Please, thanks to B.K & Shirley Uptagrafft, feel free to download your copies of the GIF files that the sent, entitled ConcordShip.gif and ConcordShip2.gif, located at: http://www.nrao.edu/~vsummers/myfiles/ If you just cannot download them, contact me, and if you can accept attachments, I will see to it that you get a copy via email... Vince Summers -- Listowner: The Original 13 Settlers of Germantown, Pennsylvania Visit our homepage at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~original13/ Family Lines that came aboard the Concord in October of 1683.