One page of Deaths from 1861 in Kirkwall. There are 3 names. Meg Greenwood #25 - Margaret COOPER, Married to David COOPER, Seaman. Died March 13, 8:30pm at Long Wynd, Kirkwall age 72y. Parents were James MUIR Store-keeper decd & Catherine MUIR ms WESTNESS decd. No cause listed, only 'no medical attendant'. Informant was John DEARNESS, Grandson, present at death. Registered Mar 13 at Kirkwall. James Craig, Registrar. #26 - Jane [?-glitch in copy] TULLOCH, single died Mar 25, 1am at Balfour Hospital, Kirkwall age 19y. Daughter of Peter TULLOCH, Farmer & Sibella TULLOCH ms THOMSON. Cause was Carditis, 12d certified by Wm Rendall, Surgeon. Informant was Anne DUNNAT, Matron of Balfour Hospital. Registered Mar 25 at Kirkwall. James Craig, Registrar. #27 - Robina FOUBISTER, illegitimate. Died March 28, 4pm at Wellington Street, Kirkwall age 6y. Parents were Robert FOUBISTER, Shoemaker & Isabella PETRIE, Seamstress. Cause was Scarlatina, 14d, Certified by Peter Flett, Surgeon. Informant was Isabella PETRIE, mother. Registered Mar 28 at Kirkwall. James Craig, Registrar. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't know how much help this is to you but Jemima Drever is my grandmother. She married Charles T. Stewart. They had one child - my mother - Adelaide Stewart. Adelaide married Finlay Williams and I am their daughter. We came to the U.S. in 1956. On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Jim Menzies wrote: This email fixes census info. My grandfather, David Douglas Menzies, was a school teacher at the elementary school in Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney between approximately 1892 to 1899. I am fortunate to have 3 pictures taken at the schoolhouse of him with the students and other teachers during this time frame. Exact years are not known, but are based on the fact that he was married in Kirkwall in 1892, and is listed on the census for Reay, Caithness in 1901 as a teacher there. In addition, there is one picture of a gentleman and three women taken by the same photographer. All the individuals in this picture are unknown. However, as these pictures were handed down from my grandparents, there would likely be some relationship to these unknown individuals, possibly school related. With the kind and generous help of Lisa at Southronaldsay.net these pictures are now posted on their site at (direct link to pictures): <http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/people- JM~032_031_021_024.html> http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/people-JM~032_031_021_024.html She has taken the time and effort to number all of the individuals in the hope that they may be identified, or that others may have these same pictures in their family album, hopefully with some names written down. To provide some help with the teachers, both Lisa and Jim have provided me with census information for teacher in the area for 1891 and 1901. This may provide some reference point for their descendants, and any knowledge of where and when their ancestors taught would be appreciated. I am not overly familiar with the locations shown, but trust their judgment. For anyone who actually lives in the area and would be willing to help, information on the location of the schoolhouse in Widewall, such as street name and present use (since its not longer used as a school) would be much appreciated. A picture of it today would be wonderful. Jim Menzies ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------------ School Teachers - Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney 1891 & 1901 Census Location Surname-First-Relation-Sex-Age -1891 (info from Jim L.) South Ronaldsay and Burray ___________________ St Mary's Hope, Schoolhouse- HEDDLE-James- M- 55 ----------------- ED3 Grimness School- CORMACK-Donald M. - M- 32 ----------------- ED3 Grimness School-TAYLOR-Maggie- F- 21 ----------------- ED5 N Sandwick/ Widewall Schoolhouse-CRUIKSHANKS-Jane- Head- widow- F- 70 ----------------- ED5 N Sandwick/ Widewall Schoolhouse-SIM-Helen W.- grdau- F- 25 ----------------- ED5 Stennisgarth-ANNAL-Peter- Head- M ----------------- ED5 Stennisgarth- ANNAL- Jeannie- dau- um- F- 25 ----------------- ED10 Barswick, Brough, Cleat & Liddle- CRUIKSHANKS- Thomas W.- Head- m-M- 43 ----------------- ED10 Schoolhouse- RICHMOND-Isabella- Head- um- F- 24 ----------------- ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse-SUMMERS-James Mackie- Head- m-M-42 ----------------- ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse-SUMMERS-Barbara- wife -m-F- 35 ----------------- ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse-DUNCAN-Mary Ann- boarded- um-F- 18 ----------------- 1901 (info from Lisa C.) source: OFHS transcription for 1901 Census, in booklet form South Ronaldsay and Burray ___________________ Knockhall, N Parish-DREVER-Jemima- dau -um-F- 21- Assistant Teacher Public School ----------------- Quoys, N Parish-HENDERSON-Mary Ann- dau- um-F - 20- Pupil Teacher Public School ----------------- Oyce, N Parish-SINCLAIR-Mary A- dau- um-F- 22- Teacher Public School ----------------- Ayre, Grimness, N Parish-DOULL-Annie- dau- um-F-18- Pupil Teacher ----------------- Biggings, East Side, St Marys-ANNAL-Lizzie- dau- um-F- 22- Teacher ----------------- The Manse, East Side, St Marys-IRVINE-JSW- Head- m-M- 61- Minister of E C Chuch of Scotland The Manse, East Side, St Marys-IRVINE-James SW- son- um-M- 22- Student of Theology ----------------- (listed whole family for this 1901 census household, even though only the head of household was the Teacher) Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-David W- Head- m-M- 43- Elementary Teacher Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-Margaret R- wife- m-F- 31 Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-John D- son- M- 3 Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-Donald J- son- M- 1 Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-Ronald A- son- M- 3 mths Widewall School, St Marys-MACKENZIE-Jane- servant- F- 19- General Servant ----------------- Midtown, St Marys- LOUTTIT-Sarah W.- dau- um- F- 23- School Teacher ----------------- Manse of St Marys, St Marys-FORBES-James- Head- m-M- 61- Minister of St Mary's ----------------- Gricegarth, St Marys-THOMSON-Mary Ann- dau- um-F- 22- School Teacher ----------------- Burwick, St Marys-ALLAN-Jessie- dau- um-F- 19- Pupil Teacher ----------------- U F C Manse, St Marys-GOODFELLOW-Alexander- Head- m-M-48- Minister UF Church ----------------- Dundas House, St Marys-CRUICKSHANK-Thomas- Head- m-M- 53- Elementary Teacher Dundas House, St Marys-CRUICKSHANK-Lizzie- dau- um-F- 20- Pupil Teacher ----------------- School House, St Marys-SIMPSON-Margaret R- Head- um-F- 46- Teacher ----------------- Old Schoolhouse, Burray (East)-RENDALL-Mary Ann-boarder- um-F- 23- Elementary Teacher ----------------- Baptiste Manse, Burray (East)- S---WRIGHT-Alexander C- Head- m-M- 34- Minister of Baptist Church ----------------- Manse, Burray (East)-SMITH-Henry- Head- m-M- 41- Minister of the Established Church ----------------- Sutherland, Burray (East)-BUDGE-Elizabeth- grdau- um-F- 18- Pupil Teacher ----------------- Skerpie, Burray (East)-SUTHERLAND-George K- son- um-M- 17- Pupil Teacher ----------------- United Free Manse, Burray (West)-BROWN-David Simpson- Head- m-M- 35- Clergyman United Free Manse, Burray (West)-WEBSTER-David- visitor- m-M- 69- Clergyman ----------------- Little Cot, Burray (West)-BUDGE-Isabella- sister- um-F-52- School Janitor ----------------- ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>> TIP: When replying to a message, please change the subject line of >>>> the message if you've changed the subject - this will improve our >>>> list archive and assist future researchers.<<<< ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. 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This email fixes census info. My grandfather, David Douglas Menzies, was a school teacher at the elementary school in Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney between approximately 1892 to 1899. I am fortunate to have 3 pictures taken at the schoolhouse of him with the students and other teachers during this time frame. Exact years are not known, but are based on the fact that he was married in Kirkwall in 1892, and is listed on the census for Reay, Caithness in 1901 as a teacher there. In addition, there is one picture of a gentleman and three women taken by the same photographer. All the individuals in this picture are unknown. However, as these pictures were handed down from my grandparents, there would likely be some relationship to these unknown individuals, possibly school related. With the kind and generous help of Lisa at Southronaldsay.net these pictures are now posted on their site at (direct link to pictures): <http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/people-JM~032_031_021_024.html> http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/people-JM~032_031_021_024.html She has taken the time and effort to number all of the individuals in the hope that they may be identified, or that others may have these same pictures in their family album, hopefully with some names written down. To provide some help with the teachers, both Lisa and Jim have provided me with census information for teacher in the area for 1891 and 1901. This may provide some reference point for their descendants, and any knowledge of where and when their ancestors taught would be appreciated. I am not overly familiar with the locations shown, but trust their judgment. For anyone who actually lives in the area and would be willing to help, information on the location of the schoolhouse in Widewall, such as street name and present use (since its not longer used as a school) would be much appreciated. A picture of it today would be wonderful. Jim Menzies ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------ School Teachers - Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney 1891 & 1901 Census Location Surname-First-Relation-Sex-Age -1891 (info from Jim L.) South Ronaldsay and Burray ___________________ St Mary's Hope, Schoolhouse- HEDDLE-James- M- 55 ----------------- ED3 Grimness School- CORMACK-Donald M. - M- 32 ----------------- ED3 Grimness School-TAYLOR-Maggie- F- 21 ----------------- ED5 N Sandwick/ Widewall Schoolhouse-CRUIKSHANKS-Jane- Head- widow- F- 70 ----------------- ED5 N Sandwick/ Widewall Schoolhouse-SIM-Helen W.- grdau- F- 25 ----------------- ED5 Stennisgarth-ANNAL-Peter- Head- M ----------------- ED5 Stennisgarth- ANNAL- Jeannie- dau- um- F- 25 ----------------- ED10 Barswick, Brough, Cleat & Liddle- CRUIKSHANKS- Thomas W.- Head- m-M- 43 ----------------- ED10 Schoolhouse- RICHMOND-Isabella- Head- um- F- 24 ----------------- ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse-SUMMERS-James Mackie- Head- m-M-42 ----------------- ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse-SUMMERS-Barbara- wife -m-F- 35 ----------------- ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse-DUNCAN-Mary Ann- boarded- um-F- 18 ----------------- 1901 (info from Lisa C.) source: OFHS transcription for 1901 Census, in booklet form South Ronaldsay and Burray ___________________ Knockhall, N Parish-DREVER-Jemima- dau -um-F- 21- Assistant Teacher Public School ----------------- Quoys, N Parish-HENDERSON-Mary Ann- dau- um-F - 20- Pupil Teacher Public School ----------------- Oyce, N Parish-SINCLAIR-Mary A- dau- um-F- 22- Teacher Public School ----------------- Ayre, Grimness, N Parish-DOULL-Annie- dau- um-F-18- Pupil Teacher ----------------- Biggings, East Side, St Marys-ANNAL-Lizzie- dau- um-F- 22- Teacher ----------------- The Manse, East Side, St Marys-IRVINE-JSW- Head- m-M- 61- Minister of E C Chuch of Scotland The Manse, East Side, St Marys-IRVINE-James SW- son- um-M- 22- Student of Theology ----------------- (listed whole family for this 1901 census household, even though only the head of household was the Teacher) Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-David W- Head- m-M- 43- Elementary Teacher Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-Margaret R- wife- m-F- 31 Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-John D- son- M- 3 Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-Donald J- son- M- 1 Widewall School, St Marys-CORMACK-Ronald A- son- M- 3 mths Widewall School, St Marys-MACKENZIE-Jane- servant- F- 19- General Servant ----------------- Midtown, St Marys- LOUTTIT-Sarah W.- dau- um- F- 23- School Teacher ----------------- Manse of St Marys, St Marys-FORBES-James- Head- m-M- 61- Minister of St Mary's ----------------- Gricegarth, St Marys-THOMSON-Mary Ann- dau- um-F- 22- School Teacher ----------------- Burwick, St Marys-ALLAN-Jessie- dau- um-F- 19- Pupil Teacher ----------------- U F C Manse, St Marys-GOODFELLOW-Alexander- Head- m-M-48- Minister UF Church ----------------- Dundas House, St Marys-CRUICKSHANK-Thomas- Head- m-M- 53- Elementary Teacher Dundas House, St Marys-CRUICKSHANK-Lizzie- dau- um-F- 20- Pupil Teacher ----------------- School House, St Marys-SIMPSON-Margaret R- Head- um-F- 46- Teacher ----------------- Old Schoolhouse, Burray (East)-RENDALL-Mary Ann-boarder- um-F- 23- Elementary Teacher ----------------- Baptiste Manse, Burray (East)- S---WRIGHT-Alexander C- Head- m-M- 34- Minister of Baptist Church ----------------- Manse, Burray (East)-SMITH-Henry- Head- m-M- 41- Minister of the Established Church ----------------- Sutherland, Burray (East)-BUDGE-Elizabeth- grdau- um-F- 18- Pupil Teacher ----------------- Skerpie, Burray (East)-SUTHERLAND-George K- son- um-M- 17- Pupil Teacher ----------------- United Free Manse, Burray (West)-BROWN-David Simpson- Head- m-M- 35- Clergyman United Free Manse, Burray (West)-WEBSTER-David- visitor- m-M- 69- Clergyman ----------------- Little Cot, Burray (West)-BUDGE-Isabella- sister- um-F-52- School Janitor -----------------

Evelyn- Would you know if your grandmother taught school on South Ronaldsay during the [latter part of the] time period of 1892-1899?? I see that "Pupil Teachers" were often of the ages of 17-23, and your grandmother would have been approximately... age 17 to 19 during the years of 1897-1899? What Jim Menzies and I are wondering is if your grandmother could be one of the 3 or so women teachers shown in his photos -- and also if you yourself have any family photos relating to the South Ronaldsay school with names attached to same (so that Jim can possibly figure out if anyone matches between your photos and his). - Lisa {> on 11/9/05 3:56 PM <} Evelyn Hlabse wrote -- I don't know how much help this is to you but Jemima Drever is my grandmother. She married Charles T. Stewart. They had one child - my mother - Adelaide Stewart. Adelaide married Finlay Williams and I am their daughter. We came to the U.S. in 1956. On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Jim Menzies wrote: This email fixes census info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------------ School Teachers - Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney 1891 & 1901 Census Location- Surname-First-Relation-Sex-Age 1901 (info from Lisa C.) source: OFHS transcription for 1901 Census, in booklet form South Ronaldsay and Burray ___________________ Knockhall, N Parish-DREVER-Jemima- dau -um-F- 21- Assistant Teacher Public School -----------------

My grandfather, David Douglas Menzies, was a school teacher at the elementary school in Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney between approximately 1892 to 1899. I am fortunate to have 3 pictures taken at the schoolhouse of him with the students and other teachers during this time frame. Exact years are not known, but are based on the fact that he was married in Kirkwall in 1892, and is listed on the census for Reay, Caithness in 1901 as a teacher there. In addition, there is one picture of a gentleman and three women taken by the same photographer. All the individuals in this picture are unknown. However, as these pictures were handed down from my grandparents, there would likely be some relationship to these unknown individuals, possibly school related. With the kind and generous help of Lisa at Southronaldsay.net these pictures are now posted on their site at (direct link to pictures): http://www.southronaldsay.net/1821/notes/people-JM~032_031_021_024.html She has taken the time and effort to number all of the individuals in the hope that they may be identified, or that others may have these same pictures in their family album, hopefully with some names written down. To provide some help with the teachers, both Lisa and Jim have provided me with census information for teacher in the area for 1891 and 1901. This may provide some reference point for their descendants, and any knowledge of where and when their ancestors taught would be appreciated. I am not overly familiar with the locations shown, but trust their judgment. Jim Menzies School Teachers - Widewall, South Ronaldsay, Orkney 1891 & 1901 Census Location Surname First Relation Sex Age 1891 South Ronaldsay and Burray St Mary's Hope, Schoolhouse HEDDLE James M 55 ED3 Grimness School CORMACK Donald M. M 32 ED3 Grimness School TAYLOR Maggie F 21 ED5 N Sandwick/ Widewall Schoolhouse CRUIKSHANKS Jane Head wdiow F 70 ED5 N Sandwick/ Widewall Schoolhouse SIM Helen W. grdau F 25 ED5 Stennisgarth ANNAL Peter head M ED5 Stennisgarth ANNAL Jeannie dau um F 25 ED10 Barswick, Brough, Cleat & Liddle CRUIKSHANKS Thomas W. head m M 43 ED10 Schoolhouse RICHMOND Isabella Head um F 24 ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse SUMMERS James Mackie Head m M 42 ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse SUMMERS Barbara wife m F 35 ED12 West Burray Schoolhouse DUNCAN Mary Ann boarded um F 18 1901 South Ronaldsay and Burray source: OFHS transcription for 1901 Census, in booklet form Knockhall, N Parish DREVER Jemima dau um F 21 Quoys, N Parish HENDERSON Mary Ann dau um F 20 Oyce, N Parish SINCLAIR Mary A dau um F 22 Ayre, Grimness, N Parish DOULL Annie dau um F 18 Biggings, East Side, St Marys ANNAL Lizzie dau um F 22 The Manse, East Die, St Marys IRVINE JSW head m M 61 The Manse, East Die, St Marys IRVINE James SW son um M 22 Widewall School, St Marys CORMACK David W head m M 43 Widewall School, St Marys CORMACK Margaret R wife m F 31 Widewall School, St Marys CORMACK John D son M 3 Widewall School, St Marys CORMACK Donald J son M 1 Widewall School, St Marys CORMACK Ronald A son M 3 mths Widewall School, St Marys MACKENZIE Jane servant F 19 Midtwon, St Marys LOUTTIT Sarah W. dau um F 23 Manse of St Marys, St Marys FORBESE James SW head m M 61 Gricegarth, St Marys THOMSON Mary Ann dau um F 22 Burwick, St Marys ALLAN Jessie dau um F 19 U F C Manse, St Marys GOODFELLOW Alexander head m M 48 Dundas House, St Marys CRUICKSHANK Thomas head m M 53 Dundas House, St Marys CRUICKSHANK Lizzie dau um F 20 School House, St Marys SIMPSON Margaret R head um F 46 Old Schoolhouse, Burray (East) RENDALL Mary Ann boarder um F 23 Baptiste Manse, Burray (East) S---WRIGHT Alexander C head m M 34 Manse, Burray (East) SMITH Henry head m M 41 Sutherland, Burray (East) BUDGE Elizabeth grdau um F 18 Skerpie, Burray (East) SUTHERLAND George K son um M 17 United Free Manse, Burray (West) BROWN David Simpson head m M 35 United Free Manse, Burray (West) WEBSTER David visitor m M 35 Little Cot, Burray (West) BUDGE Isabella sister um F 52

Got this from from the Suffolk-L @ rootsweb. Anyone interested in taking part in this? Researching e-Genealogy A PhD study is underway at the Robert Gordon University, Aberdeen, examining Internet family history resources and their users. This will investigate the users themselves, how users view both e-genealogical resources and libraries, and how these resources are used within the research process. An eventual aim of the project is to highlight methods of promoting the "added value" of UK Local Studies Library Collections, increasing their visibility to users online. The research also aims to identify, categorise and examine the available resources: developing specific evaluative criteria and promoting increased awareness and understanding within the library community in order to maintain a quality level of service for genealogical researchers in libraries. The first stage of the project is a 5-minute online survey, available at http://www.researchingegenealogy.co.uk. This hopes to gather more information about anyone accessing UK information online for their family history research. I would be grateful if you could pass to any potentially interested parties. If you require any further information, please contact [email protected] Kind regards, Kate Friday *********************************************************** Kate Friday Research Student Dept of Information Management Aberdeen Business School Robert Gordon University Garthdee Road ABERDEEN AB10 7QE Tel. (01224) 263967 *********************************************************** Marion Web pages at www.btinternet.com/~marion.mcleod http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/l/Marion-A-Mcleod www.photobox.co.uk/[email protected]

Hello listers in Orkney, I read on The Orcadian web page and heard on BBC Radio Orkney this morning that the Old Schoolhouse in St. Andrews suffered serious fire damage last night. My mother was born in the Old Schoolhouse in September 1912. If anyone can get close enough to get a photo or two of what is left, without endangering life or limb, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks -- Mike Clouston

Just today received an informative post from the CRAWFORD-L List about Brigham Young University's online collection of books, especially ones linked to the LDS church's new digitization project. The Post was full of good information on the project. Bottom line is that you can search for and view NOW some of the books that have been digitized. One such book is : Tate/Tait family history : from the Orkney's to Canada, 1696-2002 by Jackie Hobbs Found it by using the Geographic search box and entering the single word Orkney. There was only this one hit for that search. I've already gotten that film into the local FHC, but its not a good filming, this far exceeds it in quality. When the book description comes up, click on the typed title, its a hyperlink which will set up the book for viewing. Navigate the pages by using the clickable links at the left of the page images, . You can zoom in if needed, I didn't see pixelation on the map of Orphir until I'd zoomed in quite a bit. To use the BYU search page go here : http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ To read the entire Post on the digitization project, go to the CRAWFORD archived messages and look at the most recent offering, its for Nov 6 and is from Wanda Harbert who had passed along the message from Ronald on another List. Ronald explains why BYU has some books available now, what to expect in the near future and how to use the site. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CRAWFORD/ Note that on page 14 of the TAIT book is a photograph of Naversdale in Orphir. That is a farm name from another book about the Orphir area, "Memories of an Orkney Family" by Harriet Groundwater pub 1967. I have it on my website because of the dedicated transcription efforts of Mike Clouston. At 43 pages, its 1/10th of the TAIT book's 425 pages which are printable from versions found just after the 'Index' along the left of the book images. The Harriet Groundwater book isn't in the LDS collection, so it won't be digitized. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA

Thanks everyone for your help. It is greatly appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] place name > Mike > I have to agree with you, the Pomona crisps were wonderful - pity they > stopped making them. We used to buy loads of them to take back home with us when > ever we were in Orkney. > Fiona > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > >>>>TIP: To search the archives of this list go to http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ORKNEY on the next page enter your search word(s) and select the year click the submit query button<<<< > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

[email protected] wrote: > Mike > I have to agree with you, the Pomona crisps were wonderful - pity they > stopped making them. We used to buy loads of them to take back home with us when > ever we were in Orkney. > Fiona I know this has nothing to do with genealogy, but I remember the Pomona crisps from over 50 years ago when I was still in short trousers! The factory closed down at some point but it was re-opened and I can remember getting some when I was home on holiday several years ago, and they were just as I remembered them. Sadly the factory closed again and I doubt it will ever open again. :-( -- Mike Clouston

Norman Tulloch wrote: > > > Liz wrote: >> Hi All, >> I have an ancestor who according to the 1881 census was born in >> Pomona Orkney, but everything I have found about her says that she >> was born in Stromness. Unfortunately my geography knowledge is not >> great and I have never heard of somewhere called Pomona. please can >> SKS enlighten me a bit. >> thanks in anticipation >> Liz Langmann ( Campbell) >> Cape Town South Africa > > Liz, > > Pomona is just an alternative name for the largest of the Orkney > Islands that is usually called Mainland. Here's what Sigurd Towrie says: > > "The principal island is now simply referred to as "the Mainland" - a > corruption of the Old Norse "Meginland". The island was originally > referred to as "Hrossey" - "Horse Island" in Old Norse. The erroneous > name "Pomona" can still sometimes be seen on the occasional modern map > but this stems from a seventeenth century cartographical error and has > never been used by Orcadians." > > Source here: http://www.orkneyjar.com/orkney/ > > Norman Tulloch Mind you, there's still the Pomona Inn in Finstown and there used to be Pomona Crisps (Chips to our American cousins) which were delicious, even though they were made in Kirkwall :-)) -- Mike Clouston

Hi All, I have an ancestor who according to the 1881 census was born in Pomona Orkney, but everything I have found about her says that she was born in Stromness. Unfortunately my geography knowledge is not great and I have never heard of somewhere called Pomona. please can SKS enlighten me a bit. thanks in anticipation Liz Langmann ( Campbell) Cape Town South Africa

Liz wrote: > Hi All, > I have an ancestor who according to the 1881 census was born in Pomona Orkney, but everything I have found about her says that she was born in Stromness. Unfortunately my geography knowledge is not great and I have never heard of somewhere called Pomona. please can SKS enlighten me a bit. > thanks in anticipation > Liz Langmann ( Campbell) > Cape Town South Africa Liz, Pomona is just an alternative name for the largest of the Orkney Islands that is usually called Mainland. Here's what Sigurd Towrie says: "The principal island is now simply referred to as "the Mainland" - a corruption of the Old Norse "Meginland". The island was originally referred to as "Hrossey" - "Horse Island" in Old Norse. The erroneous name "Pomona" can still sometimes be seen on the occasional modern map but this stems from a seventeenth century cartographical error and has never been used by Orcadians." Source here: http://www.orkneyjar.com/orkney/ Norman Tulloch

I'm pretty sure that Pomona is the name of the mainland of Orkney - I'm almost positive on this one. On Nov 6, 2005, at 4:05 AM, Liz wrote: Hi All, I have an ancestor who according to the 1881 census was born in Pomona Orkney, but everything I have found about her says that she was born in Stromness. Unfortunately my geography knowledge is not great and I have never heard of somewhere called Pomona. please can SKS enlighten me a bit. thanks in anticipation Liz Langmann ( Campbell) Cape Town South Africa ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>> TIP: When replying to a message, please change the subject line of >>>> the message if you've changed the subject - this will improve our >>>> list archive and assist future researchers.<<<< ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Evelyn S. Hlabse 26654 White Way Drive Richmond Heights, OH 44143-1120 216 261 8959

Mike I have to agree with you, the Pomona crisps were wonderful - pity they stopped making them. We used to buy loads of them to take back home with us when ever we were in Orkney. Fiona

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I would like to thank all those that contributed to my enquiry regarding thename Heddle. I have passed on all the information to the lady concerned in Canada. Many thanks and Best regards,kevin. Kevin McCormack, Co Cork, Ireland

Dear Listers Thank you for the extra information. I have just checked on the Scotlandspeople site and have found four James Thomson born between 1860 and 1862 in Orkney. Unfortunately none have the exact birthdate listed on my James' death certificate and thus the birth date may be incorrect. Also, I can't see any link yet to the other families I mentioned. The details I found were as follows:- James Thomson, born 10 August 1860 on Hoy to James Thomson, blacksmith, and Charlotte (couldn't read maiden name). James Thomson, born 10 June 1861 at Renwick on South Ronaldsay to Donald Thomson, fisherman, and Barbara Thomson nee Gray who were wed 9 March 1858. James Thomson, born 5 October 1861 at Holland on Papa Westray to John Thomson, ploughman, and Elizabeth Thomson nee Mackay who were wed on 24 October (year looks like 1867 but couldn't be). John James Thomson, born 20 November 1861 in Papdale Kirkwall to James Thomson, farmer, and Jane Thomson nee Sinclair who were wed on 7 January 1847 on Sanday. To use up my credits I also gathered the following records:- Births of Edwin Alexander Slater and Isabella Mary Slater to Edward Scollery Slater and Clementina Cobban Smith. Marriages of George Robert G. Meil to Frances Irvine Smith and of Robert G. Gilchrist Cusiter to Catherine Reid Mackenzie. These events occurred in Glasgow and Aberdeen but are of Orkney families. I can supply the rest of the details if anyone is interested. I'll now be off-line for a few days. Regards Philip Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Dear Listers Thank you for the information on James Thomson. I have been to the British Columbia archives on Vancouver Island and also to the Vancouver Library on the mainland and have a copy of James' death certificate aswell as death and funeral notices and short obituaries from the newspapers. The death certificate provided his supposed exact birth date. Both the papers and certificate gave his birth location as Orkney. The informant for his death was a cousin of 1038 Main Street in Vancouver but her signature is hard to decipher. She was Laura E. and then the surname ends in 'cadden'. It could be Carlcadden. There is a link between James and a descendant of the Cusiter, Smith (Alexander Smith of Rendall) and Macgregor families from Orkney but whether it is a blood relationship or just one of friendship, I don't know. There is a Will listed in the BC archives but the archivists were unable to locate it, possibly because it was disproved. regards Philip --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Listen to over 20 online radio stations and watch over 5000 music videos on Yahoo! Music.

Likely Carscadden Blake ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip booker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [Orkney] James Thomson origins > Dear Listers > > Thank you for the information on James Thomson. I have been to the British > Columbia archives on Vancouver Island and also to the Vancouver Library on > the mainland and have a copy of James' death certificate aswell as death > and funeral notices and short obituaries from the newspapers. The death > certificate provided his supposed exact birth date. Both the papers and > certificate gave his birth location as Orkney. > > The informant for his death was a cousin of 1038 Main Street in Vancouver > but her signature is hard to decipher. She was Laura E. and then the > surname ends in 'cadden'. It could be Carlcadden. > > There is a link between James and a descendant of the Cusiter, Smith > (Alexander Smith of Rendall) and Macgregor families from Orkney but > whether it is a blood relationship or just one of friendship, I don't > know. There is a Will listed in the BC archives but the archivists were > unable to locate it, possibly because it was disproved. > > regards > Philip > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Listen to over 20 online radio stations and watch over 5000 music videos > on Yahoo! Music. > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > SPAM - best advice.. DELETE it. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005 > >