I think you have found a Perfect forum John. The good people of this list are like sponges <ME INCLUDED> We try to absorb every bit of information we can get our hands on.. Some of my lines list more pages of Sources than they do People LOL.. Thanks for the Offer, I am sure many of us would like to hear about it.. Welcome, Cali Cali's German PA, Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Falls/3610 I will be putting an updated page at rootsweb soon..There are some errors in the first page I need to remove, or fix.. Thanks,Cali {{{HUGS}}}} ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.