Hi, Lee... I am assuming you have not heard from others, though common sense would tell me that you had... Yes, the Original 13 have been posted a number of times, and they are GERMANTOWN. In fact, they connect to Kite which connects, as you know, to Widener! In my earlier days, you may remember how you were able to help me so much to get started. This email list is my email list! It used to be on Listbot, but is now on Rootsweb. Here are the names, then, recognizing, please, that there are various spellings of the same name! Dirk Op Den Graeff --> Updegrove, Uptegraff, etc.,etc. Herman Op Den Graeff Abraham Op Den Graeff Tuenes Kunders --> Thones Kunders and many spellings otherwise Lenert Arens --> Leonard Reinert Tisen --> Tyson, etc. Wilhelm Strepers --> Streepers, Streypers Jan Lensen Peter Keurlis --> Kerlin, etc. Jan Siemens --> Siemons, etc. Johann Bleikers --> Blijckers, Blakers, etc. Abraham Tuenes --> Tunes, Tunis, Tennis, Dennis, etc. Jan Lueken --> Luckens, Lucken, Luken, Lyken, etc. and their families Vince