Unfortunately, some of the old info is wrong. Thones Kunders' wife, for instance, was not a Streeper (Streypers), rather a Tyson...One of the nice things of this site is that we can at least correct some long-standing mistakes. Often those early historians did not understand the nomenclature nor German and, so erred in their assumptions. And new genies, finding old material, think they have stumbled on to some great stuff. A gross generalization it is, but beware...the older the material on the Original 13 folks...the more likely it is wrong! I know it goes against the grain, but my forty plus years at this has led me to this conclusion. Erik P Conard