Erik, your message has confused me a little. My comment "Her grandfather (on her mother's side) came from England with William Penn when he settled in America." Catherine's grandfather on her mother's side would mean the father of Anthony's wife. Are you saying that the parents of Sarah Hatfield were both German? Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: <EConard1@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Catherine Cunread/Cunraed > well, good readers, this is a good lesson for all in tracking down kin in > early PA when > the records are sparse. I am sending it to all ORIGINAL-13 as think there is > some value, educationally as well as genealogically. If this is either too > boring or deemed inappropriate, I will e-mail henceforth privately....erik p. > conard, author... > Now, the plot thickens...according to your new finds.. > This Catherine Cunread (don't worry 'bout spelling) > ---is a grand daughter of a member of Penn's sailing from England to PA at > any early date. Comment. Penn made several voyages, and perhaps they might be > checked out, I know this is a lateral move to seek candidates, and it is time > consuming, but that is why we call this stuff "research." LOL...attempt at > humor. > ---is a grand daughter of a member of Penn's sailing...on her MOTHERs > side....This > would mean not a KUNDERS, CUNREAD, or what have you, and more than likely a > wife of said Cunread, whose daughter married an Anthony Cunread or else the > wife > of Anthony...and not named Cunread...so, who was this Anthony's wife? There > are > not too many candidates for this, so let us begin to sort them out... > This Anthony COULD be a son of Madtis Conders, the second son of Thones > Kunders, for we do not know if he had issue; we do know he married late in life, the > woman was named Ann ____, and she died in 1777 in Loudoun Co, VA. We do not > know if this Anthony had been previously wed...or had issue...so we cannot > rule out > positively the Kunders descent although it is still dubious. > Grandmother on her mother's side does not give us any room for a > Cunread/Kunders > claim at all...so, back to the drawing board. write anytime. Erik P Conard > > ______________________________

Hi Phyllis and all, From: "jvines" <jvines@charter.net> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 6:39 AM > Erik, your message has confused me a little. My comment "Her grandfather > (on her mother's side) came from England with William Penn when he settled > in America." Catherine's grandfather on her mother's side would mean the > father of Anthony's wife. Are you saying that the parents of Sarah > Hatfield were both German? Phyllis And earlier, From: "jvines" <jvines@charter.net> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:20 PM snip > The Coon History gives a genealogical chart giving these vitals for Joseph and Catherine: > Joseph Coon b. 4 Apr 1720 near Philadelphia, ... > He married about 1748 Catherine Cunread born about 1732 near Philadephia, PA > d/o Anthony Cunread (Coonrod) b. 1710. It appears from the above two quotes that you are thinking that the Anthony Conrad who is said to be the father of Catherine was married to Sarah Hatfield. However, the Anthony Cunrad who married Sarah Hatfield (in May 1733) is not known to have had a daughter Catherine. The abstracts of his will (March 8, 1747/8) and of his half-brother, Joseph, (March 12, 1798) list his children but do not include a Catherine. A better lead for you would might be the Anthony who was the son of Madtis Conders and Barbara Tyson that Erik mentioned. However, Erik also said "we do not know if he had issue". Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com