FAMOUS MODOC WARRIOR PASSES AT KLAMATH FALLS LAST OF TRIBE One of the most picturesque of the old Indian scouts of the early days of the Klamath Country, Peter Schonchin, passed away at the Hillside Hospital, in Klamath Falls Tuesday night. Peter was the last of the Modoc warriors left. Peter was of uncertain age, but he must have been some where around one hundred as it was sixty-five years ago that he acted as a scout in the Modoc War, and he was said to have been about twenty-six or better at the time. Reports vary as to the presence of Peter. Birth - about 1853 Died - April 25, 1939 Klamath Falls, Oregon ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Herald & News 1939 Klamath Falls, Oregon DEATH CLAIMS AGED MODOC WAR VETERAN Peter Schonchin, of uncertain but advanced age, died Tuesday night, April 25, in Hillside Hospital following a lengthy illness. The old Indian war scout, last Modoc survivor of that tragic war of more than 65 years ago, was the son of Schonchin John, sub-chief under the famous Modoc leader, Captain Jack. He saw his father, that day in October, 1873, when a noose was slipped about his neck and he paid with his life for his part in the Modoc war. BEST MARKSMAN Many times, he would say, he had heard his father tell of how the Modocs stared in wonder as "long boxes on wheels covered with white tops," came rattling across the sagebrush plain drawn by "strange oxen animals." Peter spent his youth hunting, fishing, playing games and running with the boys of the tribe. By the time he had arrived at young manhood, he had acquired the enviable reputation of being the best marksman among them with bow and arrow. EXILED TO OKLAHOMA When the Modoc war broke out during which the Indians entrenched themselves in the almost impregnable lava beds, Peter went with them. Although too young to take a prominent part in the war, he participated in it and with the quick observation and keen memory of youth, stored up impressions that stayed with him until the end of his long life. After having witnessed the hanging at Fort Klamath, Peter was not permitted to stay with his uncle, Old Chief Schonchin, as his father had wished. Instead, he was among the 153 Modocs who were hurried onto government wagons and taken under escort by a company of soldiers to Redding, Calif., from whence they were taken by train to Quapaw Agency, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Then followed a period when Peter had to follow the white man's way. He learned to read, write and study white man's books. When congress passed a bill in 1909 permitting the remnants of Captain Jack's band to return to the Klamath Reservation he was the first to do so. CHARTED HIGHWAY COURSE For 14 years Pete carried the mail to Yainax, following trails on horseback. The Klamath Falls-Lakeview highway follows for many miles the route Peter laid out as being the best trail over the mountains. Peter is survived by his wife, Lizzie, a little slip of a woman, whose face is so deeply furrowed that the tattoo marks on her chin and cheeks are barely visible. She was her husband's constant companion. Peter Schonchin had watched the progress of civilization in a country which was last to be touched by the advance of the white man. From timbered stretches and rich meadowland, the aged Indian scout saw ranches and cities, mills and factories rise, over trails he once rode on horseback. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Evening Herald Klamath Falls, Oregon December 15, 1930 Reginald Schonchin, 36, died Sunday morning. Survivors include, his wife, Winona Schonchin; children, Agatha and Blanche. His parents, Mr. and Mrs. Peter Schonchin; a brother, Cain; sisters, Jane, Angie and Margaret Ellen. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Evening Herald May 26, 1917 Indian Enlists Here Cain Schonchin, son of Peter Schonchin, prominent Indian of the Klamath Reservation, has enlisted in the United States Cavalry and leaves soon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evening Herald May 28, 1917 Recruit On Reservation W.A. Delzell, accompanied the Army recruiting officer and Cain Schonchin to the reservation yesterday and are spending several days there to recruit Indians into the Army. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
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YUMKAS, AGED INDIAN January 14, 1938 Yumkas, called Kate Brown, was either 105 or 130 years of age when she died the other day at Klamath Agency. She could remember the first white man she ever saw; she could tell of the excitement of the first horse, owned by her uncle, Chief Lalakas. She could weave the most delicately patterned baskets and tan a buckskin into a soft garment and embroider it with finer patterns than any of the younger women. When Oliver Applegate passed out names she was given the name of Kate Brown. She was born at Klamath Marsh. She told of how frightened the Indians were when the shower of stars came down from the heavens. Also, of the long treks when the Klamaths would walk to the Dalles and to Oregon City to visit friendly tribes. It was at Oregon City that she saw her first white man. Kate sold berries and fruits of the forrest to the whites. Yumkas was a grown woman before she had a dress of cotton material. Until that time she wore soft doeskin and her hat was made of woven tule. Missionaries were early visitors following the treaty of 1864, and Yumkas joined the Methodist Church. Later she became a member of the Indian Shaker faith and remained so until her death, January 11. Kate Brown died at the home of her niece, Mable Barclay, whom she had raised. She told of her Uncle Chief Lalakas, who died some 80 years ago. Burial will be in the Wilson Cemetery on the Klamath Reservation. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Kate Brown Born between 1825-1835 Klamath Reservation Died January 11, 1938 Age 105 Aunt of : Mabel Barkley and Sergeant Brown Niece of: Chief Lalakes ++++++ Evening Herald Klamath Falls, Oregon January 12, 1938 Kate Brown, a resident of the Williamson River district for the past 20 years, passed away at her residence on Tuesday, January 11. The deceased was a native of the Klamath Reservation and was aged 105 when called. She is survived by a niece, Mrs. Mabel Barkley and a nephew, Sargeant Brown, both of the Williamson River district. ++++++ Evening Herald Klamath Falls, Oregon January 13, 1938 The funeral services for the late Kate Brown will take place from the Chapel of Ward's Klamath Funeral Home on Friday, January 14 at 11 a.m., the Rev. B.W. Johnson of Chiloquin officiating. Final services and interment will be in the Wilson Cemetery. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Klamath County, Oregon Herald & News Jimmy Brown, one of the last of the old Modoc tribesmen, died June 24 in the Klamath County nursing home. He had been blind for several years. He was born in Dorris, Calif., one of several children. The federal Indian rolls gave his age as 83 although he claimed to be more than 90. He ranched most of his life and during his earlier life buckarooed on many Oregon cattle ranches. He was considered a top cowhand. Mrs. Brown, the former Rena Chocktoot, died in 1964. Mr. Brown is survived by one son, Wesley Brown, Beatty; 2 stepsons, Stephen Clayton Chocktoot, Hillsboro, and Perry Chocktoot, Salem; also several grandchildren. Funeral services will be held in the Chapel of Ward's at 10 a.m. Tuesday, June 29. Final rites and interment will be in the Chief Schonchin Cemetery, Beatty. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
HERALD & News January 01, 1958 HUNT Teresa Hunt, 39, native of Adin, Calif., lifelong resident of Klamath County, died in Chiloquin, January 15, 1958. Survivors include, widower, Castine of Chiloquin; her father, James Brown of Beatty; sons, Vincent of Woodburn, Ore., Reggie and Ernie of this city; daughters, Christine and Patricia of this city; a sister, Grace Lalo of Chiloquin. Funeral services will be announced by Ward's Klamath Funeral Home. _________________________________________________________________ Make the most of your family vacation with tips from the MSN Family Travel Guide! http://dollar.msn.com
Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. February 11, 1963 Mrya May Dick, 43, died in Chiloquin, February 10, 1963. Survivors include: daughter, Bethel Dick; mother, Mrs. Nora Hawk, Chiloquin; brothers, Gerald Captain, Klamath Agency and Paul Wilson, Fort Klamath. Funeral arrangements wll be announced by Ward's Klamath Funeral Home. ++++++ February 12, 1963 Funeral services for Myra May Dick will take place from the Williamson River Methodist Church on Wednesday, February 13, 1963 at 11 a.m. and 1:30 p.m. Concluding services and vault interment will be in the Hill Cemetery. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
POE VALLEY PIONEER KLAMATH COUNTY, OREGON Mrs. Birdie L. Burk, died May27, 1969 Mrs. Birdie L. Burk, member of a pioneer family and the first white child born in Klamath County, died Tuesday on her birthday at the age of 94. She lived her entire life as a resident of Klamath County. Mrs. Burk was born May 27, 1875, in a log cabin on the Horton Ranch, the daughter of William Horton and the former Elizabeth Poe, member of the family for whom the valley was named. Mrs. Burk and her two sisters, Ella and Lucy, both deceased, were born in the same log house during three county name changes----Jackson, Lake and Klamath. Their mother died when Mrs. Burk was born. Following her marriage on her birthday in 1892 to Lorenzo Burk, she and her husband ranched for a short time in the Langell Valley area prior to moving to Bonanza. Burk, who also served as deputy sheriff for the county died in 1930. Mrs. Burk had lived in the home built by her husband over 55 years ago. An active member of the Bonanza community, Mrs. Burk once owned the land on which the present Bonanaza Library was built and contributed towards its construction. She was a charter member of the Bonanza Women's Club, whose members over the years have maintained the library. Mrs. Burk is survived by a son, M.G. Burk, Bonanza; serveral grandchildren and 20 great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be held Monday at 2 p.m. from O'Hair's Funeral Chapel, with interment in Lost River Cemetery, Bonanza. The family requests that contributions be made to the Bonanza Big Springs Park or the Bonanza Library in Mrs. Burk's name. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
Reno Evening Gazette Reno, Nevada June 5, 1950 OLDEST INDIAN IN NEVADA DIES Bob Foster Godowa, reputedly Nevada's oldest Indian, died at the home of his nephew, Frank John, in Nixon Sunday evening. Mr. Godowa was the last survivor of the five which formed the burial party for Chief Winnemucca who died many years ago in Lassen County. Born in Lake County, Ore., in 1853, for many years he owned and operated a large ranch in Beatty, Or., until his retirement about five years ago when he came to make his home with his nephew in Nixon. For many years, Mr. Godowa was a warrior under Chief Winnemucca and made the last stand with that chief in the Stronghold battle in Alturas. In addition to his nephew, Frank John, Mr. Godowa was the uncle of Mrs. Tenny Brown of Fort Bidwell, Calif., and three great great grandchildren, Roland John, Alice John, and Nevel John, all of the Klamath Falls Indian reservation. Mr. Godowa's wife, Maggie, died nearly seven years ago, and he has out lived all of his children. Funeral services will be held at the church in Nixon, Thursday at 2 p.m., Brother David of Nixon officiating. Burial will be in the Indian Cemetery at Nixon. Arrangements are under the direction of the O'Brien-Rodgers Co., = = = = = = = = = = = Reno Evening Gazette Reno, Nevada June 6, 1950 Vital Statistics Deaths GODOWA-Funeral services will be held for Bob Foster Godowa at St. Marys Episcopal church in Nixon at 2 p.m. Thursday. Brother David officiating; burial, Nixon Cemetery; arrangements under the direction of the O'Brian-Rodgers co. _________________________________________________________________ Make the most of your family vacation with tips from the MSN Family Travel Guide! http://dollar.msn.com
Sandy: Don't you worry or be embarrassed about the wrong E mail getting posted. These things will happen. Besides we love your information you post and if one of them is not on genie, so be it, we appreciate you and all the hours you spend giving us such great genie info. Keep up the good work. Gerry In Oregon
Thanks Linda....it is kind of embarrassing but it is making me really laugh too...the subject matter...lol.....of course if it hadn't been embarrassing it probably wouldn't have happened! ----Original Message Follows---- From: ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com To: ORKLAMAT-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #94 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:06:40 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain ORKLAMAT-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 94 Today's Topics: #1 RE: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #93 ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #2 Re: [Klamath,Or] RE: ORKLAMAT-D Di [LAUBREY1@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ORKLAMAT-D, send a message to ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:30:27 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F20GfjVQZM1kL000034f4@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #93 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed To the List: I am so sorry one of my personal emails was sent to this list! It is totally an accident somehow...I posted some obits and sent some personal emails (all separately) and then got a notice from hotmail that delivery of some my emails had been delayed but that I didn't need to resend them ..that they would be delivered a little later...something must have been tied up somewhere in hotmail...then just now on the Klamath list one of my personal emails...subject: yuck ...had been sent to the wrong site...again I am sorry. Sandy ----Original Message Follows---- From: ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com To: ORKLAMAT-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #93 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:04:17 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain ORKLAMAT-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 93 Today's Topics: #1 Silvers/Hart ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #2 Yuck! ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #3 Mary Lalakes ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #4 Maggie John Ball ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #5 Eliza W. Long ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #6 Ned Schonchin ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #7 Minnie Hough Paries ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #8 Interesting info from another list ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ORKLAMAT-D, send a message to ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:01:58 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F1156RjHpKnle000241f8@hotmail.com> Subject: Silvers/Hart Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Klamath Republican Sept. 14, 1899 SILVERS - HART NUPTIALS Last Saturday at high noon, Mr. Frank Silvers and Miss Sissy Hart were joined in holy wedlock at Klamath Agency by the United States Interior Department intact. Shortly before noon the fire bell of the big boarding school tolled the approaching hour when the wedding party, consisting of the many tillicums and intimate friends of the bride and groom, proceeded from the commissary building headed by a big fat policeman, to the chapel of the school building, elaborately decorated with pine browse, service berries and choke cherries which presented a very pleasing affect. The party entered the building and ascended the stairs with steps measured by a persistent little school boy who beat time on a tenor drum, and entered the chapel. The contracting parties took their seats just inside the door among the antediluvian aborigines. A moment later the organ pealed forth one of Lohengrin's grand wedding marches and the couple, accompanied by two maids of honor, marched up the aisle to the altar where the word was spoken which made two hearts beat as one. Mr. Silvers is an alien who hails from Portugal and is an industrious, hardworking, young man of no ordinary ability with a buck saw. His pretty and accomplished bride is a daughter of Jim Hart of Spring Creek fame, on the reservation, and her many kind acts during her stay in town have won her numerous compliments. (This marriage would have been September 9, 1899.) _________________________________________________________________ Get fast, reliable Internet access with MSN 9 Dial-up now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:42:15 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F113NsVEgQSPD0004ca71@hotmail.com> Subject: Yuck! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The girls kept telling me when they would get behind the couch that it smelled like pee and I just passed it off as being on the hand-me-down couch or to the fact that when I first moved in I had Buddy's pee pad right there as there was room because I didn't have the couch yet and he wouldn't go out to the kitchen to go no matter what I tried....well anyway, a couple days ago I heard the cat back there digging around in paper...I looked and some papers had been knocked over the back of the shelf behind the monitor on the shelf onto the floor in the corner and the cat has been peeing and I don't know for how long...maybe since I got him...but he uses the litter box too...so that is a lot of pee for one cat....OMG! the smelll is so bad and the papers are ruined so bad I don't know if I can stand to be close enough to copy them over..but Kember said she would read them to me and I can write....I think if I just let them sit for awhile and air out it might help......I bought some of that enzyme stuff that is supposed to disgest biological matter...yuck yuck....hope it works....more Peyton Place going on around here with Kember and Jason...get back to you later when they go somewhere and I can "talk"! >>>>LOL _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:51:17 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F61VzukbCECaD0001cbff@hotmail.com> Subject: Mary Lalakes Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The dates for the last two Mary Lalakes articles are confusing....trying to figure it out... The death article says she died December 3, no year, but the article say it was printed June 12, 1935... original date 1935; The People article date is June 12, 1935 also, I bet the people article was written in 1936 NOT 1935.... This helps: OREGON DEATH INDEX Name: Lalakes, Mary County: Klamath Death Date: 29 N 1935 Certificate: 302 Spouse: Solomon _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ______________________________ X-Message: #4 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:42:15 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F48BAe7ae3nJI0004a73a@hotmail.com> Subject: Maggie John Ball Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. February 13, 1974 (Maggie John Ball died December 1973) Mrs. Maggie John Ball, 91, former resident of Klamth County and Riverside, Calif., died recently at the Four Seasons Nursing Home in Santa Fe, N.M. Mrs. Ball is survived by her sons, Joseph S. Ball, Carson City, Nev., and Woodrow W. Ball, Santa Fe; also serveral grandchildren. Funeral services were held in Santa Fe with interment at Mt. Rubidoux Cemetery, Riverside, Ca. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #5 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:30:35 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F46RP3qePlFaO0002398e@hotmail.com> Subject: Eliza W. Long Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. August 1, 1944 Eliza W. Long, a resident of Chiloquin, Ore., passed away at the Klamath Agency on Sunday, July 30, 1944. The deceased was a native of the Klamath Reservation, and was aged 83 years, 26 days when called. She is survived by her husband Leonard Long; 1 daughter, Angeline Summers of Chiloquin, Ore., 3 grandchildren, Pvt. Calvin Summers, U.S. Army, Camp Roberts, Calif., Albert and Annabelle Summers, Chiloquin, Ore. The remains rest in Ward's Funeral Home where friends may call after 2 p.m. Tuesday. The funeral service will take place from the Methodist Church at Williamson River on Thursday, August 3, 1944 at 2 p.m., the Rev. Harley Zeller officiating. The commitment service and interment will follow in the family plot in the Wilson Cemetery. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #6 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:16:18 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F99gTN4tNNnDy0004ecbf@hotmail.com> Subject: Ned Schonchin Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Oregonian January 30, 1937 Klamath Falls, January 30, (Special) Ned Schonchin, resident of the Klamath Indian Reservation, visited Klamath Falls for the first time in 30 years the other day. Ned doesn't know how old he is. His elder sister, One-Eyed Dixie, carried messages in the Modoc Indian War. Ned says he was just a "little shaver" then. The old Indian said Klamath Falls looked considerably different than it did the last time he saw it, although he has lived only 40 miles away for half a century or so. _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #7 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:24:16 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F87ezrmjZ7zgT0000cd8e@hotmail.com> Subject: Minnie Hough Paries Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Klamath News Klamath Falls, Or. September 17, 1936 Minnie Hough Paries passed away at her residence in Chiloquin, Or., on Wednesday morning, September 16, following a lingering illness. The deceased was a native of Klamath Falls and was aged 53 when called. She leaves to mourn her passing her husband Joe of Chiloquin; three nieces, Inez Hunter of Klamath Falls, Leona Hoover and Maude Pompey of Chiloquin; two nephews, Eugene Weeks of Beatty and Dan Weeks of Williamson River. The remains rest in the Klamath Funeral Home, 925 High Street. ++++++ Klamath News Klamath Falls, Or. September 18, 1936 The funeral service for the late Minnie Hough Paries, who passed away at Chiloquin, on Wednesday, September 16, will be held from the Methodist Church at Williamson River on Friday September 18, at 1 p.m., the Rev. Ross Ferguson and Rev. A.J. Neufeld officiating. The remains will arrive at the church at 12:30 p.m. Commitment service and vault entombment will take place in the Hill Cemetery. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #8 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:21:56 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F76zbfy1DmPKV00021fc7@hotmail.com> Subject: Interesting info from another list Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed -Message: #1 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:09:50 -0700 From: "Keith Winkelman" <ellobo@pacbell.net> To: MOBUCHAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <005601c45641$c240dbf0$0b586b45@IBM6NEBS8V3OV1> Subject: RE: [MOBUCHAN] A view on copyrighted material Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fair use applies to the use of material that is itself copyrightable. It turns out that much of the work in our field that carries a copyright mark is not actually covered by the copyright. This issue has been the subject of many long and interesting debates on various boards over the years, because of the field we're in. Copyrights can only apply to original work. It never applies to lists of facts. Simply put, if you walk a cemetery and transcribe and photograph every grave in the cemetery and then publish that material in a copyrighted book, the copyright will apply to the photographs (original work). It does not apply to the transcriptions of the graves. Those are not original works, simply the copying and dissemination of facts. If you write commentary or stories about your ancestors, it is original work and therefore copyrighted. If you do data analysis on the names, birth or death dates of the people in the cemetery, that's original and covered. The transcription itself (names, dates, and location of graves) is not, no matter how much work went into the compilation of those facts. It's simply not original work. Keith Winkelman, IBSSG -----Original Message----- From: Ken Reeder [mailto:kenr@arkansas.net] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:51 AM To: MOBUCHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBUCHAN] A view on copyrighted material Ref: "You can't put it on the net unless you go walk the cemetery yourself. The work is copyrighted." The Fair Use Doctrine allows the use of portions of most any copyrighted article. The writer of the above statement was correct that the copyrighted book could not be reproduced on the Internet without the authors written permission. But he/she has a very narrow view of the copyright law. The Fair Use Doctrine usually permits extraction of bits and pieces of a work, whether for critical review, or for educational purposes, and other uses. Under this Doctrine, the owner of this book could, if they chose to, do look-ups of information found in the book, and share it with the world. Personally, I would have a problem with someone doing this sharing of a copyrighted item, for profit. Were I the owner of the copyrighted item, I would welcome the publicity generated by the mention of the name of my book by those lookups, because sales would be generated. The following URL is a legal resource, one of many, that addresses this issue. http://www.bambooweb.com/articles/f/a/Fair_use.html ==== MOBUCHAN Mailing List ==== Buchanan County Genealogical Resources - Rootsweb http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/MO/Buchanan/ _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:35:47 EDT From: LAUBREY1@aol.com To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7b.2cbf8a26.2e099dc3@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Klamath,Or] RE: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hey Sandy; don't worry about it. You are not the first nor will you be the last to do that. Of course it is nice to know why it didn't make any sense to me. Thought I was out of a loop or something. Glad to know I didn't miss anything. Linda _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Hey Sandy; don't worry about it. You are not the first nor will you be the last to do that. Of course it is nice to know why it didn't make any sense to me. Thought I was out of a loop or something. Glad to know I didn't miss anything. Linda
To the List: I am so sorry one of my personal emails was sent to this list! It is totally an accident somehow...I posted some obits and sent some personal emails (all separately) and then got a notice from hotmail that delivery of some my emails had been delayed but that I didn't need to resend them ..that they would be delivered a little later...something must have been tied up somewhere in hotmail...then just now on the Klamath list one of my personal emails...subject: yuck ...had been sent to the wrong site...again I am sorry. Sandy ----Original Message Follows---- From: ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com To: ORKLAMAT-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ORKLAMAT-D Digest V04 #93 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:04:17 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain ORKLAMAT-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 93 Today's Topics: #1 Silvers/Hart ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #2 Yuck! ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #3 Mary Lalakes ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #4 Maggie John Ball ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #5 Eliza W. Long ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #6 Ned Schonchin ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #7 Minnie Hough Paries ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] #8 Interesting info from another list ["Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hot] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ORKLAMAT-D, send a message to ORKLAMAT-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:01:58 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F1156RjHpKnle000241f8@hotmail.com> Subject: Silvers/Hart Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Klamath Republican Sept. 14, 1899 SILVERS - HART NUPTIALS Last Saturday at high noon, Mr. Frank Silvers and Miss Sissy Hart were joined in holy wedlock at Klamath Agency by the United States Interior Department intact. Shortly before noon the fire bell of the big boarding school tolled the approaching hour when the wedding party, consisting of the many tillicums and intimate friends of the bride and groom, proceeded from the commissary building headed by a big fat policeman, to the chapel of the school building, elaborately decorated with pine browse, service berries and choke cherries which presented a very pleasing affect. The party entered the building and ascended the stairs with steps measured by a persistent little school boy who beat time on a tenor drum, and entered the chapel. The contracting parties took their seats just inside the door among the antediluvian aborigines. A moment later the organ pealed forth one of Lohengrin's grand wedding marches and the couple, accompanied by two maids of honor, marched up the aisle to the altar where the word was spoken which made two hearts beat as one. Mr. Silvers is an alien who hails from Portugal and is an industrious, hardworking, young man of no ordinary ability with a buck saw. His pretty and accomplished bride is a daughter of Jim Hart of Spring Creek fame, on the reservation, and her many kind acts during her stay in town have won her numerous compliments. (This marriage would have been September 9, 1899.) _________________________________________________________________ Get fast, reliable Internet access with MSN 9 Dial-up now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:42:15 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F113NsVEgQSPD0004ca71@hotmail.com> Subject: Yuck! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The girls kept telling me when they would get behind the couch that it smelled like pee and I just passed it off as being on the hand-me-down couch or to the fact that when I first moved in I had Buddy's pee pad right there as there was room because I didn't have the couch yet and he wouldn't go out to the kitchen to go no matter what I tried....well anyway, a couple days ago I heard the cat back there digging around in paper...I looked and some papers had been knocked over the back of the shelf behind the monitor on the shelf onto the floor in the corner and the cat has been peeing and I don't know for how long...maybe since I got him...but he uses the litter box too...so that is a lot of pee for one cat....OMG! the smelll is so bad and the papers are ruined so bad I don't know if I can stand to be close enough to copy them over..but Kember said she would read them to me and I can write....I think if I just let them sit for awhile and air out it might help......I bought some of that enzyme stuff that is supposed to disgest biological matter...yuck yuck....hope it works....more Peyton Place going on around here with Kember and Jason...get back to you later when they go somewhere and I can "talk"! >>>>LOL _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:51:17 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F61VzukbCECaD0001cbff@hotmail.com> Subject: Mary Lalakes Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The dates for the last two Mary Lalakes articles are confusing....trying to figure it out... The death article says she died December 3, no year, but the article say it was printed June 12, 1935... original date 1935; The People article date is June 12, 1935 also, I bet the people article was written in 1936 NOT 1935.... This helps: OREGON DEATH INDEX Name: Lalakes, Mary County: Klamath Death Date: 29 N 1935 Certificate: 302 Spouse: Solomon _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ______________________________ X-Message: #4 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:42:15 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F48BAe7ae3nJI0004a73a@hotmail.com> Subject: Maggie John Ball Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. February 13, 1974 (Maggie John Ball died December 1973) Mrs. Maggie John Ball, 91, former resident of Klamth County and Riverside, Calif., died recently at the Four Seasons Nursing Home in Santa Fe, N.M. Mrs. Ball is survived by her sons, Joseph S. Ball, Carson City, Nev., and Woodrow W. Ball, Santa Fe; also serveral grandchildren. Funeral services were held in Santa Fe with interment at Mt. Rubidoux Cemetery, Riverside, Ca. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #5 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:30:35 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F46RP3qePlFaO0002398e@hotmail.com> Subject: Eliza W. Long Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. August 1, 1944 Eliza W. Long, a resident of Chiloquin, Ore., passed away at the Klamath Agency on Sunday, July 30, 1944. The deceased was a native of the Klamath Reservation, and was aged 83 years, 26 days when called. She is survived by her husband Leonard Long; 1 daughter, Angeline Summers of Chiloquin, Ore., 3 grandchildren, Pvt. Calvin Summers, U.S. Army, Camp Roberts, Calif., Albert and Annabelle Summers, Chiloquin, Ore. The remains rest in Ward's Funeral Home where friends may call after 2 p.m. Tuesday. The funeral service will take place from the Methodist Church at Williamson River on Thursday, August 3, 1944 at 2 p.m., the Rev. Harley Zeller officiating. The commitment service and interment will follow in the family plot in the Wilson Cemetery. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #6 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:16:18 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F99gTN4tNNnDy0004ecbf@hotmail.com> Subject: Ned Schonchin Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Oregonian January 30, 1937 Klamath Falls, January 30, (Special) Ned Schonchin, resident of the Klamath Indian Reservation, visited Klamath Falls for the first time in 30 years the other day. Ned doesn't know how old he is. His elder sister, One-Eyed Dixie, carried messages in the Modoc Indian War. Ned says he was just a "little shaver" then. The old Indian said Klamath Falls looked considerably different than it did the last time he saw it, although he has lived only 40 miles away for half a century or so. _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #7 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:24:16 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F87ezrmjZ7zgT0000cd8e@hotmail.com> Subject: Minnie Hough Paries Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Klamath News Klamath Falls, Or. September 17, 1936 Minnie Hough Paries passed away at her residence in Chiloquin, Or., on Wednesday morning, September 16, following a lingering illness. The deceased was a native of Klamath Falls and was aged 53 when called. She leaves to mourn her passing her husband Joe of Chiloquin; three nieces, Inez Hunter of Klamath Falls, Leona Hoover and Maude Pompey of Chiloquin; two nephews, Eugene Weeks of Beatty and Dan Weeks of Williamson River. The remains rest in the Klamath Funeral Home, 925 High Street. ++++++ Klamath News Klamath Falls, Or. September 18, 1936 The funeral service for the late Minnie Hough Paries, who passed away at Chiloquin, on Wednesday, September 16, will be held from the Methodist Church at Williamson River on Friday September 18, at 1 p.m., the Rev. Ross Ferguson and Rev. A.J. Neufeld officiating. The remains will arrive at the church at 12:30 p.m. Commitment service and vault entombment will take place in the Hill Cemetery. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ______________________________ X-Message: #8 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:21:56 -0700 From: "Sandy Pratt" <ydnasyaknamffoc@hotmail.com> To: ORKLAMAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY16-F76zbfy1DmPKV00021fc7@hotmail.com> Subject: Interesting info from another list Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed -Message: #1 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:09:50 -0700 From: "Keith Winkelman" <ellobo@pacbell.net> To: MOBUCHAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <005601c45641$c240dbf0$0b586b45@IBM6NEBS8V3OV1> Subject: RE: [MOBUCHAN] A view on copyrighted material Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fair use applies to the use of material that is itself copyrightable. It turns out that much of the work in our field that carries a copyright mark is not actually covered by the copyright. This issue has been the subject of many long and interesting debates on various boards over the years, because of the field we're in. Copyrights can only apply to original work. It never applies to lists of facts. Simply put, if you walk a cemetery and transcribe and photograph every grave in the cemetery and then publish that material in a copyrighted book, the copyright will apply to the photographs (original work). It does not apply to the transcriptions of the graves. Those are not original works, simply the copying and dissemination of facts. If you write commentary or stories about your ancestors, it is original work and therefore copyrighted. If you do data analysis on the names, birth or death dates of the people in the cemetery, that's original and covered. The transcription itself (names, dates, and location of graves) is not, no matter how much work went into the compilation of those facts. It's simply not original work. Keith Winkelman, IBSSG -----Original Message----- From: Ken Reeder [mailto:kenr@arkansas.net] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:51 AM To: MOBUCHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBUCHAN] A view on copyrighted material Ref: "You can't put it on the net unless you go walk the cemetery yourself. The work is copyrighted." The Fair Use Doctrine allows the use of portions of most any copyrighted article. The writer of the above statement was correct that the copyrighted book could not be reproduced on the Internet without the authors written permission. But he/she has a very narrow view of the copyright law. The Fair Use Doctrine usually permits extraction of bits and pieces of a work, whether for critical review, or for educational purposes, and other uses. Under this Doctrine, the owner of this book could, if they chose to, do look-ups of information found in the book, and share it with the world. Personally, I would have a problem with someone doing this sharing of a copyrighted item, for profit. Were I the owner of the copyrighted item, I would welcome the publicity generated by the mention of the name of my book by those lookups, because sales would be generated. The following URL is a legal resource, one of many, that addresses this issue. http://www.bambooweb.com/articles/f/a/Fair_use.html ==== MOBUCHAN Mailing List ==== Buchanan County Genealogical Resources - Rootsweb http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/MO/Buchanan/ _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Oregonian January 30, 1937 Klamath Falls, January 30, (Special) Ned Schonchin, resident of the Klamath Indian Reservation, visited Klamath Falls for the first time in 30 years the other day. Ned doesn't know how old he is. His elder sister, One-Eyed Dixie, carried messages in the Modoc Indian War. Ned says he was just a "little shaver" then. The old Indian said Klamath Falls looked considerably different than it did the last time he saw it, although he has lived only 40 miles away for half a century or so. _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/
Herald & News Klamath Falls, Or. February 13, 1974 (Maggie John Ball died December 1973) Mrs. Maggie John Ball, 91, former resident of Klamth County and Riverside, Calif., died recently at the Four Seasons Nursing Home in Santa Fe, N.M. Mrs. Ball is survived by her sons, Joseph S. Ball, Carson City, Nev., and Woodrow W. Ball, Santa Fe; also serveral grandchildren. Funeral services were held in Santa Fe with interment at Mt. Rubidoux Cemetery, Riverside, Ca. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Klamath Republican Sept. 14, 1899 SILVERS - HART NUPTIALS Last Saturday at high noon, Mr. Frank Silvers and Miss Sissy Hart were joined in holy wedlock at Klamath Agency by the United States Interior Department intact. Shortly before noon the fire bell of the big boarding school tolled the approaching hour when the wedding party, consisting of the many tillicums and intimate friends of the bride and groom, proceeded from the commissary building headed by a big fat policeman, to the chapel of the school building, elaborately decorated with pine browse, service berries and choke cherries which presented a very pleasing affect. The party entered the building and ascended the stairs with steps measured by a persistent little school boy who beat time on a tenor drum, and entered the chapel. The contracting parties took their seats just inside the door among the antediluvian aborigines. A moment later the organ pealed forth one of Lohengrin's grand wedding marches and the couple, accompanied by two maids of honor, marched up the aisle to the altar where the word was spoken which made two hearts beat as one. Mr. Silvers is an alien who hails from Portugal and is an industrious, hardworking, young man of no ordinary ability with a buck saw. His pretty and accomplished bride is a daughter of Jim Hart of Spring Creek fame, on the reservation, and her many kind acts during her stay in town have won her numerous compliments. (This marriage would have been September 9, 1899.) _________________________________________________________________ Get fast, reliable Internet access with MSN 9 Dial-up now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
The dates for the last two Mary Lalakes articles are confusing....trying to figure it out... The death article says she died December 3, no year, but the article say it was printed June 12, 1935... original date 1935; The People article date is June 12, 1935 also, I bet the people article was written in 1936 NOT 1935.... This helps: OREGON DEATH INDEX Name: Lalakes, Mary County: Klamath Death Date: 29 N 1935 Certificate: 302 Spouse: Solomon _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married