To the List: I am so sorry one of my personal emails was sent to this list! It is totally an accident somehow...I posted some obits and sent some personal emails (all separately) and then got a notice from hotmail that delivery of some my emails had been delayed but that I didn't need to resend them ..that they would be delivered a little later...something must have been tied up somewhere in hotmail...then just now on the Klamath list one of my personal emails...subject: yuck ...had been sent to the wrong site...again I am sorry. Sandy ----Original Message Follows---- From: ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com To: ORKLAMAT-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #93 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:04:17 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain ORKLAMAT-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 93 Today's Topics: #1 Silvers/Hart ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #2 Yuck! ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #3 Mary Lalakes ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #4 Maggie John Ball ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #5 Eliza W. Long ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #6 Ned Schonchin ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #7 Minnie Hough Paries ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #8 Interesting info from another list ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ORKLAMAT-D, send a message to ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:01:58 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F1156RjHpKnle000241f8@hotmail.com> Subject: Silvers/Hart Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Klamath Republican Sept. 14, 1899 SILVERS - HART NUPTIALS Last Saturday at high noon, Mr. Frank Silvers and Miss Sissy Hart were joined in holy wedlock at Klamath Agency by the United States Interior Department intact. Shortly before noon the fire bell of the big boarding school tolled the approaching hour when the wedding party, consisting of the many tillicums and intimate friends of the bride and groom, proceeded from the commissary building headed by a big fat policeman, to the chapel of the school building, elaborately decorated with pine browse, service berries and choke cherries which presented a very pleasing affect. The party entered the building and ascended the stairs with steps measured by a persistent little school boy who beat time on a tenor drum, and entered the chapel. The contracting parties took their seats just inside the door among the antediluvian aborigines. A moment later the organ pealed forth one of Lohengrin's grand wedding marches and the couple, accompanied by two maids of honor, marched up the aisle to the altar where the word was spoken which made two hearts beat as one. Mr. Silvers is an alien who hails from Portugal and is an industrious, hardworking, young man of no ordinary ability with a buck saw. His pretty and accomplished bride is a daughter of Jim Hart of Spring Creek fame, on the reservation, and her many kind acts during her stay in town have won her numerous compliments. (This marriage would have been September 9, 1899.) _________________________________________________________________ Get fast, reliable Internet access with MSN 9 Dial-up – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:42:15 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F113NsVEgQSPD0004ca71@hotmail.com> Subject: Yuck! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The girls kept telling me when they would get behind the couch that it smelled like pee and I just passed it off as being on the hand-me-down couch or to the fact that when I first moved in I had Buddy's pee pad right there as there was room because I didn't have the couch yet and he wouldn't go out to the kitchen to go no matter what I tried....well anyway, a couple days ago I heard the cat back there digging around in paper...I looked and some papers had been knocked over the back of the shelf behind the monitor on the shelf onto the floor in the corner and the cat has been peeing and I don't know for how long...maybe since I got him...but he uses the litter box too...so that is a lot of pee for one cat....OMG! the smelll is so bad and the papers are ruined so bad I don't know if I can stand to be close enough to copy them over..but Kember said she would read them to me and I can write....I think if I just let them sit for awhile and air out it might help......I bought some of that enzyme stuff that is supposed to disgest biological matter...yuck yuck....hope it works....more Peyton Place going on around here with Kember and Jason...get back to you later when they go somewhere and I can "talk"! >>>>LOL _________________________________________________________________ From ‘will you?’ to ‘I do,’ MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:51:17 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F61VzukbCECaD0001cbff@hotmail.com> Subject: Mary Lalakes Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The dates for the last two Mary Lalakes articles are confusing....trying to figure it out... The death article says she died December 3, no year, but the article say it was printed June 12, 1935... original date 1935; The People article date is June 12, 1935 also, I bet the people article was written in 1936 NOT 1935.... This helps: OREGON DEATH INDEX Name: Lalakes, Mary County: Klamath Death Date: 29 N 1935 Certificate: 302 Spouse: Solomon _________________________________________________________________ From ‘will you?’ to ‘I do,’ MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ______________________________ X-Message: #4 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:42:15 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F48BAe7ae3nJI0004a73a@hotmail.com> Subject: Maggie John Ball Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. February 13, 1974 (Maggie John Ball died December 1973) Mrs. Maggie John Ball, 91, former resident of Klamth County and Riverside, Calif., died recently at the Four Seasons Nursing Home in Santa Fe, N.M. Mrs. Ball is survived by her sons, Joseph S. Ball, Carson City, Nev., and Woodrow W. Ball, Santa Fe; also serveral grandchildren. Funeral services were held in Santa Fe with interment at Mt. Rubidoux Cemetery, Riverside, Ca. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #5 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:30:35 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F46RP3qePlFaO0002398e@hotmail.com> Subject: Eliza W. Long Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. August 1, 1944 Eliza W. Long, a resident of Chiloquin, Ore., passed away at the Klamath Agency on Sunday, July 30, 1944. The deceased was a native of the Klamath Reservation, and was aged 83 years, 26 days when called. She is survived by her husband Leonard Long; 1 daughter, Angeline Summers of Chiloquin, Ore., 3 grandchildren, Pvt. Calvin Summers, U.S. Army, Camp Roberts, Calif., Albert and Annabelle Summers, Chiloquin, Ore. The remains rest in Ward's Funeral Home where friends may call after 2 p.m. Tuesday. The funeral service will take place from the Methodist Church at Williamson River on Thursday, August 3, 1944 at 2 p.m., the Rev. Harley Zeller officiating. The commitment service and interment will follow in the family plot in the Wilson Cemetery. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #6 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:16:18 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F99gTN4tNNnDy0004ecbf@hotmail.com> Subject: Ned Schonchin Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Oregonian January 30, 1937 Klamath Falls, January 30, (Special) Ned Schonchin, resident of the Klamath Indian Reservation, visited Klamath Falls for the first time in 30 years the other day. Ned doesn't know how old he is. His elder sister, One-Eyed Dixie, carried messages in the Modoc Indian War. Ned says he was just a "little shaver" then. The old Indian said Klamath Falls looked considerably different than it did the last time he saw it, although he has lived only 40 miles away for half a century or so. _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #7 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:24:16 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F87ezrmjZ7zgT0000cd8e@hotmail.com> Subject: Minnie Hough Paries Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Klamath News Klamath Falls, Or. September 17, 1936 Minnie Hough Paries passed away at her residence in Chiloquin, Or., on Wednesday morning, September 16, following a lingering illness. The deceased was a native of Klamath Falls and was aged 53 when called. She leaves to mourn her passing her husband Joe of Chiloquin; three nieces, Inez Hunter of Klamath Falls, Leona Hoover and Maude Pompey of Chiloquin; two nephews, Eugene Weeks of Beatty and Dan Weeks of Williamson River. The remains rest in the Klamath Funeral Home, 925 High Street. ++++++ Klamath News Klamath Falls, Or. September 18, 1936 The funeral service for the late Minnie Hough Paries, who passed away at Chiloquin, on Wednesday, September 16, will be held from the Methodist Church at Williamson River on Friday September 18, at 1 p.m., the Rev. Ross Ferguson and Rev. A.J. Neufeld officiating. The remains will arrive at the church at 12:30 p.m. Commitment service and vault entombment will take place in the Hill Cemetery. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #8 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:21:56 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F76zbfy1DmPKV00021fc7@hotmail.com> Subject: Interesting info from another list Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed -Message: #1 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:09:50 -0700 From: "Keith Winkelman" <ellobo@pacbell.net> To: MOBUCHAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <005601c45641$c240dbf0$0b586b45@IBM6NEBS8V3OV1> Subject: RE: [MOBUCHAN] A view on copyrighted material Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fair use applies to the use of material that is itself copyrightable. It turns out that much of the work in our field that carries a copyright mark is not actually covered by the copyright. This issue has been the subject of many long and interesting debates on various boards over the years, because of the field we're in. Copyrights can only apply to original work. It never applies to lists of facts. Simply put, if you walk a cemetery and transcribe and photograph every grave in the cemetery and then publish that material in a copyrighted book, the copyright will apply to the photographs (original work). It does not apply to the transcriptions of the graves. Those are not original works, simply the copying and dissemination of facts. If you write commentary or stories about your ancestors, it is original work and therefore copyrighted. If you do data analysis on the names, birth or death dates of the people in the cemetery, that's original and covered. The transcription itself (names, dates, and location of graves) is not, no matter how much work went into the compilation of those facts. It's simply not original work. Keith Winkelman, IBSSG -----Original Message----- From: Ken Reeder [mailto:kenr@arkansas.net] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:51 AM To: MOBUCHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBUCHAN] A view on copyrighted material Ref: "You can't put it on the net unless you go walk the cemetery yourself. The work is copyrighted." The Fair Use Doctrine allows the use of portions of most any copyrighted article. The writer of the above statement was correct that the copyrighted book could not be reproduced on the Internet without the authors written permission. But he/she has a very narrow view of the copyright law. The Fair Use Doctrine usually permits extraction of bits and pieces of a work, whether for critical review, or for educational purposes, and other uses. Under this Doctrine, the owner of this book could, if they chose to, do look-ups of information found in the book, and share it with the world. Personally, I would have a problem with someone doing this sharing of a copyrighted item, for profit. Were I the owner of the copyrighted item, I would welcome the publicity generated by the mention of the name of my book by those lookups, because sales would be generated. The following URL is a legal resource, one of many, that addresses this issue. http://www.bambooweb.com/articles/f/a/Fair_use.html ==== MOBUCHAN Mailing List ==== Buchanan County Genealogical Resources - Rootsweb http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/MO/Buchanan/ _________________________________________________________________ From ‘will you?’ to ‘I do,’ MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/