Wondered if anyone on the list had information about burials in Birsay. I am looking for Robert Spence, a miller at Boardhouse Birsay who died between 1841 and 1851. He was married twice,first to Catherine Johnston and then to Isabella Whitelay/Whitelaw Fiona

That would be Narswick - not "Renwick", just FYI - Lisa {> on 10/31/05 2:37 PM <} philip booker wrote -- Dear Listers James Thomson, born 10 June 1861 at Renwick on South Ronaldsay to Donald Thomson, fisherman, and Barbara Thomson nee Gray who were wed 9 March 1858. [...] Regards Philip

Hi all, Does anyone have access to the 1861 census of Holm. I would like to know who was living at Braehead, near St. Margaret's Hope. In the 1871 census it was the family of James Brown and his wife Catherine. The page had Little Braehead, then Braehead, Upper Bull and Lower Bull. Thank you in advance. Jane __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

oops, I did not mean to write "203 hits" I meant to type: 2-3 hits ! (hit zero by mistake, sorry)

Philip - When one puts into the GROS site just the year, 1861, and not a general range of years, one gets 203 hits for a James Thomson born in Orkney.... ~~~~~~ 1 1861-THOMSON-JAMES-M- PAPA WESTRAY-ORKNEY- (ref.#)033/02 0010 2 1861-THOMSON-JAMES-M- SOUTH RONALDSAY AND BURRAY-ORKNEY- (ref.#)029/00 0041 3 1861-THOMSON- JOHN JAMES-M- KIRKWALL AND ST OLA-ORKNEY- (ref.#)021/00 0127 ~~~~~~ So, knowing from Lisa that the So Ronaldsay one is not yours (because of birthdate), you might try to log onto the GROS site and download the image for the one born on Papa Westray... it could be yours. ** on 10/31/05 12:49 PM, philip booker wrote: > Dear Listers > > Thank you for the information on James Thomson. I have been to the British > Columbia archives on Vancouver Island and also to the Vancouver Library on the > mainland and have a copy of James' death certificate aswell as death and > funeral notices and short obituaries from the newspapers. The death > certificate provided his supposed exact birth date. Both the papers and > certificate gave his birth location as Orkney. >

Dear Listers I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on the parents, ancestors and siblings of a James Thomson. James was said to have been born on 13 April 1861 in Orkney. He left there at about the age of 17 and moved to San Francisco before joining the 1898 gold rush to the Yukon. In 1903 he settled in Vancouver where he acquired property and was known for his philanthropy. He was a very fit person, noted for long distance swimming in summer and he skated in winter. James was proprietor of the Ivanhoe Hotel in Vancouver when he died on 12 December 1948. Apparently James did not marry and did not have any descendants. However he had four cousins in Vancouver and four in Oregon when he died. Regards Philip Booker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls

Philip. These are all the THOMSON listed on the Scots Origins site born or christened +/- 5 years around 1861. If you also go to www.cursiter.com that has the names of the parents, though it is not complete. Hope this helps. Suzie 1 JAMES THOMSON Date: 30 JAN 1856 2 JAMES SUTHERLAND THOMPSON Date: 19 MAR 1856 3 JAMES BRUCE THOMSON Date: 04 JAN 1857 4 JAMES THOMSON Date: 25 AUG 1857 5 JAMES CROMARTY THOMSON Date: 30 APR 1858 6 JAMES THOMPSON Date: 31 MAR 1858 7 JAMES THOMSON Date: 12 NOV 1858 8 JAMES THOMSON Date: 06 OCT 1859 9 JAMES THOMISON Date: 11 APR 1862 10 JAMES THOMISON Date: 30 DEC 1862 11 JAMES THOMSON Date: 16 SEP 1864 12 JAMES ROSS TOMISON Date: 17 JAN 1865 13 JAMES ANDREW THOMSON Date: 20 FEB 1865 14 JAMES CHARLESON THOMSON Date: 25 JUL 1866 ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip booker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: [Orkney] James Thomson Dear Listers I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on the parents, ancestors and siblings of a James Thomson. James was said to have been born on 13 April 1861 in Orkney. He left there at about the age of 17 and moved to San Francisco before joining the 1898 gold rush to the Yukon. In 1903 he settled in Vancouver where he acquired property and was known for his philanthropy. He was a very fit person, noted for long distance swimming in summer and he skated in winter. James was proprietor of the Ivanhoe Hotel in Vancouver when he died on 12 December 1948. Apparently James did not marry and did not have any descendants. However he had four cousins in Vancouver and four in Oregon when he died. Regards Philip Booker

Philip The BC archives lists James Thompson's death registration. The 1901 census only has two James in the age group - a James Thompson single b 30 Apr 1860 & a James R. Thomson married b 11 Oct 1860 . However both were born Ontario of Scot descent. I hope this helps Susanne Vital Event Death Registration Name: James Thompson Event Date: 1948 12 12 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 87 Gender: male Event Place: Vancouver Reg. Number: 1948-09-011117 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13199 GSU Microfilm Number: 2032569 1901District: BC VANCOUVER ISLAND (#3) Subdistrict: Nanaimo (City/Cité) Middle Ward E-3 Page 1 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6429 40 186 Hayso(?) Wm. M Lodger S Nov 23 1869 31 41 186 Anderson Alex M Lodger S Sep 23 1872 28 42 186 Pritchard James M Lodger M Jul 17 1861 39 43 186 Adams Amoisis(?) M Lodger S Oct 21 1871 29 44 186 Godfrey(?) William M Lodger M Jan 15 1845 56 45 186 Anderson Chas. M Lodger S Aug 12 1879 21 46 186 Thompson Wm. R.(?) M Lodger M Feb 6 1868 32 47 186 Thompson Jas. M Lodger M Apr 30 1860 40 Ont r Scot Presb Occ unreadable 10 mos $600 48 186 Black Frank M Lodger ? May 15 1865 35 49 186 Cook William M Lodger S Nov 8 1866 34 1901 Census of Canada District: BC BURRARD (#1) Subdistrict: Vancouver (City/Cité) D-4 Page 8 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6428 38 75 Thomson James R. M Head M Oct 11 1860 40 born Ontario r 39 75 Thomson Lillian M. F Wife M Oct 11 1872 28 40 75 Thomson Hattie F Daughter S May 8 1886 14 41 75 Thomson Maude F Daughter S Mar 28 1888 13 42 75 Thomson Alberta F Daughter S Aug 24 1889 11 43 75 Thomson Eliza F Mother W Jun 1826 74 44 75 Thomson Florence F Sister S Jul 8 1866 34 philip booker wrote: >Dear Listers > >I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on the parents, ancestors and siblings of a James Thomson. James was said to have been born on 13 April 1861 in Orkney. He left there at about the age of 17 and moved to San Francisco before joining the 1898 gold rush to the Yukon. In 1903 he settled in Vancouver where he acquired property and was known for his philanthropy. He was a very fit person, noted for long distance swimming in summer and he skated in winter. James was proprietor of the Ivanhoe Hotel in Vancouver when he died on 12 December 1948. > >Apparently James did not marry and did not have any descendants. However he had four cousins in Vancouver and four in Oregon when he died. > >Regards >Philip Booker > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls > > >==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > > >>>>>TIP: When replying to a message, please change the subject line of the message if you've changed the subject - this will improve our list archive and assist future researchers.<<<< >>>>> >>>>> > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > >

The "Scots Origins" site (ScotlandsPeople site?) from which Suzie derived her list below, does not appear to include every James Thomson that may exist for those birth years. I'm not sure of the parameters Suzie used for her search - maybe there is some glitch in the search engine for the GROS site? In Suzie's list, I don't even see any births for the year, 1861, at all. There was a James Thomson born on South Ronaldsay on 10 June 1861, Barswick (in South Parish), whose parents were Donald Thomson and Barbara Gray, and he is not listed in Suzie's list below. He is also not listed on Walt Custer's IGI site. I'm not sure why the GROS did not list this particular James Thomson... it's odd. He is certainly in the actual registers! Lisa {> on 10/30/05 1:51 PM <} Suzie Woodward wrote -- Philip. These are all the THOMSON listed on the Scots Origins site born or christened +/- 5 years around 1861. If you also go to www.cursiter.com that has the names of the parents, though it is not complete. Hope this helps. Suzie 1 JAMES THOMSON Date: 30 JAN 1856 2 JAMES SUTHERLAND THOMPSON Date: 19 MAR 1856 3 JAMES BRUCE THOMSON Date: 04 JAN 1857 4 JAMES THOMSON Date: 25 AUG 1857 5 JAMES CROMARTY THOMSON Date: 30 APR 1858 6 JAMES THOMPSON Date: 31 MAR 1858 7 JAMES THOMSON Date: 12 NOV 1858 8 JAMES THOMSON Date: 06 OCT 1859 9 JAMES THOMISON Date: 11 APR 1862 10 JAMES THOMISON Date: 30 DEC 1862 11 JAMES THOMSON Date: 16 SEP 1864 12 JAMES ROSS TOMISON Date: 17 JAN 1865 13 JAMES ANDREW THOMSON Date: 20 FEB 1865 14 JAMES CHARLESON THOMSON Date: 25 JUL 1866 ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip booker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: [Orkney] James Thomson Dear Listers I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on the parents, ancestors and siblings of a James Thomson. James was said to have been born on 13 April 1861 in Orkney. He left there at about the age of 17 and moved to San Francisco before joining the 1898 gold rush to the Yukon. In 1903 he settled in Vancouver where he acquired property and was known for his philanthropy. He was a very fit person, noted for long distance swimming in summer and he skated in winter. James was proprietor of the Ivanhoe Hotel in Vancouver when he died on 12 December 1948. Apparently James did not marry and did not have any descendants. However he had four cousins in Vancouver and four in Oregon when he died. Regards Philip Booker

I have an Alexander Stephen (Steven) and Katherine (Catherine) McLeod marriage. From Caithness OPR index: (1795) Alexr. Stephen in Stroma, parish of Canisbay and Katherine McLeod in Harpsdale parish of Halkirk. Contracted Febry 24th and Married March 12th. (Ref.OPRm/Canisbay 35/1/p225) Children as follows:- (1798) John son to Alexr Stephen and Catherine McLeod in Stroma born the 25th and baptised the 28 Feby. (1799) James son to Alexr. Steven and Catherine McLeod in Stroma born the 1 and baptised the 8th Decr. (1801) Janet Daughter to Alexander Steven and Cath. McLeod in Stroma born the 1st and baptised the 13th Novr. (Ref. OPRb/Canisbay 35/1/p218 (1803) George son to Alexr. Stephen and Katherine McLeod in Stroma born 25th and bapt. 30th Decr. (1806) Alexr. son to Alexr. Steven and Catherine McLeod in Stroma (born) 1st and baptd. 20th, January. (1808) Helen Daur. to Alexander Steven Catherine McLeod in the Island of Stroma, born 20th Feby. and baptd. 6th March. (1810) Donald Son to Alexander Stephen in Stroma by his wife Kathirine MacLeod. Born 25th March. Baptd. 4th April. (1812) Robert lawful son of Alexander Stephen and Catherine Mcleod in Stroma was born March 31st. Baptd. April 6th. (1814) Margaret lawful Daughter to Alex. Stephen and Catharine McLeod in Stroma born 15th and bapd.23d April. (1816) William lawful son of Alexander Stephen and Catharine McLeod, Stroma born 9 bapt. 13 June. It is likely that Alexander Stephen was dead by the time of the 1841 census as indicated below. Entry from 1841 census for Island of Stroma:- 7th June, 1841 Catharine McLeod 70 Cottager Born in county Donald Steven 25 Fisherman Born in county George Steven 20 Fisherman Born in county William Steven 20 Fisherman Born in county 1851 census:- Stroma - 31st March 1851 Catherine Steven (Head), Married, 71, Farmer of 6 acres (employing 2 servants) Born Caithness, Halkirk George Steven (Son) unmarried, 45, Farmer's son Alexr. Steven (son) unmarried, 43, Fisherman & Ag.Lab Donald Steven (son)unmarried, 38, Farm servant William Steven (son)unmarried, 34, Fisherman and Ag. Lab. The only birth I have managed to trace for Alexander Steven/Stephen (husband of Catherine McLeod) recorded in Canisbay was the son of Magnus Stephen and Helen Banks on 25th June 1767. This seems quite early for someone who married in 1804 but is possible. The other point is that there were no sons named Magnus. There are two possible Catherine McLeod births in Halkirk. The daughter of William NcLeod and Margaret Murray recorded on 12.1.1787 and also of George McLeod and Margt. McLeod on 24.3.1776. My connection to Alexander Stephen and Catherine McLeod is through their daughter Janet Stephen. Janet married William Symison and they were living at Widewall, South Ronaldsay at the time of the 1841 census. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: [Orkney] CUMMING, & Margaret STEPHEN/STEVEN from Stroma > Would anyone know the father's first name of the Margaret STEPHEN who > married Thomas CUMMING/CUMMIN on South Ronaldsay in 1839? Their marriage > register has Margaret's father's first name as "Alexander" [in 1839], but > Margaret's death register [also So. Ronaldsay, in 1898] has her father's > first name as "David". Margaret's mother's name was Catherine McLEOD. > They > were from Stoma. > > STEPHEN/STEVEN is not on Walt Custer's IGI web site (Stevenson is, > however), > so I cannot check it that way. > > Would anyone on this list know? > > > - Lisa > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>> Orkney list now has 329 subscribers <<<<< > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

kevin mccormack wrote: > Hello All, My knowledge of research in Orkney and Scotland in general is limited to say the least. Could anyone please advise me on where to apply for certs and Census returns regarding Orkney. > My main interest is a James Heddle b.1896 son of John Heddle and Janet Sinclair.Any advice much appreciated. Slán, Kevin. > Kevin McCormack, Co Cork, Ireland > Kevin, I forgot to give you a link for Walt Custer's site. The indexes are at: http://www.cursiter.com/pages/indices.htm Norman Tulloch

kevin mccormack wrote: > Hello All, My knowledge of research in Orkney and Scotland in general is limited to say the least. Could anyone please advise me on where to apply for certs and Census returns regarding Orkney. > My main interest is a James Heddle b.1896 son of John Heddle and Janet Sinclair.Any advice much appreciated. Slán, Kevin. > Kevin McCormack, Co Cork, Ireland Kevin, For certificates and censuses, go here: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ You do have to pay to use the site and to buy paper copies of certificates, though. Various publications (including census returns) are also available from the Orkney Family History Society: http://www.orkneyfhs.co.uk/ Walt Custer's site is very useful, and he does have data on the surname Heddle, though your James Heddle may be too recent to be included. Norman Tulloch

kevin mccormack wrote: > Hello All, My knowledge of research in Orkney and Scotland in general is limited to say the least. Could anyone please advise me on where to apply for certs and Census returns regarding Orkney. > My main interest is a James Heddle b.1896 son of John Heddle and Janet Sinclair.Any advice much appreciated. Slán, Kevin. > Kevin McCormack, Co Cork, Ireland Try www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - all Scottish births, deaths and marriages from 1855 are there and censuses from 1861 onwards, I believe. Cost you 6 GBP (about 10 Euros) for 30 searches. Good luck -- Mike Clouston

Hello All, My knowledge of research in Orkney and Scotland in general is limited to say the least. Could anyone please advise me on where to apply for certs and Census returns regarding Orkney. My main interest is a James Heddle b.1896 son of John Heddle and Janet Sinclair.Any advice much appreciated. Slán, Kevin. Kevin McCormack, Co Cork, Ireland

Kevin in Ireland - ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk/ is the best advice you can get - user friendly, pretty inexpensive and results are immediately viewable [downloaded images]. I'd like to remind everyone of the fimed images on permanent loan at a Family History Center which is only 8 minutes from my house, I work a shift there weekly though not a church member. Birth, Marriage and Death Registrations from 1855 through 1875, plus the 2 extra years of 1881 and 1891 are there, though many of the images are here at my pc in folders containing hundreds of the images as photocopies or digital images. The parish I've mainly studied has been Orphir, so I've gathered [only a few years left to fill out the image series] images of B, Ms and Ds from un-filmed years, so the total years of coverage would be 1855 through 1910. This is for Orphir only but has a full image of each handwritten registration. This same FHC also has all census films for these recorded Orkney censuses : 1841, 51, 61, 71, 81 and 1891. 1901 is available, on ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk/ only, its not yet been filmed by the LDS church. Some parishes have the 1821 Census results, but not all. These are available at the Orkney Family History Society for a small fee. I purchased my set of 1821 Census microfiche from the Ontario Genealogical Society about 5 years ago. If anyone would like any of these images sent as a JPG, or if you might only need the information sent to you via eMail, just write to me and ask about Orkney Registrations [so it won't be sent to a spam file]. Good luck Kevin and Good hunting ! MegG in Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Clouston wrote: > kevin mccormack wrote: > >> Hello All, My knowledge of research in Orkney and Scotland in general >> is limited to say the least. Could anyone please advise me on where >> to apply for certs and Census returns regarding Orkney. My main >> interest is a James Heddle b.1896 son of John Heddle and Janet >> Sinclair.Any advice much appreciated. Slán, Kevin. >> Kevin McCormack, Co Cork, Ireland > > Try www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - all Scottish births, deaths and > marriages from 1855 are there and censuses from 1861 onwards, I believe. > > Cost you 6 GBP (about 10 Euros) for 30 searches. > > Good luck

< replied off-list > {> on 10/30/05 4:56 AM <} Helen Emberley wrote -- I have an Alexander Stephen (Steven) and Katherine (Catherine) McLeod marriage. From Caithness OPR index:

Would anyone know the father's first name of the Margaret STEPHEN who married Thomas CUMMING/CUMMIN on South Ronaldsay in 1839? Their marriage register has Margaret's father's first name as "Alexander" [in 1839], but Margaret's death register [also So. Ronaldsay, in 1898] has her father's first name as "David". Margaret's mother's name was Catherine McLEOD. They were from Stoma. STEPHEN/STEVEN is not on Walt Custer's IGI web site (Stevenson is, however), so I cannot check it that way. Would anyone on this list know? - Lisa

----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] HEDDLE not Hedden > Does your James Heddle have a brother John b:1896 married to Joanna > Thomson. The ones I am searching are in the Walls/ Longhope area of Hoy. > His father was Hugh Omand Heddle and mother was Mary Johnston. If so, > please contact me off list > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kevin mccormack" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:15 AM > Subject: [Orkney] HEDDLE not Hedden > > >> Hello All, My apologies ......in my rush I mis spelt the name in >> question. It was supposed to read Heddle. The person in question is a >> James Heddle b. 1894 Orkney Islands. He married a Mildred Isora >> Shepherd and he subsequently emmigrated to St Thomas, Ontario, Canada. >> If anyone can help me regarding this person or surname please get in >> touch. Also, any advice on scottish certs and 1901 census would be >> most welcome. I have been informed that Scottish certs. carry a lot more >> info. than English or Irish certs. Thanks in anticipation. Kevin, Co >> Cork,ireland.. >> >> >> ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>>TIP: When replying to a message, please change the subject line of >>>>>>the message if you've changed the subject - this will improve our list >>>>>>archive and assist future researchers.<<<< >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >>>>>[email protected] In the body include only one word: >>>>>unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Does your James Heddle have a brother John b:1896 married to Joanna Thomson. The ones I am searching are in the Walls/ Longhope area of Hoy. His father was Hugh Omand Heddle and mother was Mary Johnston. If so, please contact me off list ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin mccormack" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: [Orkney] HEDDLE not Hedden > Hello All, My apologies ......in my rush I mis spelt the name in question. > It was supposed to read Heddle. The person in question is a James Heddle > b. 1894 Orkney Islands. He married a Mildred Isora Shepherd and he > subsequently emmigrated to St Thomas, Ontario, Canada. If anyone can help > me regarding this person or surname please get in touch. Also, any > advice on scottish certs and 1901 census would be most welcome. I have > been informed that Scottish certs. carry a lot more info. than English or > Irish certs. Thanks in anticipation. Kevin, Co Cork,ireland.. > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: When replying to a message, please change the subject line of the >>>>>message if you've changed the subject - this will improve our list >>>>>archive and assist future researchers.<<<< > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hello All, My apologies ......in my rush I mis spelt the name in question. It was supposed to read Heddle. The person in question is a James Heddle b. 1894 Orkney Islands. He married a Mildred Isora Shepherd and he subsequently emmigrated to St Thomas, Ontario, Canada. If anyone can help me regarding this person or surname please get in touch. Also, any advice on scottish certs and 1901 census would be most welcome. I have been informed that Scottish certs. carry a lot more info. than English or Irish certs. Thanks in anticipation. Kevin, Co Cork,ireland..