Clearing out my inbox- I heard from another original 13 subscriber that Kusters relate to the op den Graeffs ( thus to Kunders indirectly & the original 13 directly). Where can I find the chart, outline, or other method of clear showing (clarity is more important that brevity, as long as the verbosity doesn't confuse). Michael Gallagher Descendant of Gertrude Doors, whose brother sailed on the Conrad ----- Original Message ----- From: <EConard1@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] New member who is 1/8 PA German/Deutsch/Dutch (all Palatina... > Again it pops up in spite of decades of denial. > Neither Isabella or Gertrud Conrad nor the consolidated Mayor of Philadelphia > Robert > Taylor Conrad were descendants of Thones Kunders. Prove me wrong. Prithee > do. > We continue to use old materials, long debunked, and some societies seem to > accept them sans proof or sources. > Let us take a look again...Erik P Conard, Denver > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Transcribe Graves, Lookup Data Online, Lookup Data in Publications > Visit Historical Societies, Go to Libraries and courthouses. Take Photos > documents, stones, artifacts, etc. We will love it! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Let me try and answer Michael's question about the Opden Graff and Kuesters. I have Abraham Isaac Op den Graff as the orginal immigrant. His daughter Gertien Op den Graff marris Richard Addams probably in Philidaphia area and have daughter Susannah. Susannah marries Conrad Custard (as I have the name spelled). Conrad's fatehr was Arnold Kuster, who along with his father Paul Kuesters and mother Gertrude Doors were orginal immigrants. I can furnish more generations both ways if desired. The Kuesters name is spelled various ways and does change over time depending upon which line is followed. The name does become Custer and does include George Armstrong Custer. Hope this helps. Lee McConkey