orkney] Burray > > A fellow South Ronaldsay & Burray researcher, Jim Lawson, painstakingly > took > the time to photograph and transcribe for me and, hence, other > researchers, > several of the 19th-century gravestones at the St. Lawrence/Burray > Cemetery > during his August visit to Orkney. He has added them to his great list of > Photograph Contributions at SouthRonaldsay.net. I believe he will also be > sending me even more "People" and Places" (farms, houses, landscapes) in > the > next few months, mainly for South Ronaldsay, which I will also be adding > to > my site. > > If you have family history from Burray, the gravestone images are worth > viewing, especially if you are unable to travel to Orkney. Jim can be > reached for his gravestone transcriptions via a link on his photo pages. > Click the link on below page for Jim's name to see his newest photos: > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/sr~photolist_contributors.html > > > > I've had contact with several of you who also have expressed intentions of > contributing photographs, for family history research for South Ronaldsay > and Burray... but I still await your Contributions! Looking forward to > hearing from you. > For Guidelines on how to contribute, > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/photoguidelines_n.html > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Lisa - > SouthRonaldsay.net > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/ > > email for info on Photo Contributions: > < [email protected] > > > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > Thanks to the submitters for all the virus information provided, but let > me please reinforce that Rootsweb policy prohibits posts on this issue. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/2005 > >

Thank you Lisa. Getting very old (had 89th birthday 2 days ago) and can only manage a few things but appreciatenthe great work you do for many of us, Blake ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: [Orkney] Burray > > A fellow South Ronaldsay & Burray researcher, Jim Lawson, painstakingly > took > the time to photograph and transcribe for me and, hence, other > researchers, > several of the 19th-century gravestones at the St. Lawrence/Burray > Cemetery > during his August visit to Orkney. He has added them to his great list of > Photograph Contributions at SouthRonaldsay.net. I believe he will also be > sending me even more "People" and Places" (farms, houses, landscapes) in > the > next few months, mainly for South Ronaldsay, which I will also be adding > to > my site. > > If you have family history from Burray, the gravestone images are worth > viewing, especially if you are unable to travel to Orkney. Jim can be > reached for his gravestone transcriptions via a link on his photo pages. > Click the link on below page for Jim's name to see his newest photos: > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/sr~photolist_contributors.html > > > > I've had contact with several of you who also have expressed intentions of > contributing photographs, for family history research for South Ronaldsay > and Burray... but I still await your Contributions! Looking forward to > hearing from you. > For Guidelines on how to contribute, > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/photoguidelines_n.html > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Lisa - > SouthRonaldsay.net > < http://www.southronaldsay.net/ > > email for info on Photo Contributions: > < [email protected] > > > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > Thanks to the submitters for all the virus information provided, but let > me please reinforce that Rootsweb policy prohibits posts on this issue. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: > 09/10/2005 > >

A fellow South Ronaldsay & Burray researcher, Jim Lawson, painstakingly took the time to photograph and transcribe for me and, hence, other researchers, several of the 19th-century gravestones at the St. Lawrence/Burray Cemetery during his August visit to Orkney. He has added them to his great list of Photograph Contributions at SouthRonaldsay.net. I believe he will also be sending me even more "People" and Places" (farms, houses, landscapes) in the next few months, mainly for South Ronaldsay, which I will also be adding to my site. If you have family history from Burray, the gravestone images are worth viewing, especially if you are unable to travel to Orkney. Jim can be reached for his gravestone transcriptions via a link on his photo pages. Click the link on below page for Jim's name to see his newest photos: < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/sr~photolist_contributors.html > I've had contact with several of you who also have expressed intentions of contributing photographs, for family history research for South Ronaldsay and Burray... but I still await your Contributions! Looking forward to hearing from you. For Guidelines on how to contribute, < http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/photoguidelines_n.html > Best Wishes, Lisa - SouthRonaldsay.net < http://www.southronaldsay.net/ > email for info on Photo Contributions: < [email protected] >

Thanks, Joy! That sounds very interesting. I wonder why I didn't find an entry on the Scotland's People web site? Deborah <snip> Alexander McKid Cummin christened 6 Aug 1837 Walls & Flotta James Cummin father Margaret Scott mother <snip>

Deborah, The following may be of interest - Alexander McKid Cummin christened 6 Aug 1837 Walls & Flotta James Cummin father Margaret Scott mother Hope this helps Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Mitchell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: [Orkney] CUMMINGS > Dear List, > > I'm new to this list, thanks to a recent discovery that my husband's > great-grandfather was born in Orkney (exact location unknown, alas!). > I would be very pleased to hear from anyone with links to or information > about Alick CUMMING, born about 1840, somewhere in Orkney. His father, > James, was a sailor or tailor and died before Alick's marriage in Fulham, > London in 1884. Alick's occupation was railway inspector. > > Just as a matter of interest, I stumbled upon a Margaret CUMMING on the > 1901 census for Forest Gate, West Ham, widow, aged 51, living on own > means, born Orkney (though obviously I don't know her maiden name). Her > son, Finlay H Cumming, aged 19, merchant's clerk, born Scotland, is with > her. Perhaps someone is looking for them? > Deborah > > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >>>>>[email protected] In the body include only one word: >>>>>unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dear List, I'm new to this list, thanks to a recent discovery that my husband's great-grandfather was born in Orkney (exact location unknown, alas!). I would be very pleased to hear from anyone with links to or information about Alick CUMMING, born about 1840, somewhere in Orkney. His father, James, was a sailor or tailor and died before Alick's marriage in Fulham, London in 1884. Alick's occupation was railway inspector. Just as a matter of interest, I stumbled upon a Margaret CUMMING on the 1901 census for Forest Gate, West Ham, widow, aged 51, living on own means, born Orkney (though obviously I don't know her maiden name). Her son, Finlay H Cumming, aged 19, merchant's clerk, born Scotland, is with her. Perhaps someone is looking for them? Deborah

Hello Listmembers, I am new to this list and trying to trace Margaret MURRAY shown above. She married Alexander OAL in the Wick area on the 25th November 1814. The O.P.R. shows the marriage of Alexander OAL of Reiss and Margaret MURRAY of South Walls. The witnesseses were Alex Simpkin in Reiss and Joseph Murray in Louisburg. Margaret appears in the 1841 Census but the 1851 shows Alexander OAL as a widower. Any information on Margaret or her family would be greatly appreciated. Regards Stuart Saunders, Edenbridge, Kent

James - thankyou SO much!! I'll read it all properly later (about to go visit Mum-in-law), and I'll certainly get back to you about that book - it sounds terrific. Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Irvine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:04 AM Subject: [Orkney] Re: Clarks of Orkney >A few more leads for you: > NAS CC17/2/3 Testament, Janet Clark, spouse to James Bewis, in Holme, 12 > Oct 1637: see www.scotlands people.gov.uk > NAS CC17/2/5 Testament, Catherine Clark, spouse to David Ryland, in > Sangar, Shapinsay 16 May 1649. ditto > > NAS CC17/2/8 or /9 Testament, Thomas Clark and his spouse, in Walls 23 Jan > 1665. ditto > > NAS CC17/2/10 Testament, John Clark, in Sands, Shapinsay, 10 Jan 1668. > ditto > > NAS CS7/13, ff. 260-1: 12 March 1584-5 Discharge by Mr Edward Bruce, > advocate, to Michael Balfour of Montquhany, for 2000 merks, (?an > annualrent on the lands of Montquhany) and ratification of contractes > dated at Edinburgh and Montquhany, 16 and 21 May 1585, between the said > Michael and Marioun Adam, his spouse, on the one part, and the said Mr > Edward and Magdalen Clerk, his spouse, on the other, concerning the > alienation of the lands of Westray, whereby the said Mr Edward discharges > all interest he may have in them and all other lands pertaining to > Archibald Balfour of Westray to which he or his heirs may pretend > interest, with all rights and titles made by the said Archibald to the > said Michael, and will also give 'afauld and trew counsall' to the said > Michael. > > > > NAS CS15, box 31: Edinburgh, 3 October 1582: Letters of summons at > instance of Patrick Bellenden of Stenness, holding tack, undated, by > Archibald Douglas to *** of the subdeanery of Orkney, narrating that > tenants will not pay and must be summoned, in particular John Stewart and > Thomas Flemyng, both allegedly provided to the 'stallarie' of the said > subdeanery, and others having interest. With notes of execution by > William Bannatyne: on 18 December 1582 before witnesses Thomas Swinton, > minister; Alexander Robertson; Alexander ?Ure, burgess of Kirkwall; > against the said John Stewart 'pretendit subdean': on 29 December before > witnesses James Broun, younger; Magnus Prince; Walter Clerk, servitor to > Jerome Tulloch; against James Irving, Magnus Langskaill, Thomas Moir, > Alexander Broun, John Cursiter (Cursetter), Magnus Irving, Symoun ?Burn > and Jerome Tulloch, tenants: and on 23 and 30 December before witness > Thomas Fleming; against Thomas, Andro and William Lentroun; Magnus Prens! > e; Magnus Chalmer; and David Thomesoun. > > > > NAS NP1/75B f.179: Feu charter 1580 by Earl Robert to William Clark and > his spouse Mareon Chalmer, of a tenement in Cairston, "with power of > brewing and selling, keeping of ostelrie and bying of al things > appertening thairto for furnissing of commounes and utheris resorting > thairaway." Reference in Troup & Eunson 1967, 2 > > NAS PS1/54, f. 137: Charter at Kirkwall, 2 May 1580, by Lord Robert > Stewart, feuar of Orknay and Yetland, to Rany Elphingstoun of the ½d land > of 'Hamiger in Cairston, (Hammager in Kairstane), in the parish of > Stromness. With precept of sasine (in the vernacular) following > thereupon, dated at Birsay, 3 May 1580, witnessed by Mr John Duschingtoun, > William Gordoun, Thomas Robesoun, Walter Bruce, servitors of the said Lord > Robert Stewart, and instrument of sasine dated 6 June 1580, given by Mr > Jerome Tulloch, subchanter of Orkney, to the said deceased Rannald, and > afterwards at his desire, to Jonet Halcro, his spouse, in conjunct fee, > before William Fermour, notary public. Witnesses: Andrew Davidsoun in > Anstruther, Thomas Smyth, Stephen Broun, Thomas Adesoun, William Clerk, > Magnus Prince (Prence). Confirmation under the great seal, 31 March 1587. > Printed RMS, v, no. 1178; listed in Hourston Inventory, OA D20/4/16A, > no.2. Notes D20/3/12; D23/3, 231. > > NAS RH1/2/201 (19th century transcript) Gift by Duncan of Law to Donald > Clerk "in mariage as movable gude wyth Janet Law my sister" of part of a > tenement in Kirkwall, Kirkwall 6 June 1433. Abstract in Clouston 1914, > p329. > > NAS RH9/15/175/1, f.21v: Poll Tax List of Holm, c1693: James Clark, > apparently unmarried, in property owned by David Covingtree, paying rent > of 2 meils malt, worth c.£4 scots. > > OA D23/15/2 Testament dative in Walls, 24 Jan 1665 of Thomas Clark, died > Apr 1646, spouse of Janat Ronald. > > OA SC11/5/1766/026 Action, Janet Douglas against John Clark, tenant in > Holland. > OA SC11/5/1770/013 Action, John Clark, tacksman in Shapinsay against John > Laughton. > PRO B11/1420: Will dated 15 Feb 1805 of Margaret Clark, widow of Andrew > Garrioch in St.Andrews/Kirkwall. > > > If you are not familiar with terms, abbreviations or context of above my I > recommend my book "Trace Your Orkney Ancestors". Please revert to me > off-list for details. > > The attribution of the surname in Black's "The Surnames of Scotland" > (1947) says "Originally a man in a religious order, and later a scholar". > While there is a monastry in Orkney today, it moved there only in the > 1990s, I think, and I'm pretty sure there wasn't one in the 17th century, > so it seems likely the early Clarks of Orkney came, like many other > Orcadian families, from the scottish mainland. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lewis & Catherine" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:36 PM > Subject: Clarks of Orkney > > >> Hello all, I've been reading everyone's postings with interest for a >> while, now I've got one. >> >> I've traced the Clark branch of my family back to Orkney - this is as far >> as I've got - >> >> Alexander Clark born 6 Feb 1681 Holm & Paplay, married Janet McKiver >> c1680 in Thurso 28 March 1701 >> >> Alexander's parents: Donald Clark c1659 Orkney & Katherine Randall c1658 >> Orkney (don't know where exactly). >> >> Donald Clark's (1659) father, another Donald Clark was born c1635 >> Caithness. >> >> I've been told the Clark name originated because the men were clerks to >> the monks. I don't know if there were monks on Orkney in the 1600s, but >> the name must go back further than that. I think Alexander & Janet >> lived in Wick after their marriage. >> >> Is there any way of finding out anything about the clerks to the monks of >> Orkney? I know some of the "lower order" monks were clerks, and they >> were allowed to marry. Strange to think one of my ancestors might have >> been a monk! I'd appreciate any help at all. >> >> Catherine >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > This is not a commercial or "FWD the latest political or humour" list, > anyone considering posting any item that might be construed as being > commercial/political otherwise known as being "OFF TOPIC" can and will be > advised once - IF there is a second post of the same nature the subscriber > will be unsubscribed IMMEDIATELY. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. 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