As a seaman in the Royal Navy (RN), his next of kin details would have been on file. The Fiscal obviously obtained them from the Navy. Scapa Flow was a major base for the Royal Navy in both World Wars. Interestingly your transcription doesn't give a ship's name. Perhaps he was attached to the Lyness shore station which only closed in the 1950's. I believe ships of the U.S. Navy that operated in European waters during the First World War were also based in Scapa Flow. Regards David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia Researching Stewart, Baikie, Heddle, Malcomson, Stout, Gray, Cromarty, Oman, Anderson, Sutherland ----- Original Message ----- From: Greenwood To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: [Orkney] Frank LONG death, Orphir 1915 Came across a drowning in the 1915 Deaths for Orphir. The deceased was from England. No relation to this family, posting it for the unexpected link to Hertfordshire. Not sure how parent's names were gotten if he wasn't a local.....perhaps he was swept off an English ship in Scapa Flow and had no links to Orkney at all. Meg Greenwood Frank Edwin LONG, Able Seaman, R.N. Single./ died Sept 30 about 12:30pm aged 22y at Scapa Flow. Usual residence Hawkswich Lodge, St Albans, Herts. Parents were George Long, Cowman & Emma LONG ms CONSTABLE. Cause was Accidental Drowning. Body not recovered. Registered on information of James BEGG, Procurator Fiscal. Registered Oct 27 at Orphir, Thomas Inkster, Registrar. There is an RCE notation in the margin - See Reg. of Corr. Ents. Vol 1 p53, Oct 27, 1915. ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== >>>> Orkney list now has 329 subscribers <<<<< ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Would any readers care to suggest why Rev. James Tyrie, Minister of Sandwick Parish would travel to Walls Parish to baptize a Walls child there on 12 March 1772, when Rev. James Bremner was the Minister in Walls at the time? Thanks, Bruce Young [email protected]

Came across a drowning in the 1915 Deaths for Orphir. The deceased was from England. No relation to this family, posting it for the unexpected link to Hertfordshire. Not sure how parent's names were gotten if he wasn't a local.....perhaps he was swept off an English ship in Scapa Flow and had no links to Orkney at all. Meg Greenwood Frank Edwin LONG, Able Seaman, R.N. Single./ died Sept 30 about 12:30pm aged 22y at Scapa Flow. Usual residence Hawkswich Lodge, St Albans, Herts. Parents were George Long, Cowman & Emma LONG ms CONSTABLE. Cause was Accidental Drowning. Body not recovered. Registered on information of James BEGG, Procurator Fiscal. Registered Oct 27 at Orphir, Thomas Inkster, Registrar. There is an RCE notation in the margin - See Reg. of Corr. Ents. Vol 1 p53, Oct 27, 1915.

Roland St.Clair's entry for Louttit in his "Orcadian Families" (OA D31/14/2, or the Blue booklets available at the OA Desk) states that Margaret Louttit was mentioned in 1756 as the eldest daughter of John Louttit of Lyking and Margaret Graham. "She married Mr.Hourston, and the [Lyking] estate, c.1820, was sold by her heir to the late James Robertson." I don't think this adds much to what you already know, but that ancestry of the Louttits (whose ownership of Lyking goes back to at least 1492) is there if you want it. See also Clouston's Records of the Earldom of Orkney, pp458-459. I have a note (source lost I'm afraid) that John Louttit died before 1751; he had married Margaret Graham in 1695 (Clouston has 1700) and they had another daughter Anna. St.Clair's entry for the Hourston family stops in the 17th century, but he does have an Oliver Hourston in Daill, Evie as a younger son of the Hourstons of Hourston, Sandwick, and father of a John Hourston, fl.1645. James. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: William Hourston - Lyking Sandwick > Still trying to verify parents of William Hourston, his marriage states > that > he was from Lyking, he was born c1779. > While browsing "Kirkwall in the Orkneys" i came across a paragraph which > said that Lyking had been in possession of Louttits, and that a daughter > of > Louttits married a Hourston. It also mentioned that the Hourston's sold > Lyking > c1820. > > I checked the sasines and sure enough William Hourston of Lyking sold to > Robertson of Stromness.It also stated that William Hourston was then > residing at > Burgar(Evie). > I also managed to access various summons for debt etc for William Hourston > of Burgar(thanks to Sarah Jane at Kirkwall Library)but I still don't know > if > this is "my"William > > However in the 1821 census for Stromness is my William and his wife > Cecillia > Wood and his family. Could this be the same person?In the census he is > listed as a merchant but in subsequent death certs of his children he is > listed as > a farmer. > > The last mention I was able to find of him was in 1833 in church records > for > both Stromness and Birsay as he admitted fathering a child, by this time > he > was a widower. > > Sorry if this is a bit longwinded, would appreciate any help as he has > been > my brick wall for a long time. > thanks > Fiona > > ______________________________

Fiona. If you get no replies to this request, let me know and I'll pop into the Kirkwall library for you next week some time and see if I can find it. But someone may reply on line. Suzie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: [Orkney] census look up Evie 1841/1851 Wondered if anyone would be kind enough to look up census for Evie 1841 and 1851 for my elusive William Hourston of Lyking in the hope that he is there and the one \I'm looking for. William Hourston born c1779, unless he remarried between 1833 and 1841 he is a widower.Possible children with him are Margaret born c1811,Robert born c1813 and William born c1820 (this is taken from 1821 census so not sure about accuracy etc) thanks Fiona ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== SPAM - best advice.. DELETE it. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Bruce thanks very much for looking Fiona

Fiona - The only Lyking that I can find in the 1851 census booklet for Evie and Rendall is in Rendall - 6/28 occupied by James Wood and his family. I didn't find a William Hourston, the right age in either the 1841 or 1851 census of Evie and Rendall. Good Luck in your search. Bruce Jameson in Corunna, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [Orkney] census look up Evie 1841/1851 > Wondered if anyone would be kind enough to look up census for Evie 1841 and > 1851 for my elusive William Hourston of Lyking in the hope that he is there > and the one \I'm looking for. > William Hourston born c1779, unless he remarried between 1833 and 1841 he is > a widower.Possible children with him are Margaret born c1811,Robert born > c1813 and William born c1820 (this is taken from 1821 census so not sure about > accuracy etc) > thanks > Fiona > > > ==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > SPAM - best advice.. DELETE it. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Suzie that's very kind of you - I will let you know. thanks Fiona

Wondered if anyone would be kind enough to look up census for Evie 1841 and 1851 for my elusive William Hourston of Lyking in the hope that he is there and the one \I'm looking for. William Hourston born c1779, unless he remarried between 1833 and 1841 he is a widower.Possible children with him are Margaret born c1811,Robert born c1813 and William born c1820 (this is taken from 1821 census so not sure about accuracy etc) thanks Fiona

Still trying to verify parents of William Hourston, his marriage states that he was from Lyking, he was born c1779. While browsing "Kirkwall in the Orkneys" i came across a paragraph which said that Lyking had been in possession of Louttits, and that a daughter of Louttits married a Hourston. It also mentioned that the Hourston's sold Lyking c1820. I checked the sasines and sure enough William Hourston of Lyking sold to Robertson of Stromness.It also stated that William Hourston was then residing at Burgar(Evie). I also managed to access various summons for debt etc for William Hourston of Burgar(thanks to Sarah Jane at Kirkwall Library)but I still don't know if this is "my"William However in the 1821 census for Stromness is my William and his wife Cecillia Wood and his family. Could this be the same person?In the census he is listed as a merchant but in subsequent death certs of his children he is listed as a farmer. The last mention I was able to find of him was in 1833 in church records for both Stromness and Birsay as he admitted fathering a child, by this time he was a widower. Sorry if this is a bit longwinded, would appreciate any help as he has been my brick wall for a long time. thanks Fiona

[email protected] wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I could buy the above book? I've tried The Orcadian > online but no luck. > Fiona Well actually, Fiona, it does seem to be available from "The Orcadian", but the title differs a little from the one you gave. Look here: https://www.orcadian.co.uk/books/acatalog/Orcadian_Bookshop_Fae_Quoy_tae_Castle_348.html Norman Tulloch

The book is called Fae Quoy Tae Castle and it's a wonderfull book. It has photos [b&w] of all the house on the Isle of Westray. Each house has a write-up with family names. The index however, is a little skimpy and should be expanded. I love my copy. It speaks volumes even without the words. Susanne [email protected] wrote: >Hi Jim and Norman >Thanks very much for your replies >Can you tell me if the book is relevant to finding out about the places etc >from way back or is it more recent? That might sound a bit daft but I want to >find out about the places etc regarding where ancestors lived. >Fiona > > >==== ORKNEY Mailing List ==== > > >>>>>Orkney list now has 329 subscribers <<<<< >>>>> >>>>> > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi Jim Looks like the credit card is going to get an airing! Thanks fiona

Hi, It consists of photographs of all the houses, both lived in and ruins. Of the ones that are lived in there are current photos and old photos and lists of current occupiers and previous occupiers, some going back several generations. Regards, Jim.

Hi Jim and Norman Thanks very much for your replies Can you tell me if the book is relevant to finding out about the places etc from way back or is it more recent? That might sound a bit daft but I want to find out about the places etc regarding where ancestors lived. Fiona

Hi, The book is available from:- The Westray Heritage Trust, The Lodge, Pierowall, Westray, Orkney. KW17 2BZ If you need help or additional information please feel free to contact me off line. Jim.

Can anyone tell me where I could buy the above book? I've tried The Orcadian online but no luck. Fiona

Found the following birth in Tongue Sutherland:- Henry Clouston Mackay born 1902,parents John William Mackay and Jessie Ann Clouston,married in 1886 at Stenness Fiona

Listers, I have found reference to a man who was in the early 1600s "in Fordell". It is not clear, although probable, that this Fordell was in Orkney. I am aware that there is a Fordell in Fife, but it seems unlikely that this is the one being referred to. Can anyone advise me whether there was a "Fordell" anywhere in Orkney? Please visit my transcriptions of records for 30 Kirkwall area families in the 17th, 18th and 19th Centuries, on the Orkney Family History Society members' page at www.orkneyfhs.co.uk Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

Ken I'm afraid that is all I know, apart from their date of marriage, 16January 1770. His family lived at Crook in Birsay. One of their son's,Robert, took over Boardhouse Mill, he married Catherine Johnston and then Isobel Whitelaw/Whitelay, he is my ancestor. These are their children: Elizabeth Spence 1770 Nicol Spence 1773 married to Elizabeth/Elspeth Whitelaw, died at Filperhouse Birsay Robert Spence 1775 see above, William Spence 1778 married to Margaret Byas and then Margaret Taylor David Spence 1780 Margaret Spence 1784 Ann Spence 1788 regards Fiona