First, let me say that I went on and did another fifty emails from Listbot. The are also available at: http://www.nrao.edu/~vsummers/myfiles/ or, if not accessible by you at that site, by contacting me and accepting an email attachment of the zip file at [email protected] ***** We do not have Roll Calls as such here. But I would like to afford the group an alternative that only taxes me, and will not clog the archives. Please send me a brief email, if you wish, stating your direct lines, where applicable such as Lucken, Kunders, Op den Graeff, Streypers,etc., and your descendant lines to two generations, surnames only, and I will make up a list, and submit it within the next couple of days to you as a composite list. This will show each of us what sort of raw material is available on this site at present. Then, if you see something in the list that interests you, perhaps that you did not suspect before, you can post about it. Send the emails, not to the list, but to: [email protected] Vince Summers