The above was MP for Orkney and Shetland from 1922 to 1935. Where could I get information about him and his family? He was married to Gertrude Williamson, daughter of John Williamson, 1843-1888, Grain Merchant in Kirkwall. It is she that I am really interested ingetting more info. on. She died in Edinburgh in 1964, but is recorded on a gravestone in St. Magnus kirkyard.I do not know if she was buried in Kirkwall or where her husband is buried. TIA Archie Gilbert, Kinross.

Here are some registrations that have been procured in Edinburgh. Will Post the basics, anyone wishing more information, please contact me personally. Meg Greenwood 1902 Deaths in Evie Rendall #7 - Margaret HALCRO, Widow of Chas HALCRO, Farmer. Died May 14 at Rendall aged 69y daughter of Thomas JOHNSTON & Isabella JOHNSTON ms YORSTON. Informant was James HALCRO. #8 - William MILLAR, Farmer married to Magdalene RENDALL. Died June 6 at Rendall, son of Johh MILLAR, Farmer & Rebecca MILLAR ms CORRIGALL. Informant was Wm MILLAR. #9 - David WOOD, formerly Fisherman, single. died June 28 at Evie aged 36y son of Wm WOOD, Fisherman & Mary WOOD ms HARPER. Informant was James BAIKIE. 1919 Deaths in Orphir #4 - Margaret SINCLAIR, Widow of James SINCLAIR, Mason. Died 3 May, Orphir age 85y, son of Benjamin Halcro, Farmer & Cecilia HALCRO ms TAIT. Informant was Williamina MACDONALD. #5 - Jemima Thomson SINCLAIR, Widow of John Garson SINCLAIR, Fisherman. Died 7 May, Orphir age 72y, daughter of James CLOUSTON, Farmer & Cecilia CLOUSTON ms LEASK. Informant J. R. SINCLAIR residing 54 Kirkoswald Rd, Maybole [Ayrshire]. #6 - George FLETT, Crofter married to Barbara WILSON. Died May 31at Orphir age 80y, son of Peter FLETT, Mason and Jane FLETT ms WILSON. Informant was Robert W. FLETT. 1922 Deaths in Kirkwall [very light copy, hard to read] #46 - George SMITH, Fisherman married to Jessie COWIE. Died Aug 14 at Kirkwall age 72y son of John SMITH, Fisherman and Lydia SMITH ms REID. Informant was Jos SMITH. #47 - Anne WISHART married to James WISHART, Joiner. Died Aug 15 at Kirkwall, aged 56y daughter of Andrew WILSON, Farmer & Mary WILSON ms NORN. Informant was the husband. #48 - William James HALCROW, Officer Mercantile Marine, Pensioner, married to Agnes BROWN. Died Aug 23 at Kirkwall usual residence Edinburgh aged 30y son of William HALCROW, Ship's Steward & Elizabeth HALCROW ms DUNNET. Informant was his father, William HALCROW. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, that wasn't supposed to go to the List, it was aimed at Australia. Drat ! I didn't want to have it look like I forgot if Sharon got an answer. Nevermind......I can pretend this wasn't posted either. MegG

Sharon - I came across this in the file I keep for interesting posts - did you ever get a response or an answer to your query ? I've got the full 1861 Census for Orkney which includes Evie which isn't very large. I could find a listing which seems to say 'Merdies' for you. Its been many moons since you posted this, but I can't remember if you've found what you need. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:54:30 +1000, original message : >Hi folks > >I have just joined the list in the hope that someone with local knowledge >can help me. > >I have found that an ancestor of mine (from Aberdeenshire) was declared a >fugitive in 1858. When he was tried in Edinburgh in 1860, his address was >given as Merdies, Evie, Ornkey. Since he was more than likely travelling >with a wife and young daughter, and on the return route his wife would have >been pregnant, I am thinking that he may have gone to stay with relatives or >friends in Evie. > >With this thought in mind I hired the 1861 census for Evie hoping to find >Merdies and to see who was living there. Today I was disappointed since I >could find no town, or farm, by that name. > >Is there anyone on the list who recognises this town or placename or could >suggest anywhere I would look to find its location. > >Thank you in advance >Sharon (in Australia) > > >==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: When when posting your research interests, include the surnames in your subject line - this will improve our list archive and assist future researchers.<<<< > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

The book is Pateus Amicis: The Story of the House of Graemeshall in Orkney, by Patrick Sutherland-Graeme, the 9th Laird, published in 1936, pp64, A5, illustrated. The only picture of the servants, dated "prior to 1874", faces p10. The book is rare, but a copy comes up at the Auction Mart Sale most years, going for £14-£42. There are two other excellent books on the estate/parish: An Orkney Estate: Improvement at Graemeshall 1827-1888 by Gilbert Schrank, 1995, pp131 A5, illustrated (part of the same picture of the servants appears on the front cover), and A More Enterprising Spirit: The Parish and People of Holm in 18th Century Orkney by Sheena Wenham, 2001, pp352, A5, illustrated. The latter is still in print, available from www.orcadian.co.uk for £16.95 + p&p. Graemeshall is 1/2 km NE of the northernmost of the Churchill Barriers that connect the South Isles with the Mainland of Orkney, grid reference HY487017. Find www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap , tick "Proceed" at the bottom of their first page, and enter this reference in "Search" at the top of their second page. James Irvine ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Orkney] Grahame hall It is Graemeshall (all one word) House. My wife and I went there for a visit earlier this year and found it really interesting. It is now full of a large private collection of antiques collected by Norrie Wood over his lifetime. There is a book about the previous occupants of the house including pictures of servants. Can't remember the name of the author at the moment but I'm sure somebody will come back to you with that information. If not, contact me and I will find out for you. Jim Corse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:00 AM Subject: Grahame hall > My cousin just asked about Grahame hall: "I am curious as to the names > of the owner and his family of Grahame hall where my grandparents worked > before coming to Canada in 1912." > > Does anyone know anything about this location? > > Thanks, > Darryl > > ______________________________

I would like to make contact with the descendants of Nowell G. L. Barnard born 26 May 1913 in Orkney. I believe we are related. Blake Allan, Victoria BC

Hello all Can anyone help me with these queries please, as I am trying to fill in some of my gaps? I have Rev Wm Anderson in the 1861 census at "the Manse" Walls. I assume that would be the Church of Scotland or would it be referring to the Free Church? Which physical church would it be referring to - St John's at North Ness, Walls? Are there any other churches in Walls? If so where are they located? Where would the Manse have been situated, is it still in existance? and lastly ... to which church is the Osmundwall cemetery affiliated? Thank you. Regards to the list Susan ________________________ Susan Simmons searching for: Wright, Hughes & Kellett in India Wright, Donaldson, Bain, Green & Dunnett in Caithness Wright & Anderson in Orkney

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It is Graemeshall (all one word) House. My wife and I went there for a visit earlier this year and found it really interesting. It is now full of a large private collection of antiques collected by Norrie Wood over his lifetime. There is a book about the previous occupants of the house including pictures of servants. Can't remember the name of the author at the moment but I'm sure somebody will come back to you with that information. If not, contact me and I will find out for you. Jim Corse

My cousin just asked about Grahame hall: "I am curious as to the names of the owner and his family of Grahame hall where my grandparents worked before coming to Canada in 1912." Does anyone know anything about this location? Thanks, Darryl

Hi Jim, Canno thelp you with you rquery but thought you might like this site as it has 1841 census for Orkney and maybe of assistance to you. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/ Regards Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Menzies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: [Orkney] Blacks Hotel - George M Black > I am enquiring about Black's Hotel located on Ayre in Kirkwall, and looking > for possible descendants of George M Black who was the owner of the hotel in > 1892. > > I understand that this is currently the Ayre Hotel, and I have emailed them > but have not received a response confirming whether this is the same hotel. > I have been told by what I believe is a reliable source, that they are the > same place. > > The 1881 census show the following: > > Ayre 16 > George M Black - Head - m - 52 - temp hotel keeper, working on own account > x, Bauffshire, Bohaus? > ???? Black - wife - m - 49 - temp hotel keeper, Aberdeen > Betsy Thomson - serv - unmarried - house maid domestic - Orkney, Linghope > > I have an unidentified picture that was taken by John B. Russell, King > Street, Kirkwall. > > The connection to this hotel and George Black is that my grandparents, David > Douglas Menzies and Alison Thomson Kirk, were married there in 1892, and one > of the witnesses was George M. Black, the owner of the hotel. I am thus > wondering if this by chance, is his picture. > > For those who may be researching people, the other witness at their wedding > was Alexander Horne. > > According to the 1881 censuses for Orkney for Alexander Horne, there are two > shown. One appears to be the father and the other the son. > The son was a board school teacher, as was my grandfather David Menzies. > This Alexander Horne lived at Nasbister? School House, Rousay > > There is also the possibilty that this is a picture of him. I would suspect > that George Black, being married, would have had his wife in the picture as > well, but this is only speculation. > > I have a scan of the picture for anyone interested or who think they could > possibly identify this person. > > Regards > Jim Menzies > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > >>>>List Rule: Do not post regarding Virus, Infected E-mails or Spam > Many worms, trojans, or viruses forge (copy) the "From" e-mail address, making them appear to come from someone you know (such as RootsWeb.com). Or, they may have a file name that would make it look like a legitimate e-mail address. Spam, or an infected e-mail might indicate a message came from RootsWeb.com, or from a mailing list at RootsWeb.com, when it didn't. An infected computer is sending these forged messages to you privately. RootsWeb.com cannot prevent these forgeries, nor the bounces for failed deliveries > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11-Nov-05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11-Nov-05

Jim, I think you are referring to the 1891 census for Kirkwall rather than the 1881 census. If it helps any John B Russell was a photographer in Kirkwall from 1878 -1892. The Ayre Hotel is changing hands this week so that could be the reason for not receiving a reply. I would be delighted to have a scan of the picture and will check with the Kirkwall Library Photographic archives to see if they can help. George Gray, Orkney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Menzies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: [Orkney] Blacks Hotel - George M Black >I am enquiring about Black's Hotel located on Ayre in Kirkwall, and looking > for possible descendants of George M Black who was the owner of the hotel > in > 1892. > > I understand that this is currently the Ayre Hotel, and I have emailed > them > but have not received a response confirming whether this is the same > hotel. > I have been told by what I believe is a reliable source, that they are the > same place. > > The 1881 census show the following: > > Ayre 16 > George M Black - Head - m - 52 - temp hotel keeper, working on own account > x, Bauffshire, Bohaus? > ???? Black - wife - m - 49 - temp hotel keeper, Aberdeen > Betsy Thomson - serv - unmarried - house maid domestic - Orkney, Linghope > > I have an unidentified picture that was taken by John B. Russell, King > Street, Kirkwall. > > The connection to this hotel and George Black is that my grandparents, > David > Douglas Menzies and Alison Thomson Kirk, were married there in 1892, and > one > of the witnesses was George M. Black, the owner of the hotel. I am thus > wondering if this by chance, is his picture. > > For those who may be researching people, the other witness at their > wedding > was Alexander Horne. > > According to the 1881 censuses for Orkney for Alexander Horne, there are > two > shown. One appears to be the father and the other the son. > The son was a board school teacher, as was my grandfather David Menzies. > This Alexander Horne lived at Nasbister? School House, Rousay > > There is also the possibilty that this is a picture of him. I would > suspect > that George Black, being married, would have had his wife in the picture > as > well, but this is only speculation. > > I have a scan of the picture for anyone interested or who think they could > possibly identify this person. > > Regards > Jim Menzies > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>List Rule: Do not post regarding Virus, Infected E-mails or Spam > Many worms, trojans, or viruses forge (copy) the "From" e-mail address, > making them appear to come from someone you know (such as RootsWeb.com). > Or, they may have a file name that would make it look like a legitimate > e-mail address. Spam, or an infected e-mail might indicate a message came > from RootsWeb.com, or from a mailing list at RootsWeb.com, when it didn't. > An infected computer is sending these forged messages to you privately. > RootsWeb.com cannot prevent these forgeries, nor the bounces for failed > deliveries > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Ys, you are correct, it was the 1891 census, I will send the picture direct in a separate email. I did some looking up of the photogrpaher, John b. Russell in Kirkwall and he and his family were there in 1881 cenusus but nowhere to be found in all of Orkney in 1891 census. Thus I am assuming the picture was taken pre 1891 if this is any help. Jim Menzies -----Original Message----- From: George Gray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Orkney] Blacks Hotel - George M Black Jim, I think you are referring to the 1891 census for Kirkwall rather than the 1881 census. If it helps any John B Russell was a photographer in Kirkwall from 1878 -1892. The Ayre Hotel is changing hands this week so that could be the reason for not receiving a reply. I would be delighted to have a scan of the picture and will check with the Kirkwall Library Photographic archives to see if they can help. George Gray, Orkney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Menzies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: [Orkney] Blacks Hotel - George M Black >I am enquiring about Black's Hotel located on Ayre in Kirkwall, and looking > for possible descendants of George M Black who was the owner of the hotel > in > 1892. > > I understand that this is currently the Ayre Hotel, and I have emailed > them > but have not received a response confirming whether this is the same > hotel. > I have been told by what I believe is a reliable source, that they are the > same place. > > The 1881 census show the following: > > Ayre 16 > George M Black - Head - m - 52 - temp hotel keeper, working on own account > x, Bauffshire, Bohaus? > ???? Black - wife - m - 49 - temp hotel keeper, Aberdeen > Betsy Thomson - serv - unmarried - house maid domestic - Orkney, Linghope > > I have an unidentified picture that was taken by John B. Russell, King > Street, Kirkwall. > > The connection to this hotel and George Black is that my grandparents, > David > Douglas Menzies and Alison Thomson Kirk, were married there in 1892, and > one > of the witnesses was George M. Black, the owner of the hotel. I am thus > wondering if this by chance, is his picture. > > For those who may be researching people, the other witness at their > wedding > was Alexander Horne. > > According to the 1881 censuses for Orkney for Alexander Horne, there are > two > shown. One appears to be the father and the other the son. > The son was a board school teacher, as was my grandfather David Menzies. > This Alexander Horne lived at Nasbister? School House, Rousay > > There is also the possibilty that this is a picture of him. I would > suspect > that George Black, being married, would have had his wife in the picture > as > well, but this is only speculation. > > I have a scan of the picture for anyone interested or who think they could > possibly identify this person. > > Regards > Jim Menzies > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>List Rule: Do not post regarding Virus, Infected E-mails or Spam > Many worms, trojans, or viruses forge (copy) the "From" e-mail address, > making them appear to come from someone you know (such as RootsWeb.com). > Or, they may have a file name that would make it look like a legitimate > e-mail address. Spam, or an infected e-mail might indicate a message came > from RootsWeb.com, or from a mailing list at RootsWeb.com, when it didn't. > An infected computer is sending these forged messages to you privately. > RootsWeb.com cannot prevent these forgeries, nor the bounces for failed > deliveries > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== To browse or search the archives of this list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORKNEY.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005

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Thanks for the link, however my grandparents only lived there from 1892 to 1896, and were born elsewhere. I did search for the photographer, but he doesn't show up in Kirkwall in 1941 Jim -----Original Message----- From: Allan Steel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Orkney] Blacks Hotel - George M Black Hi Jim, Canno thelp you with you rquery but thought you might like this site as it has 1841 census for Orkney and maybe of assistance to you. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/ Regards Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Menzies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: [Orkney] Blacks Hotel - George M Black > I am enquiring about Black's Hotel located on Ayre in Kirkwall, and looking > for possible descendants of George M Black who was the owner of the > hotel in > 1892. > > I understand that this is currently the Ayre Hotel, and I have emailed them > but have not received a response confirming whether this is the same hotel. > I have been told by what I believe is a reliable source, that they are > the same place. > > The 1881 census show the following: > > Ayre 16 > George M Black - Head - m - 52 - temp hotel keeper, working on own > account x, Bauffshire, Bohaus? > ???? Black - wife - m - 49 - temp hotel keeper, Aberdeen Betsy > Thomson - serv - unmarried - house maid domestic - Orkney, Linghope > > I have an unidentified picture that was taken by John B. Russell, King > Street, Kirkwall. > > The connection to this hotel and George Black is that my grandparents, David > Douglas Menzies and Alison Thomson Kirk, were married there in 1892, > and one > of the witnesses was George M. Black, the owner of the hotel. I am > thus wondering if this by chance, is his picture. > > For those who may be researching people, the other witness at their wedding > was Alexander Horne. > > According to the 1881 censuses for Orkney for Alexander Horne, there > are two > shown. One appears to be the father and the other the son. > The son was a board school teacher, as was my grandfather David Menzies. > This Alexander Horne lived at Nasbister? School House, Rousay > > There is also the possibilty that this is a picture of him. I would suspect > that George Black, being married, would have had his wife in the > picture as > well, but this is only speculation. > > I have a scan of the picture for anyone interested or who think they > could possibly identify this person. > > Regards > Jim Menzies > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > >>>>List Rule: Do not post regarding Virus, Infected E-mails or Spam > Many worms, trojans, or viruses forge (copy) the "From" e-mail > address, making them appear to come from someone you know (such as RootsWeb.com). Or, they may have a file name that would make it look like a legitimate e-mail address. Spam, or an infected e-mail might indicate a message came from RootsWeb.com, or from a mailing list at RootsWeb.com, when it didn't. An infected computer is sending these forged messages to you privately. RootsWeb.com cannot prevent these forgeries, nor the bounces for failed deliveries > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: > 11-Nov-05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11-Nov-05 ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== SPAM - best advice.. DELETE it. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005

I am enquiring about Black's Hotel located on Ayre in Kirkwall, and looking for possible descendants of George M Black who was the owner of the hotel in 1892. I understand that this is currently the Ayre Hotel, and I have emailed them but have not received a response confirming whether this is the same hotel. I have been told by what I believe is a reliable source, that they are the same place. The 1881 census show the following: Ayre 16 George M Black - Head - m - 52 - temp hotel keeper, working on own account x, Bauffshire, Bohaus? ???? Black - wife - m - 49 - temp hotel keeper, Aberdeen Betsy Thomson - serv - unmarried - house maid domestic - Orkney, Linghope I have an unidentified picture that was taken by John B. Russell, King Street, Kirkwall. The connection to this hotel and George Black is that my grandparents, David Douglas Menzies and Alison Thomson Kirk, were married there in 1892, and one of the witnesses was George M. Black, the owner of the hotel. I am thus wondering if this by chance, is his picture. For those who may be researching people, the other witness at their wedding was Alexander Horne. According to the 1881 censuses for Orkney for Alexander Horne, there are two shown. One appears to be the father and the other the son. The son was a board school teacher, as was my grandfather David Menzies. This Alexander Horne lived at Nasbister? School House, Rousay There is also the possibilty that this is a picture of him. I would suspect that George Black, being married, would have had his wife in the picture as well, but this is only speculation. I have a scan of the picture for anyone interested or who think they could possibly identify this person. Regards Jim Menzies

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In a message dated 11/11/2005 4:46:39 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: While Listers may be familiar with the excellent website of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission at www.cwgc.org , Brian Budge has now posted a more detailed database listing the names and other biographical details of the 357 individuals listed on Orkney's WWI Memorials and the 45 listed on Orkney's WWII War Memorials at www.rbls-kirkwall.org.uk > Memorials. There he also invites additional information for his database. James Irvine Thanks James for the above. I just found photos and an obituary for a distant cousin -- George Stout of Stronsay. His mother Jane Leslie was my great-grandmother Margaret Williamson's (b. 12 Oct 1840 Stronsay) first cousin. A bit of irony or perhaps fate that I should find this on Nov 11. My father was also a WW1 participant. Phil Pursley http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/u/r/Phillip-R-Pursley/index.html

While Listers may be familiar with the excellent website of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission at www.cwgc.org , Brian Budge has now posted a more detailed database listing the names and other biographical details of the 357 individuals listed on Orkney's WWI Memorials and the 45 listed on Orkney's WWII War Memorials at www.rbls-kirkwall.org.uk > Memorials. There he also invites additional information for his database. James Irvine