Here is a very difficult task that I think would really be neat, nonetheless. If those of each surname among the 13 were to develop little migratory charts of how their branch of the 13 surname, and then submit them, with dates, to some designated individual who would then represent that total surname. Then taking those and submitting them to someone who could assemble a grand chart, that could be submitted to Liese (after all was said and done), to be put on her homepage of the 13! All kinds of neat things could come from that. Unrealistic as it might be, I envision a clickable image map made from that chart, with images and biographies and geographical/city links. Vince