George is this Malcolm Ross Brown in Australia? See http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1873/11/042isl.htm Can you contact me off -line re your Brown line please. Marion Web pages at www.btinternet.com/~marion.mcleod http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/l/Marion-A-Mcleod www.photobox.co.uk/[email protected]

Fiona, Malcolm Ross Brown born on 2 March 1836 to John Brown and Barbara Ross was my great great granduncle. His brother William Laughton Brown was my great great grandfather. William was married to Caroline Makinson. My notes say that Malcolm Ross Brown went to Australia so perhaps he had gone by 1861 George Gray, Orkney ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: [Orkney] 1841/51 Census lookup > Wondered if anyone would be kind enough to look up census for South > Ronaldsay for a Malcolm Ross Brown born 1836.Parents were John Brown and > Barbara > Ross.They lived at Hallbrake/Haybrake South Ronaldsay. > He's not in the 1861 census . > There is another Malcolm Ross Brown,born c1857 to a John Brown and Betsy > Rosie in the 1861 census at Old Hallbrake and I think I have confused > these two > people. > The John Brown at Old Hallbrake was the son of Edward Brown and Catherine > Windwick while the John Brown married to Barbara Ross was the son of John > Brown > and Catherine Rosie. > HELP! > fIONA > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>List Rule: Do not post regarding Virus, Infected E-mails or Spam > Many worms, trojans, or viruses forge (copy) the "From" e-mail address, > making them appear to come from someone you know (such as RootsWeb.com). > Or, they may have a file name that would make it look like a legitimate > e-mail address. Spam, or an infected e-mail might indicate a message came > from RootsWeb.com, or from a mailing list at RootsWeb.com, when it didn't. > An infected computer is sending these forged messages to you privately. > RootsWeb.com cannot prevent these forgeries, nor the bounces for failed > deliveries > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi Fiona 1841 Blanster [District of Blanster - individual houses/farms are not identified] John Brown, 25, Ag Lab Barbra Brown, 30 John Brown, 8 Malcolm Brown, 6 Catherine Brown, 1 - all born South Ronaldsay 1851 Hall Brake John Brown, Head, Married, 36, Merchant, Grocer & Innkeeper,South Ronaldsay Barbara Brown, Wife, Married, 44,, South Ronaldsay John Brown, Son, Unmarried, 17, Shopkeeper, South Ronaldsay Malcolm Brown, Son,, 15, Scholar, South Ronaldsay Catherine Brown, Daughter,, 11, Scholar at Home, South Ronaldsay William L Brown, Son,, 8, Scholar at Home, South Ronaldsay Robert R Brown, Son,, 6, Scholar at Home, South Ronaldsay George R Brown, Son,, 1,, South Ronaldsay Isabella Simeson, Servant, Unmarried, 22, House Servant, South Ronaldsay Denis O'Kane, Visitor, Married, 37, Travelling Merchant, Londonderry, Ireland 1861 Lower Hall Brake John Brown, Head, Married, 46, Inn Keeper, South Ronaldsay Barbara Brown, Wife, Married, 53,, South Ronaldsay John Brown, Son, Unmarried, 26, Farmer, South Ronaldsay William Brown, Son, Unmarried, 18, Carpenter, South Ronaldsay Robert Brown, Son, Unmarried, 16, Fisherman, South Ronaldsay George Brown, Son,, 11, Scholar, South Ronaldsay James Banks, Son-in-law, Married, 25, Blacksmith, Burray Catherine Banks, Daughter, Married, 20, Milliner, South Ronaldsay Mary Ann Banks, Granddaughter, 2 months,, South Ronaldsay Isabella Norquay, Servant, Unmarried, 18, Domestic Servant, Flotta Hope it helps, Dave Annal, Watford, England http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.annal/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: [Orkney] 1841/51 Census lookup > Wondered if anyone would be kind enough to look up census for South > Ronaldsay for a Malcolm Ross Brown born 1836.Parents were John Brown and > Barbara > Ross.They lived at Hallbrake/Haybrake South Ronaldsay. > He's not in the 1861 census . > There is another Malcolm Ross Brown,born c1857 to a John Brown and Betsy > Rosie in the 1861 census at Old Hallbrake and I think I have confused > these two > people. > The John Brown at Old Hallbrake was the son of Edward Brown and Catherine > Windwick while the John Brown married to Barbara Ross was the son of John > Brown > and Catherine Rosie. > HELP! > fIONA > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>List Rule: Do not post regarding Virus, Infected E-mails or Spam > Many worms, trojans, or viruses forge (copy) the "From" e-mail address, > making them appear to come from someone you know (such as RootsWeb.com). > Or, they may have a file name that would make it look like a legitimate > e-mail address. Spam, or an infected e-mail might indicate a message came > from RootsWeb.com, or from a mailing list at RootsWeb.com, when it didn't. > An infected computer is sending these forged messages to you privately. > RootsWeb.com cannot prevent these forgeries, nor the bounces for failed > deliveries > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi George That could be possible. Have been rechecking data i received from someone and discovered the mixup. My connection(by marriage) is through William's sister Catherine who married James Banks. I would be interested in info about William and Caroline if you wouldn't mind. thanks Fiona

Hi Dave thanks very much ,hope I can sort this out now! regards Fiona

Hi, Does anyone know if anything similar has been done on Southronaldsay Cathy In a message dated 04/12/2005 15:47:11 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Yes, the Westray Heritage Trust have photos, inscriptions and lair plans of all graves in the three cemeteries. Although officially open May through September access is available at other times by arrangement Anyone wishing information can contact:- Nancy Scott [email protected] or Jim Corse [email protected]

Can someone send me Gavin Rendall's e-mail address - I think he might be a relation. On Dec 4, 2005, at 10:48 AM, [email protected] wrote: Hi Thompson Thanks very much for the information. I have been in contact with Gavin Rendall before regarding "Westray Roots" which i found very interesting and helpful. cheers Fiona ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>> TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >>>> [email protected] In the body include only one word: >>>> unsubscribe Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Evelyn S. Hlabse 26654 White Way Drive Richmond Heights, OH 44143-1120 216 261 8959

Hi Thompson Thanks very much for the information. I have been in contact with Gavin Rendall before regarding "Westray Roots" which i found very interesting and helpful. cheers Fiona

In a message dated 1/12/05 8:53:37 pm, [email protected] writes: > I am sure the Westray Heritage Trust did a full survery of Westray > graveyards, photos included, and this should be available at the Trust on > Westray? > > Yes, the Westray Heritage Trust have photos, inscriptions and lair plans of all graves in the three cemeteries. Although officially open May through September access is available at other times by arrangement Anyone wishing information can contact:- Nancy Scott [email protected] or Jim Corse [email protected]

Hi Fiona- pg 51 Burghers O' Westray: Henry Burgar 1st child of John Burgar & Christian Harcus, chr 2nd Mar 1771 Westray, d 1841-1851 Westray; m Elizabeth Harcus chr 21 Feb 1770 Westray, d 20 Ap 1858 Cubbigeo, Westray (note-Henry is my 4x gr uncle-his sister Elizabeth m Thomas Thomson & emigrated to Nova Scotia) 5 children: John; Catherine; CHRISTIAN chr 21 Mar 1803 , m Archibald Scholley; Elizabeth; Henry pg 151 Chapter 8 Christian/Christiana Burgar chr 21-4-1803 d 8-5-1859 Cubigo m 17-11-1822 Archibald Scholley-b c. 1792, d 1838 (aged 46) "Christian was the 3rd child of Henry Burgar & Elizabeth Harcus. Her "christian" name is spelt just like that in the baptismal records and on her gravestone. In the Death Register it is spelt as Christina. It is Christa and Christiana in various cencus returns. Schollay is likewise spelt Scholley, Scollay, Schaly, and Scholly. Her husband had died at an early 46 years of age in 1838...earlier than census...1841. In 1851 she is described as a widow, formerly a farmer's wife. " Christian & Archibald's children: Jean chr 10-9-1827 , m George Bews (plus 5 other children: Christina Armit; Wm; Henry-d 1834 aged 7 weeks; Archibald-died 16 Aug 1861 aged 28 yrs; Henry) "The eldest, Jean chr 10-9-1827 m George Bews and she d at Northhouse, which is between Noltland & Noup, on the 19th June 1912 at the age of 84 of old age. Her nephew,Thomas Rendall, notified the register of the death. In 1861, her son William Scolly described as a 28 year old shoemaker, was living at Cubigo with his Rousay born wife Ann (INKSTER) and children. A servant, John Burgess aged 14 was an apprentice shoemaker. Elizabeth was aged 4 then, Jean was born at Cubbigo on the 20th Feb 1858, and Robina Inkster Scollay was b on the 16th Jan 1860. A son William was b c. 1863 and they lived at North Cubbigeo in 1871. A further 10 years on and the only occupants of that croft were William Scolly aged 18 and his sister aged 22. Both were unmarried. The Costie family had taken over North Cubbigeo by 1891." (at top of page 151 : " Much of the information for this chapter...comes from Gavin Mowat Rendall of Purley, Eng. Gavin is a genealogist who publishes a regular newsletter entitled " Westray Roots".) Regarding WILLIAM BEWS- the only one listed in B O' W was b 1931 Quoybirse m Irene Rendall 1956 and is listed as a farmer at Quoybirse, Westray. Regarding Marjory Drever- none listed in index of B O' W. I have several old copies of the OFHS and will see if article on Archibald Schollay is there. cheers Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Orkney] Burghers o' Westray > Thanks very much for replies. > My connection is through my daughter- > I have Christian Burghar born 1803 married to Archibold Scollayin 1822, > one of their daughters, Jean,born 1827 married George Bews in 1858, > one of their sons,William born 1866 married Marjory Drever in 1890 > finally their daughter Marjory is my daughters great grandmother. > > I remember reading an article in the OFHS magazine about the Burghar and > families and about Archibold Schollay. > Fiona > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>> Orkney list now has 329 subscribers <<<<< > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005

Wondered if anyone would be kind enough to look up census for South Ronaldsay for a Malcolm Ross Brown born 1836.Parents were John Brown and Barbara Ross.They lived at Hallbrake/Haybrake South Ronaldsay. He's not in the 1861 census . There is another Malcolm Ross Brown,born c1857 to a John Brown and Betsy Rosie in the 1861 census at Old Hallbrake and I think I have confused these two people. The John Brown at Old Hallbrake was the son of Edward Brown and Catherine Windwick while the John Brown married to Barbara Ross was the son of John Brown and Catherine Rosie. HELP! fIONA

Thanks very much for replies. My connection is through my daughter- I have Christian Burghar born 1803 married to Archibold Scollayin 1822, one of their daughters, Jean,born 1827 married George Bews in 1858, one of their sons,William born 1866 married Marjory Drever in 1890 finally their daughter Marjory is my daughters great grandmother. I remember reading an article in the OFHS magazine about the Burghar and families and about Archibold Schollay. Fiona

The Family History Society have published trancriptions of St.Marys and Flaws headstones, and are working on St. Peters' and St.Lawrence (Burray). WPL Thomson has written a lengthy article on the Ladykirk Stone with illustrations in The New Orkney Antiquarian Journal 2002 Vol. ii p29-43. A very short piece and picture also appear in his New History of Orkney 2001, pp11-13. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Ward" <[email protected]> To: < Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Orkney] South Ronaldsay Graveyards Hi, I've been looking at Jim Lawson's pictures. Could anyone tell me about the "Ladykirk Stone" at St. Mary's? Thank you, Jane __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ______________________________

Hi Fiona- I have a copy & will contact you regarding Jeff Burgher who wrote the book- a family /social history . Well done I might add- my Westray Burgars & Thomsons are there- my 4x grgrmother is listed on page 53 : "ELIZABETH BURGAR, 5th child of JOHN BURGAR and CHRISTIAN HARCUS . chr. 12th April, 1783. Nothing more is known of Elizabeth." Thanks to Jeff's hard work -and 2 early 19th C letters sent to Nova Scotia from Westray- the connection was made. Jeff also publishes a Burgher Family Newsletter. Will do lookups...the book has an index. cheers Thompson in PEI ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: [Orkney] Burghers o' Westray > can anyone tell me where I could get a copy of the Burghers o' Westray? > Fiona > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >>>>>[email protected] In the body include only one word: >>>>>unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005

can anyone tell me where I could get a copy of the Burghers o' Westray? Fiona

In a message > Fri, 2 Dec 2005 20:17:10 -0000 > From: "Archie Gilbert" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Scotsman Archives > > May et al, > I tried today and realised quickly that I had to register as > if I was signing up, but the first option was the free view. It went > smoothly after that. I got my info first hit, - an obituary for Sir Robert William > Hamilton Kt. I suppose it helped that he was a knight of the realm ! Biggest > problem was getting the page to the right size to print off ! > Good luck to everybody else. > > Archie Gilbert, Kinross. Archie, Lucky you!! I have been trying for 2 days with no luck. For me, everything goes as you say above except..... After signing up the first time it diverted me to a page to buy products (the first of which was the zero cost offer). I read the terms & conditions and then it says to tick a box to agree to them. The box will not tick, and without that tick you can't proceed. Next time in, it recognized me and took me straight to that "purchase" page, but the result was the same. I have tried now 5 times, always with the same result. I have left a message at their contact point, but have no reply yet. Did your sign-in take you on a different route? Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

Ken, What I did was to click on, an accept the Zero Cost Offer. Make sure it is on the free one. Albert

James, I already have this notation up as 'recommended reading' by Jim Lawson's photo of the Ladykirk Stone. I sent along this info to Jane, too, with the link to the Orcadian Bookshop with which one can order it on-line. It's a wonderful article. {> on 12/3/05 3:47 PM <} James Irvine wrote -- WPL Thomson has written a lengthy article on the Ladykirk Stone with illustrations in The New Orkney Antiquarian Journal 2002 Vol. ii p29-43.

Lisa Just to give a little history on this Park family of mine that might lead to finding out who this William Park is living with them in the USA William Anderson b 1810 Wick, married Mary MacDonald b Jan 1813, marriage date Feb 15, 1838 in Burray, South Ronaldsay Mary's parents were John MacDonald and Margaret MacDonald whom were both from Farr, Sutherland William's parents were James Anderson and Barbara Hossack William Anderson and Mary MacDonald had these children 1. Sinclair Anderson 2. John MacDonald Anderson 3. Jane Anderson 4. Elizabeth Hossack Anderson 5. James Anderson Now Sinclair Anderson married Matthew Park who was born 1831 on Dec 16, 1869 now I do not have copies of these marriages and they probably state parents but I do not have Matthew's parents names. This couple stayed in and died in South Ronaldsay Sinclairs' two brothers John MacDonald Anderson and James Anderson moved to Emporia, Kansas prior to 1869, first settled in Illinois (had a child there in 1869) then by the 1870 Census of Usa were living in Emporia, Kansas, 1875 shows them as well and in 1880 the household reads this 1880 Census of Emporia, Kansas Anderson John M. Age 37 Carpenter born Scotland widow Minnie age 11 daughter Annie age 9 daughter John age 7 son William age 5 son Luther age 4 son Park, William boarder born Scotland age 35 Jennie wife age 31 Kittie age 5 dau Peter age 3 son Anderson, James age 25 born Scotland Emma age 19 born Illinois Frazier, Mary mother in law age 56 born Scotland Mary Frazier is the mother of John MacDonald Anderson's wife, that is now deceased,(they are from Glasgow) Not sure who the William Park is but chances are since his sister is married to a Park that he is related to Matthew Park, James Anderson is another brother to Sinclair Anderson/Park I have pictures of Minnie and Annie probably as young women age 12-16, when Emma wrote to my Jane MacDonald (stating Aunt Jane) in Canada talking of John's wife dying, I got the write up on the death from the paper and she had committed suicide I of course had not followed William Park, had no reason to but if someone is looking for him, I would start here Cathy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 02/12/2005

Probably not of much use/interest to most of you, but I've put photos of lots of ANNAL gravestones from the South Ronaldsay churchyards on my website at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.annal/family/family_gravestones.html Dave Annal, Watford, England http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.annal/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Wagner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [Orkney] South Ronaldsay Graveyards > Lisa > Just havent been on the site for I guess at least a year and a half!! > > Or......I guess I didn't notice a link to it, maybe had a mission when I > was > there, and me and my mission's well I don't see anything much beyond > them... > ....smile > > At any rate , is nice to see and if it really has been that long since I > visited I think I might spend a day this week on site just checking out > what > you have been up to Lisa....... > > Now what about the cemetery stones, for South Ronaldsay.......maybe if we > get people who visit there to submit their families or something, > eventually > there would not be many stones to cover > > What do you think > > Cathy > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: > 01/12/2005 > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>>>TIP: To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >>>>>[email protected] In the body include only one word: >>>>>unsubscribe > Use Orkney-D if you're receiving digests.<<<< > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >